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[QUOTE="SaintWalrus"] You just described Quantum Mechanicstoast_burner

Are you trolling or are you just really ignorant?

Quantum science is researched by some of the worlds smartest minds

"Why don't atheists just believe in God, but not actively participate in Christian activities such as going to church?"

That just assumes that the Christian God is the correct one, what if all of them are worshiping the wrong god, or the wrong version of that god? What if Zeus is the 'correct' god? Then Christians are going to Hades or something, right? I don't know the punishment for not believing in Amun-Ra or other gods is, but most religions are 'our religion is right, and no other is', so... just count the number of religions that exist, and have existed, then figure your odds from there.

Atheists are either right or wrong; religious people are either right, wrong religion, or just plain wrong.

[QUOTE="SaintWalrus"] You just described Quantum Mechanicstoast_burner

Are you trolling or are you just really ignorant?

Quantum science is researched by some of the worlds smartest minds

I'm going to prescribe you some reading Walrus.

on the duties of the clergy, please pay extra attention to the first two chapters.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="SaintWalrus"] how so? There are only Two possible realities in the realm of existence The existence of a deity or the non-existence of a deity Fiction or Non-fiction There is no third sphere.SaintWalrus

There is no third box, but there is no grounding evidence, like a million coin tosses, that suggest that they are equally likely, and likewise the claim that there is a 50-50 chance is the stupidest thing I've read today.

lol

And Christianity is practiced by some of the dumbest.MacBoomStick

If the internet has taught us anything there are extremely dumb Christians (jack Chick) and extremely dumb atheists (Head explodes*).

I'm going to prescribe you some reading Walrus.

on the duties of the clergy, please pay extra attention to the first two chapters.

Philokalia

You catholic?

i wish more people would troll trolls instead of being lame and pointing it outZumaJones07

Atheism doesn't deny the existence of God, that is impossible. We just say there isn't any proof. Such a large claim should have some proof. lol@50/50cheese_game619

Atheism is the abesence of a claim in terms of religion. We don't need proof because it's impossible to prove a negative. Since they are trying to prove god's existence, they have all the responsibility in proving it's existence, until they can prove it's existence; god by default doesn't exist.

lol stop drop and roll does not work in hell. Gold. And lol fearmongering. What if believing to get into heaven gets you a one way ticket to hell, and only true absolute believers actually get in? Cause obviously god can tell the difference, right?XilePrincess

[QUOTE="Philokalia"]

I'm going to prescribe you some reading Walrus.

on the duties of the clergy, please pay extra attention to the first two chapters.

GameGuy642003

You catholic?

Orthodox love St Ambrose as well ya know ;)

"When it comes to God, outside of the Christian perspective, there is a 50-50 chance of him existing. He either does or doesn't. Christians, by believing in God, are covered for the afterlife, if it so happens to exist. But Atheists, they drive without insurance, if they're right, they go no where, if they're wrong, well, just remember that Stop drop and Roll does not work in Hell."

He brings up a very valid point.

Why don't atheists just believe in God, but not actively participate in Christian activities such as going to church?

Just believing gets you a ticket into heaven.

So why not?

SaintWalrus

OP can't into probability

You'd think god would be smart enough to know if someone is just pretending to believe in him so they could trick there way into heaven.

But then again this is the Christian god we're talking about.

toast_burner

I finally understand

CONFIRMED: OP IS A TROLL

coolbeans90

I have no reason to believe in god because the idea is just silly to me.

/thread

Because faith isn't a choice, just like the thoughts that stream into your head aren't. Its not obvious, but think about it, your conscious is pulling stuff forward for itself to choose from, and it seems to us it is pulling it out of thin air. The thoughts that come to us like the snap of a finger, whenever we recall that weird fact or pointless memory, its not choice. Neither is faith. Faith is an amazing thing, because you can't choose it. Some of us look at the sky and know there is something out there. Some of us look up and accept there is only us, the universe, and what we make of it. Others aren't sure. So what choice do you have, do you fake it for God? Something tells me he'd know.

You can't choose to have faith.

"When it comes to God, outside of the Christian perspective, there is a 50-50 chance of him existing. He either does or doesn't. Christians, by believing in God, are covered for the afterlife, if it so happens to exist. But Atheists, they drive without insurance, if they're right, they go no where, if they're wrong, well, just remember that Stop drop and Roll does not work in Hell."

He brings up a very valid point.

Why don't atheists just believe in God, but not actively participate in Christian activities such as going to church?

Just believing gets you a ticket into heaven.

So why not?

SaintWalrus

whats the point of this? so atheists should live life pretending to have faith in god yet they wont truly have faith?and according to to the bible you got to have faith to enter the kingdom of god...as i said so whats the point of pretending if you have no faith?

"When it comes to God, outside of the Christian perspective, there is a 50-50 chance of him existing. He either does or doesn't. Christians, by believing in God, are covered for the afterlife, if it so happens to exist. But Atheists, they drive without insurance, if they're right, they go no where, if they're wrong, well, just remember that Stop drop and Roll does not work in Hell."

He brings up a very valid point.

Why don't atheists just believe in God, but not actively participate in Christian activities such as going to church?

Just believing gets you a ticket into heaven.

So why not?

SaintWalrus

Although TC is a known troll the sad thing is some people do think this way about Christianity and religion in general. Some people really do believe that going to church and saying you believe in something null and voids your hell card. The fact that people will place faith in a religion like they would place a bet in roulette is just distressing and a poor example of someone with actual faith in what they believe.

"When it comes to God, outside of the Christian perspective, there is a 50-50 chance of him existing. He either does or doesn't. Christians, by believing in God, are covered for the afterlife, if it so happens to exist. But Atheists, they drive without insurance, if they're right, they go no where, if they're wrong, well, just remember that Stop drop and Roll does not work in Hell."

He brings up a very valid point.

Why don't atheists just believe in God, but not actively participate in Christian activities such as going to church?

Just believing gets you a ticket into heaven.

So why not?

SaintWalrus

[QUOTE="SaintWalrus"]

"When it comes to God, outside of the Christian perspective, there is a 50-50 chance of him existing. He either does or doesn't. Christians, by believing in God, are covered for the afterlife, if it so happens to exist. But Atheists, they drive without insurance, if they're right, they go no where, if they're wrong, well, just remember that Stop drop and Roll does not work in Hell."

He brings up a very valid point.

Why don't atheists just believe in God, but not actively participate in Christian activities such as going to church?

Just believing gets you a ticket into heaven.

So why not?

shadowchronicle

You're worse than a Mets fan, pick a side!

Because they don't believe in Hell, so it's not an issue.

Pffrbt

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It's amazing that people still use Pascals Wager. Maybe amazing isn't the word I'm looking for...retarded? HoolaHoopMan

This help?

Pascal's Wager? Seriously?

You're worse than a Mets fan, pick a side!RandomWinner

[QUOTE="RandomWinner"]You're worse than a Mets fan, pick a side!shadowchronicle

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"When it comes to God, outside of the Christian perspective, there is a 50-50 chance of him existing.

SaintWalrus

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"50-50 chance of him existing" lol'd-Sun_Tzu-

I know right? Some people.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]"50-50 chance of him existing" lol'dPhilokalia

I know right? Some people.

There is also a 50/50 chance of a Ferrari being in my driveway right now...It's either there or it isn't.

He can't be serious can he?

So what you're saying is. As long as I believe in God, I can kill all the people I want without any consequences in the afterlife!

So what you're saying is. As long as I believe in God, I can kill all the people I want without any consequences in the afterlife!

Iceozo

I believe that, once saved always saved

You can kill a whole preschool of kids, but you can never drop from faith.

You would be put to death by State Law, But you'd never drop from faith from God.

It may be wrong

It may be stupid

It may be disgusting beyond all comprehensible levels

In your eyes

But that's what Makes God God

That's what makes him the immeasurable force of power he is.

The unlimited amount of forgiveness he cascades upon you.

You only see it as wrong because the human mind cannot comprehend the immenseness of this trait of God.

Just like how humans cannot grasp the sheer magnitutde of the universe, or the non-existance of time before it was created by God.

The human mind simply cannot swallow this pill.

It takes YEARS of practice to even accept this sheer leap of faith.

I remember when trolls were witty or funny

I remember when trolls were witty or funny

wis3boi

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="SaintWalrus"]

"When it comes to God, outside of the Christian perspective, there is a 50-50 chance of him existing.

SaintWalrus

This is perhaps the stupidest thing that I have read all day. The probability is utterly unassessable.

[QUOTE="Iceozo"]

So what you're saying is. As long as I believe in God, I can kill all the people I want without any consequences in the afterlife!

SaintWalrus

I believe that, once saved always saved

You can kill a whole preschool of kids, but you can never drop from faith.

You would be put to death by State Law, But you'd never drop from faith from God.

That's why I said "consequences in the afterlife," plus I think a painless execution by the state would be nice. It's like I'm avoiding all the hardships of life now and getting eternal bliss now.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

I remember when trolls were witty or funny

SaintWalrus