Did a Bible prophecy just come true?

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#1 optiplex7
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Deuteronomy says "oil" and "hidden treasures" will be found in Israel in
the last days of history. The prophecies of Ezekiel 38 & 39 indicate Israel
will be significantly prosperous in the last days, before a
Russian-Iranian-Turkish(army of the north)alliance forms against her and seeks to destroy her.

Another Ynet headline today: "ISRAEL'S ECONOMY CHARGES AHEAD; 4.7% growth
in Q2: Israel's economic growth hits 4.7% in second quarter of 2010, leaving
behind Euro bloc at 4.1%." Key point: Israel now has the fastest growing
economy in the West.

Here is the proof or the coincidence http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/139163

What are your thoughts? Middle east was always packed with oil? Its just a fluke? Or do you believe this may be a prophecy fullfilled?

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#2 carrot-cake
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No, just no. Seriously man? REALLY?

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#3 herpderp9000
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O_O well if they attack Iran, this just might come true.
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#4 scarecrowM
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I don't see it sorry :/

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#5 optiplex7
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I dont know man it just seems so direct and simple, it was said then done.

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#6 WiiMan21
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Maybe, its a possibility.

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#7 GabuEx
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This Biblical prophecy could be counted as having come true any time Israel's economy is booming, ever, which is practically 100% guaranteed to happen due to the natural dynamics of national economies. :?

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#9 ragek1ll589
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Fluke. How many other times have we seen comparisons drawn from Bible passages to current events that have not resulted in the rapture?

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#10 optiplex7
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Then i guess they need to be number 1 economy in the west while they get attacked by northern countries for this to be fully "fullfilled"

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#11 Link334
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No, it didn't.
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#12 ragek1ll589
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Then i guess they need to be number 1 economy in the west while they get attacked by northern countries for this to be fully "fullfilled"

optiplex7

Or there is simply no correlation between the passage and what is occuring.

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#13 GabuEx
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Then i guess they need to be number 1 economy in the west while they get attacked by northern countries for this to be fully "fullfilled"

optiplex7

I'm also fairly sure that Russia,Iran, and Turkey did not exist when the the Book of Ezekiel was written, so...

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#14 clayron
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I am a Christian and even I think that is stretching. Some please post the "Oh Lawd" pic.
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#16 carrot-cake
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I am a Christian and even I think that is stretching. Some please post the "Oh Lawd" pic.clayron

Which one?

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#17 GabuEx
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="optiplex7"]

Then i guess they need to be number 1 economy in the west while they get attacked by northern countries for this to be fully "fullfilled"

dreDREb13

I'm also fairly sure that Russia,Iran, and Turkey did not exist when the the Book of Ezekiel was written, so...

I think he said "army of the north", so I guess that's what he meant.

But, wait, Iran isn't to the north of Israel.

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#18 clayron
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[QUOTE="clayron"]I am a Christian and even I think that is stretching. Some please post the "Oh Lawd" pic.carrot-cake


Which one?

"What going on in here? Oh Lawd" pic.

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#20 Darthkaiser
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This Biblical prophecy could be counted as having come true any time Israel's economy is booming, ever, which is practically 100% guaranteed to happen due to the natural dynamics of national economies. :?

GabuEx
And the oil???
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#21 clayron
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]Ireland... Sounds like Iran...? The Irish were waiting for their chance. We were too late.dreDREb13
People think are Irish are just getting liquored up there in that little country. Well, they are in for a surprise when the great nation of Ireland rises up and becomes the new world super power. *laughs evilly and relishes in Irish blood*
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#23 clayron
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[QUOTE="clayron"][QUOTE="dreDREb13"]Ireland... Sounds like Iran...? The Irish were waiting for their chance. We were too late.dreDREb13
People think are Irish are just getting liquored up there in that little country. Well, they are in for a surprise when the great nation of Ireland rises up and becomes the new world super power. *laughs evilly and relishes in Irish blood*

You think they're just getting drunk? No. They're just numbing themselves to take as much punishment as possible.

Absolutely genius.
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#24 poptart
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I thought you were referring to the return of Omni-Slash.

Then I realised it would require Sajedene to return in order for the prophecy to come true :P

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#25 Danm_999
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Iran is to the east of Israel... In fact, large parts of it stick out south of Israel. Also, why the qualifier "in the West", for the fastest growing economy?
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#26 lordreaven
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Lets think ofit likethis, i predicted that Afghanistan would have a decent amount of mineral wealth (the country is 90% mountains) does that make me a prophet? It was bound to have a few rescources (just no one though it would be that huge!). The same goes for Israel. Its bound to have some unfound resources. All you need to make these "predictions" is a basic understanding of the land, a general idea of what people will need (that changes, so just make it very vague, like "a rich substance found in the earth". Tha could go from Oil to potatos, to gold to iron etc.).

Its not hard to make these kind of predictions, man has been doing it since we began existing.

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#27 carrot-cake
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[QUOTE="carrot-cake"]

[QUOTE="clayron"]I am a Christian and even I think that is stretching. Some please post the "Oh Lawd" pic.clayron


Which one?

"What going on in here? Oh Lawd" pic.


Oh I cant find it.

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#28 Plzhelpmelearn
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Dude the rapture happened in 70 AD, I'm sorry but you missed it. Preterism FTW.

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#29 theone86
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

This Biblical prophecy could be counted as having come true any time Israel's economy is booming, ever, which is practically 100% guaranteed to happen due to the natural dynamics of national economies. :?

Darthkaiser

And the oil???

In addition to what Gabu said about those countries not existing when the passage was written, I'm also fairly sure fossil fuel was not yet discovered. Oil, in that time, was used in reference either to oil that was used to heat lampsor to make bath oils. It was a valuable resource and I'm not sure exactly what it was made out of, but I do know it wasn't petroleum.

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#31 AzzoLovesBirdy
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Fluke. How many other times have we seen comparisons drawn from Bible passages to current events that have not resulted in the rapture?

ragek1ll589
When all nations turn against Israel, the second coming of Christ is very near. That's slowly happening and has been for a long time, that's not what you can call a fluke. But that's a whole different thing.
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#32 dercoo
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Just saying the land of Israel has been invaded by "armies of the north" many times in history already...

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#33 F1_2004
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Most of the middle eastern countries are a bunch of lucky bastards. To wake up one day and find oil (aka black gold) in your backyard, that's nothing but luck.
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#34 grape_of_wrath
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Most of the middle eastern countries are a bunch of lucky bastards. To wake up one day and find oil (aka black gold) in your backyard, that's nothing but luck.F1_2004
Yeah..only until now Israel had zero natural resources...which is very odd considering where it's located... Also the reason for the economical growth is,in fact, god.and his name is stanely fisher......
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#35 foxhound_fox
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This Biblical prophecy could be counted as having come true any time Israel's economy is booming, ever, which is practically 100% guaranteed to happen due to the natural dynamics of national economies. :?

GabuEx


But that's the beauty of a "prophecy," it is designed from the start to be easily interpretable and come true on multiple occasions. It just relies on the short-sightedness of the surrounding community to make it come "true."

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#36 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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gotta love how, like fortune cookies and horoscopes, things in the bible seem to be vaguely written enough to apply to anything
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#38 foxhound_fox
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The bible was made up, simple as that. No truth was so ever.

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That in and of itself is "made up." There is plenty of "truth" in the Bible, whether it be somewhat altered historicity or moral standards that fulfill a lot of people's lives. It may not be a history textbook, but there is far more "truth" in it than you might well know. Anything blatantly supernatural should be critically and sceptically analyzed, but for the most part, the Bible is an account of historical events, whether it is 100% accurate or not (no account is ever 100% accurate).

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#39 AzzoLovesBirdy
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The bible was made up, simple as that. No truth was so ever.

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It's fickle, immature and arrogant to assume a book is false, and not actually read and then ask if the it's true. You see it's imperfections and expect it to be perfect because it's about God. The truth is, it's a book compiled of journal entries by men inspirited by God. Anything made-man, can never be perfect even if commanded by the Lord. Don't judge a book by it's cover.

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#40 Overlord93
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Not to be harsh, but say something vague and leave the whole of history for it to happen and its bound to be furfilled at some point

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#42 AzzoLovesBirdy
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[QUOTE="AzzoLovesBirdy"]

[QUOTE="Robbazking"] [QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="Robbazking"]

The bible was made up, simple as that. No truth was so ever.

Robbazking


That in and of itself is "made up." There is plenty of "truth" in the Bible, whether it be somewhat altered historicity or moral standards that fulfill a lot of people's lives. It may not be a history textbook, but there is far more "truth" in it than you might well know. Anything blatantly supernatural should be critically and sceptically analyzed, but for the most part, the Bible is an account of historical events, whether it is 100% accurate or not (no account is ever 100% accurate).

It's made up, just like any other religious book. Pure fantasy and you don't need a religious book to learn morals.



Since when was the topic anything about morals? We're talking about revelations written in the Bible that are happening. You've said that it can't be true because the Bible is fiction, a book you haven't even read.

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[QUOTE="Robbazking"][QUOTE="AzzoLovesBirdy"]

That in and of itself is "made up." There is plenty of "truth" in the Bible, whether it be somewhat altered historicity or moral standards that fulfill a lot of people's lives. It may not be a history textbook, but there is far more "truth" in it than you might well know. Anything blatantly supernatural should be critically and sceptically analyzed, but for the most part, the Bible is an account of historical events, whether it is 100% accurate or not (no account is ever 100% accurate).AzzoLovesBirdy

It's made up, just like any other religious book. Pure fantasy and you don't need a religious book to learn morals.



Since when was the topic anything about morals? We're talking about revelations written in the Bible that are happening. You've said that it can't be true because the Bible is fiction, a book you haven't even read.

the immediate assumption that he hasn't read it is no different from the assumptions he is making, thus. your point is invalid.

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[QUOTE="AzzoLovesBirdy"][QUOTE="Robbazking"] It's made up, just like any other religious book. Pure fantasy and you don't need a religious book to learn morals.Overlord93



Since when was the topic anything about morals? We're talking about revelations written in the Bible that are happening. You've said that it can't be true because the Bible is fiction, a book you haven't even read.

the immediate assumption that he hasn't read it is no different from the assumptions he is making, thus. your point is invalid.



My assumption is an indirect challenge for him to dispute. If he has read it, he'll tell me otherwise, if not, then my assumption is correct. Either way that doesn't have any affect on my point. He's calling something false, without any reasoning.

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#45 rawsavon
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True or false...it matters not, this thread will not end well.
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#46 Overlord93
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[QUOTE="Overlord93"][QUOTE="AzzoLovesBirdy"]

Since when was the topic anything about morals? We're talking about revelations written in the Bible that are happening. You've said that it can't be true because the Bible is fiction, a book you haven't even read.AzzoLovesBirdy

the immediate assumption that he hasn't read it is no different from the assumptions he is making, thus. your point is invalid.

My assumption is an indirect challenge for him to dispute. If he has read it, he'll tell me otherwise, if not, then my assumption is correct. Either way that doesn't have any affect on my point. He's calling something false, without any reasoning.

your calling that he hasn't read it...without any reasoning

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#47 foxhound_fox
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It's made up, just like any other religious book. Pure fantasy and you don't need a religious book to learn morals.

Robbazking


Prove that its made up and not based on historical events. Prove its "pure fantasy." And I don't think anyone has said you need a religious book, or religion at all to learn or know morality.

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#48 Wasdie  Moderator
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You could take almost anything for a prophecy that just came true.

I can make 10,000 outlandish predictions for the future. If I have a success rate of 1/1,000 that means I'll have 10 successful predictions. People will write books on my 10 successful predictions and call me some prophet, all the while not focusing on the 9,990 predictions I got wrong.

That's pretty much the Bible for ya as well as it is 99% help those who are less fortunate than yourself, and 1% on the stuff you shouldn't do. Funny how that 1% is always taken way more seriously than that first 99%.

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#49 IAMTHEJOKER88
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I am a Christian and even I think that is stretching. Some please post the "Oh Lawd" pic.clayron

yeah cause that is absurd. that and zombies whom we worship at a time called easter with chocolate bunnys which we eat. not only that, but before this God of ours became a zombie, he was a big mac sacrifice for God to absolve us of any guilt

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#50 Pixel-Pirate
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Theres a reason prophecies are so incredibly vague.