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There are man flaws in different theories -- evolution is just one of those theories. If you look at intelligent design (for those who do not know, intelligent design is creationism, or in another words god), it's just a theory as well. That's just like saying you can come up with some factual information to as why intelligent design is flawed and hasn't been proven yet; however, that doesn't mean that it is incorrect and should be disgarded. There are so many theories out there and they will be flawed, just like evolution. Not everything has an answer. If everything did, then we wouldn't have to worry about researching, experimenting, developing new ways to see how the world was created, to see how something started out, etc. We would have all the answers in our hands and we wouldn't be debating about this. However, seeing as how everything does not have an answer, some scientists create hypothesis, experimenting them. That hypothesis can be turned into a theory. Just because something has a flaw doesn't mean that it is not correct at all. Look at a horse. How did it get here? Did it or did it not evolve? Did it just come out of nowhere?ayanami_reiCreationism isnt a theory because it dosent follow the scientific method
Semantics. Stop being so pedantic.
dunamistheou
Some evolutionists are going to come in all stuttery and be like But-but-but-butĀ
seriously there are absolutely no half evolved creatures, which means every single creature in the last X number of years died when it was fully evolved which is impossible. That's like finding a fish with two stubs coming out and a nose on it's face like it was about to evolve but died.
Archaeopteryx.Some evolutionists are going to come in all stuttery and be like But-but-but-butĀ
seriously there are absolutely no half evolved creatures, which means every single creature in the last X number of years died when it was fully evolved which is impossible. That's like finding a fish with two stubs coming out and a nose on it's face like it was about to evolve but died.
Half-Life_man
If Jesus were a scientist he would probably say evolution is just a natural system God made to maintain the biological order of the universe. Darth matt
animals with inferior traits generally die out, and evolution isn't a linear process.....Some evolutionists are going to come in all stuttery and be like But-but-but-butĀ
seriously there are absolutely no half evolved creatures, which means every single creature in the last X number of years died when it was fully evolved which is impossible. That's like finding a fish with two stubs coming out and a nose on it's face like it was about to evolve but died.
Half-Life_man
[QUOTE="Half-Life_man"]animals with inferior traits generally die out, and evolution isn't a linear process.....Some evolutionists are going to come in all stuttery and be like But-but-but-but
seriously there are absolutely no half evolved creatures, which means every single creature in the last X number of years died when it was fully evolved which is impossible. That's like finding a fish with two stubs coming out and a nose on it's face like it was about to evolve but died.
yoshi-lnex
The others are too preposterous to touch, apart from the first. But scientists have been able to create proteins in a lab with simulated lightning which fuses CO2 with vaporized H2O-Karayan-
Didn't they create a distant cousin of RNA using simply matter believed to have been in the Earth's early atmosphere?
[QUOTE="Darth matt"]If Jesus were a scientist he would probably say evolution is just a natural system God made to maintain the biological order of the universe. helium_flash
[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"][QUOTE="Half-Life_man"]animals with inferior traits generally die out, and evolution isn't a linear process.....Some evolutionists are going to come in all stuttery and be like But-but-but-but
seriously there are absolutely no half evolved creatures, which means every single creature in the last X number of years died when it was fully evolved which is impossible. That's like finding a fish with two stubs coming out and a nose on it's face like it was about to evolve but died.
Headbanger88
to OP:Ā you obviously dont understand how evolution works.. but go ahead and go on your little crusade, i dont need to prove anything to youCrucifier
Of course you don't.Ā You're relying on everyone else's opinion to carry your views into intelligent fruition.Ā Just like 95% of everyone else who responded, all I'veĀ seen is mudslinging and sarcasm that in no way supports any claims PROVING evolution.Ā But go ahead and keep trying to intimidate people with your extravegantly proposed knowledge of how life works; weĀ don't need to prove anything to you...
[QUOTE="Crucifier"]to OP: you obviously dont understand how evolution works.. but go ahead and go on your little crusade, i dont need to prove anything to youBobbyBobby85
Of course you don't. You're relying on everyone else's opinion to carry your views into intelligent fruition. Just like 95% of everyone else who responded, all I've seen is mudslinging and sarcasm that in no way supports any claims PROVING evolution. But go ahead and keep trying to intimidate people with your extravegantly proposed knowledge of how life works; we don't need to prove anything to you...
By the way. If anybody wants to counter these 10 arguments feel free. But remember, you must respond to them with Factual information (FACTS). Not opinions or theories.
Even Darwin himself (The creator of the theory) found major flaws in his theory.
qwerty2305
Ā Creationists have nothing to prove because well there's nothing really there. Look at Intelligent Design. "Well, because humans are so complex ony an intelligent higher being can create us." That's like saying "This math homework is too hard for me so I'm just going to give up and argue that the homework was way too hard to possibly be completed. " That's when your teacher writes a 0 in his gradebook and tells you to sit down and stop playing games on your calculator so you can actually learn something.
Headbanger88
No it isn't.Ā For one, You're implying that evolutionists and atheists know exactly how to do this "math" with no problems at all.Ā It seems like a good portion of what influences atheist beliefs is how smart it makes them feel when they try to use science to back it up.Ā The simple truth remains that even if this world is ultra complex, christians and members of the scientific community alike will never be able to fully comprehend or explain it all. Nevertheless, I will always find the notion that everything just formed from nothing completely absurd.
I have another question about evolution.
If species started from one root and then evolved, then how comes we have very discrete species?
I assume you need millions of years for something to evolve to something else, which should mean you should get billions of in-between creatures (This is essential for the tiny probability to build up).
What we notice though is that species are very discrete. We don't have all sorts of uniform level of evolution between humans and apes. Where did all the intermediate levels go? They were supposedly more advanced than apes (although admittedly less than humans).
I have another question about evolution.
If species started from one root and then evolved, then how comes we have very discrete species?
I assume you need millions of years for something to evolve to something else, which should mean you should get billions of in-between creatures (This is essential for the tiny probability to build up).
What we notice though is that species are very discrete. We don't have all sorts of uniform level of evolution between humans and apes. Where did all the intermediate levels go? They were supposedly more advanced than apes (although admittedly less than humans).
someonebeepbeepbeep9
I tend to go off on rants (which is probably why no one here likes me...) but I will keep this brief
EXACTLY
[QUOTE="Headbanger88"]
Creationists have nothing to prove because well there's nothing really there. Look at Intelligent Design. "Well, because humans are so complex ony an intelligent higher being can create us." That's like saying "This math homework is too hard for me so I'm just going to give up and argue that the homework was way too hard to possibly be completed. " That's when your teacher writes a 0 in his gradebook and tells you to sit down and stop playing games on your calculator so you can actually learn something.
BobbyBobby85
No it isn't. For one, You're implying that evolutionists and atheists know exactly how to do this "math" with no problems at all. It seems like a good portion of what influences atheist beliefs is how smart it makes them feel when they try to use science to back it up. The simple truth remains that even if this world is ultra complex, christians and members of the scientific community alike will never be able to fully comprehend or explain it all. Nevertheless, I will always find the notion that everything just formed from nothing completely absurd.
Here are 10 ways to easily debunk Evolution. Remember, this is a theory not a fact. Even in Darwins original book the Theory of Evolution. He wrote a whole page in that book called " Errors with my theory". He wrote down many mistakes that could disprove Evolution. There are also many many videos on Youtube which disprove Evolution.
1. To produce a living thing you must start with a living thing. Evolution requires non-living matter to turn into a living thing and this has NEVER been observed. (This debunks Evolution alone)
2. No mechanism has been put forward that even begins to explain how something like the human eye could have been produced by time, chance and natural selection and mutation.
3. Natural Selection ( better adapted organisms surviving to pass genetic material) cannot produce Evolution because it produces no NEW genetic material.
4. Sir Fred Hoyle, of Cambridge University stated that statistically the chances of one cell evolving was the same as a Tornado passing through a junkyard and giving you a fully functional Jet Plane.
5. According to the theory of Evolution, at some time in the distant past there was no life in the universe -- just elements and chemical compounds. Somehow, these chemicals combined and came life.
6. Scientists dont really know how life came to be. Even Stanley Miller, whose experiments are cited in most bioligy text books says the origin of life is still unkown. The idea that dead material came to life all by itself is not consistent with scientific observation.
7. There are many creatures which defy evolution. Such as the Giraffe and Woodpecker bird.
8. There is no fossil evidence to prove man evolved from ape.
9. Where are the fossils of half evolved dinosaurs and or other creatures?
10. Evolution involves to much chance and coincidence for it to work. This makes it highly unlikely to have happened.
Conclusion:
-Evolution has never been observed. -Evolution violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics. -There are no trandsitional fossils. -The theory of Evolution says life originated, and Evolution proceeds by random chance. -Evolution is only a theory, it has not been proved.
I also have many many more ways to disprove and debunk Evolution.
Ā
qwerty2305
[QUOTE="qwerty2305"]Here are 10 ways to easily debunk Evolution. Remember, this is a theory not a fact. Even in Darwins original book the Theory of Evolution. He wrote a whole page in that book called " Errors with my theory". He wrote down many mistakes that could disprove Evolution. There are also many many videos on Youtube which disprove Evolution.
1. To produce a living thing you must start with a living thing. Evolution requires non-living matter to turn into a living thing and this has NEVER been observed. (This debunks Evolution alone)
2. No mechanism has been put forward that even begins to explain how something like the human eye could have been produced by time, chance and natural selection and mutation.
3. Natural Selection ( better adapted organisms surviving to pass genetic material) cannot produce Evolution because it produces no NEW genetic material.
4. Sir Fred Hoyle, of Cambridge University stated that statistically the chances of one cell evolving was the same as a Tornado passing through a junkyard and giving you a fully functional Jet Plane.
5. According to the theory of Evolution, at some time in the distant past there was no life in the universe -- just elements and chemical compounds. Somehow, these chemicals combined and came life.
6. Scientists dont really know how life came to be. Even Stanley Miller, whose experiments are cited in most bioligy text books says the origin of life is still unkown. The idea that dead material came to life all by itself is not consistent with scientific observation.
7. There are many creatures which defy evolution. Such as the Giraffe and Woodpecker bird.
8. There is no fossil evidence to prove man evolved from ape.
9. Where are the fossils of half evolved dinosaurs and or other creatures?
10. Evolution involves to much chance and coincidence for it to work. This makes it highly unlikely to have happened.
Conclusion:
-Evolution has never been observed. -Evolution violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics. -There are no trandsitional fossils. -The theory of Evolution says life originated, and Evolution proceeds by random chance. -Evolution is only a theory, it has not been proved.
I also have many many more ways to disprove and debunk Evolution.
Ā
Media_geek20
Ever notice how there's only like a dozen of these presumed neanderthal fossils total?Ā If it took millions of years for us humans to develop, how come there aren't millions of other similar fossils around the world to support this claim?Ā Where are all of the missing links' relatives?Ā Also, since we're playing the game of chance, whatĀ do you believeĀ theĀ odds areĀ that these archeological artifacts could be nothing more than a few mishapen and/or developmentally deformed ape or human skulls?
[QUOTE="qwerty2305"]By the way. If anybody wants to counter these 10 arguments feel free. But remember, you must respond to them with Factual information (FACTS). Not opinions or theories.
Even Darwin himself (The creator of the theory) found major flaws in his theory.
tycoonmike
[QUOTE="Media_geek20"][QUOTE="qwerty2305"]Here are 10 ways to easily debunk Evolution. Remember, this is a theory not a fact. Even in Darwins original book the Theory of Evolution. He wrote a whole page in that book called " Errors with my theory". He wrote down many mistakes that could disprove Evolution. There are also many many videos on Youtube which disprove Evolution.
1. To produce a living thing you must start with a living thing. Evolution requires non-living matter to turn into a living thing and this has NEVER been observed. (This debunks Evolution alone)
2. No mechanism has been put forward that even begins to explain how something like the human eye could have been produced by time, chance and natural selection and mutation.
3. Natural Selection ( better adapted organisms surviving to pass genetic material) cannot produce Evolution because it produces no NEW genetic material.
4. Sir Fred Hoyle, of Cambridge University stated that statistically the chances of one cell evolving was the same as a Tornado passing through a junkyard and giving you a fully functional Jet Plane.
5. According to the theory of Evolution, at some time in the distant past there was no life in the universe -- just elements and chemical compounds. Somehow, these chemicals combined and came life.
6. Scientists dont really know how life came to be. Even Stanley Miller, whose experiments are cited in most bioligy text books says the origin of life is still unkown. The idea that dead material came to life all by itself is not consistent with scientific observation.
7. There are many creatures which defy evolution. Such as the Giraffe and Woodpecker bird.
8. There is no fossil evidence to prove man evolved from ape.
9. Where are the fossils of half evolved dinosaurs and or other creatures?
10. Evolution involves to much chance and coincidence for it to work. This makes it highly unlikely to have happened.
Conclusion:
-Evolution has never been observed. -Evolution violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics. -There are no trandsitional fossils. -The theory of Evolution says life originated, and Evolution proceeds by random chance. -Evolution is only a theory, it has not been proved.
I also have many many more ways to disprove and debunk Evolution.
BobbyBobby85
Ever notice how there's only like a dozen of these presumed neanderthal fossils total? If it took millions of years for us humans to develop, how come there aren't millions of other similar fossils around the world to support this claim? Where are all of the missing links' relatives? Also, since we're playing the game of chance, what do you believe the odds are that these archeological artifacts could be nothing more than a few mishapen and/or developmentally deformed ape or human skulls?
There arent millions of these cause they werent fit enough to reproduce that much[QUOTE="Media_geek20"][QUOTE="qwerty2305"]Here are 10 ways to easily debunk Evolution. Remember, this is a theory not a fact. Even in Darwins original book the Theory of Evolution. He wrote a whole page in that book called " Errors with my theory". He wrote down many mistakes that could disprove Evolution. There are also many many videos on Youtube which disprove Evolution.
1. To produce a living thing you must start with a living thing. Evolution requires non-living matter to turn into a living thing and this has NEVER been observed. (This debunks Evolution alone)
2. No mechanism has been put forward that even begins to explain how something like the human eye could have been produced by time, chance and natural selection and mutation.
3. Natural Selection ( better adapted organisms surviving to pass genetic material) cannot produce Evolution because it produces no NEW genetic material.
4. Sir Fred Hoyle, of Cambridge University stated that statistically the chances of one cell evolving was the same as a Tornado passing through a junkyard and giving you a fully functional Jet Plane.
5. According to the theory of Evolution, at some time in the distant past there was no life in the universe -- just elements and chemical compounds. Somehow, these chemicals combined and came life.
6. Scientists dont really know how life came to be. Even Stanley Miller, whose experiments are cited in most bioligy text books says the origin of life is still unkown. The idea that dead material came to life all by itself is not consistent with scientific observation.
7. There are many creatures which defy evolution. Such as the Giraffe and Woodpecker bird.
8. There is no fossil evidence to prove man evolved from ape.
9. Where are the fossils of half evolved dinosaurs and or other creatures?
10. Evolution involves to much chance and coincidence for it to work. This makes it highly unlikely to have happened.
Conclusion:
-Evolution has never been observed. -Evolution violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics. -There are no trandsitional fossils. -The theory of Evolution says life originated, and Evolution proceeds by random chance. -Evolution is only a theory, it has not been proved.
I also have many many more ways to disprove and debunk Evolution.
Ā
BobbyBobby85
Ever notice how there's only like a dozen of these presumed neanderthal fossils total? If it took millions of years for us humans to develop, how come there aren't millions of other similar fossils around the world to support this claim? Where are all of the missing links' relatives? Also, since we're playing the game of chance, what do you believe the odds are that these archeological artifacts could be nothing more than a few mishapen and/or developmentally deformed ape or human skulls?
I still believe it, beats a book that says the world started 6000 years ago even though dinosaurs millions of years old have been found.Bourbons3So, you areĀ choosing evolution overĀ creationism because you find it be lesser of two evils...? Whatever. If you want to settle, I suppose that is your choose to be making.
Personally, for my own belief system,Ā I do not claim to be expert on either of the fields, however, what I doĀ know is that I am not really satisfied with either of those theories and therefore, believe in neither. For my personal being, I find it best to keep my options open as much as I possibly can.
Also, with that being said, I do not see why majority of you folks feelĀ need to be one or another, whether it believer in evolutionĀ or creationism...?Ā I mean,Ā why is that each of theories have be exclusiveĀ from each other? What about combination theory? Or, for that matter, what is wrongĀ with exploring other theories beyond these two?
I can understand if some of you folks have passion for your believes, along withĀ feel as if they are fact, however, to state things along the lines ofĀ "your idiot if you do not believe *insert* theory" is silly. There is good and logicalĀ reason they call them theories, so please, treat them as such and if nothing else, respecting belief system of other people.
Furthermore, I wish more people wouldĀ realize regardless ofĀ their belief, there are flaws in all of the theories (most certainly not something is exclusive to any particular theory), so quit acting as if, some how, your belief system is "better" than the rest - instead - the only difference is that its exactly that, different - until "proven" to be otherwise, yourĀ belief isĀ not really any "better" or "worse" than rest of theories out there.
However, with that being said, this message isĀ nothing more than unrealistic idealogical thinking at best, so, with that being ---Ā never mind. Simply want to get those feeling out and in the open.
Here areĀ 10 ways to easily debunk Evolution. Remember, this is a theory not a fact. Even in Darwins original book the Theory of Evolution. He wrote a whole page in that book called " Errors with my theory". He wrote down many mistakes that could disprove Evolution. There are also many many videos on Youtube which disprove Evolution.
1. To produce a living thing you must start with a living thing. Evolution requires non-living matter to turn into a living thing and this has NEVER been observed. (This debunks Evolution alone)
2. No mechanism has been put forward that even begins to explain how something like the human eye could have been produced by time, chance and natural selection and mutation.
3. Natural Selection ( better adapted organisms surviving to pass genetic material) cannot produce Evolution because it produces no NEW genetic material.
4. Sir Fred Hoyle, of Cambridge University stated that statistically the chances of one cell evolving was the same as a Tornado passing through a junkyard and giving youĀ a fully functional Jet Plane.
5. According to the theory of Evolution, at some time in the distant past there was no life in the universe -- just elements and chemical compounds. Somehow, these chemicals combined and came life.
6. Scientists dont really know how life came to be. Even Stanley Miller, whose experiments are cited in most bioligy text books says the origin of life is still unkown. The idea that dead material came to life all by itself is not consistent with scientific observation.
7. There are many creatures which defy evolution. Such as the Giraffe and Woodpecker bird.
8. There is no fossil evidence to prove man evolved from ape.
9. Where are the fossils of half evolved dinosaurs and or other creatures?
10. Evolution involves to much chance and coincidence for it to work. This makes it highly unlikely to have happened.
Conclusion:
-Evolution has never been observed.Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā -Evolution violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics.Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā -There are no trandsitional fossils.Ā Ā Ā -The theory of Evolution says life originated, and Evolution proceeds by random chance.Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā -Evolution is only a theory, it has not been proved.
I also have many many more ways to disprove and debunk Evolution.Ā
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qwerty2305
Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā Ā This is rediculous,Ā buddy you do knowĀ this doesn't disprove anything what so ever.. It merely shows that we do not haveĀ enough evidence as of yet toĀ prove if it is factual or not...
Ā Ā Ā Clear example of this is GRAVITY..Ā Ā At this time Neuton's idea of gravity as it stands due to our observations are false.. That we can only detect at best 30% of the mass needed in the universe to keep galaxies together..Ā Ā WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT 70% of the universe is made up of, yet we still use it..Ā Because its the best case scenerio out there, if you can come up with a better idea that can actually be provenĀ with more evidence then evolution be my guess, because as it stands evolution is the most realistic idea out there...
Ā Ā Not just that buddy but our universe alone shows that probability is everything.. With our galxy alone holding billions of stars who knows how many planets going around themĀ no matter howĀ slim chances are it is possible.. Not just that but there is a estimated 300+ BILLIOn galaxies out there.. So you do the math..Ā Ā Most people should accept the most logical explaination, and as it stands Evolution should be it.. It has billions of pieces of evidence, if scientists had the pathetic path of believing their theories as actuality withĀ as little amount of evidence as religion, then they would have trumped any form of creationism long ago..Ā Ā But they care more for actuality then being right, far more scientists in history have admited their mistakes only to make more superior theories..Ā
Ā Ā WE CAN'T get to the point that we know half as much we would like to know about weather that effects our planet to this day..Ā
You know, I don't have a problem believing that a bacteria can evolve into a a medicine resistant form given the right circumstances. I do, however, find it hard to believe that given enough time and the proper circumstances that a fish could evolve into a dog...Laserwolf65
Ā Ā Ā I still don't understand why evolution isn't at very least PARTIALLY accepted by every one..Ā If evolution did not exist, why in the hell do we have an Apendix?Ā A organ that does absolutly nothing for us as of now and infact can endanger our lives if it is enflamed..Ā
Ā Ā Ā Or that mankind 300 years ago was no where near the average size of menkind today...Ā Where 6ft+ is becoming average and expected, when earlier that was considered a giant..Ā Ā Not to mention our average wieghts increasing naturally..
I still don't understand why evolution isn't at very least PARTIALLY accepted by every one.. If evolution did not exist, why in the hell do we have an Apendix? A organ that does absolutly nothing for us as of now and infact can endanger our lives if it is enflamed..
Or that mankind 300 years ago was no where near the average size of menkind today... Where 6ft+ is becoming average and expected, when earlier that was considered a giant.. Not to mention our average wieghts increasing naturally..
sSubZerOo
[QUOTE="funnymario"]Yet,Ā people believe inĀ a book that states that there were no dinosaurs and the world was made in a week....
Any proof there? No.
Krendog
Um you're an idiot. We never said that we don't believe that their were dinousaurs. Get all your dang facts straight. And don't be such an ignorant.....
How can I get any facts straight when the're not even there to begin with? The Bible says God created animals, man and everything in the universe in a week. Where as science says that dinosaurs lived about 60 000 000 years before any human being did. Just agreeing that dinosaurs existed kinda debunks the idea of creationism. I wasn't attacking Christianity you {insert foul name here} (but I am now :twisted: ), Im just saying that there is no concrete proof that either one is right but people believe in what they want.
PS: I think of myself as a very open-minded person :D
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