Children and Religion

[QUOTE="SaudiFury"]That's what i intend to do with my children. rasie them as Muslims as best as i canRomanPolanski_

Imo its not bad for children to be introduced to their parents religion.

Parents just have to not be pushy when the kid grows up IF he/she has doubts or wants to explore new religions or the lack of it.

[QUOTE="RomanPolanski_"][QUOTE="Nagru"]As a religious person you believe your religion is the truth, so why wouldn't you teach your kids about it?Nagru

Unless you try to stifle their questions and keep them from looking at any other beliefs, I just can't see it as brainwashing.

I don't see the problem. An atheist parent would more than likely denounce religion when their children brings it up and a religious parent would normally try to introduce them from a young age. Either way both parents are imposing their beliefs on their children.

Espada12

Definitely agree with this, I don't think a parent can realistically avoid influencing their children's beliefs. Singling out religion is silly.

[QUOTE="Nagru"]As a religious person you believe your religion is the truth, so why wouldn't you teach your kids about it?RomanPolanski_

Unless you try to stifle their questions and keep them from looking at any other beliefs, I just can't see it as brainwashing.

You're using fear and guilt, fear of eternal punishment and guilt of being 'sinners', to control them. Not sure how that can be anything but brainwashing.RomanPolanski_

If a parent is browbeating their kid with fear of hellfire, that's forcing a kid into your religion. I can only speak from experience though, and that never happened to me, nor to any other Christian kids I hang out with.

There's no emphasis on that where I live, and my parents have been encouraging my questioning of Christianity.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

No...Children should be encouraged to take part in Religion from any age.

CosmicZombie

agree

[QUOTE="UgliestWeen"][QUOTE="Baconbits2004"]

Parents will always try to do what they feel is best for their kids... which in someway will involve expressing their own opinions about something. If they believe in religion, they will surely tell their kids about it.

Should they? yes. Because it's their beliefs. If you don't try and nudge your kids in what you believe is the right direction, you aren't being a parent at all.

Baconbits2004

[QUOTE="RomanPolanski_"]You're using fear and guilt, fear of eternal punishment and guilt of being 'sinners', to control them. Not sure how that can be anything but brainwashing.Nagru

If a parent is browbeating their kid with fear of hellfire, that's forcing a kid into your religion. I can only speak from experience though, and that never happened to me, nor to any other Christian kids I hang out with.

There's no emphasis on that where I live, and my parents have been encouraging my questioning of Christianity.

You can bring it up and see if he likes the experience, but if after about a year maybe idk the exact amount of time if the child doesn't like going to church and doesn't believe in it then just stop trying to push it. My friends perents were very "you have to go to chruch every sunday" He is an atheist now.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

No...Children should be encouraged to take part in Religion from any age.

CosmicZombie

agree

[QUOTE="CosmicZombie"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

No...Children should be encouraged to take part in Religion from any age.

Snipes_2

agree

You got some sharp eyes.

Also you are wrong.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="CosmicZombie"]

agree

CosmicZombie

You got some sharp eyes.

Also you are wrong.

If so, I wouldn't generalize all religions like that.

[QUOTE="CosmicZombie"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] That's a Halloween Costume, there haven't been any cases of children becoming suicide bombers that I've heard of.

Snipes_2

You got some sharp eyes.

Also you are wrong.

If so, I wouldn't generalize all religions like that.

Well duh. but the point is still the same.

Raised a Catholic throughout school. I was the "special kid" and always pointed things that didn't make any sense in the bible. How he could walk on water, etc. I am 17 today but I still consider myself a Catholic. The bible holds a good set of morals that every kid should learn, wether they believe in God or not. That's just how I think about it.

It doesn't matter to most people where I live. Most of us don't take religion seriously or care much about it so I doubt anyone would care or bother choosing if given the choice.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="CosmicZombie"]

You got some sharp eyes.

Also you are wrong.

If so, I wouldn't generalize all religions like that.

Well duh. but the point is still the same.

Parenting is all about parents teaching their kids how to be good adults. And everyone thinks their the best so the try to imprint their views into their kids. It makes perfect sense for kids to pick up religon from the parents.

Raised a Catholic throughout school. I was the "special kid" and always pointed things that didn't make any sense in the bible. How he could walk on water, etc. I am 17 today but I still consider myself a Catholic. The bible holds a good set of morals that every kid should learn, wether they believe in God or not. That's just how I think about it.

ObeseBanana

[QUOTE="CosmicZombie"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] This was done for religious Reasons?

If so, I wouldn't generalize all religions like that.

OfficerTJHooka

Well duh. but the point is still the same.

...you dont?

I liked the way my parents brought me up: I grew up with the church and when I was old enough to be confrimed, it was my choice to do so or not.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]

[QUOTE="CosmicZombie"]

You got some sharp eyes.

Also you are wrong.

CosmicZombie

If so, I wouldn't generalize all religions like that.

Well duh. but the point is still the same.

Raised a Catholic throughout school. I was the "special kid" and always pointed things that didn't make any sense in the bible. How he could walk on water, etc. I am 17 today but I still consider myself a Catholic. The bible holds a good set of morals that every kid should learn, wether they believe in God or not. That's just how I think about it.

[QUOTE="CosmicZombie"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] This was done for religious Reasons?

If so, I wouldn't generalize all religions like that.

Snipes_2

Well duh. but the point is still the same.

They can pus the religion on a kid as much as they want. Part of the reason for having children is so you can raise them to be a perfect believer in your values. If they decline them then thats fine, the kid saw through the teachings of his parents and does agree.

Raised a Catholic throughout school. I was the "special kid" and always pointed things that didn't make any sense in the bible. How he could walk on water, etc. I am 17 today but I still consider myself a Catholic. The bible holds a good set of morals that every kid should learn, wether they believe in God or not. That's just how I think about it.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="CosmicZombie"]

Well duh. but the point is still the same.

UgliestWeen

[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="UgliestWeen"] The same lessons can be learned without the existence of religion. Also, the bible holds a lot of bad morals which Society rejects today.UgliestWeen

[QUOTE="Baconbits2004"]

Parents will always try to do what they feel is best for their kids... which in someway will involve expressing their own opinions about something. If they believe in religion, they will surely tell their kids about it.

Should they? yes. Because it's their beliefs. If you don't try and nudge your kids in what you believe is the right direction, you aren't being a parent at all.

JohnF111

[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="UgliestWeen"] The same lessons can be learned without the existence of religion. Also, the bible holds a lot of bad morals which Society rejects today.UgliestWeen

[QUOTE="CosmicZombie"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] This was done for religious Reasons?

If so, I wouldn't generalize all religions like that.

Snipes_2

Well duh. but the point is still the same.

Why not tach the kids good morals and leave it at that?

Oh yeah because then they go to hell. Thats the problem.

[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="Baconbits2004"]

Parents will always try to do what they feel is best for their kids... which in someway will involve expressing their own opinions about something. If they believe in religion, they will surely tell their kids about it.

Should they? yes. Because it's their beliefs. If you don't try and nudge your kids in what you believe is the right direction, you aren't being a parent at all.

ObeseBanana

Hey we can say Christianity has come full circle at first they were burned, crucified and fed to lions for believing in Christianity and afterwards they were burned/murdered for not believing in it.

[QUOTE="JohnF111"][QUOTE="Baconbits2004"]

Parents will always try to do what they feel is best for their kids... which in someway will involve expressing their own opinions about something. If they believe in religion, they will surely tell their kids about it.

Should they? yes. Because it's their beliefs. If you don't try and nudge your kids in what you believe is the right direction, you aren't being a parent at all.

ObeseBanana

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="CosmicZombie"]

Well duh. but the point is still the same.

CosmicZombie

Why not tach the kids good morals and leave it at that?

Oh yeah because then they go to hell. Thats the problem.

[QUOTE="UgliestWeen"][QUOTE="gaming25"] "bad morals" like what?gaming25

[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="UgliestWeen"] Have you even read the Bible?UgliestWeen

[QUOTE="ObeseBanana"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"] Christianity was built on nudging people into the beliefs of Christians, although where you say "nudging" the correct term would be that people were slaughtered until the remainers were convinced of the beliefs.Fizzman

Hey we can say Christianity has come full circle at first they were burned, crucified and fed to lions for believing in Christianity and afterwards they were burned/murdered for not believing in it.

[QUOTE="ObeseBanana"]

[QUOTE="JohnF111"] Christianity was built on nudging people into the beliefs of Christians, although where you say "nudging" the correct term would be that people were slaughtered until the remainers were convinced of the beliefs.Fizzman

Hey we can say Christianity has come full circle at first they were burned, crucified and fed to lions for believing in Christianity and afterwards they were burned/murdered for not believing in it.

The second part that you are referring to came after Biblical times, so lets keep in mind that it is not a reflection on what the Bible teaches us.

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="ObeseBanana"]

You're hurting my feelings :(

ObeseBanana

Hey we can say Christianity has come full circle at first they were burned, crucified and fed to lions for believing in Christianity and afterwards they were burned/murdered for not believing in it.

What? All that modern age civilizing and priests still can't keep their hands off of little boys. All Religions are a joke and I'm not gonna be a hypocrite and say one is better then the other.

Every single human born is atheist,nobody is born certain religion

[QUOTE="CosmicZombie"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Not really, you have to take into account the Religion as a whole and its influences on people. I don't want to point out one specific religion that influences violence but they all don't. The ones that don't should be encouraged and taught to children if you're part of that religion. Snipes_2

Why not tach the kids good morals and leave it at that?

Oh yeah because then they go to hell. Thats the problem.

You have to be kidding, hell even the infamous Olaf (pope) slaughtered all those who refused to believe and constructed churches in every town. Maybe you cant truly convince them, but when they behave in the way the higher ups want, i dont really find the difference.

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="CosmicZombie"] Not really, you have to take into account the Religion as a whole and its influences on people. I don't want to point out one specific religion that influences violence but they all don't. The ones that don't should be encouraged and taught to children if you're part of that religion. CosmicZombie

Why not tach the kids good morals and leave it at that?

Oh yeah because then they go to hell. Thats the problem.

[QUOTE="ObeseBanana"]

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

Hey we can say Christianity has come full circle at first they were burned, crucified and fed to lions for believing in Christianity and afterwards they were burned/murdered for not believing in it.

Fizzman

What? All that modern age civilizing and priests still can't keep their hands off of little boys. All Religions are a joke and I'm not gonna be a hypocrite and say one is better then the other.

Children should be raised without religion, they will either find it later or not find it. I would never force my kids to believe in my religion, though it would make me happy if thye choose it, it is up to them to make up their own minds. I would rather they learn about science or math early then the Gods/God/No God.