Did I deserve this? (Somewhat abortion related)

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="curono"] A genuine one on top of it.keech

It's very possible, but seeing how the TC said he was the only person (as far as he knew) that answered "no" is a bit suggestive in and of itself. Which is why I suggested finding out what sort of scores other students got. If everyone who answered "yes" and gave a complete answer, by that I mean answered yes or no and followed it up with a sentence or two to explain, got higher scores then it becomes highly likely the teacher was grading based on personal opinion and not the merits of the answer itself.

This is a serious issue in ANY school. People seem to have this false idea that private schools can do whatever they want. They still have to meet teaching standards set by state and federal guidelines (at least in the United States).

If you lost marks because of your professor's opinion being different (and it sounds a lot like it) then that's complete and utter bull****. Go ask him/her what the whole point of these open-ended questions is if only one direction's even valid.

Well, there are number of factors that I may be unaware of that contributed to that mark. That being said, if the low mark was just due to your opinion on abortion, then that teacher is being unethical and should be fired. Seriously, report his ass, that kind of question has no buisness being on a quiz.

Because there is no correct answer for a moral question like that your teacher had no right to take 3 points off unless it was because of spelling or poor sentences...

EDIT: sorry I thought it was a public school because I only read the original post before replying. Considering it's a catholic school I can imagine you losing points for that. I don't know much about the catholic religion, but I'm just going to assume they look down on abortion and that's why you lost points... Private Religious school are kinda iffy IMO... I was watching the Richard Dawkins God Delusion movie and when he went to the christian school and looked at there Science Curriculum I was truely Horrified...

Do you go to some bible school or what?

I would go to higher ups and complain... That is completely ridiculous that:

1) There would even be a question like that...

2) Despite it being an answer based entirely on your own opinion, with no right or wrong answer... You are marked wrong and chastised for what you said...

Professor sounds like a real evangelical nutcase... Handing out grades based on how Christian your answer is... To hell with that.

Well, there are number of factors that I may be unaware of that contributed to that mark. That being said, if the low mark was just due to your opinion on abortion, then that teacher is being unethical and should be fired. Seriously, report his ass, that kind of question has no buisness being on a quiz.

redstorm72

[QUOTE="Kenny789"]

Had a quiz the other day regarding abortion and the last part was an essay test wherein the question and situation goes like this: "After finishing your exams, you went out with your friends to a nightclub and had a good time. Afterwards, on your way home, you were raped and confirmed to be pregnant. Would you continue your pregnancy?".

I thought about it long and hard and really imagined myself in that situation and thought "I don't think I can do it" so I answered "No" and said "I am not prepared and not in a situation where I can support my child properly and raise him up". I even admitted that it would be very hard for me to do so but I just can't go on with the pregnancy. We got our papers back today and I only got 2/5 for that part and my prof wrote a note saying "I hope time comes where you will change your mind". It's bothering me a bit since I feel I didn't deserve the 2 points. I was being completely honest and thought I was entitled to my own thoughts and opinion and deserved higher.

Anyway, do you guys think I deserved the score?

magicalclick

No, report this to principle, if that doesn't work, get a lawyer. He cannot , I repeat, CANNOT, judge you by your argument. He can only ONLY judge you by your grammer and organization of the paper (of course, you have to be in a public school. Private schools are immuned for this type of law suits).

DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT, talk about the arugment of the question. That's not the point. She cannot take points out because she doesn't agree with you. It is all about grammar and etc. She should have been smart enough to say, you need more supporting arguments to be convincing. That's legit.But, she failed.

The correct answer is "Since I'm a virgin and pregnant it means I'm giving birth to the second coming of Christ so I'd go through with it."

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]i dont think we are being told the whole story, the essay may just be bad. i think that is more likely than a professor giving everyone that says keep the baby a 5/5 and everyone who says trash it a 2/5surrealnumber5

It's very possible, but seeing how the TC said he was the only person (as far as he knew) that answered "no" is a bit suggestive in and of itself. Which is why I suggested finding out what sort of scores other students got. If everyone who answered "yes" and gave a complete answer, by that I mean answered yes or no and followed it up with a sentence or two to explain, got higher scores then it becomes highly likely the teacher was grading based on personal opinion and not the merits of the answer itself.

This is a serious issue in ANY school. People seem to have this false idea that private schools can do whatever they want. They still have to meet teaching standards set by state and federal guidelines (at least in the United States).

I feel the need to point out Occam's razor would suggest otherwise. According to the razor, a poor answer receiving a low score is just as plausible as a low score based on biased opinion on the subject matter. However, It's exceedingly unlikely that the seemingly one student that answered in the minority gets one of. or possibly the lowest score without biased inclinations on the part of the person giving the score. The odds are heavily stacked against the notion that the one pro-choice student in the class is also at the lowest end of the class curve.

[QUOTE="redstorm72"]

Well, there are number of factors that I may be unaware of that contributed to that mark. That being said, if the low mark was just due to your opinion on abortion, then that teacher is being unethical and should be fired. Seriously, report his ass, that kind of question has no buisness being on a quiz.

surrealnumber5

It's pretty horrible to continue a rape pregnancy because it passes the rapists genes on and the kids produced are more likely to rape, on top of being ugly and stupid which most rapist tend to be.

It's pretty horrible to continue a rape pregnancy because it passes the rapists genes on and the kids produced are more likely to rape, on top of being ugly and stupid which most rapist tend to be.

With-Hatred

[QUOTE="With-Hatred"]

It's pretty horrible to continue a rape pregnancy because it passes the rapists genes on and the kids produced are more likely to rape, on top of being ugly and stupid which most rapist tend to be.

XilePrincess

Also, don't use single cases to judge larger issues, one person doing something does not equal a trend. I'm pretty sure Roofies were invented as a pain killer and anesthetic but were turned down by the FDA.

A dog is capable of stalking prey, animals with brains the size of walnuts are capable of stalking prey, and even insects, it's not something that requires alot of brain activity.

[QUOTE="JJGT500"]

With so many people not able to have kids and stuff i'm suprised you didnt say you would go through with and put it up for adoption? It's better than to kill an innocent baby.

DroidPhysX

I thought the Supreme Court clarified the notion that a fetus is not a person let alone a baby.

Actually....it is largely genetic, people who are more likely to rape pass their genes on to children who are also more likely to rape. On top of that Organisms, not just humans generally use rape as a last resort to reproduction when they fail to have proper genes to impress the opposite sex (generally this is the male). Those traits often being physical appearance or mental inadequacies.

Also, don't use single cases to judge larger issues, one person doing something does not equal a trend. I'm pretty sure Roofies were invented as a pain killer and anesthetic but were turned down by the FDA.

A dog is capable of stalking prey, animals with brains the size of walnuts are capable of stalking prey, and even insects, it's not something that requires alot of brain activity.

With-Hatred

Quote your source then. Because every single source I've found says NO, it's not genetic. If there's any influence from parents, it's influence from being around the person, the same way a child with a drug addicted parent is more likely to become addicted to drugs because they've spent a large amount of time with an addict. The only possible link I have found is that children who are rape babies often grow up with difficult and dysfunctional lives, and get into bad things which may lead them to do something like rape.

I find it absolutely hilarious that you're more or less stating that nerds, losers, weirdos, ugly people and people who fail at social interaction are automatically more likely to rape somebody. OT has a population of which the majority is one or more of: socially awkward people, nerds, weird, creepy or not regarded as attractive by the general population, amongst other things of the same nature. Hands up, OT, how many of y'all have raped somebody, just 'cause you're frustrated that the ladies don't flock to you? Oh, none of you? That's what I thought.

We're not savages. What the hell makes you think that in civilized society, everyone who isn't in constant demand to be mated with will rape somebody? We're not animals, either. Like I said, we're civilized. Dogs might hump anything that moves, but people are generally a bit more evolved than that.

And yes, I'm aware that roofies were not created by somebody saying "Jeez, I'd really like to rape somebody and not get caught, imma make a drug so I can do that". That's just what they're generally used for now.

Your teacher shouldn't be teaching. Simple as that. :? Ninja-Hippo

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[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] the teacher did not put "i hope you find god before you kill a baby 2/5" it only said "i hope you change your mind" political standing is not a protected **** if anything the TC should learn to wright to your audience. and technically for a grade to be "altered" it would have had to of had a pre-existing grade to alter.

surrealnumber5

He is marking them down on a opinion the teacher doesn't agree with.. Its one thing for the teacher not to agree with them.. Its quite another to have their grade negatively affected by something that is a matter of opinion and a wedge issue.

When he got 2/5 it is pretty much assumed it was for that specific question.. Though the poster may have not been clear.

All i read was you saying "I hate babies"

ExGabu

i would say you didnt deserve that and tell your prof to go screw herself, but, with the position your in, your better off to just take the 2 and tell your friends to avoid taking classes from her in the future, from the sounds of it youd have to escalate the issue past her and possibly to a higher authority if you really wanted to challenge it and with the ammount of time somethign like that would take youd be better off studying or doing something else then trying to fight for the marks

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"]

[QUOTE="redstorm72"]

Well, there are number of factors that I may be unaware of that contributed to that mark. That being said, if the low mark was just due to your opinion on abortion, then that teacher is being unethical and should be fired. Seriously, report his ass, that kind of question has no buisness being on a quiz.

SkyWard20

[QUOTE="curono"][QUOTE="Chojuto"]Your professor sounds like an ass.surrealnumber5

5/5 answer is " I have a gun on me at all times and either the rapist or I would have died that night" surrealnumber5

LOL :D made my day

Do you go to some bible school or what?

I would go to higher ups and complain... That is completely ridiculous that:

1) There would even be a question like that...

2) Despite it being an answer based entirely on your own opinion, with no right or wrong answer... You are marked wrong and chastised for what you said...

Professor sounds like a real evangelical nutcase... Handing out grades based on how Christian your answer is... To hell with that.

So according to you guys, eating animals is bad, but killing babies is alright?

So according to you guys, eating animals is bad, but killing babies is alright?

dunl12496

Haha, i get it. You typed in babies on puprose instead of fetus. Sly devil you.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="curono"] A genuine one on top of it.MetalGear_Ninty

Update for those interested: I talked with my professor and she told me that the total score for the essay part was only 3 points meaning I got 2/3. I thought it was out of 5 since most of our other essays are out of 5 to 10 points. I guess she was just a bit disappointed that I chose to abort (despite being a guy, yes I know it's weird) but respected my view. Anyway, 2/3 is not bad and I'm sorry I gave the notion that I got marked down. I thought I did but it seems it wasn't a major part of the quiz.Kenny789

[QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"][QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] i dont think we are being told the whole story, the essay may just be bad. i think that is more likely than a professor giving everyone that says keep the baby a 5/5 and everyone who says trash it a 2/5surrealnumber5

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"] Yeah, because any story that paints a 'pro-lifer' in a bad light must be false by default, huh? :roll:MetalGear_Ninty

Lol, the note sound suspicious. But it is a Catholic school, so I'm not surprised that it would be there.

love the fact your teacher is trying to "guilt" you, after asking you a question you gave an honest answer about. sickening if this is real