Dear Mods, this long derailed crazy thread needs a lock please :) Thank you

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="redstorm72"]

Yeah, and the U.S. unemployment rate is at 9.8%. I was more getting at that the U.S. isn't "exceptional", it has just as many problems as many other nations.

redstorm72

Yeah, I should have explained a bit better in my initial post. I just get tired of hearing from some people how America is the promised land of awesomeness and perfection. The U.S. is a great country, but it is by no means perfect. All nations can be improved.

[spoiler] I wouldn't mind Canada... [/spoiler]

Romania? Heh...too funny I figured you were at least from a good place like the UK or Canada based on your smack. I guess I too be pissed as hell at those evil Americans too if I from Romania.darktx2005

Heh... I'm from Romania too and I work at an American firm.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="redstorm72"]

Yeah, and the U.S. unemployment rate is at 9.8%. I was more getting at that the U.S. isn't "exceptional", it has just as many problems as many other nations.

redstorm72

Yeah, I should have explained a bit better in my initial post. I just get tired of hearing from some people how America is the promised land of awesomeness and perfection. The U.S. is a great country, but it is by no means perfect. All nations can be improved.

Wow under arrest for not wearing a condom did I read that right ??

[QUOTE="redstorm72"]

[QUOTE="darktx2005"] You aren't an American I assume, so you wouldn't understand the concept of American exceptionalism, freedom and liberty.darktx2005

I can't help but laugh at this. You can't honestly be that arrogant can you? I do know what freedom and liberty are as I live in a nation that is just as free, if not more so, than your nation (Canada). And "exceptionalism"? Really? What is so exceptional about the U.S.?

All of Europe says "sup".

[QUOTE="darktx2005"] Romania? Heh...too funny I figured you were at least from a good place like the UK or Canada based on your smack. I guess I too be pissed as hell at those evil Americans too if I from Romania.Baranga

Heh... I'm from Romania too and I work at an American firm.

[QUOTE="SkyWard20"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] Gone. I ask again. How is that relevant to this thread? darktx2005

there are so many countries who are better then the USA, dosent take long to research either.

Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, Finland, Germany, UK, Canada, Switzerland, Norway and Belgium

[QUOTE="darktx2005"][QUOTE="SkyWard20"] Your country looks naked without them. And your sercurity couldn't even prevent that. How does that feel? That's not how we do things in Romania.Half-Way

there are so many countries who are better then the USA, dosent take long to research either.

Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, Finland, Germany, UK, Canada, Switzerland, Norway andBelgium

[QUOTE="redstorm72"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Hey I was just evening up the odds. You did use unemployment as a negative to the US. LJS9502_basic

Yeah, I should have explained a bit better in my initial post. I just get tired of hearing from some people how America is the promised land of awesomeness and perfection. The U.S. is a great country, but it is by no means perfect. All nations can be improved.

You get used to the cold. Think about it this way, it just means more time for skiing and hockey. I love when people from other countries experience their first Canadian winter. On the news there will be a warning like "leaving skin exposed for more than 5 minutes can risk frost bite" and they will freak out while the rest of us put on our touques and walk outside :P

[QUOTE="darktx2005"][QUOTE="SkyWard20"] Your country looks naked without them. And your sercurity couldn't even prevent that. How does that feel? That's not how we do things in Romania.Half-Way

there are so many countries who are better then the USA, dosent take long to research either.

Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, Finland, Germany, UK, Canada, Switzerland, Norway and Belgium

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="darktx2005"] Romania? Heh...too funny I figured you were at least from a good place like the UK or Canada based on your smack. I guess I too be pissed as hell at those evil Americans too if I from Romania.l4dak47

there are so many countries who are better then the USA, dosent take long to research either.

Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, Finland, Germany, UK, Canada, Switzerland, Norway andBelgium

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="darktx2005"] Romania? Heh...too funny I figured you were at least from a good place like the UK or Canada based on your smack. I guess I too be pissed as hell at those evil Americans too if I from Romania.l4dak47

there are so many countries who are better then the USA, dosent take long to research either.

Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, Finland, Germany, UK, Canada, Switzerland, Norway andBelgium

like i said, research ;)

you can either look at theHuman Development Index or by others likeGlobal Peace Index,Gender Equality,Life expectancy ect.

you will be surprised how many times countries like norway and sweden are at the top

[QUOTE="Baranga"]

[QUOTE="darktx2005"] Romania? Heh...too funny I figured you were at least from a good place like the UK or Canada based on your smack. I guess I too be pissed as hell at those evil Americans too if I from Romania.SkyWard20

Heh... I'm from Romania too and I work at an American firm.

Actually I was just trolling:P But I revived the thread by doing it.

What pisses me off about the America bashing more than anything is that if any of countries whose citizens always trash us (Canada, UK etc..) had something bad happen to it (military or a natural disaster), the US would be the first country asked to help. The US would provide that help, even to those allies that we know work with our enemies behind our backs.

Anyways, continue on talking about how horrible of a place this is.

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Half-Way"]

there are so many countries who are better then the USA, dosent take long to research either.

Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, Finland, Germany, UK, Canada, Switzerland, Norway andBelgium

Half-Way

like i said, research ;)

you can either look at theHuman Development Index or by others likeGlobal Peace Index,Gender Equality,Life expectancy ect.

you will be surprised how many times countries like norway and sweden are at the top

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] All subjective, of course. LJS9502_basic

like i said, research ;)

you can either look at theHuman Development Index or by others likeGlobal Peace Index,Gender Equality,Life expectancy ect.

you will be surprised how many times countries like norway and sweden are at the top

What pisses me off about the America bashing more than anything is that if any of countries whose citizens always trash us (Canada, UK etc..) had something bad happen to it (military or a natural disaster), the US would be the first country asked to help. The US would provide that help, even to those allies that we know work with our enemies behind our backs.

Anyways, continue on talking about how horrible of a place this is.

darktx2005

[QUOTE="redstorm72"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Hey I was just evening up the odds. You did use unemployment as a negative to the US. darktx2005

Yeah, I should have explained a bit better in my initial post. I just get tired of hearing from some people how America is the promised land of awesomeness and perfection. The U.S. is a great country, but it is by no means perfect. All nations can be improved.

I understand. One must always defend their nations honour from the many haters in the world. I do love my country and defend it whenever someone bashes it, but I try not to say my country is better than others or put other countries down (but, admittedly, I can forget sometimes).

What pisses me off about the America bashing more than anything is that if any of countries whose citizens always trash us (Canada, UK etc..) had something bad happen to it (military or a natural disaster), the US would be the first country asked to help. The US would provide that help, even to those allies that we know work with our enemies behind our backs.

Anyways, continue on talking about how horrible of a place this is.

darktx2005

[QUOTE="darktx2005"]

What pisses me off about the America bashing more than anything is that if any of countries whose citizens always trash us (Canada, UK etc..) had something bad happen to it (military or a natural disaster), the US would be the first country asked to help. The US would provide that help, even to those allies that we know work with our enemies behind our backs.

Anyways, continue on talking about how horrible of a place this is.

Ace6301

[QUOTE="redstorm72"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Hey I was just evening up the odds. You did use unemployment as a negative to the US. darktx2005

Yeah, I should have explained a bit better in my initial post. I just get tired of hearing from some people how America is the promised land of awesomeness and perfection. The U.S. is a great country, but it is by no means perfect. All nations can be improved.

[QUOTE="darktx2005"]

What pisses me off about the America bashing more than anything is that if any of countries whose citizens always trash us (Canada, UK etc..) had something bad happen to it (military or a natural disaster), the US would be the first country asked to help. The US would provide that help, even to those allies that we know work with our enemies behind our backs.

Anyways, continue on talking about how horrible of a place this is.

l4dak47

[QUOTE="darktx2005"]

What pisses me off about the America bashing more than anything is that if any of countries whose citizens always trash us (Canada, UK etc..) had something bad happen to it (military or a natural disaster), the US would be the first country asked to help. The US would provide that help, even to those allies that we know work with our enemies behind our backs.

Anyways, continue on talking about how horrible of a place this is.

Ace6301

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="darktx2005"]

What pisses me off about the America bashing more than anything is that if any of countries whose citizens always trash us (Canada, UK etc..) had something bad happen to it (military or a natural disaster), the US would be the first country asked to help. The US would provide that help, even to those allies that we know work with our enemies behind our backs.

Anyways, continue on talking about how horrible of a place this is.

l4dak47

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="darktx2005"]

What pisses me off about the America bashing more than anything is that if any of countries whose citizens always trash us (Canada, UK etc..) had something bad happen to it (military or a natural disaster), the US would be the first country asked to help. The US would provide that help, even to those allies that we know work with our enemies behind our backs.

Anyways, continue on talking about how horrible of a place this is.

Ace6301

[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="darktx2005"]

What pisses me off about the America bashing more than anything is that if any of countries whose citizens always trash us (Canada, UK etc..) had something bad happen to it (military or a natural disaster), the US would be the first country asked to help. The US would provide that help, even to those allies that we know work with our enemies behind our backs.

Anyways, continue on talking about how horrible of a place this is.

Ace6301

OMG, this thread... The USA is not perfect. It also is not terrible. I know it's really cool to hate the USA these days, and while I do recognize many of its flaws, there are still plenty of good thigns about the USA. It's not a black and white issue ("all good" or "all bad"). Every country has its share of flaws. No country is exempt from that. I like living in the USA. There are lots of good things about the USA. I am not afraid to recognize its flaws either, though. There are a lot of things I also don't like about it, and I disagree with some of its laws and its government a lot of the time. However, my everyday life is rather high-quality. I have no complaints about that. A lot of good things and a lot of bad things have come out of the USA. The same can be said for any other country, even the so-called 'better' countries (UK, Canada, Norway, Belgium, etc.) proclaimed by another poster previously. People who relentlessly hate on the USA are tiresome. People who relentlessly praise and defend the USA out of pure blind patriotism are tiresome. Take some goddamn middle ground, please.t3hrubikscube

But that would make this thread boring :(

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="darktx2005"]

What pisses me off about the America bashing more than anything is that if any of countries whose citizens always trash us (Canada, UK etc..) had something bad happen to it (military or a natural disaster), the US would be the first country asked to help. The US would provide that help, even to those allies that we know work with our enemies behind our backs.

Anyways, continue on talking about how horrible of a place this is.

darktx2005

TBH, I'm 50% for Wikileaks. Some documents are classified for a reason and should never see public eye; others should be leaked because they expose political lies. The politicians who exploit the American people's ignorance of their government need a slap in the face.

Also, people need to learn the definition of terrorism. It's kinda hilarious so many people misuse the term when it's hammered into our heads daily.

But that would make this thread boring :(poptart

[QUOTE="darktx2005"][QUOTE="redstorm72"]

Yeah, I should have explained a bit better in my initial post. I just get tired of hearing from some people how America is the promised land of awesomeness and perfection. The U.S. is a great country, but it is by no means perfect. All nations can be improved.

SkyWard20

[QUOTE="poptart"]But that would make this thread boring :(t3hrubikscube

You'll kill a thread in seconds with that approach!

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"][QUOTE="poptart"]But that would make this thread boring :(poptart

You'll kill a thread in seconds with that approach!

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="l4dak47"] All subjective, of course. LJS9502_basic

like i said, research ;)

you can either look at theHuman Development Index or by others likeGlobal Peace Index,Gender Equality,Life expectancy ect.

you will be surprised how many times countries like norway and sweden are at the top

obviously, and you need to realize that the same is true for every county and mostly every single type of research EVER. Its impossible to take everything into account, there will always be either corruption or flaws.

the question is simply, is it enough to make a point? Or in the case of this thread, should we trust an opinion of a random nationalistic person on a gameing forum, or the only type of facts we have available?

il go with the facts, as long as people keep living in a dream world, they will never fix the problems in their society but rather ignore them.

There is a site that combines all sorts of information based on countries, and combines them into a overall score. Thats where i got the list of countries from. Feel free to research on your own, that is if you prefer facts. Nationalism and Patriotism can only get you as far. Its worth nothing in the real world.