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#51 Redgarl
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[QUOTE="Alexdehman234"]Just a question which of the republican candiates are friends with chuck norris cuz that who i want to winLukeAF24

Utter ignorance, why USA is in such big desh. You got a Republican recession comming, not happy enough?

Right, because no Democrats sit in Congress. :roll:

After 8 years of nightmare, you are still believing in the Republicans? Talk about been blind to death.

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why do keep saying african americans is it that hard to say black voters Alexdehman234

It's politically "correct". I for one don't have a problem with saying black.

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[QUOTE="Alexdehman234"]Dude do you want obama to win so u have to look fly popin collars with escalades and other stuff REforever101

Is that some new english from Idiocracy?

great movie....extraordinarily dumb, for sure, but interesting to say the least

I thought it was a good allusion to make for the moment.

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[QUOTE="Alexdehman234"]why do keep saying african americans is it that hard to say black voters MrDziekuje

It's politically "correct". I for one don't have a problem with saying black.

Yeah, I forgot that in America, been called black is something racist...

It's not what some peoples from Africa in my engineering classes are telling me. They clearly state themself as black peoples.

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#55 MrDziekuje
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[QUOTE="Alexdehman234"]Just a question which of the republican candiates are friends with chuck norris cuz that who i want to winRedgarl

Utter ignorance, why USA is in such big desh. You got a Republican recession comming, not happy enough?

Right, because no Democrats sit in Congress. :roll:

After 8 years of nightmare, you are still believing in the Republicans? Talk about been blind to death.

Apparently I'm blind as a bat because last I checked, America is still the most powerful nation in the world.

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After 8 years of nightmare, you are still believing in the Republicans? Talk about been blind to death.

Redgarl

I didn't say I favored one side or the other. Either way, I don't see what that has to do with what I said.

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I love how whites thought cacuasian was racise so now they just say WHITE voters but they cant say black voters

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#58 Redgarl
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[QUOTE="Redgarl"][QUOTE="LukeAF24"][QUOTE="Redgarl"]

[QUOTE="Alexdehman234"]Just a question which of the republican candiates are friends with chuck norris cuz that who i want to winMrDziekuje

Utter ignorance, why USA is in such big desh. You got a Republican recession comming, not happy enough?

Right, because no Democrats sit in Congress. :roll:

After 8 years of nightmare, you are still believing in the Republicans? Talk about been blind to death.

Apparently I'm blind as a bat because last I checked, America is still the most powerful nation in the world.

Tell that to Putin... he will simply aim it's next Tsar on America. America is maybe the most powerful nation on earth, but it's not the brightest by far.

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just like blacks are voting for Obama. This election is going to be very controversial.
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I still fail to see what all of the animosity towards Hillary is about. I fully support Obama, but saying that Hillary would be worse than one of the religious-centric war supporting Republicans is just misinformed. If anyone could give me a better reason than "I don't like that little snicker" or something to that effect, I'd be happy. Please, enlighten me what's so utterly horrible about Hillary.
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After 8 years of nightmare, you are still believing in the Republicans? Talk about been blind to death.

LukeAF24

I didn't say I favored one side or the other. Either way, I don't see what that has to do with what I said.

My point was simply pointing that Bush did everything he could to make the worst. I don't think John Kerry or Al Gore could have destroyed the reputation of the USA as far as Bush did.

Also, if you can side yourself to any parties, why are you playing at the devil advocate? To throw some oil on the fire?

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I still fail to see what all of the animosity towards Hillary is about. I fully support Obama, but saying that Hillary would be worse than one of the religious-centric war supporting Republicans is just misinformed. If anyone could give me a better reason than "I don't like that little snicker" or something to that effect, I'd be happy. Please, enlighten me what's so utterly horrible about Hillary.bman784

Uhh how about having no real stance on any issue but public healthcare?

She has been shown REPEATEDLY to flip flop, and on top of that she has to be the LEAST personable candidate ever with a personality that is less convincing than that of a machine.

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[QUOTE="LukeAF24"][QUOTE="Redgarl"]

After 8 years of nightmare, you are still believing in the Republicans? Talk about been blind to death.

Redgarl

I didn't say I favored one side or the other. Either way, I don't see what that has to do with what I said.

My point was simply pointing that Bush did everything he could to make the worst. I don't think John Kerry or Al Gore could have destroyed the reputation of the USA as far as Bush did.

Also, if you can side yourself to any parties, why are you playing at the devil advocate? To throw some oil on the fire?

Seriously... we never have had a good image and we won't until we are just some run of the mill country...

I hope McCain is president... because we need to say **** YOU EUROPE... and start helping the Middle East and Africa...

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[QUOTE="LukeAF24"][QUOTE="Redgarl"]

After 8 years of nightmare, you are still believing in the Republicans? Talk about been blind to death.

Redgarl

I didn't say I favored one side or the other. Either way, I don't see what that has to do with what I said.

My point was simply pointing that Bush did everything he could to make the worst. I don't think John Kerry or Al Gore could have destroyed the reputation of the USA as far as Bush did.

Also, if you can side yourself to any parties, why are you playing at the devil advocate? To throw some oil on the fire?

*sigh*

the bush administration has made many mistakes. but everyone always overlooks their single greatest accomplishment

the united states has not been attacked since 9/11.

many many people believed we would be attacked again within weeks or a month after sep 11th. but 7 years later, still nothing

thank you stepped up security

i hate ROFL Bush is dah SUXOR people. theres many reasons to dislike him, but damn...

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I still fail to see what all of the animosity towards Hillary is about. I fully support Obama, but saying that Hillary would be worse than one of the religious-centric war supporting Republicans is just misinformed. If anyone could give me a better reason than "I don't like that little snicker" or something to that effect, I'd be happy. Please, enlighten me what's so utterly horrible about Hillary.bman784

I don't think she will be as worst as a Republican at all, but she is not as great as Obama for sure. I have replied negatively toward some others saying that they would vote for McCain if Hilary win... that's simply stupid IMO.

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[QUOTE="bman784"]I still fail to see what all of the animosity towards Hillary is about. I fully support Obama, but saying that Hillary would be worse than one of the religious-centric war supporting Republicans is just misinformed. If anyone could give me a better reason than "I don't like that little snicker" or something to that effect, I'd be happy. Please, enlighten me what's so utterly horrible about Hillary.Thechaninator

Uhh how about having no real stance on any issue but public healthcare?

She has been shown REPEATEDLY to flip flop, and on top of that she has to be the LEAST personable candidate ever with a personality that is less convincing than that of a machine.

yeah... that and her Health Care Plan has about as much substance as a cardboard boy scout car-wash sign...

In addition it punishes people who refuse to take her Health Care...

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My point was simply pointing that Bush did everything he could to make the worst. I don't think John Kerry or Al Gore could have destroyed the reputation of the USA as far as Bush did.

Also, if you can side yourself to any parties, why are you playing at the devil advocate? To throw some oil on the fire?

Redgarl

I simply noticed you blame Bush (and Republicans in general), for the nations problems. I was pointing out that the fact that the President can't exactly make up and do whatever he/she wants. Which, contrary to popular belief, Congress does have Democrats sitting in it. A majority in fact.

For example, the things people hate Bush for:

NCLB - Passed by Congress - Voted Yes by Clinton and Obama

OEF & OIF - Passed by Congress - Voted Yes by Clinton (Obama not in office)

Patriot Act - Passed by Congress - Voted Yes by Clinton and Obama (on it's re-up).

I could go on. See a trend here? That was my point I was originally making.

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[QUOTE="Redgarl"]

My point was simply pointing that Bush did everything he could to make the worst. I don't think John Kerry or Al Gore could have destroyed the reputation of the USA as far as Bush did.

Also, if you can side yourself to any parties, why are you playing at the devil advocate? To throw some oil on the fire?

LukeAF24

I simply noticed you blame Bush (and Republicans in general), for the nations problems. I was pointing out that the fact that the President can't exactly make up and do whatever he/she wants. Which, contrary to popular belief, Congress does have Democrats sitting in it. A majority in fact.

For example, the things people hate Bush for:

NCLB - Passed by Congress - Voted Yes by Clinton and Obama

OEF & OIF - Passed by Congress - Voted Yes by Clinton (Obama not in office)

Patriot Act - Passed by Congress - Voted Yes by Clinton and Obama (on it's re-up).

I could go on. See a trend here? That was my point I was originally making.

god damn I love people like you that have seen the light...

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[QUOTE="bman784"]I still fail to see what all of the animosity towards Hillary is about. I fully support Obama, but saying that Hillary would be worse than one of the religious-centric war supporting Republicans is just misinformed. If anyone could give me a better reason than "I don't like that little snicker" or something to that effect, I'd be happy. Please, enlighten me what's so utterly horrible about Hillary.Thechaninator

Uhh how about having no real stance on any issue but public healthcare?

She has been shown REPEATEDLY to flip flop, and on top of that she has to be the LEAST personable candidate ever with a personality that is less convincing than that of a machine.


She has been inconsistent, granted, but saying that she represents some doomsday for the United States is pure hyperbole. She hasn't adopted some radical, damaging stance. She holds a left wing agenda regardless of how you want to pick apart her individual arguments. She isn't supporting 100 years of war like McCain or a theocratic state like Huckabee. And to say that Hillary is less personable than the charisma devoid shill in the White House right now just isn't true. Once again a hyperbole. I still fail to see why she's THAT bad.
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[QUOTE="REforever101"][QUOTE="Redgarl"][QUOTE="LukeAF24"][QUOTE="Redgarl"]

After 8 years of nightmare, you are still believing in the Republicans? Talk about been blind to death.

Redgarl

I didn't say I favored one side or the other. Either way, I don't see what that has to do with what I said.

My point was simply pointing that Bush did everything he could to make the worst. I don't think John Kerry or Al Gore could have destroyed the reputation of the USA as far as Bush did.

Also, if you can side yourself to any parties, why are you playing at the devil advocate? To throw some oil on the fire?

*sigh*

the bush administration has made many mistakes. but everyone always overlooks their single greatest accomplishment

the united states has not been attacked since 9/11.

many many people believed we would be attacked again within weeks or a month after sep 11th. but 7 years later, still nothing

thank you stepped up security

i hate ROFL Bush is dah SUXOR people. theres many reasons to dislike him, but damn...

A damn goat could have done the same thing! Do you believe that he really prevent anything from happening? Yeah, like the recession he provoked... don't lure yourself, he did more worst internationally.

Want to see the last survey in Canada... 52% of the Canadian think the USA is the most dangerous country in the world...

In Quebec it's 56%... happy lunatic?

http://cf.news.yahoo.com/s/04022008/3/national-sondage-canada-monde-les-tats-unis-inspirent-la-mefiance.html

No offense, but since when does Canada's opinion mean anything to America domestically? Canadians don't live in America, they live in Canada. How would they know the current situation here?
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[QUOTE="REforever101"][QUOTE="Redgarl"][QUOTE="LukeAF24"][QUOTE="Redgarl"]

After 8 years of nightmare, you are still believing in the Republicans? Talk about been blind to death.

Redgarl

I didn't say I favored one side or the other. Either way, I don't see what that has to do with what I said.

My point was simply pointing that Bush did everything he could to make the worst. I don't think John Kerry or Al Gore could have destroyed the reputation of the USA as far as Bush did.

Also, if you can side yourself to any parties, why are you playing at the devil advocate? To throw some oil on the fire?

*sigh*

the bush administration has made many mistakes. but everyone always overlooks their single greatest accomplishment

the united states has not been attacked since 9/11.

many many people believed we would be attacked again within weeks or a month after sep 11th. but 7 years later, still nothing

thank you stepped up security

i hate ROFL Bush is dah SUXOR people. theres many reasons to dislike him, but damn...

A damn goat could have done the same thing! Do you believe that he really prevent anything from happening? Yeah, like the recession he provoked... don't lure yourself, he did more worst internationally.

Want to see the last survey in Canada... 52% of the Canadian think the USA is the most dangerous country in the world...

In Quebec it's 56%... happy lunatic?

http://cf.news.yahoo.com/s/04022008/3/national-sondage-canada-monde-les-tats-unis-inspirent-la-mefiance.html

i dislike bush, but no, a goat could not do the same

a lamb perhaps, but certainly not a goat

oh, and were you calling me a lunatic? or was i just misunderstanding you

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LOL... Canadians have a lot of national pride... America could easily grap up Canada right now if we wanted to... BUT WERE NOT...

You can rest assured Canada... your maple syrup is safe as long as we are here...

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[QUOTE="Redgarl"][QUOTE="REforever101"][QUOTE="Redgarl"][QUOTE="LukeAF24"][QUOTE="Redgarl"]

After 8 years of nightmare, you are still believing in the Republicans? Talk about been blind to death.

CommanderShiro

I didn't say I favored one side or the other. Either way, I don't see what that has to do with what I said.

My point was simply pointing that Bush did everything he could to make the worst. I don't think John Kerry or Al Gore could have destroyed the reputation of the USA as far as Bush did.

Also, if you can side yourself to any parties, why are you playing at the devil advocate? To throw some oil on the fire?

*sigh*

the bush administration has made many mistakes. but everyone always overlooks their single greatest accomplishment

the united states has not been attacked since 9/11.

many many people believed we would be attacked again within weeks or a month after sep 11th. but 7 years later, still nothing

thank you stepped up security

i hate ROFL Bush is dah SUXOR people. theres many reasons to dislike him, but damn...

A damn goat could have done the same thing! Do you believe that he really prevent anything from happening? Yeah, like the recession he provoked... don't lure yourself, he did more worst internationally.

Want to see the last survey in Canada... 52% of the Canadian think the USA is the most dangerous country in the world...

In Quebec it's 56%... happy lunatic?

http://cf.news.yahoo.com/s/04022008/3/national-sondage-canada-monde-les-tats-unis-inspirent-la-mefiance.html

No offense, but since when does Canada's opinion mean anything to America domestically? Canadians don't live in America, they live in Canada. How would they know the current situation here?

Are you an hermit? Canada is like little sister America. It's the damn same country in the english provinces. They got the same culture as you, they are listening to the same TV and the same music.

Even there, it's a good indicator at what USA is to the eyes of the world. Only America dare to say bad thing about Canada. Too bad that canadian anglophone where royalist american in the first place. They are the same as you. You need history ****s.

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[QUOTE="bman784"]I still fail to see what all of the animosity towards Hillary is about. I fully support Obama, but saying that Hillary would be worse than one of the religious-centric war supporting Republicans is just misinformed. If anyone could give me a better reason than "I don't like that little snicker" or something to that effect, I'd be happy. Please, enlighten me what's so utterly horrible about Hillary.bman784

Uhh how about having no real stance on any issue but public healthcare?

She has been shown REPEATEDLY to flip flop, and on top of that she has to be the LEAST personable candidate ever with a personality that is less convincing than that of a machine.


She has been inconsistent, granted, but saying that she represents some doomsday for the United States is pure hyperbole. She hasn't adopted some radical, damaging stance. She holds a left wing agenda regardless of how you want to pick apart her individual arguments. She isn't supporting 100 years of war like McCain or a theocratic state like Huckabee. And to say that Hillary is less personable than the charisma devoid shill in the White House right now just isn't true. Once again a hyperbole. I still fail to see why she's THAT bad.

No stance is worse than any stance in my eye. Electing a leader who you have no real idea WHAT they stand for or what they are gonna do in office is ridiculous.

To prove just how bad she is with this, here is the first campaign smear vid I have ever seen that is worth the viewing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-F4nDGOalg

I love how that last one she managed to change her stance 3-4 times within 2 minutes.

Yeah, she really is that bad.

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[QUOTE="CommanderShiro"][QUOTE="Redgarl"][QUOTE="REforever101"][QUOTE="Redgarl"][QUOTE="LukeAF24"][QUOTE="Redgarl"]

After 8 years of nightmare, you are still believing in the Republicans? Talk about been blind to death.

Redgarl

I didn't say I favored one side or the other. Either way, I don't see what that has to do with what I said.

My point was simply pointing that Bush did everything he could to make the worst. I don't think John Kerry or Al Gore could have destroyed the reputation of the USA as far as Bush did.

Also, if you can side yourself to any parties, why are you playing at the devil advocate? To throw some oil on the fire?

*sigh*

the bush administration has made many mistakes. but everyone always overlooks their single greatest accomplishment

the united states has not been attacked since 9/11.

many many people believed we would be attacked again within weeks or a month after sep 11th. but 7 years later, still nothing

thank you stepped up security

i hate ROFL Bush is dah SUXOR people. theres many reasons to dislike him, but damn...

A damn goat could have done the same thing! Do you believe that he really prevent anything from happening? Yeah, like the recession he provoked... don't lure yourself, he did more worst internationally.

Want to see the last survey in Canada... 52% of the Canadian think the USA is the most dangerous country in the world...

In Quebec it's 56%... happy lunatic?

http://cf.news.yahoo.com/s/04022008/3/national-sondage-canada-monde-les-tats-unis-inspirent-la-mefiance.html

No offense, but since when does Canada's opinion mean anything to America domestically? Canadians don't live in America, they live in Canada. How would they know the current situation here?

Are you an hermit? Canada is like little sister America. It's the damn same country in the english provinces. They got the same culture as you, they are listening to the same TV and the same music.

Even there, it's a good indicator at what USA is to the eyes of the world. Only America dare to say bad thing about Canada. Too bad that canadian anglophone where royalist american in the first place. They are the same as you. You need history ****s.

could you please watch your tone

you're really beginning to sound disrespectful.

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[QUOTE="CommanderShiro"][QUOTE="Redgarl"][QUOTE="REforever101"][QUOTE="Redgarl"][QUOTE="LukeAF24"][QUOTE="Redgarl"]

After 8 years of nightmare, you are still believing in the Republicans? Talk about been blind to death.

Redgarl

I didn't say I favored one side or the other. Either way, I don't see what that has to do with what I said.

My point was simply pointing that Bush did everything he could to make the worst. I don't think John Kerry or Al Gore could have destroyed the reputation of the USA as far as Bush did.

Also, if you can side yourself to any parties, why are you playing at the devil advocate? To throw some oil on the fire?

*sigh*

the bush administration has made many mistakes. but everyone always overlooks their single greatest accomplishment

the united states has not been attacked since 9/11.

many many people believed we would be attacked again within weeks or a month after sep 11th. but 7 years later, still nothing

thank you stepped up security

i hate ROFL Bush is dah SUXOR people. theres many reasons to dislike him, but damn...

A damn goat could have done the same thing! Do you believe that he really prevent anything from happening? Yeah, like the recession he provoked... don't lure yourself, he did more worst internationally.

Want to see the last survey in Canada... 52% of the Canadian think the USA is the most dangerous country in the world...

In Quebec it's 56%... happy lunatic?

http://cf.news.yahoo.com/s/04022008/3/national-sondage-canada-monde-les-tats-unis-inspirent-la-mefiance.html

No offense, but since when does Canada's opinion mean anything to America domestically? Canadians don't live in America, they live in Canada. How would they know the current situation here?

Are you an hermit? Canada is like little sister America. It's the damn same country in the english provinces. They got the same culture as you, they are listening to the same TV and the same music.

Even there, it's a good indicator at what USA is to the eyes of the world. Only America dare to say bad thing about Canada. Too bad that canadian anglophone where royalist american in the first place. They are the same as you. You need history ****s.

Canada has more of an importance to us Michiganders too. Border policies directly effect us along with water policies because of the great lakes.

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LOL... Canadians have a lot of national pride... America could easily grap up Canada right now if we wanted to... BUT WERE NOT...

You can rest assured Canada... your maple syrup is safe as long as we are here...

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Dare to try, and you got Russia right in your butt because of the all the blutene here. You know that we are providing you all the energy of your east coast and 60% of your oil?

We only need to turn off the switch and your country go back into 1800. Before you get back to us, an Alliance with the Europe and the UN could easily take you down. Russia could be more than happy to help.

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OBAMA IS PULLING AHEAD!!! MAY ALL OBAMA SUPPORTERS AND REPUBLICANS REJOICE!!!!
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OBAMA IS PULLING AHEAD!!! MAY ALL OBAMA SUPPORTERS AND REPUBLICANS REJOICE!!!!---LOST---

Clinton is beating him pretty decent in CA, atm.

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#81 ---LOST---
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LOL... Canadians have a lot of national pride... America could easily grap up Canada right now if we wanted to... BUT WERE NOT...

You can rest assured Canada... your maple syrup is safe as long as we are here...

Redgarl

Dare to try, and you got Russia right in your butt because of the all the blutene here. You know that we are providing you all the energy of your east coast and 60% of your oil?

We only need to turn off the switch and your country go back into 1800. Before you get back to us, an Alliance with the Europe and the UN could easily take you down. Russia could be more than happy to help.

A. I'm well aware of Canada's oil B. the UN is weaker than Panama C. Europe is full of **** that won't help the dying children of Africa much less an small tundra nation...

I Like Canada... don't get the wrong idea...

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#82 Redgarl
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could you please watch your tone

you're really beginning to sound disrespectful.

REforever101

I said classes, but for unknown reasons it was reduced to ****

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#83 CommanderShiro
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[QUOTE="CommanderShiro"][QUOTE="Redgarl"][QUOTE="REforever101"][QUOTE="Redgarl"][QUOTE="LukeAF24"][QUOTE="Redgarl"]

After 8 years of nightmare, you are still believing in the Republicans? Talk about been blind to death.

Redgarl

I didn't say I favored one side or the other. Either way, I don't see what that has to do with what I said.

My point was simply pointing that Bush did everything he could to make the worst. I don't think John Kerry or Al Gore could have destroyed the reputation of the USA as far as Bush did.

Also, if you can side yourself to any parties, why are you playing at the devil advocate? To throw some oil on the fire?

*sigh*

the bush administration has made many mistakes. but everyone always overlooks their single greatest accomplishment

the united states has not been attacked since 9/11.

many many people believed we would be attacked again within weeks or a month after sep 11th. but 7 years later, still nothing

thank you stepped up security

i hate ROFL Bush is dah SUXOR people. theres many reasons to dislike him, but damn...

A damn goat could have done the same thing! Do you believe that he really prevent anything from happening? Yeah, like the recession he provoked... don't lure yourself, he did more worst internationally.

Want to see the last survey in Canada... 52% of the Canadian think the USA is the most dangerous country in the world...

In Quebec it's 56%... happy lunatic?

http://cf.news.yahoo.com/s/04022008/3/national-sondage-canada-monde-les-tats-unis-inspirent-la-mefiance.html

No offense, but since when does Canada's opinion mean anything to America domestically? Canadians don't live in America, they live in Canada. How would they know the current situation here?

Are you an hermit? Canada is like little sister America. It's the damn same country in the english provinces. They got the same culture as you, they are listening to the same TV and the same music.

Even there, it's a good indicator at what USA is to the eyes of the world. Only America dare to say bad thing about Canada. Too bad that canadian anglophone where royalist american in the first place. They are the same as you. You need history ****s.

You're overreacting. The point I'm trying to get across is that Canadians are not American citizens, they are Canadian citzens.
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[QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="Thechaninator"]

[QUOTE="bman784"]I still fail to see what all of the animosity towards Hillary is about. I fully support Obama, but saying that Hillary would be worse than one of the religious-centric war supporting Republicans is just misinformed. If anyone could give me a better reason than "I don't like that little snicker" or something to that effect, I'd be happy. Please, enlighten me what's so utterly horrible about Hillary.Thechaninator

Uhh how about having no real stance on any issue but public healthcare?

She has been shown REPEATEDLY to flip flop, and on top of that she has to be the LEAST personable candidate ever with a personality that is less convincing than that of a machine.


She has been inconsistent, granted, but saying that she represents some doomsday for the United States is pure hyperbole. She hasn't adopted some radical, damaging stance. She holds a left wing agenda regardless of how you want to pick apart her individual arguments. She isn't supporting 100 years of war like McCain or a theocratic state like Huckabee. And to say that Hillary is less personable than the charisma devoid shill in the White House right now just isn't true. Once again a hyperbole. I still fail to see why she's THAT bad.

No stance is worse than any stance in my eye. Electing a leader who you have no real idea WHAT they stand for or what they are gonna do in office is ridiculous.

To prove just how bad she is with this, here is the first campaign smear vid I have ever seen that is worth the viewing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-F4nDGOalg

I love how that last one she managed to change her stance 3-4 times within 2 minutes.

Yeah, she really is that bad.


I already said she was inconsistent. But to say that she is worse than a theocratic proponent or an economically ignorant warmonger simply because her statements have been confusing is a very limited view.
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#85 Redgarl
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[QUOTE="Redgarl"][QUOTE="---LOST---"]

LOL... Canadians have a lot of national pride... America could easily grap up Canada right now if we wanted to... BUT WERE NOT...

You can rest assured Canada... your maple syrup is safe as long as we are here...

---LOST---

Dare to try, and you got Russia right in your butt because of the all the blutene here. You know that we are providing you all the energy of your east coast and 60% of your oil?

We only need to turn off the switch and your country go back into 1800. Before you get back to us, an Alliance with the Europe and the UN could easily take you down. Russia could be more than happy to help.

A. I'm well aware of Canada's oil B. the UN is weaker than Panama C. Europe is full of **** that won't help the dying children of Africa much less an small tundra nation...

I Like Canada... don't get the wrong idea...

Europe will help one of the most respected country of the world, espescially with all the energetic potential here. You know that we are the biggest producer of clean electricity in the world? Hydroelectricity, much of the world aluminium is made here because of that.

Also with the road of the North opening, Canada would be much more for the world than any americans seem to believe. They would not let that happen, trust me about that.

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#86 REforever101
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could you please watch your tone

you're really beginning to sound disrespectful.

Redgarl

I said classes, but for unknown reasons it was reduced to ****

im not talking about that

i mean the general tone of your last few posts. like calling me a lunatic...

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#87 ---LOST---
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McCain isn't ignorant... I think any man that has the balls to put bombing Iran to a 60's jingle on national TV deserves to lead a country...

plus I think Iraq has turned into a good thing... people are starting to move back and Iran is backing off...

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#88 ---LOST---
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[QUOTE="---LOST---"][QUOTE="Redgarl"][QUOTE="---LOST---"]

LOL... Canadians have a lot of national pride... America could easily grap up Canada right now if we wanted to... BUT WERE NOT...

You can rest assured Canada... your maple syrup is safe as long as we are here...

Redgarl

Dare to try, and you got Russia right in your butt because of the all the blutene here. You know that we are providing you all the energy of your east coast and 60% of your oil?

We only need to turn off the switch and your country go back into 1800. Before you get back to us, an Alliance with the Europe and the UN could easily take you down. Russia could be more than happy to help.

A. I'm well aware of Canada's oil B. the UN is weaker than Panama C. Europe is full of **** that won't help the dying children of Africa much less an small tundra nation...

I Like Canada... don't get the wrong idea...

Europe will help one of the most respected country of the world, espescially with all the energetic potential here. You know that we are the biggest producer of clean electricity in the world? Hydroelectricity, much of the world aluminium is made here because of that.

Also with the road of the North opening, Canada would be much more for the world than any americans seem to believe. They would not let that happen, trust me about that.

yeah... there is a zero emission plant going into my back-water Illinois town...

and umm... you overestimate Europe... why do Canadians hate us soo much? We're on YOUR side...

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McCain isn't ignorant... I think any man that has the balls to put bombing Iran to a 60's jingle on national TV deserves to lead a country...

plus I think Iraq has turned into a good thing... people are starting to move back and Iran is backing off...

---LOST---

He has stated that he knows nothing about the economy, and also that he would stay in Iraq for 100 years. It's delusional to think that Iraq was somehow a success. It has achieved nothing other than creating a greater threat of terrorism and increased sectarian violence which wouldn't have existed if we had never invaded.
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#90 Thechaninator
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[QUOTE="Thechaninator"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="Thechaninator"]

[QUOTE="bman784"]I still fail to see what all of the animosity towards Hillary is about. I fully support Obama, but saying that Hillary would be worse than one of the religious-centric war supporting Republicans is just misinformed. If anyone could give me a better reason than "I don't like that little snicker" or something to that effect, I'd be happy. Please, enlighten me what's so utterly horrible about Hillary.bman784

Uhh how about having no real stance on any issue but public healthcare?

She has been shown REPEATEDLY to flip flop, and on top of that she has to be the LEAST personable candidate ever with a personality that is less convincing than that of a machine.


She has been inconsistent, granted, but saying that she represents some doomsday for the United States is pure hyperbole. She hasn't adopted some radical, damaging stance. She holds a left wing agenda regardless of how you want to pick apart her individual arguments. She isn't supporting 100 years of war like McCain or a theocratic state like Huckabee. And to say that Hillary is less personable than the charisma devoid shill in the White House right now just isn't true. Once again a hyperbole. I still fail to see why she's THAT bad.

No stance is worse than any stance in my eye. Electing a leader who you have no real idea WHAT they stand for or what they are gonna do in office is ridiculous.

To prove just how bad she is with this, here is the first campaign smear vid I have ever seen that is worth the viewing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-F4nDGOalg

I love how that last one she managed to change her stance 3-4 times within 2 minutes.

Yeah, she really is that bad.


I already said she was inconsistent. But to say that she is worse than a theocratic proponent or an economically ignorant warmonger simply because her statements have been confusing is a very limited view.

Her statements aren't confusing, she is a downright liar and shes getting off with it.

As far as I know Mccain isn't going to turn this into a theocracy and with no real gaurantee Hillary would get us out of Iraq his stance on Iraq isn't that big of a sacrifice to have a candidate we actually know stands for something....

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#91 Redgarl
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[QUOTE="Redgarl"][QUOTE="REforever101"]

could you please watch your tone

you're really beginning to sound disrespectful.

REforever101

I said classes, but for unknown reasons it was reduced to ****

im not talking about that

i mean the general tone of your last few posts. like calling me a lunatic...

You have reacted like a perfect american and that's what make me mad. This global feeling isn't only in Canada, but in many other countries. Denying that it got importance because it's only in Canada is careless.

Since Bush got into presidency, the USA in the world lost a lot of credibility and it's a fact. That' one of the reason why Obama is so well received outside your country, because we got the impression that not only could he do something important for USA, but also for the whole world.

Having him say to the whole world that we need to fight for global warming could be the answer to save humanity. like you see, it's not only your election.

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Her statements aren't confusing, she is a downright liar and shes getting off with it.

As far as I know Mccain isn't going to turn this into a theocracy and with no real gaurantee Hillary would get us out of Iraq his stance on Iraq isn't that big of a sacrifice to have a candidate we actually know stands for something....

Thechaninator

So you're saying that you would accept a candidate who supports staying in Iraq for an indefinite period, and who knows nothing about the economy (he has stated this), just because he stands for SOMETHING? Excuse me if I can't accept that as logical.
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Dur hur... I hope Hillary wins the Democratic nomination. I'm a Republican and I don't think we'll be able to take the White House if Obama gets the nom.

Just saying...

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#94 Redgarl
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Dur hur... I hope Hillary wins the Democratic nomination. I'm a Republican and I don't think we'll be able to take the White House if Obama gets the nom.

Just saying...

Dutch_Mix

Even there, are you dennying that Obama nomination could be a bad thing?

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I laugh at those who think the EU would stand up for Canada. For one, if Canada did shut off America's oil supply, it'd make canada look bad and ruin their EU support in the first place. But say we did decide to Annex Canada. China's economy is heavily influenced and affected by the United States as are several other nations, i gaurentee you those are nations that wont let the world bum**** the US and will send troops to defend US soil. Not because they like the US, but because they arent prepared for the economic effects it would have. Knowing this, the EU being as it is, would NOT commit to ANY military action to Canada, instead sending some economic aid and supplies.

Russia's a wild card. If the US promises to continue resource trade with russia before we annex Canada, and promise to lower oil prices exclusively for russia in exchange for a treaty, no doubt they would back off as well. So no, Canada's screwed, ANY way you put it.

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#96 Dutch_Mix
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[QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"]

Dur hur... I hope Hillary wins the Democratic nomination. I'm a Republican and I don't think we'll be able to take the White House if Obama gets the nom.

Just saying...

Redgarl

Even there, are you dennying that Obama nomination could be a bad thing?

Yeah... Obama is for everything I'm against.

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#97 Thechaninator
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[QUOTE="Thechaninator"]

Her statements aren't confusing, she is a downright liar and shes getting off with it.

As far as I know Mccain isn't going to turn this into a theocracy and with no real gaurantee Hillary would get us out of Iraq his stance on Iraq isn't that big of a sacrifice to have a candidate we actually know stands for something....

bman784


So you're saying that you would accept a candidate who supports staying in Iraq for an indefinite period, and who knows nothing about the economy (he has stated this), just because he stands for SOMETHING? Excuse me if I can't accept that as logical.

Yes, because I do not trust a president who can't even state what they stand for. Either she has no idea WHAT to stand for (which is pathetic really) or what she stands for is something she know won't get votes....

I'll elect a president based on what I can expect. Besides, Mccain will have to fight with congress to get anything done but as Hillary's a democrat that won't be neccessarily true....

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#98 Redgarl
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I laugh at those who think the EU would stand up for Canada. For one, if Canada did shut off America's oil supply, it'd make canada look bad and ruin their EU support in the first place. But say we did decide to Annex Canada. China's economy is heavily influenced and affected by the United States as are several other nations, i gaurentee you those are nations that wont let the world bum**** the US and will send troops to defend US soil. Not because they like the US, but because they arent prepared for the economic effects it would have. Knowing this, the EU being as it is, would NOT commit to ANY military action to Canada, instead sending some economic aid and supplies.

Russia's a wild card. If the US promises to continue resource trade with russia before we annex Canada, and promise to lower oil prices exclusively for russia in exchange for a treaty, no doubt they would back off as well. So no, Canada's screwed, ANY way you put it.

Tolwan

Click, half of the USA is in blackout. Remember this...?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_North_America_blackout

Also, no more oil for you. You think Tio Tinto would be happy? Russia only wait to get back at America. Also, it's well known that Europeis really close to Canada, in fact, we are almost part of it.

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#99 Lockedge
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Just a question which of the republican candiates are friends with chuck norris cuz that who i want to winAlexdehman234

Congrats, you want Huckabee to win.

He wants to transform USA's consitution to better fit his stance on God, turning the country into a Theocracy.

Enjoy!