[QUOTE="sonicare"] [QUOTE="yoshi-lnex"]I support socialist economic policys and liberal social policys, it provides the greatest freedom and benifit for people at both ends.yoshi-lnex
I've seen few examples of socialist countries where their economies allow people freedom. Maybe some of the scandinavian countries, but they really aren't socialist.
There are a few problems with providing greater economic freedom, namely, only the rich benefit. When companies are allowed to expand uncontrolled (simple example being wall mart) business is destroyed, jobs are lost, the economy suffers, and all those who are not the extremely rich suffer, their rights are lost, and economic conservatives seem generally blind to this. "Paris Hilton tax cuts" in which the rich are able to pass their vast fortune to their children assure that for generations to come their family will not have to create any benefit in society, only further abuse those who do not share their their undeserved wealth, not only does this assure a lack of productivity in the future of owned companies and owner (because they are not the innovators that produced this vast fortune), but it stops future inventors, innovators or entrepreneurs from competing in the market, because small business owners cannot compete against companies that dwarf them in finances, and yet, fiscal cons again ignore this. College and health care are still not free within this country while every other developed country in the world, despite there being a direct relationship between economic prosperity and the health and education of the population, and yet this is ignored by fiscal conservatives. This only adds to the problem of the severe poverty that exists within this country, becouse people who are within poverty have an incredibly difficult time of advancing in socioty and are basically destined to live within poverty, yet fiscal conservatives again ignore this.I'm convincedthat fiscal and social cons are not only holding this country back from greater prosperity, are going to lead to further economic despotism within socioty and restricted social freedoms, we falling behind both socially and economically, and this will lead to the quickening of the U.S. falling as the lone superpower.
Your making some pretty bold assumptions in your reasoning. You are mixing capitalism/free enterprise with far right republican values. They are not the same at all. Most liberals in this country are also for capitalism and free markets. Secondly, you assume that any person who accumulates wealth did so undeservingly or underhanded. Thirdly, free markets stimulate innovation and entrepreneurs.Â
Capitalistic societies can support the welfare of their citizens. They can promote social responsibility and programs that serve the disadvantaged - medicaid, welfare, etc. Taxes also promote a mild form of redistribution of wealth as they support the prementioned programs. Our current system is far from ideal, but also far from disaster. I'm not crazy about the growing corporate power in this country either. It happened 100 years ago, and it took Teddy Roosevelt to break up the monopolies / "robber barons" of this country and get the system back on track.
Just like socialism and communism, capitalism and free markets are an ideal. I believe that some government regulation to assure fair practices is mandatory and needs to be better implemented. What you are preaching against is more "republican values" than against democracy and capitalism. Communism has ruined many nations that have tried to implement it. I just wish that people would be a little more wise to the dangers it poses. It's one thing to have some socialization of certain aspects of society - that's reasonable, but much different than becoming a socialist or communist state.
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