Conservative teen author is now a liberal.

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#101 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="kraychik"]

It was pathetic for CPAC to present this kid as some sort of thought-leader for conservatism. A thirteen-year-old writing a book? Please, it's all smoke and mirrors. A few folks make a killing off of this joke. It's a good thing this kid has been excised from conservatism. Perhaps when he really grows up, he'll return.

Storm_Marine

Maybe when you grow up a little you will do what he did. ;)

Maybe when you get a job and pay taxes you'll come to my side Serraph.

So having a job and paying taxes requires you to be on one side of the discussion? That's news to me.

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#102 deactivated-598fc45371265
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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="Serraph105"] Maybe when you grow up a little you will do what he did. ;)jimkabrhel

Maybe when you get a job and pay taxes you'll come to my side Serraph.

So having a job and paying taxes requires you to be on one side of the discussion? That's news to me.

It gives you a certain appreciation for certain things.

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#103 kingkong0124
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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Maybe when you get a job and pay taxes you'll come to my side Serraph.

Storm_Marine

So having a job and paying taxes requires you to be on one side of the discussion? That's news to me.

It gives you a certain appreciation for certain things.

This is true.. especially if you're a socialist or communist. You don't really understand the value of money until you hold a real job.
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#105 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="Serraph105"] Maybe when you grow up a little you will do what he did. ;)jimkabrhel

Maybe when you get a job and pay taxes you'll come to my side Serraph.

So having a job and paying taxes requires you to be on one side of the discussion? That's news to me.

I have had several jobs in my life, and thus have the perspective you believe that I need. What I have come to realize however is that I would not be able to obtain those jobs without public education and I wouldn't be able to get to those jobs if not for the roads that tax dollars went to build. Heck my neighborhood wouldn't be nearly as safe it were not police officers. So despite having the perspective you say I need to be on your side I'm also aware that I couldn't get there if not for paying taxes.

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#106 deactivated-59d151f079814
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These things are so stupid.. Who cares.. Just because a person decided to switch "sides" as it were.. It doesn't give any more credit to the said side..
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#107 ShadowMoses900
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What a stupid thread by a stupid TC who makes stupid generalisations about people. I think the TC is a kid himself who lives in a small world and thinks the word "conservative" = the devil. Stop listening to Rosie O' Donnel lol.

Peoples views change over time, I was pretty liberal when I was younger, then I went to being a conservative, then later a libertarian, and now I don't subscribe to any political idealogy but I suppose you could say I'm moderately conservative or center-right, but I don't like lables.

I have met intelligent and good liberals and stupid and bad liberals, I have met intelligent and good conservatives and stupid and bad conservatives. People are too diverse and the philosphies are not inherently "bad" nor are liberals or conservatives inherently "bad".

I think only the extreamists are the bad ones, on both sides.

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#108 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Maybe when you get a job and pay taxes you'll come to my side Serraph.

Serraph105

So having a job and paying taxes requires you to be on one side of the discussion? That's news to me.

I have had several jobs in my life, and thus have the perspective you believe that I need. What I have come to realize however is that I would not be able to obtain those jobs without public education and I wouldn't be able to get to those jobs if not for the roads that tax dollars went to build. Heck my neighborhood wouldn't be nearly as safe it were not police officers. So despite having the perspective you say I need to be on your side I'm also aware that I couldn't get there if not for paying taxes.

It's a bit of a balancing act, on the one hand you need social programs, any good stable society does. That's why people who say "socialism i evil" are full of sh!t, there is socialism in our society and it's nesseccary. However capitilism is needed as well, it creates wealth and allows people to pursue there dream, as well as create competition which drives our society.

The tax issue is hard to manage, but it's nesseccary. If taxes are too low the social programs get cut and people can end up without programs they need to rely on. If taxes get too high however businesses can't higher people or expand, and thus have to close their doors to employees and they raise their prices, which makes infaltion go up.

It's all a balancing act, like I said. You can't have one without that other. Capitilism + Socialism = Stable Soceity.

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#109 ad1x2
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It's pretty obvious what happened with this kid. He started out as a Conservative, discovered girls, realized most of the girls he wanted to screw were Liberal, and he changed his political leanings to help get him some Liberal muffins. He will probably be a Conservative again when he's in his 30s.
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#110 surrealnumber5
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if the kid is still buying into the right left paradigm he has a hell of a lot more growing up to do.
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#111 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"]

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

So having a job and paying taxes requires you to be on one side of the discussion? That's news to me.

ShadowMoses900

I have had several jobs in my life, and thus have the perspective you believe that I need. What I have come to realize however is that I would not be able to obtain those jobs without public education and I wouldn't be able to get to those jobs if not for the roads that tax dollars went to build. Heck my neighborhood wouldn't be nearly as safe it were not police officers. So despite having the perspective you say I need to be on your side I'm also aware that I couldn't get there if not for paying taxes.

It's a bit of a balancing act, on the one hand you need social programs, any good stable society does. That's why people who say "socialism i evil" are full of sh!t, there is socialism in our society and it's nesseccary. However capitilism is needed as well, it creates wealth and allows people to pursue there dream, as well as create competition which drives our society.

The tax issue is hard to manage, but it's nesseccary. If taxes are too low the social programs get cut and people can end up without programs they need to rely on. If taxes get too high however businesses can't higher people or expand, and thus have to close their doors to employees and they raise their prices, which makes infaltion go up.

It's all a balancing act, like I said. You can't have one without that other. Capitilism + Socialism = Stable Soceity.

I agree completely. Taxes are just like everything in life, you got to have balance.
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#112 LOXO7
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I agree completely. Taxes are just like everything in life, you got to have balance. Serraph105
But requiring everyone to have health insurance or tax them is not such a balance.

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#113 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"] I agree completely. Taxes are just like everything in life, you got to have balance. LOXO7

But requiring everyone to have health insurance or tax them is not such a balance.

how about we just refuse to pay for people who obtain healthcare without health insurance?
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#114 surrealnumber5
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

[QUOTE="Serraph105"] I agree completely. Taxes are just like everything in life, you got to have balance. Serraph105

But requiring everyone to have health insurance or tax them is not such a balance.

how about we just refuse to pay for people who obtain healthcare without health insurance?

i am going to refuse to pay that portion of my taxes, as that bill deemed law was originated in the Senate and not the House, so by default it is void, i will even attach a typed comment to go with my taxes. the IRS rarely goes after those who stand on legal ground, some things they just dont want the courts to weigh in on. :)
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#115 KamuiFei
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I don't want him on our side, maybe he can go throw in with the Ron Paul crowd.

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Us sane RP supporters don't want him either.

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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Maybe when you get a job and pay taxes you'll come to my side Serraph.

Storm_Marine

So having a job and paying taxes requires you to be on one side of the discussion? That's news to me.

It gives you a certain appreciation for certain things.

I have a job and pay taxes, and I'm pretty sure I have different political beliefs than you.

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#117 kingkong0124
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It's pretty obvious what happened with this kid. He started out as a Conservative, discovered girls, realized most of the girls he wanted to screw were Liberal, and he changed his political leanings to help get him some Liberal muffins. He will probably be a Conservative again when he's in his 30s.ad1x2
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#118 kingkong0124
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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

So having a job and paying taxes requires you to be on one side of the discussion? That's news to me.

jimkabrhel

It gives you a certain appreciation for certain things.

I have a job and pay taxes, and I'm pretty sure I have different political beliefs than you.

you're also a professor... professors are generally known to have liberal leanings
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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

It gives you a certain appreciation for certain things.

kingkong0124

I have a job and pay taxes, and I'm pretty sure I have different political beliefs than you.

you're also a professor... professors are generally known to have liberal leanings

That doesn't mean I proselytize liberal teachings in class and try to indoctrinate my students. And based on my experience, there are quite a few conservative instructors out there.

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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Maybe when you get a job and pay taxes you'll come to my side Serraph.

Serraph105

So having a job and paying taxes requires you to be on one side of the discussion? That's news to me.

I have had several jobs in my life, and thus have the perspective you believe that I need. What I have come to realize however is that I would not be able to obtain those jobs without public education and I wouldn't be able to get to those jobs if not for the roads that tax dollars went to build. Heck my neighborhood wouldn't be nearly as safe it were not police officers. So despite having the perspective you say I need to be on your side I'm also aware that I couldn't get there if not for paying taxes.

Oh, the ol' "roads, police officers, and firemen" rhetoric.

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#121 Serraph105
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"]

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

So having a job and paying taxes requires you to be on one side of the discussion? That's news to me.

SpartanMSU

I have had several jobs in my life, and thus have the perspective you believe that I need. What I have come to realize however is that I would not be able to obtain those jobs without public education and I wouldn't be able to get to those jobs if not for the roads that tax dollars went to build. Heck my neighborhood wouldn't be nearly as safe it were not police officers. So despite having the perspective you say I need to be on your side I'm also aware that I couldn't get there if not for paying taxes.

Oh, the ol' "roads, police officers, and firemen" rhetoric.

are....are you serious right now?
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[QUOTE="Serraph105"] I agree completely. Taxes are just like everything in life, you got to have balance. LOXO7

But requiring everyone to have health insurance or tax them is not such a balance.

Its quite simple you can argue one of two things.. You can either argue for health insurance for all or you can start argue that doctors and hospitals should not lift a finger for the uninsured who are dieing... You will lose the later arguement.. As it stands we already paying for the uninsured, and I am sorry but if your uninsured but can afford it.. You deserve to get taxed, your idiocy in thinking nothing can happen will end up costing the rest of us money when that something happens..

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#123 LordQuorthon
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you're also a professor... professors are generally known to have liberal leaningskingkong0124

Because of all the book learning?