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#51 cametall
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Yeah, great idea. Lets tax soda because we think people drink too much of it. Thanks for dictating how I live my life even more. Next up would be fast food and red meat. This sounds like something California would do... oh wait, look who is the Speaker of the House (I doubt this crap would pass anyways).
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#52 deactivated-5a79221380856
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It's a bit deceitful. I can see that.
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#53 fidosim
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[QUOTE="fidosim"]The talk of salary caps concerns me more, but this is still a little strange.Pirate700

The salary cap proposition is just for the companies that received bailouts......I hope anyway.

Still, placing limits on how much anyone is allowed to earn, even an evil capitalist is starting down a dangerous road.
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]Congress considers a lot of things. But there is a reason why it is called "Congress" rather than "Progress". guynamedbilly

True. These penalty taxes are all just padding the pockets of the politicians for their pet projects rather than actually do something worthwhile like providing for everyone to go for routine physicals for free so that can see how their life may be hurting them. They do nothing to fix the actual problem. That said, it won't happen, at least not right now.


Are you kidding me? Thats way too "socialist" for an American. (Yes Im generalizing, mainly because its true)
If anything I'm not surprised they want to make money any way they can. You see, that debt isnt going to reduce its self you know. Thanks to Bush and his aggressive policy in the middle east the US now has to spend more money in the long term because it has a responsibility to restore peace in a war torn nation, as it was the US who put the country into turmoil. (Iraq).
So if you are against taxing people to reduce debt, what shall the Obama admin do? Reduce taxes? Don't be so ridiculous

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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]Congress considers a lot of things. But there is a reason why it is called "Congress" rather than "Progress". carrot-cake

True. These penalty taxes are all just padding the pockets of the politicians for their pet projects rather than actually do something worthwhile like providing for everyone to go for routine physicals for free so that can see how their life may be hurting them. They do nothing to fix the actual problem. That said, it won't happen, at least not right now.


Are you kidding me? Thats way too "socialist" for an American. (Yes Im generalizing, mainly because its true)
If anything I'm not surprised they want to make money any way they can. You see, that debt isnt going to reduce its self you know. Thanks to Bush and his aggressive policy in the middle east the US now has to spend more money in the long term because it has a responsibility to restore peace in a war torn nation, as it was the US who put the country into turmoil. (Iraq).
So if you are against taxing people to reduce debt, what shall the Obama admin do? Reduce taxes? Don't be so ridiculous

You think that want to tax sodas to cut the national debt? How about shrinking the military spending, foreign aid, skynet america, and corporate bailouts?

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#56 spoofnutz
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Soda tax is a good idea- it would cut obesity by half. But then, if mfg's just went back to sugar and dropped HFCS, that would make a huge difference. High-Fructose Corn Syrup is 55% D-glucose (Dextrose) and 45% fructose (L-glucose). Both are are monosaccharides, whereas sucrose (common sugar) is a disaccharide. Sucrose is much lower on the Glycemic index than either stereo isomer of glucose, and fructose (L-glucose) is only assimilated by the liver, which just makes you fat if over-consumed. Don't believe the pro-HFCS commercials- they lie through their teeth in the hopes of fooling idiots like you.

The bottom line is, producing sugar from GM corn crops is much cheaper than buying it from cane producers in Hawaii and Florida, so they try to dupe the public into thinking HFCS is just as good, when, biologically, it is not.

You know what they say about High Fructose Corn Syrup? THIS is what they say about it.

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#57 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="carrot-cake"]

[QUOTE="guynamedbilly"] True. These penalty taxes are all just padding the pockets of the politicians for their pet projects rather than actually do something worthwhile like providing for everyone to go for routine physicals for free so that can see how their life may be hurting them. They do nothing to fix the actual problem. That said, it won't happen, at least not right now.

guynamedbilly


Are you kidding me? Thats way too "socialist" for an American. (Yes Im generalizing, mainly because its true)
If anything I'm not surprised they want to make money any way they can. You see, that debt isnt going to reduce its self you know. Thanks to Bush and his aggressive policy in the middle east the US now has to spend more money in the long term because it has a responsibility to restore peace in a war torn nation, as it was the US who put the country into turmoil. (Iraq).
So if you are against taxing people to reduce debt, what shall the Obama admin do? Reduce taxes? Don't be so ridiculous

You think that want to tax sodas to cut the national debt? How about shrinking the military spending, foreign aid, skynet america, and corporate bailouts?

Bailouts and especially foreign aid, yes. The rest no.

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#58 UnrighteousFury
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Goodness. Texas has a crazy high sales tax as it is.

When things reach the point where I can't afford to buy a bottle of Fanta, I'll know it's time to take up arms.

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[QUOTE="guynamedbilly"]

[QUOTE="carrot-cake"]
Are you kidding me? Thats way too "socialist" for an American. (Yes Im generalizing, mainly because its true)
If anything I'm not surprised they want to make money any way they can. You see, that debt isnt going to reduce its self you know. Thanks to Bush and his aggressive policy in the middle east the US now has to spend more money in the long term because it has a responsibility to restore peace in a war torn nation, as it was the US who put the country into turmoil. (Iraq).
So if you are against taxing people to reduce debt, what shall the Obama admin do? Reduce taxes? Don't be so ridiculous

Pirate700

You think that want to tax sodas to cut the national debt? How about shrinking the military spending, foreign aid, skynet america, and corporate bailouts?

Bailouts and especially foreign aid, yes. The rest no.


Why not shrink military spending? Does the US need to be the world police?
Taxing soda is an easy and quick way to generate revenue. Cutting spending in all areas is necessary, unless it is already severly underfunded. Social security needs to be completely overhauled.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="guynamedbilly"] You think that want to tax sodas to cut the national debt? How about shrinking the military spending, foreign aid, skynet america, and corporate bailouts?

carrot-cake

Bailouts and especially foreign aid, yes. The rest no.


Why not shrink military spending? Does the US need to be the world police?
Taxing soda is an easy and quick way to generate revenue. Cutting spending in all areas is necessary, unless it is already severly underfunded. Social security needs to be completely overhauled.

Our military spending is fine. We didn't get to be the most powerful country in the world by not doing so. I'd like to keep it that way. Foreign aid BS needs to take a hike.

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#61 carrot-cake
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[QUOTE="carrot-cake"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Bailouts and especially foreign aid, yes. The rest no.

Pirate700


Why not shrink military spending? Does the US need to be the world police?
Taxing soda is an easy and quick way to generate revenue. Cutting spending in all areas is necessary, unless it is already severly underfunded. Social security needs to be completely overhauled.

Our military spending is fine. We didn't get to be the most powerful country in the world by not doing so. I'd like to keep it that way. Foreign aid BS needs to take a hike.


Does it even matter anymore in this day and age? There are enough nuclear weapons in existence to deter major powers from going to war with each other. I think the US needs to cut military spending and start spending the money on the country and its people. Not its military so it can be the biggest bully in the playground.

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#62 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="carrot-cake"]
Why not shrink military spending? Does the US need to be the world police?
Taxing soda is an easy and quick way to generate revenue. Cutting spending in all areas is necessary, unless it is already severly underfunded. Social security needs to be completely overhauled.

carrot-cake

Our military spending is fine. We didn't get to be the most powerful country in the world by not doing so. I'd like to keep it that way. Foreign aid BS needs to take a hike.


Does it even matter anymore in this day and age? There are enough nuclear weapons in existence to deter major powers from going to war with each other. I think the US needs to cut military spending and start spending the money on the country and its people. Not its military so it can be the biggest bully in the playground.

I disagree.

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#63 hedden93
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this crap is getting ridiculous

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#64 Pirate700
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this crap is getting ridiculous

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Eventually this will wear on enough folks and we will only have to suffer through one term of this crap and we can go back to being America.

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[QUOTE="hedden93"]

this crap is getting ridiculous

Pirate700

Eventually this will wear on enough folks and we will only have to suffer through one term of this crap and we can go back to being America.

LOL. :) Obama has his next term already in the bag.

Republicans are not going to win again for at least2 more elections. I officially place my bet (and I almostNEVER bet on things I can't control).

The voice of the GOP right now is Rush. Or maybe Chaney. A new leader has to be found and developed before Republicans can hope for a chance. And it is not Palin or that dude from Louisiana.

Oh, and the soda tax? Well, other bad-for-you things are taxed. Another 5 cents tacked onto a soda would barely be noticable.

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#66 Head_of_games
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Not a bad idea, seeing how people are so addicted to it.
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it is sad to read that. they should start to tax other things then soda. i think they should start taxing things like cigarette smoking and other addicting products.
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#68 carrot-cake
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="hedden93"]

this crap is getting ridiculous

TBoogy

Eventually this will wear on enough folks and we will only have to suffer through one term of this crap and we can go back to being America.

LOL. :) Obama has his next term already in the bag.

Republicans are not going to win again for at least 3 more elections. I officially place my bet (and I almostNEVER bet on things I can't control).

The voice of the GOP right now is Rush. Or maybe Chaney. A new leader has to be found and developed before Republicans can hope for a chance. And it is not Palin or that dude from Louisiana.


Oh I hope it isnt Cheney. Last thing America needs is more corporate interest in the government.

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[QUOTE="TBoogy"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Eventually this will wear on enough folks and we will only have to suffer through one term of this crap and we can go back to being America.

carrot-cake

LOL. :) Obama has his next term already in the bag.

Republicans are not going to win again for at least 3 more elections. I officially place my bet (and I almostNEVER bet on things I can't control).

The voice of the GOP right now is Rush. Or maybe Chaney. A new leader has to be found and developed before Republicans can hope for a chance. And it is not Palin or that dude from Louisiana.


Oh I hope it isnt Cheney. Last thing America needs is more corporate interest in the government.

Doesn't matter. If he runs he will lose.

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it is sad to read that. they should start to tax other things then soda. i think they should start taxing things like cigarette smoking and other addicting products. xscott1018

Tobacco is already taxed to the hilt; taxing soda is just the next step in Obama's master plan to eradicate gluttony and idiocy.

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[QUOTE="carrot-cake"]

[QUOTE="TBoogy"] LOL. :) Obama has his next term already in the bag.

Republicans are not going to win again for at least 3 more elections. I officially place my bet (and I almostNEVER bet on things I can't control).

The voice of the GOP right now is Rush. Or maybe Chaney. A new leader has to be found and developed before Republicans can hope for a chance. And it is not Palin or that dude from Louisiana.

TBoogy


Oh I hope it isnt Cheney. Last thing America needs is more corporate interest in the government.

Doesn't matter. If he runs he will lose.


Yeah but if he does get it, then it says alot about the republican party.

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Can you NOT see the communism in this act? I was just as upset when they banned trans fats.

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Well it is not communism, it is authoritarianism, which is one of the key principles of communism.
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Don't think this will pass. It will be highly protested.
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i still don't understand why the heck we voted for this guy...:roll: after college im leaving this country :lol:
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"] Yeah he cut taxes for people who already weren't paying any. -Sun_Tzu-
Uhh, payroll tax? Every working individual pays taxes, in some shape or form...

and those on welfare aren't working now are they? The working people are paying the ones who aren't working for not working, it is F***ed up.

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The voice of the GOP right now is Rush. Or maybe Chaney. A new leader has to be found and developed before Republicans can hope for a chance. And it is not Palin or that dude from Louisiana.

Oh, and the soda tax? Well, other bad-for-you things are taxed. Another 5 cents tacked onto a soda would barely be noticable.

TBoogy
I will take that bet, if things keep getting more and more out of control, Obama will be losing a primary against Hilary. You forget about Huckabee, Romney, and a few other people. It always seems like a party is never going to win after they have lost an election. Also, why should the government take money from you just because something is bad for you. They are trying to control everyone's lives.
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[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="Pirate700"] Yeah he cut taxes for people who already weren't paying any. Jacobistheman

Uhh, payroll tax? Every working individual pays taxes, in some shape or form...

and those on welfare aren't working now are they? The working people are paying the ones who aren't working for not working, it is F***ed up.

His point was this: People on welfare usually don't make enough money to have to file. So they are not getting "tax cuts".

What you are arguing is the very exsistance of welfare, which is a different subject. Although I know to the average Republican it is all grouped together under "I don't want anyone to be helped/supported/whatever with my tax money!".

But the funny thing is, you would pay one way or the other anyway...

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Okay, I don't really mind if they pass it, or if Obama signs it.
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[QUOTE="hedden93"]

this crap is getting ridiculous

Pirate700

Eventually this will wear on enough folks and we will only have to suffer through one term of this crap and we can go back to being America.

Yeah, you just exemplified the main reason why I dislike the Republican Party right now...

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[QUOTE="TBoogy"]

The voice of the GOP right now is Rush. Or maybe Chaney. A new leader has to be found and developed before Republicans can hope for a chance. And it is not Palin or that dude from Louisiana.

Oh, and the soda tax? Well, other bad-for-you things are taxed. Another 5 cents tacked onto a soda would barely be noticable.

Jacobistheman

I will take that bet, if things keep getting more and more out of control, Obama will be losing a primary against Hilary. You forget about Huckabee, Romney, and a few other people. It always seems like a party is never going to win after they have lost an election. Also, why should the government take money from you just because something is bad for you. They are trying to control everyone's lives.

LOL. Hilary is on Obama's cabinet. She is not going to run against him while she is in office. Obama is the incumbent. He will run unopposed I am sure.

As for the tax thing, well technically they are taking it from the manufacturers. If THEY want to turn around and add it into the cost of the product (which of course they would), that's up to them. But the country needs funds from somewhere. I am more concerned that the money I have put into Social Security might not be there for me when I retire than this.

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[QUOTE="Jacobistheman"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] Uhh, payroll tax? Every working individual pays taxes, in some shape or form...TBoogy

and those on welfare aren't working now are they? The working people are paying the ones who aren't working for not working, it is F***ed up.

His point was this: People on welfare usually don't make enough money to have to file. So they are not getting "tax cuts".

What you are arguing is the very exsistance of welfare, which is a different subject. Although I know to the average Republican it is all grouped together under "I don't want anyone to be helped/supported/whatever with my tax money!".

But the funny thing is, you would pay one way or the other anyway...

Well I don't. If I want to help poeple, I will (and do) do it through a charity that doesn't force me to do it.
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="hedden93"]

this crap is getting ridiculous

chessmaster1989

Eventually this will wear on enough folks and we will only have to suffer through one term of this crap and we can go back to being America.

Yeah, you just exemplified the main reason why I dislike the Republican Party right now...

Good point.

When you hear that, do you hear it with an extreme southern drawl like I do?

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What does it mean to be America? How is trying to prevent economic melt down unamerican?
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[QUOTE="xscott1018"]it is sad to read that. they should start to tax other things then soda. i think they should start taxing things like cigarette smoking and other addicting products. spoofnutz

Tobacco is already taxed to the hilt; taxing soda is just the next step in Obama's master plan to eradicate gluttony and idiocy.

I'm so glad I have Obama to set me straight and make me a good altruist. It's like Jesus Christ himself is in the whitehouse. Of course, Jesus Christ gave up his own posessions to others instead of stealing other people's posessions to give to others, but the two are still somewhat similar I guess.
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[QUOTE="TBoogy"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Eventually this will wear on enough folks and we will only have to suffer through one term of this crap and we can go back to being America.

Yeah, you just exemplified the main reason why I dislike the Republican Party right now...

Good point.

When you hear that, do you hear it with an extreme southern drawl like I do?

Tell me about it. Is he actually insinuating that the American economy revolves around free enterprise and the private sector?
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Eventually this will wear on enough folks and we will only have to suffer through one term of this crap and we can go back to being America.

TBoogy

Yeah, you just exemplified the main reason why I dislike the Republican Party right now...

Good point.

When you hear that, do you hear it with an extreme southern drawl like I do?

WTF how does saying that have to do with southerners that really doesn't make any sense what a pathetic attempt.....:roll:

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Eventually this will wear on enough folks and we will only have to suffer through one term of this crap and we can go back to being America.

TBoogy

Yeah, you just exemplified the main reason why I dislike the Republican Party right now...

Good point.

When you hear that, do you hear it with an extreme southern drawl like I do?

ha ha ha - you really think the party they are in makes any difference? ALL politicians are crooks...that is the only reason they went in to politics in the first place in case you had not noticed. There are no longer any statesmen SERVING our nation only politicians fleecing the people for all the money they can take from us.
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[QUOTE="TBoogy"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Yeah, you just exemplified the main reason why I dislike the Republican Party right now...

fidosim

Good point.

When you hear that, do you hear it with an extreme southern drawl like I do?

Tell me about it. Is he actually insinuating that the American economy revolves around free enterprise and the private sector?

Your sarcasm is totally under the radar. Luckily I'm a sarcastic master so I can relate to these things.

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[QUOTE="TBoogy"]

[QUOTE="Jacobistheman"] and those on welfare aren't working now are they? The working people are paying the ones who aren't working for not working, it is F***ed up.

Jacobistheman

His point was this: People on welfare usually don't make enough money to have to file. So they are not getting "tax cuts".

What you are arguing is the very exsistance of welfare, which is a different subject. Although I know to the average Republican it is all grouped together under "I don't want anyone to be helped/supported/whatever with my tax money!".

But the funny thing is, you would pay one way or the other anyway...

Well I don't. If I want to help poeple, I will (and do) do it through a charity that doesn't force me to do it.

That's all fine and dandy, but you are going to pay taxes anyway. NO matter how you complain. So which would you rather have? The money got to the people, or to politicians?

And sometimes you have to look deeply to see that you are really helping yourself. You don't want your tax money going to bailouts I assume? So what if they didnt happen? But guess what...now there are thousands of previously good paying jobs gone. Kids are removed from private schools and put into public ones. With enrollment down, the private schools are forced to increase tuition. If you are a student there, now you are paying $500 dollars more per year. The recently unemployedget behind and forclosed. The value of YOUR house drops 10% because of the foreclosed homes in your area. Unemployment rises and now taxes on the state level have to be raised to offset the burden. And crime goes up because your city has a 10% unemployment rate. More officers needed = MORE tax dollars again!

Which is worse? "Your tax dollars" bailing out the Auto industry, or the scenario I painted if we allowed them to fail?

Heck, just ONE of those things (the value of your house dropping, which just happened to a lot of people in St. Louis) can cost you 20k-40k in a heartbeat.

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[QUOTE="TBoogy"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Yeah, you just exemplified the main reason why I dislike the Republican Party right now...

fidosim

Good point.

When you hear that, do you hear it with an extreme southern drawl like I do?

Tell me about it. Is he actually insinuating that the American economy revolves around free enterprise and the private sector?

Wait, what? To whom are you referring, and what is the context of this post? :?

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#91 TBoogy
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[QUOTE="spoofnutz"]

[QUOTE="xscott1018"]it is sad to read that. they should start to tax other things then soda. i think they should start taxing things like cigarette smoking and other addicting products. fidosim

Tobacco is already taxed to the hilt; taxing soda is just the next step in Obama's master plan to eradicate gluttony and idiocy.

I'm so glad I have Obama to set me straight and make me a good altruist. It's like Jesus Christ himself is in the whitehouse. Of course, Jesus Christ gave up his own posessions to others instead of stealing other people's posessions to give to others, but the two are still somewhat similar I guess.

Well actually, the raise in taxes Obama supports includes him as well.

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#92 fidosim
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="TBoogy"]

Good point.

When you hear that, do you hear it with an extreme southern drawl like I do?

Tell me about it. Is he actually insinuating that the American economy revolves around free enterprise and the private sector?

Wait, what? To whom are you referring, and what is the context of this post? :?

I'm referring to that old tired Republican "me first" philosophy, and Bush/McCain economics.
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[QUOTE="TBoogy"]

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Yeah, you just exemplified the main reason why I dislike the Republican Party right now...

XD4NTESINF3RNOX

Good point.

When you hear that, do you hear it with an extreme southern drawl like I do?

WTF how does saying that have to do with southerners that really doesn't make any sense what a pathetic attempt.....:roll:

Only making note that I usually hear southerners go into the whole "This is Americuh!" thing. I am sure others use the term as well, but southerners is what first comes to my mind.

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It's time to start hording before we get taxed to Hell.

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#95 fidosim
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[QUOTE="TBoogy"]

[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="spoofnutz"]

Tobacco is already taxed to the hilt; taxing soda is just the next step in Obama's master plan to eradicate gluttony and idiocy.

I'm so glad I have Obama to set me straight and make me a good altruist. It's like Jesus Christ himself is in the whitehouse. Of course, Jesus Christ gave up his own posessions to others instead of stealing other people's posessions to give to others, but the two are still somewhat similar I guess.

Well actually, the raise in taxes Obama supports includes him as well.

Indeed. Raising taxes for himself. Such a good altruist.
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#96 XD4NTESINF3RNOX
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[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"]

[QUOTE="TBoogy"]

Good point.

When you hear that, do you hear it with an extreme southern drawl like I do?

TBoogy

WTF how does saying that have to do with southerners that really doesn't make any sense what a pathetic attempt.....:roll:

Only making note that I usually hear southerners go into the whole "This is Americuh!" thing. I am sure others use the term as well, but southerners is what first comes to my mind.

wow you just made yourself look like a complete **** I'm southern and I don't talk like that...God i hate ignorant people such as yourselves.....I would probably have punched you right now...

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#97 chessmaster1989
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="fidosim"] Tell me about it. Is he actually insinuating that the American economy revolves around free enterprise and the private sector? fidosim

Wait, what? To whom are you referring, and what is the context of this post? :?

I'm referring to that old tired Republican "me first" philosophy, and Bush/McCain economics.

Umm, I'm still failing to see the relation of this to the posts you quoted... :?

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It's time to start hording before we get taxed to Hell.

Jackboot343
It's a quarter of a cent. If you bought a 20oz soda at the movies for $3.50 then it would be an astonishing $3.55. Its not the best idea but its not a bad idea, soda is terrible for you.
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#99 fidosim
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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

Wait, what? To whom are you referring, and what is the context of this post? :?

I'm referring to that old tired Republican "me first" philosophy, and Bush/McCain economics.

Umm, I'm still failing to see the relation of this to the posts you quoted... :?

Sorry, I get carried away when I roleplay. :D Anyway, my post was referring to what you see as the problem with the Republican Party. You were annoyed with Pirate saying we can "go back to being America" because you don't feel that Obama's economics are unamerican. I was pointing out that the individualist, profit-seeking spirit of American businesses is largely responsible for America's economics success.
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It's time to start hording before we get taxed to Hell.

Jackboot343


Oh no! An extra few cents for a coke!? Whatever shall we all do!?
Give me a break, stop drinking the stuff its bad for you anyway. Start drinking WATER. Or TEA.