democrat, republican, communist, or liberal

i'm conservative and %100 anti communist. dissonantblack

I'm a whig.  Ohhhh yeah. 8)

libertarian. so im part of the right wing.

right wing = freedoms

left = communism and socialism (related to nazism mind you) 

libertarian. so im part of the right wing.

 

right wing = freedoms

left = communism and socialism (related to nazism mind you)

Childish_Spot

right wing = patriot act = no freedoms. 

libertarian. so im part of the right wing.

 

right wing = freedoms

left = communism and socialism (related to nazism mind you)

Childish_Spot

You've got it wrong.

Yes, left is Communism and SOME socialism, but National Socialism falls under right wing ideals. I'm not bashing either, Communism is equally as bad. Libertarian is also in the center, I believe it's social liberalism and economic conservatism.

I don't know or care, but somewhere there is an optimal tax rate. Now it's clearly not 0% and it's clearly not 100%.  So what is it?  That is a good question.

I'd also like to say that "free markets" are a myth. 

libertarian. so im part of the right wing.

 

right wing = freedoms

left = communism and socialism (related to nazism mind you)

Childish_Spot

Nazism is a far right wing ideology in which rights are severly restricted, communism and socialism are left wing ideology that support mixed or non capitalistic economys, and the left supports greater social freedoms.

I don't know or care, but somewhere there is an optimal tax rate. Now it's clearly not 0% and it's clearly not 100%. So what is it? That is a good question.

I'd also like to say that "free markets" are a myth.

SpaceMoose

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libertarian. so im part of the right wing.

 

right wing = freedoms

left = communism and socialism (related to nazism mind you)

yoshi-lnex

Nazism is a far right wing ideology in which rights are severly restricted, communism and socialism are left wing ideology that support mixed or non capitalistic economys, and the left supports greater social freedoms.

Communism is great :), *Ding Dong* government at my door again :(Flow4U

I support socialist economic policys and liberal social policys, it provides the greatest freedom and benifit for people at both ends.yoshi-lnex

I've seen few examples of socialist countries where their economies allow people freedom.  Maybe some of the scandinavian countries, but they really aren't socialist.

right wing = freedoms

left = communism and socialism (related to nazism mind you) 

Childish_Spot

Was that a serious comment?

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right wing = freedoms

left = communism and socialism (related to nazism mind you)

the_leet_kid

Was that a serious comment?

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]I support socialist economic policys and liberal social policys, it provides the greatest freedom and benifit for people at both ends.sonicare

I've seen few examples of socialist countries where their economies allow people freedom. Maybe some of the scandinavian countries, but they really aren't socialist.

socialism might work if the US ever gave it a chance. president allende (elected by the people) of chile was a stanch socialist and he was improving the country without destroying the economy. too bad the CIA helped replace him with one of the most ruthless dictators the world has ever seen.

[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]I support socialist economic policys and liberal social policys, it provides the greatest freedom and benifit for people at both ends.sonicare

I've seen few examples of socialist countries where their economies allow people freedom.  Maybe some of the scandinavian countries, but they really aren't socialist.

I don't care anything but communism is fine with me oscar530

Socially speaking, I am mostly conservative...for example, I will never vote for a candidate who supports abortion or gay rights (that's right, I might not be voting in 2008 ). However I am against the death penalty, in principle.

Economically, I am also mostly conservative. The only issue I am liberal on is corporate control of the media.

Global warming, etc....I don't really care. I'll drive what I want, eat what I want, and break all the damn styrofoam I want.

me= republican, what about you?mesocoo89

I'm a whig.  Ohhhh yeah. 8)

 

The_Ish

I'm the anti-masonry  party.  Fine, don't teach us the secret handshake.

[QUOTE="Childish_Spot"]

libertarian. so im part of the right wing.

 

right wing = freedoms

left = communism and socialism (related to nazism mind you)

Greatgone12

You've got it wrong.

Yes, left is Communism and SOME socialism, but National Socialism falls under right wing ideals. I'm not bashing either, Communism is equally as bad. Libertarian is also in the center, I believe it's social liberalism and economic conservatism.

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[QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]I support socialist economic policys and liberal social policys, it provides the greatest freedom and benifit for people at both ends.danteswrath2000

I've seen few examples of socialist countries where their economies allow people freedom.  Maybe some of the scandinavian countries, but they really aren't socialist.

By definition, restrictions lead to less freedom.  Capitalism is an imperfect system, full of flaws.  There certainly needs to be some regulation to promote a more equal distribution of assets.  However, it's just better than the alternative.

 Also, for clarification, my reference to less freedom had less to do with legal restrictions and more to do with the economic situations of many/most socialistic countries.  The people of the USSR, China, Cuba, Vietnam, North Korea, etc. haven't really benefitted from the "social revolution" that their countries governments were all founded on.  Many proponents of communism/socialsim state that this is because those countries never developed into the socialistic utopia.  But what they fail to realize is that's the underlying problem with sociaism -> it's purely idealistic and not readily attainable on any large scale.

By definition, restrictions lead to less freedom.

sonicare

I bet most of you guys who are anti-communists/socialists don't even know what it is......

I saw one write "anything but communism"......what an idiot

I bet most of you guys who are anti-communists/socialists don't even know what it is......

I saw one write "anything but communism"......what an idiot

jointed

It's an unattainable ideal.  Every major country that has tried to adopt true communism, has only had it corrupted ala Stalinism or maoism.  I even have issues with the ideal communist or socialist state because I think that it takes to much away from the individual, but that's not even the main problem.

Certainly, on small scales it can work.  And some countries can implement forms of it, i.e. many european governments have many socialistic policies - but none of them are true socialistic states.

It's an unattainable ideal. Every major country that has tried to adopt true communism, has only had it corrupted ala Stalinism or maoism. I even have issues with the ideal communist or socialist state because I think that it takes to much away from the individual, but that's not even the main problem.

Certainly, on small scales it can work. And some countries can implement forms of it, i.e. many european governments have many socialistic policies - but none of them are true socialistic states.

sonicare

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It's an unattainable ideal. Every major country that has tried to adopt true communism, has only had it corrupted ala Stalinism or maoism. I even have issues with the ideal communist or socialist state because I think that it takes to much away from the individual, but that's not even the main problem.

Certainly, on small scales it can work. And some countries can implement forms of it, i.e. many european governments have many socialistic policies - but none of them are true socialistic states.

quiglythegreat

They're not different concepts.  Communism is a form of socialism, a branch of it in sense.

Communism is based on a mutual ownership of property/capital - eliminating any sense of difference or advantage between people.  In a sense, emphasis on the group rather than the individual.  There are good and bad points to that, but I stand by our individual rights.

Communist FTW

j/k

Democrate and liberal

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="sonicare"]

It's an unattainable ideal. Every major country that has tried to adopt true communism, has only had it corrupted ala Stalinism or maoism. I even have issues with the ideal communist or socialist state because I think that it takes to much away from the individual, but that's not even the main problem.

Certainly, on small scales it can work. And some countries can implement forms of it, i.e. many european governments have many socialistic policies - but none of them are true socialistic states.

sonicare

They're not different concepts. Communism is a form of socialism, a branch of it in sense.

Communism is based on a mutual ownership of property/capital - eliminating any sense of difference or advantage between people. In a sense, emphasis on the group rather than the individual. There are good and bad points to that, but I stand by our individual rights.