CISPA has passed, gives government unlimited power to regulate the internet

Sounds bad, I hope it doesn't include Canada government!

This bill is in no way SOPA 2.0. I am not really sure where you get that idea (it has nothing to do with piracy)

So what's the problem? Can somebody explain it to me?

This bill is in no way SOPA 2.0. I am not really sure where you get that idea (it has nothing to do with piracy)

Jacobistheman

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This bill is in no way SOPA 2.0. I am not really sure where you get that idea (it has nothing to do with piracy)

nintendoboy16

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="Jacobistheman"]

This bill is in no way SOPA 2.0. I am not really sure where you get that idea (it has nothing to do with piracy)

TopTierHustler

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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] But both bills hurt our privacy.YoshiYogurt

I know what youre sayin man. And I know its lame and shouldnt be passed. I guess where Im at is that I just already figured that the gov. is corupt and spies on us anyway/ ive got nothing to hide so at this point whats the dif. Im not saying im ok with it, im not saying its ok, im just saying it doesnt seem like anything new nor do i really think that the average joe REALLY has anything to worry about. However I will admit that I know little about this stuff as well. Is there anything we can do to make sure it doesnt pass? Because also, in reseaching this and other bills you mentioned I see a lot of "the sky is falling" and "ZOMG THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO LOCK US ALL UP!" but no action.

Kraven1845

Good, I hoped it would pass.AIpha-

And nothing will change. You just watch.

Wasdie

You think so? Let's hope you're right.

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

And nothing will change. You just watch.

DeadMan1290

You think so? Let's hope you're right.

The bill isn't SOPA 2. It's not directed at pirates and protection of IP over the internet. However it is very vague. One *could* see it being used to hurt our internet privacy and shut down harmless websites, but it's really kind of a stretch.

A quick glance at the bill shows that it's really meant for security in the modern age where all of our systems are connected on the internet. There are a lot of vulnerabilities. A lot of the infrastructure on in the world is owned and operated by private companies, not the government.

They even threw together an amendment to the bill limiting the governments uses of the new bill.

Faced with widespread privacy concerns, Rogers and Rep. C.A. "Dutch" Ruppersberger of Maryland, the Intelligence panel's top Democrat, pulled together an amendment that limits the government's use of threat information to five specific purposes: cybersecurity; investigation and prosecution of cybersecurity crimes; protection of individuals from death or serious bodily harm; protection of minors from child pornography; and the protection of national security.

The House passed the amendment, 410-3.MSNBC

That's pretty specific if you ask me. This whole thread is just fear mongering.

Still, the paranoid people will believe that the government will use this power to directly control every aspect of the internet. I'm not saying I agree with it, I just think this bill is being overblown and nothing really will change.

Thread full of misinformation. I know you guys are afraid of being caught doing anything illegal online, but does anyone actually understand what the law does? I mean, has anyone got the actual provisions for us to browse through?

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[QUOTE="AussieePet"]Poor Americans lol c0kemusheen

Australian internet's censored. From what I understand, you guys don't get 4ch*n.

So is their gaming industry. Honestly they have no room to talk, but that won't stop them...

Nope. We've only got a barebones system of internet censorship, that is mostly incapable of doing anything useful.

Under our current legislation, the government can't blacklist overseas websites, and can't even seek out offence websites to block/remove - the worst ACMA can do is receive complaints from the public, then request the IIA to take down RC- and X-rated content hosted on Australian websites.

As for the gaming industry, only 17 games have been perma-banned in the history of the industry, and barely a handful of those were worth playing. They were only banned because we didn't have an R18+ rating for games, which we're getting next year. Problem solved.

until people stop watching the kardashians and jersery shore and making useless post about yourselves on facebook.. laws like this will keep on happening. the masses in this country are ignorant. and don't think europe is protected from such laws like this.

and also you people who refuse to stop downloading copyrighted material have only yourselves to blame for such things like this. people who abuse systems always makes it hard for people who have done nothing wrong. it gets on my nerves seeing people brag about their illegal music collection like it's some badge of honor or something.

I've found what looks like at least part of the legislation. Only glanced through it briefly, but this bit looks promising:

(6) CYBER THREAT INFORMATION- The term `cyber threat information' means information directly pertaining to a vulnerability of, or threat to a system or network of a government or private entity, including information pertaining to the protection of a system or network from-

(A) efforts to degrade, disrupt, or destroy such system or network; or

(B) theft or misappropriation of private or government information, intellectual property, or personally identifiable information.

So...how is a law allowing for the gathering and (heavily regulated) sharing of that information going to affect you guys in any way?

Anyone know if there's a better place I can move to outside of America? Europe, Japan, Italy, etc.?

This country is so screwed up in the head.

Shinobi120

LOL @ thinking everywhere is candyland except america....europe just got slammed with another recession, and all global economies are tied to the US economy and vice versa.

Or we try to do something about it and we either get put in jail or killedOrayus

How could you possibly regulate something so vast and boundless? biggest_loser

Screw you guys couldn't even tell me what it meansAussieePet

83% of Republicans voted for CISPA.

Can someone tell me why is this so badly? AussieePet

[QUOTE="AussieePet"]Can someone tell me why is this so badly? Human-after-all

I feel like the conspiracy nuts are strong in this thread.

Already? Well ****

I bet banjo is throwing a party right now

Incramentalism. They start off small and grow until they eventually regulate every part of your life. Happened with taxes, business regulation, Healthcare, education, and now the internet. Everything the government gets involved in gets worse over time, possibly with the exception of helping big business get bigger.

Doesn't seem like SOPA 2 to me.

83% of Republicans voted for CISPA.

Blue-Sky

[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]how?

TopTierHustler

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83% of Republicans voted for CISPA.

alexside1

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[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"] Would you like someone to watch you take a crap? Didn't think so. Same thing with the internet. I don't want anyone watching what I do. You should be more concerned with your privacy and this bill instead of blowing it off. That's how this stuff gets passed, apathy. YoshiYogurt

I have not problem with either.

I think you're paranoid btw.

and still vague.

[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]Yeah, that doesn't tell me anything at all. What do you mean by privacy? My emails? Sites I've visited? Online banking data? Porn I've downloaded? What? Privacy can mean alot of things, and I keep hearing it in this thread by I haven't seen anybody explain exactlly what form of privacy we'd be losing,

TopTierHustler

I have not problem with either.

I think you're paranoid btw.

and still vague.

Passed the House, not the Senate.chessmaster1989

How could you possibly regulate something so vast and boundless? biggest_loser

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]How could you possibly regulate something so vast and boundless? sherman-tank1

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[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]How could you possibly regulate something so vast and boundless? DarkOfKnight

[QUOTE="DarkOfKnight"][QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]China did it very well.

sherman-tank1

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[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"] Yes, they want to monitor everything you are doing and they want to shut down websites as they please. Old people that don't know what they're doing are trying to altar a vast landscape they don't understand.YoshiYogurt

I have not problem with either.

I think you're paranoid btw.

and still vague.

That's for America, not the internet.

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This bill is in no way SOPA 2.0. I am not really sure where you get that idea (it has nothing to do with piracy)

nintendoboy16

And nothing will change. You just watch.

Wasdie

then why is everyone complaining?

[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="TopTierHustler"]Sounds like they want to shut down piracy and child porn sites.

I have not problem with either.

I think you're paranoid btw.

and still vague.

TopTierHustler

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

And nothing will change. You just watch.

sexyweapons

then why is everyone complaining?

facts are boring, more fun to throw poop at the fan and see the pattern it makes