Creation: Should it be taught in schools?

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#651 dainjah1010
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[QUOTE="Decessus"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

No.

Silver_Dragon17

Why, in your opinion then, do you think that 95%+ of scientists support the theory of evolution?

Because evolution is all that is taught, which is another reason why creation should be taught in schools.

And that percentage is over-exaggerated.

You can't just try to ram-rod pseudoscience into classes because a group of misguided people want to press their agenda. Homeopathy is a popular junk science than many would argue has scientific value, should we teach that and other bogus alternitive medicines in school too?

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#652 CptJSparrow
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Those quotes by Hawking were very nicely out of context.:roll:
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#653 Decessus
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I've heard about this thing called the ubiquitous gene that is proof that we share a common ancestor somewhere. coulden't find it on wikipedia353535355353535

Yes. Technically it's called a ubiquitous protein, I made a mistake earlier when I was referring to them. It's not major though since your genes are what determine the proteins that get produced.

Anyway, the structure of a protein determines its function. It's kind of like a pair of scissors. The function of a pair of scissors to cut things is determined by its structure of two blades hinged together at a pivot point.

To kind of make this short, Cytochrome C is one of these ubiquitous proteins that are found in all living organisms. There are over 10^93 different amino acid (the basic unit of a protein) sequences that make up this protein. So, there is no reason other than heredity that two organisms should share the same amino acid sequence. After all, the number 10^93 is greater than the number of atoms in the entire universe. However, when we compare our genome with the genome of a chimpanzee, we find that the sequence is exactly the same. When we compare our genome to that of other mammals, the most we find is only about 10 amino acids different. This is expected since we split from other mammals much further back in the past.

If you want more details, read this.

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#655 LedZeppelin1977
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why teach kids fairy tales
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#656 353535355353535
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[QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="Decessus"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

No.

CptJSparrow

Why, in your opinion then, do you think that 95%+ of scientists support the theory of evolution?

Because evolution is all that is taught, which is another reason why creation should be taught in schools.

And that percentage is over-exaggerated.

hey, that's what the gallup poll said. and that's not the reasoncreationism isn't prevalent in the scientific community. the reason it is not prevalent throughout the scientific community is because it is simply unscientific

silver dragon, can you give us one piece of evidense that points towards creation? one piece is all I ask for

  1. Evidence for God from Cosmology
  2. The Greatest Discovery (COBE, 1992)
  3. Relativity vs. The Newtonian Universe
  4. General Relativity - Einstein Discovers God
  5. Origins of the Big Bang Theory
  6. Hot Big Bang Model
  7. Cosmic Background Explorer (COBE)
  8. COBE DMR
  9. Alternate Models
  10. Infinite/eternal Universe Problems
  11. Steady State Universe
  12. Oscillating universe
  13. The Universe as an Engine
  14. The Hartle-Hawking Model
  15. Problems in Quantum Cosmology
  16. Implications of Big Bang
  17. Objections to the Big Bang
  18. Evidence for God's Existence from Design
  19. New Watchmaker Argument
  20. A "Just Right" Universe
  21. A "Just Right" Galaxy
  22. More Watchmaker Arguments

I have to go.

care to summarize it?

It doesn't explain anything.

I didn't have time to read all the text, just the slides.

dont get me wrong,I definitely believe in God, I just dont buy the whole universecreated in 7 days thing.

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#657 solidsnakeEx3
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[QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="Decessus"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

No.

CptJSparrow

Why, in your opinion then, do you think that 95%+ of scientists support the theory of evolution?

Because evolution is all that is taught, which is another reason why creation should be taught in schools.

And that percentage is over-exaggerated.

hey, that's what the gallup poll said. and that's not the reasoncreationism isn't prevalent in the scientific community. the reason it is not prevalent throughout the scientific community is because it is simply unscientific

silver dragon, can you give us one piece of evidense that points towards creation? one piece is all I ask for

  1. Evidence for God from Cosmology
  2. The Greatest Discovery (COBE, 1992)
  3. Relativity vs. The Newtonian Universe
  4. General Relativity - Einstein Discovers God
  5. Origins of the Big Bang Theory
  6. Hot Big Bang Model
  7. Cosmic Background Explorer (COBE)
  8. COBE DMR
  9. Alternate Models
  10. Infinite/eternal Universe Problems
  11. Steady State Universe
  12. Oscillating universe
  13. The Universe as an Engine
  14. The Hartle-Hawking Model
  15. Problems in Quantum Cosmology
  16. Implications of Big Bang
  17. Objections to the Big Bang
  18. Evidence for God's Existence from Design
  19. New Watchmaker Argument
  20. A "Just Right" Universe
  21. A "Just Right" Galaxy
  22. More Watchmaker Arguments

I have to go.

care to summarize it?

It doesn't explain anything.

Basically it makes poor assumptions, including that Einstein and Hawking were avoiding the existence of God. None of this addresses the Earth really.

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#658 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="Decessus"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

No.

353535355353535

Why, in your opinion then, do you think that 95%+ of scientists support the theory of evolution?

Because evolution is all that is taught, which is another reason why creation should be taught in schools.

And that percentage is over-exaggerated.

hey, that's what the gallup poll said. and that's not the reasoncreationism isn't prevalent in the scientific community. the reason it is not prevalent throughout the scientific community is because it is simply unscientific

silver dragon, can you give us one piece of evidense that points towards creation? one piece is all I ask for

  1. Evidence for God from Cosmology
  2. The Greatest Discovery (COBE, 1992)
  3. Relativity vs. The Newtonian Universe
  4. General Relativity - Einstein Discovers God
  5. Origins of the Big Bang Theory
  6. Hot Big Bang Model
  7. Cosmic Background Explorer (COBE)
  8. COBE DMR
  9. Alternate Models
  10. Infinite/eternal Universe Problems
  11. Steady State Universe
  12. Oscillating universe
  13. The Universe as an Engine
  14. The Hartle-Hawking Model
  15. Problems in Quantum Cosmology
  16. Implications of Big Bang
  17. Objections to the Big Bang
  18. Evidence for God's Existence from Design
  19. New Watchmaker Argument
  20. A "Just Right" Universe
  21. A "Just Right" Galaxy
  22. More Watchmaker Arguments

I have to go.

care to summarize it?

Don't even bother.. He always links a completely incrediable site, that is immensely bias that matchs his views..

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#659 353535355353535
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why teach kids fairy talesLedZeppelin1977
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#660 Decessus
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Because evolution is all that is taught, which is another reason why creation should be taught in schools.

And that percentage is over-exaggerated.

Silver_Dragon17

That isn't really a satisfactory answer. After all, evolution hasn't always been taught in school.

Why do you think evolution is taught so much now, when before it wasn't?

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#661 353535355353535
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[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

Because evolution is all that is taught, which is another reason why creation should be taught in schools.

And that percentage is over-exaggerated.

Decessus

That isn't really a satisfactory answer. After all, evolution hasn't always been taught in school.

Why do you think evolution is taught so much now, when before it wasn't?

because satan has taken control of our public school system
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#662 Atrus
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I stopped when you said the tailbone is vestigial. . . .try falling down, or even sitting down, without one and you won't say that.

Silver_Dragon17

A vestigial part does not mean useless. That seems to be a mistake on your part, and likely on the part of any Creationist equating it with useless.

A vestigial trait is one that can still be usefull in its current form even if a transitory feature or it may simply be inactive/non-functioning. It's like the silly argument of "what good is half an eye". A vestigial eye would at that point simply be an eye, and would be transitory toward a better or poorer functioning eye depending on the environment the overall organism is adapting to.