Did I deserve this? (Somewhat abortion related)

Had a quiz the other day regarding abortion and the last part was an essay test wherein the question and situation goes like this: "After finishing your exams, you went out with your friends to a nightclub and had a good time. Afterwards, on your way home, you were raped and confirmed to be pregnant. Would you continue your pregnancy?".

I thought about it long and hard and really imagined myself in that situation and thought "I don't think I can do it" so I answered "No" and said "I am not prepared and not in a situation where I can support my child properly and raise him up". I even admitted that it would be very hard for me to do so but I just can't go on with the pregnancy. We got our papers back today and I only got 2/5 for that part and my prof wrote a note saying "I hope time comes where you will change your mind". It's bothering me a bit since I feel I didn't deserve the 2 points. I was being completely honest and thought I was entitled to my own thoughts and opinion and deserved higher.

Anyway, do you guys think I deserved the score?

All i read was you saying "I hate babies"

It does sound like your teacher may be a little bit biased, but without a copy of your essay for us to read, who's to say you didn't deserve the two?

It does sound like your teacher may be a little bit biased, but without a copy of your essay for us to read, who's to say you didn't deserve the two?

airshocker

Honestly, that seems like a question that has no business being on a quiz. Not because of the touchy subject matter, but because It's a totally subjective question. How exactly do you score an answer that is 100% opinion?

Given the reply the teacher gave to your answer further suggests there was biased with the scoring. You should go around asking other students the general answer they gave and what the score was. Find out if their was a correlation to people who said "yes" getting higher marks than people who answered "no".

That's pretty much all I wrote. It wasn't a long essay, just had to answer yes or no and explain why and defend your answer. Oh and no I don't hate babies, I could never hate them and their cuteness :P I just really couldn't imagine myself pregnant and studying and having work at the hospital and having no source of income or anything or any clue on parenting. Hmmm....Kenny789

Aren't you a male?ExGabu

a quiz with an essay? huh? anyway as long as your argue your point you will get marked accordingly. People always think they deserve higher grades on tests weezyfb

Honestly, that seems like a question that has no business being on a quiz. Not because of the touchy subject matter, but because It's a totally subjective question. How exactly do you score an answer that is 100% opinion?

Given the reply the teacher gave to your answer further suggests there was biased with the scoring. You should go around asking other students the general answer they gave and what the score was. Find out if their was a correlation to people who said "yes" getting higher marks than people who answered "no".

keech

Do you go to public school?

Do you go to public school?

ExGabu

[QUOTE="ExGabu"]

Do you go to public school?

Kenny789

"After finishing your exams, you went out with your friends to a nightclub and had a good time. Afterwards, on your way home, you were raped and confirmed to be pregnant. Would you continue your pregnancy?".

"I don't think I can do it" "I am not prepared and not in a situation where I can support my child properly and raise him up".

my prof wrote a note saying "I hope time comes where you will change your mind".

Kenny789

It sounds like your professor's gonna rape you :o

Anyway I'd confront the professor. From the feedback they left it looks like they based your grade not on the merits of your argument or what you learned in the **** but on their own opinion and how yours differed. Don't get caught up in an argument about abortion, but keep the argument about the feedback and education. If the professor doesn't change their tune go to the faculty office as setup an appointment w/ the head of the department (or whoever takes care of educational grievances). Bring the paper as evidence, and if you're good at arguing you can probably audit the course and still get full credit for it (from the looks of your post you don't have the skills to pull this off).

If it is a religious school, probably. As a student, you need to learn that you have to tell a teacher what they want to hear to be successful. ExGabu

It sounds like your professor's gonna rape you :o

Anyway I'd confront the professor. From the feedback they left it looks like they based your grade not on the merits of your argument or what you learned in the **** but on their own opinion and how yours differed. Don't get caught up in an argument about abortion, but keep the argument about the feedback and education. If the professor doesn't change their tune go to the faculty office as setup an appointment w/ the head of the department (or whoever takes care of educational grievances). Bring the paper as evidence, and if you're good at arguing you can probably audit the course and still get full credit for it (from the looks of your post you don't have the skills to pull this off).

jrhawk42

That sounds like a very personal and inappropriate question for school in my opinion...

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

It does sound like your teacher may be a little bit biased, but without a copy of your essay for us to read, who's to say you didn't deserve the two?

markop2003

[QUOTE="Kenny789"][QUOTE="ExGabu"]

Do you go to public school?

ExGabu

I would take this up with the top right away... this jackass needs a kick in the teeth... as long as you followed directions and turned the paper in on time, you should have received a perfect score...

Screw your professor... go over his head and have him punished and your grade changed...

If that's all you wrote, and you were supposed to write an essay, than she was being generous in giving you 2/5. An essay has to be longer than one paragraph.MichBelle

I would take this up with the top right away... this jackass needs a kick in the teeth... as long as you followed directions and turned the paper in on time, you should have received a perfect score...

Screw your professor... go over his head and have him punished and your grade changed...

heysharpshooter

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

I would take this up with the top right away... this jackass needs a kick in the teeth... as long as you followed directions and turned the paper in on time, you should have received a perfect score...

Screw your professor... go over his head and have him punished and your grade changed...

surrealnumber5

Thats why I added "as long as you followed directions and turned the paper in on time"... as long as he did do those 2 things, the paper should have received a perfect score... if TC informs that he did not do those 2 things, then he is out of luck...

All I am saying is, if the teacher docked him points for his answers like that, he needs to lose his job... and for the record, I am pro choice...

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

I would take this up with the top right away... this jackass needs a kick in the teeth... as long as you followed directions and turned the paper in on time, you should have received a perfect score...

Screw your professor... go over his head and have him punished and your grade changed...

heysharpshooter

Thats why I added "as long as you followed directions and turned the paper in on time"... as long as he did do those 2 things, the paper should have received a perfect score... if TC informs that he did not do those 2 things, then he is out of luck...

All I am saying is, if the teacher docked him points for his answers like that, he needs to lose his job... and for the record, I am pro choice...

and for the record, i have a penis so abortion has nothing to do with me.

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] we do not know how good the paper actually was, an on time paper should not get a perfect score for just being on time. you are making a lot of assumptions and if TC acts like you think he/she should it will only make the teacher grade him/her harder in the future. the best way to deal with people is never to make their life harder and what you are advocating will only be returned 10 fold on the TC. A side comment does not mean causation and even if it did doing what you are suggesting is the worst plan of action.

surrealnumber5

Thats why I added "as long as you followed directions and turned the paper in on time"... as long as he did do those 2 things, the paper should have received a perfect score... if TC informs that he did not do those 2 things, then he is out of luck...

All I am saying is, if the teacher docked him points for his answers like that, he needs to lose his job... and for the record, I am pro choice...

and for the record, i have a penis so abortion has nothing to do with me.

You are aware pro-choice means I am for a womans right to chose... you seem to be a bit confused...

The teacher should never have added that comment... it leaves the papers score up to major interpetation and could lead to a lawsuit... even if the professor did not dock him points for giving pro-life ansewers, he is still an idiot for writing a comment like that and should be fired anyway...

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

Thats why I added "as long as you followed directions and turned the paper in on time"... as long as he did do those 2 things, the paper should have received a perfect score... if TC informs that he did not do those 2 things, then he is out of luck...

All I am saying is, if the teacher docked him points for his answers like that, he needs to lose his job... and for the record, I am pro choice...

heysharpshooter

and for the record, i have a penis so abortion has nothing to do with me.

You are aware pro-choice means I am for a womans right to chose... you seem to be a bit confused...

The teacher should never have added that comment... it leaves the papers score up to major interpetation and could lead to a lawsuit... even if the professor did not dock him points for giving pro-life ansewers, he is still an idiot for writing a comment like that and should be fired anyway...

this has nothing to do with the paper to you, you just have an ax to grind, even if it were a public school, and it is not, the grading of essay's is left of to the digressions of the teacher/professor. there is no law suit to be had here.

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] no crap youre pro-choice, you want to get someone fired because they disagree with you, TC said it was a quiz, those are not take home projects for the most part. they are givin to students in **** the paper had to be on time if it was turned in at all. the quality of the work is what an essay quiz is graded on, not how well directions are followed. i dont know where where TC but every teacher i have had does not care about how well you follow directions, if you dont support your point your score is going to suck.

and for the record, i have a penis so abortion has nothing to do with me.

surrealnumber5

You are aware pro-choice means I am for a womans right to chose... you seem to be a bit confused...

The teacher should never have added that comment... it leaves the papers score up to major interpetation and could lead to a lawsuit... even if the professor did not dock him points for giving pro-life ansewers, he is still an idiot for writing a comment like that and should be fired anyway...

this has nothing to do with the paper to you, you just have an ax to grind, even if it were a public school, and it is not, the grading of essay's is left of to the digressions of the teacher/professor. there is no law suit to be had here.

But the interpretation of why he received the grade is now clouded... had the professor wrote nothing on the paper and given him a 2/5, then there is no room for interpretation... adding a comment like "I hope you change your mind" suddenly opens up the possability that the grade was altered because a teacher does not like the content of the answer for political or religious reasons... which is a sue-able offense(yes, I just made a word up)

I had a similar thing happen to me in High School in my mythology class, when I did an essay on the Bible Epic... treating the Bible as myth offended my teacher greatly, as she was very religious, and she failed me on that paper, writing a comment that I should join her for Church sometime on the back page... I immediatly went to the prinicpal, who reprimanded the teacher, altered my grade, and called my mother in to discuss "legal issues"... namely, I was in a position to sue the school...

Public or private is irrelevant... if anything, TC might be able to get back every penny he has spent on tuition...

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

You are aware pro-choice means I am for a womans right to chose... you seem to be a bit confused...

The teacher should never have added that comment... it leaves the papers score up to major interpetation and could lead to a lawsuit... even if the professor did not dock him points for giving pro-life ansewers, he is still an idiot for writing a comment like that and should be fired anyway...

heysharpshooter

this has nothing to do with the paper to you, you just have an ax to grind, even if it were a public school, and it is not, the grading of essay's is left of to the digressions of the teacher/professor. there is no law suit to be had here.

But the interpretation of why he received the grade is now clouded... had the professor wrote nothing on the paper and given him a 2/5, then there is no room for interpretation... adding a comment like "I hope you change your mind" suddenly opens up the possability that the grade was altered because a teacher does not like the content of the answer for political or religious reasons... which is a sue-able offense(yes, I just made a word up)

I had a similar thing happen to me in High School in my mythology **** when I did an essay on the Bible Epic... treating the Bible as myth offended my teacher greatly, as she was very religious, and she failed me on that paper, writing a comment that I should join her for Church sometime on the back page... I immediatly went to the prinicpal, who reprimanded the teacher, altered my grade, and called my mother in to discuss "legal issues"... namely, I was in a position to sue the school...

Public or private is irrelevant... if anything, TC might be able to get back every penny he has spent on tuition...

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

this has nothing to do with the paper to you, you just have an ax to grind, even if it were a public school, and it is not, the grading of essay's is left of to the digressions of the teacher/professor. there is no law suit to be had here.

surrealnumber5

But the interpretation of why he received the grade is now clouded... had the professor wrote nothing on the paper and given him a 2/5, then there is no room for interpretation... adding a comment like "I hope you change your mind" suddenly opens up the possability that the grade was altered because a teacher does not like the content of the answer for political or religious reasons... which is a sue-able offense(yes, I just made a word up)

I had a similar thing happen to me in High School in my mythology **** when I did an essay on the Bible Epic... treating the Bible as myth offended my teacher greatly, as she was very religious, and she failed me on that paper, writing a comment that I should join her for Church sometime on the back page... I immediatly went to the prinicpal, who reprimanded the teacher, altered my grade, and called my mother in to discuss "legal issues"... namely, I was in a position to sue the school...

Public or private is irrelevant... if anything, TC might be able to get back every penny he has spent on tuition...

He is marking them down on a opinion the teacher doesn't agree with.. Its one thing for the teacher not to agree with them.. Its quite another to have their grade negatively affected by something that is a matter of opinion and a wedge issue.

My first question to you would be whether or not you attend a private/religous school. If you are a religous school then perhaps it's relevant, but if you are at a public school, then that question is completely inappropriate. It's one thing to discuss, but grading someone based on personal ethics is not wise at a public institution.

My first question to you would be whether or not you attend a private/religous school. If you are a religous school then perhaps it's relevant, but if you are at a public school, then that question is completely inappropriate. It's one thing to discuss, but grading someone based on personal ethics is not wise at a public institution.

sonicare

Unethical and inappropriate BUT is it illegal?

[QUOTE="sonicare"]

My first question to you would be whether or not you attend a private/religous school. If you are a religous school then perhaps it's relevant, but if you are at a public school, then that question is completely inappropriate. It's one thing to discuss, but grading someone based on personal ethics is not wise at a public institution.

DroidPhysX

Unethical and inappropriate BUT is it illegal?

You should have just said, "I'm a guy..." and been done with it.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="heysharpshooter"]

But the interpretation of why he received the grade is now clouded... had the professor wrote nothing on the paper and given him a 2/5, then there is no room for interpretation... adding a comment like "I hope you change your mind" suddenly opens up the possability that the grade was altered because a teacher does not like the content of the answer for political or religious reasons... which is a sue-able offense(yes, I just made a word up)

I had a similar thing happen to me in High School in my mythology **** when I did an essay on the Bible Epic... treating the Bible as myth offended my teacher greatly, as she was very religious, and she failed me on that paper, writing a comment that I should join her for Church sometime on the back page... I immediatly went to the prinicpal, who reprimanded the teacher, altered my grade, and called my mother in to discuss "legal issues"... namely, I was in a position to sue the school...

Public or private is irrelevant... if anything, TC might be able to get back every penny he has spent on tuition...

sSubZerOo

He is marking them down on a opinion the teacher doesn't agree with.. Its one thing for the teacher not to agree with them.. Its quite another to have their grade negatively affected by something that is a matter of opinion and a wedge issue.

Your professor sounds like an ass.Chojuto

You should write back to her that you hope she and her good friend Shirley Phelps have a good time together protesting a funeral over the weekend.

[QUOTE="ExGabu"]

Do you go to public school?

Kenny789

Depends on how private schools are now.

Had I answer "abort" at ST Francis I would have been beaten or something.

That question though.

It's hard to imagine ever being happy if you have a baby to always remind you of what happened..and how would you ever explain to it who the real father was?..I feel bad but I would choose abort.

With so many people not able to have kids and stuff i'm suprised you didnt say you would go through with and put it up for adoption? It's better than to kill an innocent baby.

With so many people not able to have kids and stuff i'm suprised you didnt say you would go through with and put it up for adoption? It's better than to kill an innocent baby.

JJGT500

I thought the Supreme Court clarified the notion that a fetus is not a person let alone a baby.

Your professor sounds like an ass.Chojuto

[QUOTE="Chojuto"]Your professor sounds like an ass.curono

[QUOTE="JJGT500"]

With so many people not able to have kids and stuff i'm suprised you didnt say you would go through with and put it up for adoption? It's better than to kill an innocent baby.

DroidPhysX

I thought the Supreme Court clarified the notion that a fetus is not ****fied as a person let alone a baby.

[QUOTE="curono"][QUOTE="Chojuto"]Your professor sounds like an ass.surrealnumber5

It's very possible, but seeing how the TC said he was the only person (as far as he knew) that answered "no" is a bit suggestive in and of itself. Which is why I suggested finding out what sort of scores other students got. If everyone who answered "yes" and gave a complete answer, by that I mean answered yes or no and followed it up with a sentence or two to explain, got higher scores then it becomes highly likely the teacher was grading based on personal opinion and not the merits of the answer itself.

This is a serious issue in ANY school. People seem to have this false idea that private schools can do whatever they want. They still have to meet teaching standards set by state and federal guidelines (at least in the United States).

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

[QUOTE="JJGT500"]

With so many people not able to have kids and stuff i'm suprised you didnt say you would go through with and put it up for adoption? It's better than to kill an innocent baby.

sonicare

I thought the Supreme Court clarified the notion that a fetus is not ****fied as a person let alone a baby.

With so many people not able to have kids and stuff i'm suprised you didnt say you would go through with and put it up for adoption? It's better than to kill an innocent baby.

JJGT500