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#51 theone86
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[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="Bane_09"]

Really? In my high school and now college almost everyone is conservative. I know maybe 2 other people around my age(21) that aren't hardcore conservatives

But yes it is silly that people are taking a 15 year old kid this seriously

Storm_Marine

Plenty of jaded conservatives in this thread. "There are people who don't agree with me? They must be stupid, teenaged, stoned, hipster douchebags, that's the only way to explain it."

Did you look at a picture of the guy? He screams hipster or hipster wannabe. But go on, defend your new comrade.

Maybe you weren't paying attention, I said I don't want this guy. All he ever did was parrot a bunch of talking points and get invited to speak at a national convention for it. Regardless, how he dresses has little impact on how I feel about his politics.

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#52 Nibroc420
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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Bane_09"]

You do come across as being extremely enraged

Bane_09

He's responding to your idiotic comments. and to the fact that this thread is nothing but a "hate conservatives" thread. The kid was 13, and was conservative, now he's a hipster who's changed his mind. Maybe in 10 years when he sees that giving everyone free money when your country is in debt isn't the best solution. Throwing money at a problem doesn't fix the solution. However people using a (now) 17 year old kid's political leanings to make your seem more valid doesn't make a whole lot of sense. "Hey there's this kid who can't even vote yet, and he's a liberal, that must mean liberals are good" :roll: Upon Spartan pointing that out the flawed logic in that, it seems many liberals are butthurt, and twisting it as though it's some sort of insult. It's not an insult, it just doesn't make sense to use a 17 year-old kid's opinion to back up your position. And there's no sense in being all insecure and complaining when people point that out.

What? Did you even read my comments? I agreed with him that it's stupid to listen to a kid about politics. And in no way have I hated on conservatives in this thread

:roll: Just admit it, dont make me waste my time digging through the thread.
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#53 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="Bane_09"]

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"] He's responding to your idiotic comments. and to the fact that this thread is nothing but a "hate conservatives" thread. The kid was 13, and was conservative, now he's a hipster who's changed his mind. Maybe in 10 years when he sees that giving everyone free money when your country is in debt isn't the best solution. Throwing money at a problem doesn't fix the solution. However people using a (now) 17 year old kid's political leanings to make your seem more valid doesn't make a whole lot of sense. "Hey there's this kid who can't even vote yet, and he's a liberal, that must mean liberals are good" :roll: Upon Spartan pointing that out the flawed logic in that, it seems many liberals are butthurt, and twisting it as though it's some sort of insult. It's not an insult, it just doesn't make sense to use a 17 year-old kid's opinion to back up your position. And there's no sense in being all insecure and complaining when people point that out.Nibroc420

What? Did you even read my comments? I agreed with him that it's stupid to listen to a kid about politics. And in no way have I hated on conservatives in this thread

:roll: Just admit it, dont make me waste my time digging through the thread.

Now thatwould be some dedicated trolling.

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#54 Bane_09
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:roll: Just admit it, dont make me waste my time digging through the thread.Nibroc420

Is this some kind of joke that I'm not getting? This is all I said to him. I don't think you read any of the thread

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

Teens and young adults are usually liberal?! Wow! What are you going to tell me next, the Earth is round!

Those teens and young adults are so mature! They know infinitely more about the world than everyone else.

Bane_09

Really? In my high school and now college almost everyone is conservative. I know maybe 2 other people around my age(21) that aren't hardcore conservatives

But yes it is silly that people are taking a 15 year old kid this seriously

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#55 mattisgod01
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why the hell would i care to hear the political ramblings of a thirteen year old anyway? I highly doubt he has any great insight into anything other then the regurgitation of others. Politics needs to be experienced and you need to be older then 13 to have experienced enough of it to gain any relevant opinion.

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#56 whipassmt
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[QUOTE="Bane_09"]

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

Looks like you're the only one who's "butthurt". I simply stated a fact, that teens and young adults tend to be more liberal, and then you twist it into some insecurity about your political ideology. Bravo dumbass, bravo. Teens and young adults aren't the most mature and experienced individuals on the planet, so using their beliefs to somehow reinforce yours seems a bit idiotic, whatever side of the political spectrum they fall on, no? This is exactly what the TC did.

I guess that somehow means I'm "butthurt". Good to know you're as dumb and immature as the TC though.

Nibroc420

You do come across as being extremely enraged

He's responding to your idiotic comments. and to the fact that this thread is nothing but a "hate conservatives" thread. The kid was 13, and was conservative, now he's a hipster who's changed his mind. Maybe in 10 years when he sees that giving everyone free money when your country is in debt isn't the best solution. Throwing money at a problem doesn't fix the solution.

Hey not only can Obama sing Al Greene Song's he can also sing about his fiscal policy.

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13 and wrote a book on conservatism?HoolaHoopMan

How hard can it be? Reaganomics = the one solution for everything and everyone, Jesus rocks, Israel rocks, abortion is bad, evolution is evil, homosexuality makes baby Jesus cry, them arabs are terrorists and evildoers.

It practically writes itself.

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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]13 and wrote a book on conservatism?LordQuorthon

How hard can it be? Reaganomics = the one solution for everything and everyone, Jesus rocks, Israel rocks, abortion is bad, evolution is evil, homosexuality makes baby Jesus cry, them arabs are terrorists and evildoers.

It practically writes itself.

I'm not conservative and i think Jesus rocks pretty hard myself.

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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]13 and wrote a book on conservatism?LordQuorthon

How hard can it be? Reaganomics = the one solution for everything and everyone, Jesus rocks, Israel rocks, abortion is bad, evolution is evil, homosexuality makes baby Jesus cry, them arabs are terrorists and evildoers.

It practically writes itself.

but try stretching that out to an entire book.
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#60 Novotine
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[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

Teens and young adults are usually liberal?! Wow! What are you going to tell me next, the Earth is round!

Those teens and young adults are so mature! They know infinitely more about the world than everyone else.

Bane_09

Really? In my high school and now college almost everyone is conservative. I know maybe 2 other people around my age(21) that aren't hardcore conservatives

But yes it is silly that people are taking a 15 year old kid this seriously

it varies i think. almost everyone I know is liberal (i'm 20), I live in the Chicagoland area though.
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#61 Bane_09
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[QUOTE="Bane_09"]

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

Teens and young adults are usually liberal?! Wow! What are you going to tell me next, the Earth is round!

Those teens and young adults are so mature! They know infinitely more about the world than everyone else.

Novotine

Really? In my high school and now college almost everyone is conservative. I know maybe 2 other people around my age(21) that aren't hardcore conservatives

But yes it is silly that people are taking a 15 year old kid this seriously

it varies i think. almost everyone I know is liberal (i'm 20), I live in the Chicagoland area though.

Yup it varies for sure. People like to generalize too much, I live in South Dakota which is a pretty red state

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#62 whipassmt
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[QUOTE="Bane_09"]

[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

Teens and young adults are usually liberal?! Wow! What are you going to tell me next, the Earth is round!

Those teens and young adults are so mature! They know infinitely more about the world than everyone else.

Novotine

Really? In my high school and now college almost everyone is conservative. I know maybe 2 other people around my age(21) that aren't hardcore conservatives

But yes it is silly that people are taking a 15 year old kid this seriously

it varies i think. almost everyone I know is liberal (i'm 20), I live in the Chicagoland area though.

It's kind of weird I live in an area that always votes for Democrats and is supposed to be liberal but most people I know are probably more conservative.

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#63 mattisgod01
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[QUOTE="LordQuorthon"]

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]13 and wrote a book on conservatism?Serraph105

How hard can it be? Reaganomics = the one solution for everything and everyone, Jesus rocks, Israel rocks, abortion is bad, evolution is evil, homosexuality makes baby Jesus cry, them arabs are terrorists and evildoers.

It practically writes itself.

but try stretching that out to an entire book.

It's easy enough to rant on for an entire book if you don't require facts, logic, consistency or intelligence. Just listen to Rush Limbaugh, You'd think it would be hard doing radio show after radio show with absolutely nothing to say but he does.

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#64 Communist_Soul
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[QUOTE="Bane_09"]

You can read some of his book on amazon, I only read a few pages but it seemed pretty bad

Storm_Marine

I'm sure Defining Communism will be better.

It's in the works. If you pre-order now I will sign your copy!

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#65 Brosephus_Rex
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Eh, nobody gives a fvck.

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#66 UCF_Knight
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I feel any person that flat out hates one side or the other is fairly ignorant. It's not like either party has accomplished much in recent history, and I've never understood why social progressiveness and fiscal responsibility has to be mutually exclusive. Unfortunately so much goes into siding with a single party for campaign contributions, a lot of non-partisanship goes right out the window, as well as productivity. Hell, Obama has spent so much time fundraising these past couple months I'm not sure he's had time to eat a proper meal, much less play a constructive role in our national government. As long as we have two extremes focused around staying in office and fending off the other, I doubt we'll see any significant change for the better any time soon. I imagine we'll ride this 'on the brink of something' line for a quite some time while we go through our medial ups and downs.
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#67 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

As a conservative or liberal, this kid sound like an arrogant d-bag.

whipassmt

Is it just me or are the people who are most liberal and most conservative the ones that are most arrogant, while the centrists are a bit more modest.

I would agree, and it's not just on SW.

I'll admit that some arrogant conservatives on this forum get under my skin and turn me into an arrogant, pissy liberal. On occaision. I'd rather try to be moderate.

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#68 Brosephus_Rex
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[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

As a conservative or liberal, this kid sound like an arrogant d-bag.

jimkabrhel

Is it just me or are the people who are most liberal and most conservative the ones that are most arrogant, while the centrists are a bit more modest.

I would agree, and it's not just on SW.

I'll admit that some arrogant conservatives on this forum get under my skin and turn me into an arrogant, pissy liberal. On occaision. I'd rather try to be moderate.

TBH, you really aren't one of the p!ssy libs.

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I thought people tend to be more liberal when they are young and become more conservative when they age.

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#70 Brosephus_Rex
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I thought people tend to be more liberal when they are young and become more conservative when they age.

sonicare

Perhaps a little, but not much more so.

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#71 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="whipassmt"] Is it just me or are the people who are most liberal and most conservative the ones that are most arrogant, while the centrists are a bit more modest.

Brosephus_Rex

I would agree, and it's not just on SW.

I'll admit that some arrogant conservatives on this forum get under my skin and turn me into an arrogant, pissy liberal. On occaision. I'd rather try to be moderate.

TBH, you really aren't one of the p!ssy libs.

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#72 BMD004
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People change their political philosophies all the time... both smart and dumb people. I've always been conservative economically, but I have shifted socially over time. I'm more liberal on certain social issues than I used to be. I used to be more war-hawkish.

As I become older and experience different areas of life, you see things from a different perspective and see where the "other side" is coming from.

For example... some people have never been poor and had some kind of medical condition. Some people wouldn't know what that would be like. Maybe if they were in that position, they would either change their stance on healthcare, or at least they'd be sympathetic and see where these people are coming from.

It's one thing to talk about people like statistics on a piece of paper.. it's easy to say you know that it's hard for them, but it's a completely different story if you'd have to live through a certain situation and truly understand what they are going through.

So as people go through life, they have more experiences and sometimes shift their positions.

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#73 The-Apostle
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Eh... He was probably brainwashed by his educators. >_>
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#74 Teenaged
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Eh... He was probably brainwashed by his educators. >_>The-Apostle
Imagine if you tried to sound stupid.

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#75 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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LOL hilarious

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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"]Eh... He was probably brainwashed by his educators. >_>Teenaged

Imagine if you tried to sound stupid.

I don't think it could possibly get worse, actually.

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#77 scoots9
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So he's gone from a horrible social authoritarian to a horrible economic authoritarian. Nice.

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#78 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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Eh... He was probably brainwashed by his educators. >_>The-Apostle

Yes because all of us professors have liberal agendas.:roll:

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#79 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Yawn.

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#80 GreySeal9
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13 and wrote a book on conservatism? Christ....honestly who gives a shlt what some 13/15 year old thinks, regardless of his political leaning. HoolaHoopMan

^This.

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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"]Eh... He was probably brainwashed by his educators. >_>jimkabrhel

Yes because all of us professors have liberal agendas.:roll:

IIRC, you chemistry profs p. much shove cultural marxism down our throats.

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#82 Ace6301
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I for one am glad 13 year olds aren't generally considered political experts.
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#83 Jebus213
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I live in South DakotaBane_09
Well that pretty much explains it....
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[QUOTE="The-Apostle"]Eh... He was probably brainwashed by his educators. >_>jimkabrhel

Yes because all of us professors have liberal agendas.:roll:

Actually it's more the system does. >_>
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#85 chessmaster1989
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Who cares. I don't know why people cared about this kid to begin with.
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#86 LJS9502_basic
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Who cares? This isn't even thread worthy......except to troll the conservatives of OT I suppose.
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#87 WrightTime
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Someone's political ideology has evolved. Clearly this means his old ideologies were infantile and without merit.
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#88 RadecSupreme
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I was a conservative when I was a kid too but then I grew up.pspdseagle

Same

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#89 Mcspanky37
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:lol: I remember this kid being talked about on Bill Maher
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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="The-Apostle"]Eh... He was probably brainwashed by his educators. >_>Brosephus_Rex

Yes because all of us professors have liberal agendas.:roll:

IIRC, you chemistry profs p. much shove cultural marxism down our throats.

Electrons, man. All negative all the time. And red phosphorous, it completely communist.
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#91 Easports48
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Smart Teen. Great job...

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#92 Easports48
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Smart Teen. Great job...

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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="LordQuorthon"]

How hard can it be? Reaganomics = the one solution for everything and everyone, Jesus rocks, Israel rocks, abortion is bad, evolution is evil, homosexuality makes baby Jesus cry, them arabs are terrorists and evildoers.

It practically writes itself.

mattisgod01

but try stretching that out to an entire book.

It's easy enough to rant on for an entire book if you don't require facts, logic, consistency or intelligence. Just listen to Rush Limbaugh, You'd think it would be hard doing radio show after radio show with absolutely nothing to say but he does.

Actually, that describes his two books pretty well also.
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="LordQuorthon"]

How hard can it be? Reaganomics = the one solution for everything and everyone, Jesus rocks, Israel rocks, abortion is bad, evolution is evil, homosexuality makes baby Jesus cry, them arabs are terrorists and evildoers.

It practically writes itself.

mattisgod01

but try stretching that out to an entire book.

It's easy enough to rant on for an entire book if you don't require facts, logic, consistency or intelligence. Just listen to Rush Limbaugh, You'd think it would be hard doing radio show after radio show with absolutely nothing to say but he does.

My bad, you're right. I was doing exactly that last night and it was easy as crap.
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#95 flazzle
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holy crap. ever see this kid talk? you liberals can have him!

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#96 kraychik
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It was pathetic for CPAC to present this kid as some sort of thought-leader for conservatism. A thirteen-year-old writing a book? Please, it's all smoke and mirrors. A few folks make a killing off of this joke. It's a good thing this kid has been excised from conservatism. Perhaps when he really grows up, he'll return.

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#97 lo_Pine
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Left and Right?

Each are so screwed up they make them look like a mirror to one another. Untill the parties get coordinated and ideologically situatiated; I am not pertaining to either one of them.

Guess you could call me an anarchist because I don't agree with today's flow of money to power. I hate it all.

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#98 Serraph105
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It was pathetic for CPAC to present this kid as some sort of thought-leader for conservatism. A thirteen-year-old writing a book? Please, it's all smoke and mirrors. A few folks make a killing off of this joke. It's a good thing this kid has been excised from conservatism. Perhaps when he really grows up, he'll return.

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Maybe when you grow up a little you will do what he did. ;)
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#99 CKYguy25
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i wonder how many books that would sell?

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[QUOTE="kraychik"]

It was pathetic for CPAC to present this kid as some sort of thought-leader for conservatism. A thirteen-year-old writing a book? Please, it's all smoke and mirrors. A few folks make a killing off of this joke. It's a good thing this kid has been excised from conservatism. Perhaps when he really grows up, he'll return.

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Maybe when you grow up a little you will do what he did. ;)

Maybe when you get a job and pay taxes you'll come to my side Serraph.