College Sophomore writes column about Rape and gets lambasted, now defending it

Legally one is not allowed to make a contract in a state of impairment. So don't expect that being with a drunk girl won't have consequences. In fact....the ethical thing to do is send them home. I feel no sympathy for anyone that preys on a drunk whether male or female.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Legally one is not allowed to make a contract in a state of impairment. So don't expect that being with a drunk girl won't have consequences. In fact....the ethical thing to do is send them home. I feel no sympathy for anyone that preys on a drunk whether male or female.Diablo-B

[QUOTE="Diablo-B"] So your saying that once a person drinks they should no longer be held responsible for their actions?Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Diablo-B"] So a Jack is at a party. Mary comes up to him and says, "I want you bad." He follows her and they have sex. Next week he gets a greeting from the police saying that he took advantage of a drunk person. Your saying Jack is a rapists and should go to jail?Vandalvideo

However we are off topic. The columnist didn't contend to whether its legal or not but that in reality its not rape if a situation like the one mentioned above takes place.

So I guess people need to walk around with breathalyzers before they hook up with someone.However we are off topic. The columnist didn't contend to whether its legal or not but that in reality its not rape if a situation like the one mentioned above takes place.Diablo-B

[QUOTE="Diablo-B"] So I guess people need to walk around with breathalyzers before they hook up with someone.However we are off topic. The columnist didn't contend to whether its legal or not but that in reality its not rape if a situation like the one mentioned above takes place.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Diablo-B"] I can see the point you wanted to make but let me discuss what you actually said. Pedophiles are people who are attracted to prepubescent kids. They aren't being tricked by boys/girls who look older they they are. They purposely search for "YOUNG" looking people. Thats the definition of a pedophile. Pedophiles aren't people that just happen to accidentally fall into a sticky situation.Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Diablo-B"] So a Jack is at a party. Mary comes up to him and says, "I want you bad." He follows her and they have sex. Next week he gets a greeting from the police saying that he took advantage of a drunk person. Your saying Jack is a rapists and should go to jail?Diablo-B

However we are off topic. The columnist didn't contend to whether its legal or not but that in reality its not rape if a situation like the one mentioned above takes place.

Here's an easy rule, if the girl looks completely wasted, don't sleep with her, easy as that.

[QUOTE="Diablo-B"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]The one who did the action should be at fault in both scenarios...and in many cases it wasn't the girl. They do pass out.....LJS9502_basic

What if both parties are impaired? Is it simultaneous rape then if neither can legally consent? I certainly agree that it is wrong for a sober man to prey on a drunken women, but if both parties are drunk and consent, how do you prosecute that?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Diablo-B"] 100% true. However thats not the case that the columnist brought up. We are talking about a drunk person actively making a bad decision. If you make the conscience decision to consume large amounts of alcohol who is to blame for you not being able to make the best decisions? Only yourself.xXBuffJeffXx

What if both parties are impaired? Is it simultaneous rape then if neither can legally consent? I certainly agree that it is wrong for a sober man to prey on a drunken women, but if both parties are drunk and consent, how do you prosecute that?

Here's an easy rule, if the girl looks completely wasted, don't sleep with her, easy as that.theone86

Rape is an act of power and control, not sex, Lockedge

What if both parties are impaired? Is it simultaneous rape then if neither can legally consent? I certainly agree that it is wrong for a sober man to prey on a drunken women, but if both parties are drunk and consent, how do you prosecute that?

xXBuffJeffXx

Here's the probvlem with that, the only person who can attest to the guy's drunkeness is the guy himself, what if he's just claiming to be drunk to get off the hook? I suppose there's some margin for error, but the primary purpose of the law is to prevent victims/potential victims, which is for the most part women. If you throw the entire date rape idea out the window because there might be a small percentage of situations where it's been abused then you'll be abadnoning all the women who were really taken advantadge of and do need the law.

[QUOTE="theone86"] Here's an easy rule, if the girl looks completely wasted, don't sleep with her, easy as that.Diablo-B

Where is the cut off point when a person can say he/she is impaired and absolved of responsibility for their actions?

Like I said, you can usually tell when they're drunk. If you're really that worried, don't sleep with someone you met at a party, get a number and set up a real date.

Here's the problem with that, the only person who can attest to the guy's drunkeness is the guy himself, what if he's just claiming to be drunk to get off the hook?...theone86

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Legally one is not allowed to make a contract in a state of impairment. So don't expect that being with a drunk girl won't have consequences. In fact....the ethical thing to do is send them home. I feel no sympathy for anyone that preys on a drunk whether male or female.LJS9502_basic

What if both parties are impaired? Is it simultaneous rape then if neither can legally consent? I certainly agree that it is wrong for a sober man to prey on a drunken women, but if both parties are drunk and consent, how do you prosecute that?

[QUOTE="Lockedge"] Rape is an act of power and control, not sex, LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="theone86"]Here's the problem with that, the only person who can attest to the guy's drunkeness is the guy himself, what if he's just claiming to be drunk to get off the hook?...Diablo-B

I think at least the things he said in the interview are correct. As an adult woman she should know the risk. If I where flammable clothes and run through a fire I should expect to get burned.jeremiah06

Also, I dont care how drunk or sober you are, but it is not rape unless the woman says "no".

Unless she is drugged and/or unconscious.

Wow, he sounds like a complete dick. "Let's get this straight: any woman who heads to an EI party as an anonymous onlooker, drinks five cups of the jungle juice, and walks back to a boy's room with him is indicating that she wants sex, OK?" Or that she's drunk and doesn't understand entirely what she's doing. :| He really sounds like one of those "Women who dress xyz way really want it" people. In short, a rape apologist.Theokhoth