Defense of Marriage Act Struck Down as Unconstitutional (5-4)

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] which was expected for years.jimkabrhel

What was hoped for by the public and what was expected in legal terms are two very different things. No one expected the court in its current makeup to make sweeping statements about gay marriage.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Yea. Where are you from?KC_Hokie

What was hoped for by the public and what was expected in legal terms are two very different things. No one expected the court in its current makeup to make sweeping statements about gay marriage.

And those people had either an unrealistic expectation, or you are reading too far into what they said.

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Yea. Where are you from?KC_Hokie

Good news. This should really be a non-issue.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

What was hoped for by the public and what was expected in legal terms are two very different things. No one expected the court in its current makeup to make sweeping statements about gay marriage.

jimkabrhel

And those people had either an unrealistic expectation, or you are reading too far into what they said.

Oh and one other place that is likely to be fun today? Facebook.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Yea they did. Whenever the issue of gay marriage was debated people on both sides always said "wait until the prop 8 and DOMA rulings".KC_Hokie

And those people had either an unrealistic expectation, or you are reading too far into what they said.

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Yea they did. Whenever the issue of gay marriage was debated people on both sides always said "wait until the prop 8 and DOMA rulings".KC_Hokie

And those people had either an unrealistic expectation, or you are reading too far into what they said.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

And those people had either an unrealistic expectation, or you are reading too far into what they said.

DroidPhysX

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

the prop 8 ruling dismissed the case and vacated the appeal to the Ninth Circuit Court (federal), meaning the CA district court (state) ruling is upheld

lostrib

Right, I get that, but what I'm saying is that in the DOMA ruling they're saying that it deprives homosexuals of personhood and restricts their liberties.  Shouldn't that establish gay marriage as a right for the whole country?  I get that it doesn't, I'm not getting why.

i think they get around it by saying that once the state determined gays can marry, the Feds cannot discriminate between the marriage of a same-sex couple vs hetero couple. But obviously I'm not a lawyer

I see now.  I still think that should extend to marriage in general, though, given previous rulings on interracial marriage and the court establishing that restrictions are a form of dicsrimination.

I've been grinning like an idiot for the past hour, mostly because this is going to piss off my family. But while I am very happy about a move in what I think is the right direction, I can't help but be sad that I'm still going to have to move states if I want to get legally married anytime soon. I wish this just wasn't an issue at all. No! Don't go away grin! Today is a day to be happy.IdioticIcarus

Hey, if you Google "gay marriage" the search bar thingy goes all rainbowy. :)IdioticIcarus

And the profanation of marriage continues. :?

I've been grinning like an idiot for the past hour, mostly because this is going to piss off my family. But while I am very happy about a move in what I think is the right direction, I can't help but be sad that I'm still going to have to move states if I want to get legally married anytime soon. I wish this just wasn't an issue at all. No! Don't go away grin! Today is a day to be happy.IdioticIcarus

My fundy uncle is coming into town pretty soon, I'm sure he'll be ranting about this a good deal (last time he was ranting about how Obama only got elected because he was black).  I wish I had a smartphone so I could pull up that Palpatine meme whenever he starts to go off.

And the profanation of marriage continues. :?

maheo30

And the profanation of marriage continues. :?

maheo30

[spoiler] Ah well, at least I get to use it here. [/spoiler]

Traditional marriage ruined. Baby Jesus weeps. Whore of Babylon grins. It's over, man. It's over. Buy canned food, build a bunker, hide for 20 years kbye. 

Happy for all the OThomosexuals. 

And the profanation of marriage continues. :?

maheo30

Divorce does damage. And spousal abuse. And Real Housewives shows. Allowing adults who love each other to get married hurts abso-fvcking-lutely no one.

Where did all the conserveitives go? I wanted to have some fun :(

Where did all the conserveitives go? I wanted to have some fun :(

Rougehunter

Out buying some preperation H for all the butthurt they're experiencing.

[QUOTE="Rougehunter"]

Where did all the conserveitives go? I wanted to have some fun :(

DJ-Lafleur

Out buying some preperation H for all the butthurt they're experiencing.

Where did all the conserveitives go? I wanted to have some fun :(

Rougehunter

too busy marrying their boyfriends on the side

Damn, this is just adding to the terrible things happening in the US lately.

Damn, this is just adding to the terrible things happening in the US lately.

GD1551

how so?

Good, this opens the door to polygamy, bestiality, incest, hebephilia, probably pedophilia.

No wonder America is becoming a joke.

too busy marrying their boyfriends on the side

lostrib

What? It's just some innocent brosex for fun. No homogayluv, man, cuz that's, like, gay. 

Good, this opens the door to polygamy, bestiality, incest, hebephilia, probably pedophilia.

No wonder America is becoming a joke.

AHUGECAT

sarcasm?

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

too busy marrying their boyfriends on the side

LordQuorthon

What? It's just some innocent brosex for fun. No homogayluv, man, cuz that's, like, gay. 

Yeah, what's some innocent foot tapping in the bathroom. Totally not gay

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Damn, this is just adding to the terrible things happening in the US lately.

lostrib

how so?

By normalizing this stuff: http://americansfortruth.com/2012/06/21/philadelphia-gay-pride-parade-and-festival-feature-lewd-acts-porn-booth-sadomasochists/#more-11937

(Note: Kind of graphic, but this is what you voted for)

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Damn, this is just adding to the terrible things happening in the US lately.

AHUGECAT

how so?

By normalizing this stuff: http://americansfortruth.com/2012/06/21/philadelphia-gay-pride-parade-and-festival-feature-lewd-acts-porn-booth-sadomasochists/#more-11937

(Note: Kind of graphic, but this is what you voted for)

Yup, because ALL gay people do this stuff, while a heterosexual person would never ever consider doing such things.

 

Yup, because ALL gay people do this stuff, while a heterosexual person would never ever consider doing such things.

DJ-Lafleur

Show me in America, the heterosexual Folsom Street Fair. Show me a parade where heterosexuals give each other oral sex in front of kids please.

Oh and one other place that is likely to be fun today? Facebook.

Serraph105

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Damn, this is just adding to the terrible things happening in the US lately.

AHUGECAT

how so?

By normalizing this stuff: http://americansfortruth.com/2012/06/21/philadelphia-gay-pride-parade-and-festival-feature-lewd-acts-porn-booth-sadomasochists/#more-11937

(Note: Kind of graphic, but this is what you voted for)

yeah WOT gives that a poor rating, so not clicking on it.  But homosexuality is not the same as beatiality

[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

 

Yup, because ALL gay people do this stuff, while a heterosexual person would never ever consider doing such things.

AHUGECAT

Show me in America, the heterosexual Folsom Street Fair. Show me a parade where heterosexuals give each other oral sex in front of kids please.

So what's with all the SW trolls coming here today?

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

how so?

lostrib

By normalizing this stuff: http://americansfortruth.com/2012/06/21/philadelphia-gay-pride-parade-and-festival-feature-lewd-acts-porn-booth-sadomasochists/#more-11937

(Note: Kind of graphic, but this is what you voted for)

yeah WOT gives that a poor rating, so not clicking on it.  But homosexuality is not the same as beatiality

WOT wants to censor what you see then, lmao. Just like the Communists (America is now a communist nation). And this opens the door to bestiality and hebephilia, and quite possibly pedophilia.

Not sure I understand what difference it'll make. It's still up the individual states to legalize it right?

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]

[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

 

Yup, because ALL gay people do this stuff, while a heterosexual person would never ever consider doing such things.

PannicAtack

Show me in America, the heterosexual Folsom Street Fair. Show me a parade where heterosexuals give each other oral sex in front of kids please.

lol not only do the kids attend, they actually PARTICIPATE. This is the mindset of today's "America." America won't even exist in 20 years so who cares right?

So what's with all the SW trolls coming here today?

jimkabrhel

[QUOTE="GD1551"]

Damn, this is just adding to the terrible things happening in the US lately.

lostrib

how so?

First Prism and now this!

Just like the Communists (America is now a communist nation).AHUGECAT