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#1 osirisx3
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I came across a cupple of pictures that blew me away, so i wanted to show you guys

 

1996

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and today

 

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#2 00-Riddick-00
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Clearly photoshopped.
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#3 HoolaHoopMan
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Yea, how's that air pollution going for them as well?
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#4 narlymech
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Cool looking city. What city is it?

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#5 chrisrooR
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Cool looking city. What city is it?

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Shanghai I believe.
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#6 Fightingfan
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I thought communism wasn't about the money.
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#7 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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Funny, I just read that their growth is stagnating and the jobs picture looks bleak.

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#8 Gargus
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I thought communism wasn't about the money. Fightingfan

What 90% of people (especially americans) know about communism is pretty much all wrong.

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#9 Fightingfan
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]I thought communism wasn't about the money. Gargus

What 90% of people (especially americans) know about communism is pretty much all wrong.

What I know and what china practices are two different things. I don't see any distribution of wealth going on in China.
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#10 Barbariser
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Not really, Japan and South Korea did this decades before China using a similar source of economic growth, as well as Taiwan, many European countries like France, Germany, Italy, .etc. The only difference is sheer scale - China's population is larger than all of these other countries combined.

 

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#11 mattbbpl
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Funny, I just read that their growth is stagnating and the jobs picture looks bleak.

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It is. Granted, slowing growth for China is 7% growth vs. the projected 7.5% growth (and vs. the 10% of a few years ago).
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#12 EagleEyedOne
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China will crash within the next decade.
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#13 Jebus213
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[QUOTE="Fightingfan"]I thought communism wasn't about the money. Gargus

 

What 90% of people (especially americans) know about communism is pretty much all wrong.

 

You mean fixed economies and very authoritarian governments?

 

Did I get anything wrong?

 

I am aware that China has a market economy.

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#14 lamprey263
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and the people, they multiply when you get them wet, just don't feed them after midnight
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#15 drekula2
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without labor laws and environmental protection, you can go far.

 

still, in 20 years, the chinese economy will crash.

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#16 buccomatic
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I came across a cupple of pictures that blew me away, so i wanted to show you guys

 

1996

SA68b.gif

 

and today

 

9268896557_a787477840_b.jpg

osirisx3
you forgot to mention that both pictures were shot during the daytime and the pic of china today is one smothered with so much pollution that it blocks out the sun.
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#17 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="osirisx3"]

I came across a cupple of pictures that blew me away, so i wanted to show you guys

 

1996

SA68b.gif

 

and today

 

9268896557_a787477840_b.jpg

buccomatic

you forgot to mention that both pictures were shot during the daytime and the pic of china today is one smothered with so much pollution that it blocks out the sun.

How do you know they were both shot during the daytime?

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#18 Alpha_S_
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I thought communism wasn't about the money. Fightingfan

You're about 30 years late on that one, while China is still ruled by the CPC its been moving away from ideological communism since Deng Xiaoping.  Now they're more authoritarian technocrats who put growth oriented policies as their top priority.  

Anwyay, I find Shanghai's skyline amazingly awesome, and that's just one of many rapidly growing cities over there. 

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#20 Bikouchu35
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I came across a cupple of pictures that blew me away, so i wanted to show you guys

 

1996

SA68b.gif

 

and today

 

9268896557_a787477840_b.jpg

osirisx3

Ohhh looks like a perfect map for battlefield games, they should put it in there.

Also the picture is taken closer, 1st shot is at daytime, 2nd shot is also daytime with heavy pollution. Not a fair comparison.

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#22 Hiddai
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It's US greatest danger IMO
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#23 KittenNipples
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Because they don't give a crap about their natural resources. They will sell them off as cheap imported goods and the result is this.
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#24 deeliman
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It's US greatest danger IMOHiddai
Why, might I ask?
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#25 Hiddai
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[QUOTE="Hiddai"]It's US greatest danger IMOdeeliman
Why, might I ask?

I don't know man. all this stability (as a western country citizen) when US is the most powerful contry in the world and when China will be, this stability will change and might cause a new cold war (a war which happenes all the time but i mean the scary version of this war)
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#27 Hiddai
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[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="Hiddai"]It's US greatest danger IMOSNIPER4321
Why, might I ask?

because it will become superpower very soon.

Yes
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#28 deeliman
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[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="Hiddai"]It's US greatest danger IMOHiddai
Why, might I ask?

I don't know man. all this stability (as a western country citizen) when US is the most powerful contry in the world and when China will be, this stability will change and might cause a new cold war (a war which happenes all the time but i mean the scary version of this war)

It won't happen, the us is one of the biggest trading partners of china, it would be economical suicide to start a war, plus with the eu probably backing you and also stopping to trade with china they will collapse, and they know that.
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#30 deeliman
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[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="Hiddai"]It's US greatest danger IMOSNIPER4321
Why, might I ask?

because it will become superpower very soon.

That doesn't mean it's dangerous for the us.
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#31 deeliman
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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="Hiddai"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] because it will become superpower very soon.

Yes

yeah once china will become Superpower. lot of things will be getting better. eitherway I love China and i will suport them for becoming superpower.

China is already a superpower dude.
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[QUOTE="Hiddai"]It's US greatest danger IMOdeeliman
Why, might I ask?

Here is some info you may or may not find interesting China consumes 53% of the world's cement... and 48% of the world's iron ore... and 47% of the world's coal... and the majority of just about every major commodity China's economy grew 7 times as fast as America's over the past decade (316% growth vs. 43%) China has more pigs than the next 43 pork producing countries combined Chinese consume 50,000 cigarettes every second America's fastest "high speed" train goes less than half as fast as the new train between Shanghai and Beijing (150 mph vs 302 mph) China has 64 million vacant homes, including entire cities that are empty By 2025, China will build enough skyscrapers to fill TEN New York-sized cities By 2030, China will add more new city-dwellers than the entire U.S. population China executes three times as many people as the rest of the world COMBINED... and uses mobile execution vans for efficiency.
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#34 deeliman
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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] yeah once china will become Superpower. lot of things will be getting better. eitherway I love China and i will suport them for becoming superpower.

China is already a superpower dude.

not officially declared

Lol, who officially declares that? That's just stupid.
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#35 deeliman
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[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="Hiddai"]It's US greatest danger IMOEmpCom
Why, might I ask?

Here is some info you may or may not find interesting China consumes 53% of the world's cement... and 48% of the world's iron ore... and 47% of the world's coal... and the majority of just about every major commodity China's economy grew 7 times as fast as America's over the past decade (316% growth vs. 43%) China has more pigs than the next 43 pork producing countries combined Chinese consume 50,000 cigarettes every second America's fastest "high speed" train goes less than half as fast as the new train between Shanghai and Beijing (150 mph vs 302 mph) China has 64 million vacant homes, including entire cities that are empty By 2025, China will build enough skyscrapers to fill TEN New York-sized cities By 2030, China will add more new city-dwellers than the entire U.S. population China executes three times as many people as the rest of the world COMBINED... and uses mobile execution vans for efficiency.

Again, how is this dangerous to the US?
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#36 EmpCom
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[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="deeliman"] Why, might I ask?

Here is some info you may or may not find interesting China consumes 53% of the world's cement... and 48% of the world's iron ore... and 47% of the world's coal... and the majority of just about every major commodity China's economy grew 7 times as fast as America's over the past decade (316% growth vs. 43%) China has more pigs than the next 43 pork producing countries combined Chinese consume 50,000 cigarettes every second America's fastest "high speed" train goes less than half as fast as the new train between Shanghai and Beijing (150 mph vs 302 mph) China has 64 million vacant homes, including entire cities that are empty By 2025, China will build enough skyscrapers to fill TEN New York-sized cities By 2030, China will add more new city-dwellers than the entire U.S. population China executes three times as many people as the rest of the world COMBINED... and uses mobile execution vans for efficiency.

Again, how is this dangerous to the US?

Never said it was dangerous
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#37 deactivated-598fc45371265
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I used to live in Shanghai for a few years when i was a kid. It's surreal going back there now.

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#38 deeliman
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[QUOTE="EmpCom"][QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="EmpCom"] Here is some info you may or may not find interesting China consumes 53% of the world's cement... and 48% of the world's iron ore... and 47% of the world's coal... and the majority of just about every major commodity China's economy grew 7 times as fast as America's over the past decade (316% growth vs. 43%) China has more pigs than the next 43 pork producing countries combined Chinese consume 50,000 cigarettes every second America's fastest "high speed" train goes less than half as fast as the new train between Shanghai and Beijing (150 mph vs 302 mph) China has 64 million vacant homes, including entire cities that are empty By 2025, China will build enough skyscrapers to fill TEN New York-sized cities By 2030, China will add more new city-dwellers than the entire U.S. population China executes three times as many people as the rest of the world COMBINED... and uses mobile execution vans for efficiency.

Again, how is this dangerous to the US?

Never said it was dangerous

You were responding to me responding to a guy that said that china is dangerous to the us, so i assumed you thought this was dangerous. my bad. Those figures are interesting, but not suprising. china has like 1.3 billion people and an economy with a massive growth rate.
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[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="Hiddai"][QUOTE="deeliman"] Why, might I ask?

I don't know man. all this stability (as a western country citizen) when US is the most powerful contry in the world and when China will be, this stability will change and might cause a new cold war (a war which happenes all the time but i mean the scary version of this war)

It won't happen, the us is one of the biggest trading partners of china, it would be economical suicide to start a war, plus with the eu probably backing you and also stopping to trade with china they will collapse, and they know that.

I don't mean war i mean cold-war like with the USSR
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#40 deeliman
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[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="Hiddai"]I don't know man. all this stability (as a western country citizen) when US is the most powerful contry in the world and when China will be, this stability will change and might cause a new cold war (a war which happenes all the time but i mean the scary version of this war)Hiddai
It won't happen, the us is one of the biggest trading partners of china, it would be economical suicide to start a war, plus with the eu probably backing you and also stopping to trade with china they will collapse, and they know that.

I don't mean war i mean cold-war like with the USSR

No, that won't happen either. That's not of benefit for either country.
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#41 Hiddai
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[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="Hiddai"][QUOTE="deeliman"] It won't happen, the us is one of the biggest trading partners of china, it would be economical suicide to start a war, plus with the eu probably backing you and also stopping to trade with china they will collapse, and they know that.

I don't mean war i mean cold-war like with the USSR

No, that won't happen either. That's not of benefit for either country.

But When US economy will fall somewhen it WILL be...
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#42 KingKinect
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China is now computer generated?

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#43 deeliman
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[QUOTE="Hiddai"][QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="Hiddai"] I don't mean war i mean cold-war like with the USSR

No, that won't happen either. That's not of benefit for either country.

But When US economy will fall somewhen it WILL be...

That's only speculation.
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#44 Hiddai
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[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="Hiddai"][QUOTE="deeliman"] No, that won't happen either. That's not of benefit for either country.

But When US economy will fall somewhen it WILL be...

That's only speculation.

Speculation based on the history...yeah...
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at least you can chew the air
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#46 deeliman
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[QUOTE="Hiddai"][QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="Hiddai"] But When US economy will fall somewhen it WILL be...

That's only speculation.

Speculation based on the history...yeah...

There were 2 economic crashes in the history of teh us and they weren't attacked in either of them...
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#47 Hiddai
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[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="Hiddai"][QUOTE="deeliman"] That's only speculation.

Speculation based on the history...yeah...

There were 2 economic crashes in the history of teh us and they weren't attacked in either of them...

Who said anything about attack?! i said cold-war...jesus...
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#48 surrealnumber5
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all nations have their respective problems, china included. the degrees vary for sure.
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#49 JustBeYourself
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[QUOTE="deeliman"] China is already a superpower dude.

No, it absolutely is not. 4 times the population of the US with half the total GDP. This does not make it a superpower. It's military is still nowhere near the USA's, it has serious pollution and social problems as well as education problems, corruption problems and brain drain problems. Unfortunately I think China's economy is going to stagnate just like Japan's did in the 90s but at a much lower GDP per capita.
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#50 deeliman
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[QUOTE="deeliman"][QUOTE="Hiddai"]Speculation based on the history...yeah...Hiddai
There were 2 economic crashes in the history of teh us and they weren't attacked in either of them...

Who said anything about attack?! i said cold-war...jesus...

they also didn't have cold wars in them... dumbass.