Debunking the Theory of Evolution!
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Here are 10 ways to easily debunk Evolution. Remember, this is a theory not a fact. Even in Darwins original book the Theory of Evolution. He wrote a whole page in that book called " Errors with my theory". He wrote down many mistakes that could disprove Evolution. There are also many many videos on Youtube which disprove Evolution.
1. To produce a living thing you must start with a living thing. Evolution requires non-living matter to turn into a living thing and this has NEVER been observed. (This debunks Evolution alone)
2. No mechanism has been put forward that even begins to explain how something like the human eye could have been produced by time, chance and natural selection and mutation.
3. Natural Selection ( better adapted organisms surviving to pass genetic material) cannot produce Evolution because it produces no NEW genetic material.
4. Sir Fred Hoyle, of Cambridge University stated that statistically the chances of one cell evolving was the same as a Tornado passing through a junkyard and giving you a fully functional Jet Plane.
5. According to the theory of Evolution, at some time in the distant past there was no life in the universe -- just elements and chemical compounds. Somehow, these chemicals combined and came life.
6. Scientists dont really know how life came to be. Even Stanley Miller, whose experiments are cited in most bioligy text books says the origin of life is still unkown. The idea that dead material came to life all by itself is not consistent with scientific observation.
7. There are many creatures which defy evolution. Such as the Giraffe and Woodpecker bird.
8. There is no fossil evidence to prove man evolved from ape.
9. Where are the fossils of half evolved dinosaurs and or other creatures?
10. Evolution involves to much chance and coincidence for it to work. This makes it highly unlikely to have happened.
Conclusion:
-Evolution has never been observed. -Evolution violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics. -There are no trandsitional fossils. -The theory of Evolution says life originated, and Evolution proceeds by random chance. -Evolution is only a theory, it has not been proved.
I also have many many more ways to disprove and debunk Evolution.
qwerty2305
Yawwwwwn...
1. There's a basic lab experiment you can do, involves mixing some chemicals that I'm not going to bother to look up, but basically you create the water conditions found on earth before there was life. if you strike the mix with electricity (lightning) it causes a chain reaction that results in organic compounds forming. Wait a lot longer, and those compounds start to evolve into more complex compounds, and so on. The hypothesis goes that given enough time, these molecules started acting like life, then became living organisms.
2. Are you kidding? Even some bacteria have eyes, though in their case its just something that can detect light. Obviously the more complex this light sensing tissue becomes, the bigger the advantage the organism has. It should be no surprise then that over billions of years you could end up with a very complex light sensing organ (which is all an eye is, its your brain's interpretation of the data collected that lets you make out objects and movement).
3. Natural selection is the mechanism for determining which genes get passed, not creating them, nor is there anything intelligent about it. In fact, some genetic diseases are present in the population because they were once beneficial to humans (sickle cell anemia is a great example).
4. And if you allow that incident to occur infinitely, it will eventually happen. Considering that the universe, for all intents and purposes, is infinite, it should come as no surprise that life managed to come into being on at least one planet.
5. See #1
6. Simply because its unknown doesnt immediatly disqualify it. That just means we havent found the answer.
7. How do these animals defy evolution? Of the two you listed: a girraffe has an advantage over other animals because its long neck allows it to reach vegitation (food) that other animals cant. A woodpecker is able to get to grubs inside trees. No need to explain how thats beneficial.
8. Way to disregard the entire primate fossil record there champ. But to be technical about it, man didnt evolve from apes, so of course there's no fossil evidence to support the idea we evolved from them.
9. There's no such thing as a "half-evolved" animal. The fact you stated something like that shows how pathetic your understanding of evolution is. You seem to think evolution means that new animals just pop into existance, or that there are dramatic changes in an incremintal fashion. There arent. Evolution tends to be comprised of many different, subtle changes that take place over very long periods of time.
10. There is no chance or coincidence involved in evolution. Once you start the process, its guranteed to occur.
As for your claim that evolution has never been observed:
- Asian elephants are starting to be found born without tusks as a reaction to poaching.
- The gene for lactose tolerance only recently appeared in humans, specifically in the European population. Link
- You yourself posted pictures of people with extra fingers, toes, and rows of teeth. This is an example of potential evolution so to speak. All evolution is is mutations that happen to provide an advantage to an organism that help it to live long enough to pass on its genes. If these extra digits were of great enough use, its very possible that people could have six fingers on each hand instead of five. Its definitly not, however, evidence of angels breeding with humans like you asserted in the post you made about it.
- Microevolution. enough said.
[QUOTE="qwerty2305"]10. There is no chance or coincidence involved in evolution. Once you start the process, its guranteed to occur.
gameguy6700
U fail. Evolution happens completely by chance.
[QUOTE="yermomsboxx"]Gravity is a law.
Atrus
Incorrect.
It is the theory of gravitation for which there are laws such as the law of universal gravitation.
Hmm. I thought that the theory became a law after it was proven viable, thus the theory of gravity became the law of gravity. Oh well, learn something new everyday.
[QUOTE="qwerty2305"]Here are 10 ways to easily debunk Evolution. Remember, this is a theory not a fact. Even in Darwins original book the Theory of Evolution. He wrote a whole page in that book called " Errors with my theory". He wrote down many mistakes that could disprove Evolution. There are also many many videos on Youtube which disprove Evolution.
1. To produce a living thing you must start with a living thing. Evolution requires non-living matter to turn into a living thing and this has NEVER been observed. (This debunks Evolution alone)
2. No mechanism has been put forward that even begins to explain how something like the human eye could have been produced by time, chance and natural selection and mutation.
3. Natural Selection ( better adapted organisms surviving to pass genetic material) cannot produce Evolution because it produces no NEW genetic material.
4. Sir Fred Hoyle, of Cambridge University stated that statistically the chances of one cell evolving was the same as a Tornado passing through a junkyard and giving you a fully functional Jet Plane.
5. According to the theory of Evolution, at some time in the distant past there was no life in the universe -- just elements and chemical compounds. Somehow, these chemicals combined and came life.
6. Scientists dont really know how life came to be. Even Stanley Miller, whose experiments are cited in most bioligy text books says the origin of life is still unkown. The idea that dead material came to life all by itself is not consistent with scientific observation.
7. There are many creatures which defy evolution. Such as the Giraffe and Woodpecker bird.
8. There is no fossil evidence to prove man evolved from ape.
9. Where are the fossils of half evolved dinosaurs and or other creatures?
10. Evolution involves to much chance and coincidence for it to work. This makes it highly unlikely to have happened.
Conclusion:
-Evolution has never been observed. -Evolution violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics. -There are no trandsitional fossils. -The theory of Evolution says life originated, and Evolution proceeds by random chance. -Evolution is only a theory, it has not been proved.
I also have many many more ways to disprove and debunk Evolution.
gameguy6700
Yawwwwwn...
1. There's a basic lab experiment you can do, involves mixing some chemicals that I'm not going to bother to look up, but basically you create the water conditions found on earth before there was life. if you strike the mix with electricity (lightning) it causes a chain reaction that results in organic compounds forming. Wait a lot longer, and those compounds start to evolve into more complex compounds, and so on. The hypothesis goes that given enough time, these molecules started acting like life, then became living organisms.
2. Are you kidding? Even some bacteria have eyes, though in their case its just something that can detect light. Obviously the more complex this light sensing tissue becomes, the bigger the advantage the organism has. It should be no surprise then that over billions of years you could end up with a very complex light sensing organ (which is all an eye is, its your brain's interpretation of the data collected that lets you make out objects and movement).
3. Natural selection is the mechanism for determining which genes get passed, not creating them, nor is there anything intelligent about it. In fact, some genetic diseases are present in the population because they were once beneficial to humans (sickle cell anemia is a great example).
4. And if you allow that incident to occur infinitely, it will eventually happen. Considering that the universe, for all intents and purposes, is infinite, it should come as no surprise that life managed to come into being on at least one planet.
5. See #1
6. Simply because its unknown doesnt immediatly disqualify it. That just means we havent found the answer.
7. How do these animals defy evolution? Of the two you listed: a girraffe has an advantage over other animals because its long neck allows it to reach vegitation (food) that other animals cant. A woodpecker is able to get to grubs inside trees. No need to explain how thats beneficial.
8. Way to disregard the entire primate fossil record there champ. But to be technical about it, man didnt evolve from apes, so of course there's no fossil evidence to support the idea we evolved from them.
9. There's no such thing as a "half-evolved" animal. The fact you stated something like that shows how pathetic your understanding of evolution is. You seem to think evolution means that new animals just pop into existance, or that there are dramatic changes in an incremintal fashion. There arent. Evolution tends to be comprised of many different, subtle changes that take place over very long periods of time.
10. There is no chance or coincidence involved in evolution. Once you start the process, its guranteed to occur.
As for your claim that evolution has never been observed:
- Asian elephants are starting to be found born without tusks as a reaction to poaching.
- The gene for lactose tolerance only recently appeared in humans, specifically in the European population. Link
- You yourself posted pictures of people with extra fingers, toes, and rows of teeth. This is an example of potential evolution so to speak. All evolution is is mutations that happen to provide an advantage to an organism that help it to live long enough to pass on its genes. If these extra digits were of great enough use, its very possible that people could have six fingers on each hand instead of five. Its definitly not, however, evidence of angels breeding with humans like you asserted in the post you made about it.
- Microevolution. enough said.
Finally, someone actually responds to the questions.
Read: The Making of the Fittest: DNA and the Ultimate Forensic Record of Evolution By Sean B. Carroll
[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]
10. There is no chance or coincidence involved in evolution. Once you start the process, its guranteed to occur.
skullkrusher13
U fail. Evolution happens completely by chance.
No. Its chance that the conditions for life forming are there. After that evolution is guranteed. Its impossible that life wont change. If a mutation occurs that gives an organism an advantage over other organisms, that mutation is going to get passed on. And then that mutated organism's offspring are going to have that same mutation. And they'll have that advantage too, which allows them to pass on their genes better than other members of their species. So the gene for that mutation starts exponentially spreading throughout the specie over time, and after multiple generations the entire specie is now different. And if more mutations are added, then it may become so different as to cause it to be c.lassified as a completly different organism.
[QUOTE="skullkrusher13"][QUOTE="gameguy6700"][QUOTE="qwerty2305"]
10. There is no chance or coincidence involved in evolution. Once you start the process, its guranteed to occur.
gameguy6700
U fail. Evolution happens completely by chance.
No. Its chance that the conditions for life forming are there. After that evolution is guranteed. Its impossible that life wont change. If a mutation occurs that gives an organism an advantage over other organisms, that mutation is going to get passed on. And then that mutated organism's offspring are going to have that same mutation. And they'll have that advantage too, which allows them to pass on their genes better than other members of their species. So the gene for that mutation starts exponentially spreading throughout the specie over time, and after multiple generations the entire specie is now different. And if more mutations are added, then it may become so different as to cause it to be c.lassified as a completly different organism.
Tell that to the dinosaurs who were wiped out because of one giant rock falling from the sky. EVERYTHING IS BY CHANCE. If you want to argue more about this, go do it against my Bio Professor. I'm not chalk full of knowledge like he is, but I do know EVOLUTION = BY CHANCE.
-atoms
-black holes
-gravity
-anti-matter
-neutron stars
I guess those are all debunked also eh?
[QUOTE="gameguy6700"][QUOTE="skullkrusher13"][QUOTE="gameguy6700"][QUOTE="qwerty2305"]
10. There is no chance or coincidence involved in evolution. Once you start the process, its guranteed to occur.
skullkrusher13
U fail. Evolution happens completely by chance.
No. Its chance that the conditions for life forming are there. After that evolution is guranteed. Its impossible that life wont change. If a mutation occurs that gives an organism an advantage over other organisms, that mutation is going to get passed on. And then that mutated organism's offspring are going to have that same mutation. And they'll have that advantage too, which allows them to pass on their genes better than other members of their species. So the gene for that mutation starts exponentially spreading throughout the specie over time, and after multiple generations the entire specie is now different. And if more mutations are added, then it may become so different as to cause it to be c.lassified as a completly different organism.
Tell that to the dinosaurs who were wiped out because of one giant rock falling from the sky. EVERYTHING IS BY CHANCE. If you want to argue more about this, go do it against my Bio Professor. I'm not chalk full of knowledge like he is, but I do know EVOLUTION = BY CHANCE.
I think we're arguing two different things here. What you're saying is that its chance that we're here today, that the path evolution takes is by chance, which is correct. What I'm saying is that evolution, by and of itself, is not something that happens by chance, its guranteed to happen once life comes into being. In other words evolution is influenced by chance, not caused by it.
ok then. So why are there so many species of monkeys/primates if we evolved from them?
I still believe it, beats a book that says the world started 6000 years ago even though dinosaurs millions of years old have been found.Bourbons3mmm, the bible was written in a time where a week was actually 7 years according to translations, so how can we say that its not just another bad translation.
First of all, humans didnt evolve from monkeys. Both monkeys and humans evolved from a common ancestor. As for your question, they both fulfill a niche in their respective environments, so they're both still alive. You really should know all this if you already took a college biology class.ok then. So why are there so many species of monkeys/primates if we evolved from them?
skullkrusher13
Here are 10 ways to easily debunk Evolution. Remember, this is a theory not a fact. Even in Darwins original book the Theory of Evolution. He wrote a whole page in that book called " Errors with my theory". He wrote down many mistakes that could disprove Evolution. There are also many many videos on Youtube which disprove Evolution.
1. To produce a living thing you must start with a living thing. Evolution requires non-living matter to turn into a living thing and this has NEVER been observed. (This debunks Evolution alone)
Life originated from non living amino acids, this has been reproduced in laboritorys.
2. No mechanism has been put forward that even begins to explain how something like the human eye could have been produced by time, chance and natural selection and mutation.
It's actually very simple, skin that through mutation became sensitive to light made organisms with this trait more likely to survive, and further mutations upon this only increased organisms with this trait's oppertunity for survival, it's called natural selection, try reading a science book.
3. Natural Selection ( better adapted organisms surviving to pass genetic material) cannot produce Evolution because it produces no NEW genetic material.
Seriously did you fail biology or are you just ignorant by choice? Mutations arrise when dna is synthesized improperly on one side of the double helix, if it is on the side that is used as the basis for the other, when the mechanisms used for checking for errors goes over a strand, it will force the mutation onto the other strand as well. Plants in fact rely on rapidly increasing genetic meterial as a means for survival becouse it increases the size of the plant, and makes it more likely to survive.
4. Sir Fred Hoyle, of Cambridge University stated that statistically the chances of one cell evolving was the same as a Tornado passing through a junkyard and giving you a fully functional Jet Plane.
Proof? I'm guessing if this is the case he had a general ignorance on how evolution worked or was quoted saying this well before the 20th century.
5. According to the theory of Evolution, at some time in the distant past there was no life in the universe -- just elements and chemical compounds. Somehow, these chemicals combined and came life.
:o Chemical reactions, if you had taken a science you would be familiar with these
6. Scientists dont really know how life came to be. Even Stanley Miller, whose experiments are cited in most bioligy text books says the origin of life is still unkown. The idea that dead material came to life all by itself is not consistent with scientific observation.
The word "dead" refers to a once living biological reaction ceasing to function, it can't be "dead" if it was never alive to begin with, all the material nessasary for life was present on earth 3+ billion years ago, through chemical reaction and given conditions on the earth at that time, they combined to form simple forms of life. There are several theorys on how this occured. Conditions familiar to what it was like early in earths history have been reforduced in labs and basic material for life has been produced.
7. There are many creatures which defy evolution. Such as the Giraffe and Woodpecker bird.
How so? Traits like long necks to reach increasingly tall trees and hard beeks that co-evolved with insects that lived inside trees fits fine. So where do you get your bs informtion?
8. There is no fossil evidence to prove man evolved from ape.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neanderthal You make it so obvious that you don't know anything about evolution.
9. Where are the fossils of half evolved dinosaurs and or other creatures?
All over the place, do some researchhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fossil There are many extinct species.
10. Evolution involves to much chance and coincidence for it to work. This makes it highly unlikely to have happened.
Uh proof? The overwhelming evidence has been consitant with things like the fossil record and dna evidence
Conclusion:
-Evolution has never been observed.
:lol:you really are a jokehttp://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s1688507.htm
-Evolution violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics.
True only in isolation. A steady source of organized solar energy and the nearly infinite repository of deep space (to dump waste heat energy to) makes self-organization on the earth's surface inevitable. So now you've managed to show that you lack understanding of basic physics as well.
-There are no trandsitional fossils.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/701008.stm
-The theory of Evolution says life originated, and Evolution proceeds by random chance.
Yep, first non ignorant thing you've stated in your post
Evolution is only a theory, it has not been proved.
You're surely are intelligent, and that has been proven right here, gravity is a theory too.
I also have many many more ways to disprove and debunk Evolution.
Please don't bother, you'll just end up shown how you have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about, and you've alredy done a great job there
qwerty2305
Wow, not only have you shown that you completely lack basic knowledge on biology, but basic knowledge on scinece period, please before you do more to show that you have no knowledge of biology, go read a book.
Evolution is just the modern version of the round earth debate that occured in the past, and I only hope that opponents of it educate themselfs on the subject.
How do you know? Where is your facts on that one? EDIT: It seems my post serves no purpose as people has already posted good answers to the ten, nicely done. :) On another note; Biology is fun. :)Nobody really knows how life started. I certainly dont know how it started. . But I know for sure that the theory of Evolution has many flaws. I know that non-living material cant just turn into a living thing, and this is the basis of the Evolution theory.
qwerty2305
[QUOTE="Atrus"]In order to "debunk" evolution you have to first understand what it is, understand what you're saying and then understand the responses.Gravity is a law.
By the way, calling Evolution just a theory is to be ignorant of what theory means in science. It's a scientific theory, just like gravity and the periodic table of elements.
Personally, I'd like to know what state you live in, what was you're most recent level of education and at what school/institution because this type of Creationist/ID mental abuse is a problem.
yermomsboxx
Really? Then can you link me to an explaination on how it works on the quantum level? Or how it's fundamental parical has been observed?
Well....you can't becouse it hasn't been explained on small scales yet, and we haven't found a fundamental partical, there are still very real flaws within the theory.
-Evolution violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics.
Like others have said: 1, 5, and 6 have nothing to do with evolution, because evolutionary theory has never claimed to explain the origins of life. Darwin's book was called "On the Origin of Species" not, "On the Origin of Life".
2, was answered quite well before.
3, Of course NS doesn't produce new genetic material, that's not its point. New and mutated genetic material is produced through sexual reproduction mainly, and a few other environmental influences. NS weeds out the new and mutated genetic material that isn't beneficial, but allows and promotes the existance of genetic material that is beneficial to the species.
4, I don't see how one man's statement disprooves evolution. He also rejected the Big Bang Theory and believed in a steady state universe. Both of which fly in the face of observed facts about the universe.
7, Maybe you should explain how they do since you're making the assertion.
8, Your right there isn't. But there is alot of evidence that man evolved from an ancestor they shared with apes. Once again, you show your ignorance of what Evolution claims.
9, there are plenty. Theres a great deal of fossil evidence showing the progression of one branch of reptiles evolving into mammals. The evolution of the modern horse from much smaller animals is also very well represented in the fossil record and can be traced back almost 55 million years (link). And if you want a half-dinosaur, you only have to look at archaeopteryx. When they first found it they thought it was simply a small dinosaur. But after they finally had a chance to study it, they found that it was essentially a proto-bird.
10, Natural Selection does not work on chance. You again, show how ignorant you are of evolution and NS.
And evolution certainly doen't violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics. The earth is not a closed system. The planet and the ecosystem is provided energy by the sun.
1) Evolution doesn't say anything about how life BEGAN. Evolution deals only with changes in species. Considering that you don't even know this very simple trait of evolution, I seriously doubt that you know what you're talking about.
2) While we do not know exactly how the human eye evolved, it's a common anti-evolutionist tactic to say (or merely imply) that the eye would be useless if it didn't suddenly appear as is. The rationale being that the "early eye" wouldn't work, hence there would be no reason for such an organ to begin evolving. This is misleading at best, since there are an enourmous number of "eyes" in the animal kingdom ranging from clumps of light-sensitive cells, all the way up to mantis shrimp (which have the most complex eyes of any animal on earth). And guess what? They all work.
[QUOTE="thecreepingmess"]You're just making stuff up now.qwerty2305
Nope, im not. These are 10 serious flaws in Evolution thought up by Scientists around the world. These 10 reasons are FACTS by the way. Reason number 1 debunks the whole theory of Evolution alone, nobody on earth has an answer for question 1.
Evolution is the least flawed theory around. So go away.
4. where did he get his numbers? also we have to remember the earth is over 4.5 billion years old. a lot can happen in one billion years (which one cellular organisms evolved...) so those numbers aren't so bad if you look at the span of time
6. dead material can not come to life... i think you meant non-living material...
7. how do giraffes and woodpeckers defy evolution? over time due to natural selection they have had adaptations that allowed them to better live in their environment. i fail to see how they "defy" evolution.
8. for the last time i swear if i ever have to say this again i will scream. MAN DID NOT EVOLVE FROM APE! that is not the theory. the theory states that man and ape evolved from a common ancestor in the past and they have found fossils of this common ancestor and they have used DNA analysis as well to prove validity of apes and man having a common ancestor. (i can find the papers i found this from if you like. hopefully i found it in something like science rather than the journals i normally read)
9. there are a lot of holes in the fossil record, again the earth is quite old and is always in motion, rocks are melting and reforming, earthquakes and volcanoes. all these things cause problems in the fossil record. also remember we only have the bones of these organisms, in some cases there are little we actually know about their skin and outer layers such as fur or scales.
actually there have been transitional fossils found btw.
organism maybe common ancestor to ape and human
livescience stories on evolution
intelligent design and evolution
above are some of the links to stories i can find on the internet. alas i think some are in journals i have read at school. when i get back i can look through them and find the exact articles if anyone wants them
[QUOTE="Bourbons3"]I still believe it, beats a book that says the world started 6000 years ago even though dinosaurs millions of years old have been found.falconclanmmm, the bible was written in a time where a week was actually 7 years according to translations, so how can we say that its not just another bad translation.
A. there is no proof of that. B. that only adds up to 312,000 years.
[QUOTE="qwerty2305"]-Evolution has never been observed.
towel_
:| Yes, it has.
Indeed it has. Bacteria and diseases have been observed evolving and adapting to their environment.
But seriously we may not know how life came to be for a very long long time. But the whole thing about how God created us just sounds stupid to me.
[QUOTE="qwerty2305"]Here are 10 ways to easily debunk Evolution. Remember, this is a theory not a fact. Even in Darwins original book the Theory of Evolution. He wrote a whole page in that book called " Errors with my theory". He wrote down many mistakes that could disprove Evolution. There are also many many videos on Youtube which disprove Evolution.
1. To produce a living thing you must start with a living thing. Evolution requires non-living matter to turn into a living thing and this has NEVER been observed. (This debunks Evolution alone)
2. No mechanism has been put forward that even begins to explain how something like the human eye could have been produced by time, chance and natural selection and mutation.
3. Natural Selection ( better adapted organisms surviving to pass genetic material) cannot produce Evolution because it produces no NEW genetic material.
4. Sir Fred Hoyle, of Cambridge University stated that statistically the chances of one cell evolving was the same as a Tornado passing through a junkyard and giving you a fully functional Jet Plane.
5. According to the theory of Evolution, at some time in the distant past there was no life in the universe -- just elements and chemical compounds. Somehow, these chemicals combined and came life.
6. Scientists dont really know how life came to be. Even Stanley Miller, whose experiments are cited in most bioligy text books says the origin of life is still unkown. The idea that dead material came to life all by itself is not consistent with scientific observation.
7. There are many creatures which defy evolution. Such as the Giraffe and Woodpecker bird.
8. There is no fossil evidence to prove man evolved from ape.
9. Where are the fossils of half evolved dinosaurs and or other creatures?
10. Evolution involves to much chance and coincidence for it to work. This makes it highly unlikely to have happened.
Conclusion:
-Evolution has never been observed. -Evolution violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics. -There are no trandsitional fossils. -The theory of Evolution says life originated, and Evolution proceeds by random chance. -Evolution is only a theory, it has not been proved.
I also have many many more ways to disprove and debunk Evolution.
gameguy6700
Yawwwwwn...
1. There's a basic lab experiment you can do, involves mixing some chemicals that I'm not going to bother to look up, but basically you create the water conditions found on earth before there was life. if you strike the mix with electricity (lightning) it causes a chain reaction that results in organic compounds forming. Wait a lot longer, and those compounds start to evolve into more complex compounds, and so on. The hypothesis goes that given enough time, these molecules started acting like life, then became living organisms.
2. Are you kidding? Even some bacteria have eyes, though in their case its just something that can detect light. Obviously the more complex this light sensing tissue becomes, the bigger the advantage the organism has. It should be no surprise then that over billions of years you could end up with a very complex light sensing organ (which is all an eye is, its your brain's interpretation of the data collected that lets you make out objects and movement).
3. Natural selection is the mechanism for determining which genes get passed, not creating them, nor is there anything intelligent about it. In fact, some genetic diseases are present in the population because they were once beneficial to humans (sickle cell anemia is a great example).
4. And if you allow that incident to occur infinitely, it will eventually happen. Considering that the universe, for all intents and purposes, is infinite, it should come as no surprise that life managed to come into being on at least one planet.
5. See #1
6. Simply because its unknown doesnt immediatly disqualify it. That just means we havent found the answer.
7. How do these animals defy evolution? Of the two you listed: a girraffe has an advantage over other animals because its long neck allows it to reach vegitation (food) that other animals cant. A woodpecker is able to get to grubs inside trees. No need to explain how thats beneficial.
8. Way to disregard the entire primate fossil record there champ. But to be technical about it, man didnt evolve from apes, so of course there's no fossil evidence to support the idea we evolved from them.
9. There's no such thing as a "half-evolved" animal. The fact you stated something like that shows how pathetic your understanding of evolution is. You seem to think evolution means that new animals just pop into existance, or that there are dramatic changes in an incremintal fashion. There arent. Evolution tends to be comprised of many different, subtle changes that take place over very long periods of time.
10. There is no chance or coincidence involved in evolution. Once you start the process, its guranteed to occur.
As for your claim that evolution has never been observed:
- Asian elephants are starting to be found born without tusks as a reaction to poaching.
- The gene for lactose tolerance only recently appeared in humans, specifically in the European population. Link
- You yourself posted pictures of people with extra fingers, toes, and rows of teeth. This is an example of potential evolution so to speak. All evolution is is mutations that happen to provide an advantage to an organism that help it to live long enough to pass on its genes. If these extra digits were of great enough use, its very possible that people could have six fingers on each hand instead of five. Its definitly not, however, evidence of angels breeding with humans like you asserted in the post you made about it.
- Microevolution. enough said.
I do belive we have a winner.
[QUOTE="falconclan"][QUOTE="Bourbons3"]I still believe it, beats a book that says the world started 6000 years ago even though dinosaurs millions of years old have been found.Hewkiimmm, the bible was written in a time where a week was actually 7 years according to translations, so how can we say that its not just another bad translation.
A. there is no proof of that. B. that only adds up to 312,000 years. Im not saying that means 6000 weeks or wherever you got that number, and im not trying to preach the bible. Im just saying that it CAN be a mistranslation or something. Half the bible is clear as mud. Have you ever read revelations.... Its messed up.
Trust me, dozens of scientists have already disproved all that.qwerty2305
Fission mailed.
Other things that we can't observe but we know exist:
-atoms
-black holes
-gravity
-anti-matter
-neutron stars
I guess those are all debunked also eh?
helium_flash
Atoms-the Liberal lies!
Black holes-God's oh-so-holy warts!
Gravity-Simply intelligent falling!
Anti-matter-The Devil's work!
Neutron Stars-More Liberal lies!
I have debunked all of your "theories". I would like my winnings in chocolate bars. :)
You'd think these idiots that don't believe in evolution would try to come up with some new arguement that hasn't already been countered...pyroistheoneMy thoughts exactly.
Here are 10 ways to easily debunk Evolution. Remember, this is a theory not a fact. Even in Darwins original book the Theory of Evolution. He wrote a whole page in that book called " Errors with my theory". He wrote down many mistakes that could disprove Evolution. There are also many many videos on Youtube which disprove Evolution.
1. To produce a living thing you must start with a living thing. Evolution requires non-living matter to turn into a living thing and this has NEVER been observed. (This debunks Evolution alone)
2. No mechanism has been put forward that even begins to explain how something like the human eye could have been produced by time, chance and natural selection and mutation.
3. Natural Selection ( better adapted organisms surviving to pass genetic material) cannot produce Evolution because it produces no NEW genetic material.
4. Sir Fred Hoyle, of Cambridge University stated that statistically the chances of one cell evolving was the same as a Tornado passing through a junkyard and giving you a fully functional Jet Plane.
5. According to the theory of Evolution, at some time in the distant past there was no life in the universe -- just elements and chemical compounds. Somehow, these chemicals combined and came life.
6. Scientists dont really know how life came to be. Even Stanley Miller, whose experiments are cited in most bioligy text books says the origin of life is still unkown. The idea that dead material came to life all by itself is not consistent with scientific observation.
7. There are many creatures which defy evolution. Such as the Giraffe and Woodpecker bird.
8. There is no fossil evidence to prove man evolved from ape.
9. Where are the fossils of half evolved dinosaurs and or other creatures?
10. Evolution involves to much chance and coincidence for it to work. This makes it highly unlikely to have happened.
Conclusion:
-Evolution has never been observed. -Evolution violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics. -There are no trandsitional fossils. -The theory of Evolution says life originated, and Evolution proceeds by random chance. -Evolution is only a theory, it has not been proved.
I also have many many more ways to disprove and debunk Evolution.
qwerty2305
You know what? I'm bored, and for the sake of proper debate, I will contribute.
1) Your right. It has never been observed. Hence why it's still a theory. But since it's a theory, that means it is possible because it's based on facts. Which means it's observable.
2) There is a mechanism. It's called the Theory of Evolution.
3) This why mutations occur. Such as sickle-cells among African Americans. Sure, its a bane to them here in the US, but it protected them from various deseases that would otherwise kill them when there ancestors were in Africa.
4) That is one man versus thousands. Including other famous scientists from just as prestigious if not more prestigious schools. Your arguement here does not count as a "way" to debunk the Theory of Evolution.
5) Maybe. What are you saying? You are not making any arguement.
6) We are arguing about the Theory of Evolution. Not how life was originated.
7) Like how one defies gravity? You've made a statement, and you did not elaborate.
8 ) Your right. We did not evolve from apes. In fact, we still are apes. All we did was evolve from ancestors that started to walk upright. Like HomoErectus.
9) Dinosaurs died out. Their only descendants are birds.
10) That is an opinion, not an arguement.
There are also, in fact, more videos explaining how evolution works and why it is a testable and viable theory.
[QUOTE="gameguy6700"][QUOTE="qwerty2305"]Here are 10 ways to easily debunk Evolution. Remember, this is a theory not a fact. Even in Darwins original book the Theory of Evolution. He wrote a whole page in that book called " Errors with my theory". He wrote down many mistakes that could disprove Evolution. There are also many many videos on Youtube which disprove Evolution.
1. To produce a living thing you must start with a living thing. Evolution requires non-living matter to turn into a living thing and this has NEVER been observed. (This debunks Evolution alone)
2. No mechanism has been put forward that even begins to explain how something like the human eye could have been produced by time, chance and natural selection and mutation.
3. Natural Selection ( better adapted organisms surviving to pass genetic material) cannot produce Evolution because it produces no NEW genetic material.
4. Sir Fred Hoyle, of Cambridge University stated that statistically the chances of one cell evolving was the same as a Tornado passing through a junkyard and giving you a fully functional Jet Plane.
5. According to the theory of Evolution, at some time in the distant past there was no life in the universe -- just elements and chemical compounds. Somehow, these chemicals combined and came life.
6. Scientists dont really know how life came to be. Even Stanley Miller, whose experiments are cited in most bioligy text books says the origin of life is still unkown. The idea that dead material came to life all by itself is not consistent with scientific observation.
7. There are many creatures which defy evolution. Such as the Giraffe and Woodpecker bird.
8. There is no fossil evidence to prove man evolved from ape.
9. Where are the fossils of half evolved dinosaurs and or other creatures?
10. Evolution involves to much chance and coincidence for it to work. This makes it highly unlikely to have happened.
Conclusion:
-Evolution has never been observed. -Evolution violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics. -There are no trandsitional fossils. -The theory of Evolution says life originated, and Evolution proceeds by random chance. -Evolution is only a theory, it has not been proved.
I also have many many more ways to disprove and debunk Evolution.
mr111111
Yawwwwwn...
1. There's a basic lab experiment you can do, involves mixing some chemicals that I'm not going to bother to look up, but basically you create the water conditions found on earth before there was life. if you strike the mix with electricity (lightning) it causes a chain reaction that results in organic compounds forming. Wait a lot longer, and those compounds start to evolve into more complex compounds, and so on. The hypothesis goes that given enough time, these molecules started acting like life, then became living organisms.
2. Are you kidding? Even some bacteria have eyes, though in their case its just something that can detect light. Obviously the more complex this light sensing tissue becomes, the bigger the advantage the organism has. It should be no surprise then that over billions of years you could end up with a very complex light sensing organ (which is all an eye is, its your brain's interpretation of the data collected that lets you make out objects and movement).
3. Natural selection is the mechanism for determining which genes get passed, not creating them, nor is there anything intelligent about it. In fact, some genetic diseases are present in the population because they were once beneficial to humans (sickle cell anemia is a great example).
4. And if you allow that incident to occur infinitely, it will eventually happen. Considering that the universe, for all intents and purposes, is infinite, it should come as no surprise that life managed to come into being on at least one planet.
5. See #1
6. Simply because its unknown doesnt immediatly disqualify it. That just means we havent found the answer.
7. How do these animals defy evolution? Of the two you listed: a girraffe has an advantage over other animals because its long neck allows it to reach vegitation (food) that other animals cant. A woodpecker is able to get to grubs inside trees. No need to explain how thats beneficial.
8. Way to disregard the entire primate fossil record there champ. But to be technical about it, man didnt evolve from apes, so of course there's no fossil evidence to support the idea we evolved from them.
9. There's no such thing as a "half-evolved" animal. The fact you stated something like that shows how pathetic your understanding of evolution is. You seem to think evolution means that new animals just pop into existance, or that there are dramatic changes in an incremintal fashion. There arent. Evolution tends to be comprised of many different, subtle changes that take place over very long periods of time.
10. There is no chance or coincidence involved in evolution. Once you start the process, its guranteed to occur.
As for your claim that evolution has never been observed:
- Asian elephants are starting to be found born without tusks as a reaction to poaching.
- The gene for lactose tolerance only recently appeared in humans, specifically in the European population. Link
- You yourself posted pictures of people with extra fingers, toes, and rows of teeth. This is an example of potential evolution so to speak. All evolution is is mutations that happen to provide an advantage to an organism that help it to live long enough to pass on its genes. If these extra digits were of great enough use, its very possible that people could have six fingers on each hand instead of five. Its definitly not, however, evidence of angels breeding with humans like you asserted in the post you made about it.
- Microevolution. enough said.
I do belive we have a winner.
Haha, You explained far better and in better detail than I had. Congrats and salutations to you sir! :D
Qwerty stop trying.Dasc00
I havnt even posted for about an hour or 2? Are you an idiot? Sorry I take breaks from my computer unlike some people.
You of all people. Pretending to read a whole page of information in 5 minutes. You dont even care what other people post you just wanna read the stuff that supports your side of the argument.
[QUOTE="Dasc00"]Qwerty stop trying.qwerty2305
I havnt even posted for about an hour or 2? Are you an idiot? Sorry I take breaks from my computer unlike some people.
You of all people. Pretending to read a whole page of information in 5 minutes. You dont even care what other people post you just wanna read the stuff that supports your side of the argument.
oh sh-
[QUOTE="Dasc00"]Qwerty stop trying.qwerty2305
I havnt even posted for about an hour or 2? Are you an idiot? Sorry I take breaks from my computer unlike some people.
You of all people. Pretending to read a whole page of information in 5 minutes. You dont even care what other people post you just wanna read the stuff that supports your side of the argument.
Right. And you have credibility, unlike her, because of your vast understanding of the Theory of Evolution. :roll:
By the way, asking him/her if he/she is stupid or not makes you stupid. If you can't imagine why, it only further proves my previous statement.
Yes, you. Of all people.
[QUOTE="mr111111"][QUOTE="gameguy6700"][QUOTE="qwerty2305"]Here are 10 ways to easily debunk Evolution. Remember, this is a theory not a fact. Even in Darwins original book the Theory of Evolution. He wrote a whole page in that book called " Errors with my theory". He wrote down many mistakes that could disprove Evolution. There are also many many videos on Youtube which disprove Evolution.
1. To produce a living thing you must start with a living thing. Evolution requires non-living matter to turn into a living thing and this has NEVER been observed. (This debunks Evolution alone)
2. No mechanism has been put forward that even begins to explain how something like the human eye could have been produced by time, chance and natural selection and mutation.
3. Natural Selection ( better adapted organisms surviving to pass genetic material) cannot produce Evolution because it produces no NEW genetic material.
4. Sir Fred Hoyle, of Cambridge University stated that statistically the chances of one cell evolving was the same as a Tornado passing through a junkyard and giving you a fully functional Jet Plane.
5. According to the theory of Evolution, at some time in the distant past there was no life in the universe -- just elements and chemical compounds. Somehow, these chemicals combined and came life.
6. Scientists dont really know how life came to be. Even Stanley Miller, whose experiments are cited in most bioligy text books says the origin of life is still unkown. The idea that dead material came to life all by itself is not consistent with scientific observation.
7. There are many creatures which defy evolution. Such as the Giraffe and Woodpecker bird.
8. There is no fossil evidence to prove man evolved from ape.
9. Where are the fossils of half evolved dinosaurs and or other creatures?
10. Evolution involves to much chance and coincidence for it to work. This makes it highly unlikely to have happened.
Conclusion:
-Evolution has never been observed. -Evolution violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics. -There are no trandsitional fossils. -The theory of Evolution says life originated, and Evolution proceeds by random chance. -Evolution is only a theory, it has not been proved.
I also have many many more ways to disprove and debunk Evolution.
The_Ish
Yawwwwwn...
1. There's a basic lab experiment you can do, involves mixing some chemicals that I'm not going to bother to look up, but basically you create the water conditions found on earth before there was life. if you strike the mix with electricity (lightning) it causes a chain reaction that results in organic compounds forming. Wait a lot longer, and those compounds start to evolve into more complex compounds, and so on. The hypothesis goes that given enough time, these molecules started acting like life, then became living organisms.
2. Are you kidding? Even some bacteria have eyes, though in their case its just something that can detect light. Obviously the more complex this light sensing tissue becomes, the bigger the advantage the organism has. It should be no surprise then that over billions of years you could end up with a very complex light sensing organ (which is all an eye is, its your brain's interpretation of the data collected that lets you make out objects and movement).
3. Natural selection is the mechanism for determining which genes get passed, not creating them, nor is there anything intelligent about it. In fact, some genetic diseases are present in the population because they were once beneficial to humans (sickle cell anemia is a great example).
4. And if you allow that incident to occur infinitely, it will eventually happen. Considering that the universe, for all intents and purposes, is infinite, it should come as no surprise that life managed to come into being on at least one planet.
5. See #1
6. Simply because its unknown doesnt immediatly disqualify it. That just means we havent found the answer.
7. How do these animals defy evolution? Of the two you listed: a girraffe has an advantage over other animals because its long neck allows it to reach vegitation (food) that other animals cant. A woodpecker is able to get to grubs inside trees. No need to explain how thats beneficial.
8. Way to disregard the entire primate fossil record there champ. But to be technical about it, man didnt evolve from apes, so of course there's no fossil evidence to support the idea we evolved from them.
9. There's no such thing as a "half-evolved" animal. The fact you stated something like that shows how pathetic your understanding of evolution is. You seem to think evolution means that new animals just pop into existance, or that there are dramatic changes in an incremintal fashion. There arent. Evolution tends to be comprised of many different, subtle changes that take place over very long periods of time.
10. There is no chance or coincidence involved in evolution. Once you start the process, its guranteed to occur.
As for your claim that evolution has never been observed:
- Asian elephants are starting to be found born without tusks as a reaction to poaching.
- The gene for lactose tolerance only recently appeared in humans, specifically in the European population. Link
- You yourself posted pictures of people with extra fingers, toes, and rows of teeth. This is an example of potential evolution so to speak. All evolution is is mutations that happen to provide an advantage to an organism that help it to live long enough to pass on its genes. If these extra digits were of great enough use, its very possible that people could have six fingers on each hand instead of five. Its definitly not, however, evidence of angels breeding with humans like you asserted in the post you made about it.
- Microevolution. enough said.
I do belive we have a winner.
Haha, You explained far better and in better detail than I had. Congrats and salutations to you sir! :D
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[QUOTE="yermomsboxx"]Gravity is a law.
Atrus
Incorrect.
It is the theory of gravitation for which there are laws such as the law of universal gravitation.
Semantics. Stop being so pedantic.
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