Did Romney lose your vote when he stood against

Mittens is a scrub. Who da fvck does he even appeal to?

Not really. He's still better than that Obama guy... >_>The-Apostle

This election is gonna suck balls

They're both terrible choices i can't see myself voting at all. RonPaul would have been a nice option, i'm not sure why they have chosen Romney he's not exactly the kind of symbol they should be backing. Multimillion over i think 100+ rich CEO guy and he's a terrible speaker.

They're both terrible choices i can't see myself voting at all. RonPaul would have been a nice option, i'm not sure why they have chosen Romney he's not exactly the kind of symbol they should be backing. Multimillion over i think 100+ rich CEO guy and he's a terrible speaker.

TwistedShade

I don't really care about image, but I have no idea how we waisted an opportunity to get Ron Paul in the White House. In a less dangerous election, people probably would have played it safe and voted for someone more familiar (i.e. not Ron Paul), but by the sheer horror of Obama's political and moral philosophy Ron Paul would have had a good chance. I am still hacked off at the vast majority of Republicans and conservatives for being retarded.

Pertinent article:

Mitt Romney's Wimp Factor

It covers the flip-flopping as well as other things.

One of the reasons I think Romney is going to lose is because the President projects alot more confidence than Romney does and I think confidence matters alot more than people might think.

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Everything that he use to stand for?

[spoiler] what a joke this election is turning out to be. :( [/spoiler]

whipassmt

All politicians flip flop a little (even Ron Paul), but Romney takes it to a whole new level and no, he's not just changing his mind. The flip flops are done out of politcal expediency. The funny thing is that the flip flops cause him more long term problems than actually taking a firm stance would.

It's a fact that no candidate can be 100% different. No doubt, candidates will share similar viewpoints and maybe even similar methods.

So I'll probably end up voting for Gary Johnson. Or maybe Obama? Can't believe I would consider that. :?

leviathan91

Why would you vote for an independent canidate? they never win. Even though I don't really love either canidate, I'll vote for the one I like more, so that my vote even counts. I just never understood these people who take a symbolic stance and vote for a canidate who has no hope; that's what gave this country to Bush for 8 years.

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]It is funny listening to him say he wants to repeal Obamacare and then go through the list of things he wants to replace it with, which are all included in Obamacare.sonicare

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It's a fact that no candidate can be 100% different. No doubt, candidates will share similar viewpoints and maybe even similar methods.

So I'll probably end up voting for Gary Johnson. Or maybe Obama? Can't believe I would consider that. :?

Tokugawa77

Why would you vote for an independent canidate? they never win. Even though I don't really love either canidate, I'll vote for the one I like more, so that my vote even counts. I just never understood these people who take a symbolic stance and vote for a canidate who has no hope; that's what gave this country to Bush for 8 years.

Election 2012: Arsenic vs Cyanide.

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]The Republican party needs to be taken out back and shot.. Evangelicals, Tea Party, Neo Cons.. Are the cancer that has taken over the party and have turned them into gigantic hypocrites Socijalisticka

That feel when Republicans used to be whigs:(.

The battle of idiots

Romney is an idiot

Obama is an idiot that cost the country 5 trillion dollars

Yep, its more who can screw up the country less for me

[QUOTE="DaBrainz"]It is funny listening to him say he wants to repeal Obamacare and then go through the list of things he wants to replace it with, which are all included in Obamacare.sonicare

Doesn't seem like you know much about the issue either if you think the "only thing it may do is pay the providers less money for the same services."

Even if that was the only thing negative effect that obamacare caused you do realize that is a disincentive to join the healthcare industry and at a time when millions more Americans will be covered than before practically overnight.

By the looks of the top two candidates this election, nothing is going to get better no matter who wins.

The healthcare will be relatively the same if Romney is elected - the economy will be the same - etc, etc.

I didn't plan on voting for either (Romney/Obama) - Ron Paul is still getting my vote... (I'm optimistic)

I still wonder what the Paulbots expect Ron will actually do if by some miracle he were to actually win the White House.

I still wonder what the Paulbots expect Ron will actually do if by some miracle he were to actually win the White House.

worlock77

I think it's more of a symbolic stance against the two cookie cutter options that we are being presented by the main political parties. I, for one, won't be voting at all. It's worthless, since I don't really think either candidate is worth backing.

neither one of them is getting a vote out of me. It's like picking from two piles of sh!t on plates, one of them is on fire, and the other is warm and runny

I wonder if Mitt wears the Magic Underwear.

I still wonder what the Paulbots expect Ron will actually do if by some miracle he were to actually win the White House.

worlock77

What wouldn't he do?

Never had my vote to begin with.

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I still wonder what the Paulbots expect Ron will actually do if by some miracle he were to actually win the White House.

sexyweapons

What wouldn't he do?

Pretty much everything his supporters claim he would do.

kinda hard to lose something I've never had.

I still wonder what the Paulbots expect Ron will actually do if by some miracle he were to actually win the White House.

worlock77

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I still wonder what the Paulbots expect Ron will actually do if by some miracle he were to actually win the White House.

mingmao3046

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I still wonder what the Paulbots expect Ron will actually do if by some miracle he were to actually win the White House.

mingmao3046

He could. But the political capital it would cost him would render the rest of his presidency useless.

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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

I still wonder what the Paulbots expect Ron will actually do if by some miracle he were to actually win the White House.

worlock77

What wouldn't he do?

Pretty much everything his supporters claim he would do.

oh com'on that's the same with every politician,just look at Obama and all his promises

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What wouldn't he do?

sexyweapons

Pretty much everything his supporters claim he would do.

oh com'on that's the same with every politician,just look at Obama and all his promises

He's upheld quite a lot of them. And he, at least, has a chance at getting his campaign promises through because he has a solid base of support in the legislature. Ron Paul does not.

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Pretty much everything his supporters claim he would do.

worlock77

oh com'on that's the same with every politician,just look at Obama and all his promises

He's upheld quite a lot of them. And he, at least, has a chance at getting his campaign promises through because he has a solid base of support in the legislature. Ron Paul does not.

yeah,but he's broken some of his biggest like halving the deficit by the end of his first term.

State =/= federal

State =/= federal

Chutebox

That is pure damage control.

[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="DaBrainz"]It is funny listening to him say he wants to repeal Obamacare and then go through the list of things he wants to replace it with, which are all included in Obamacare.mattbbpl

I'm not sure how this type of misinformation spreads so pervasively.

Oh, and on topic, the Republicans lost it shortly after 2008 when they adopted the Tea Party nonsense.

you know this is the kind of thing that makes me happy Canada opposed Fox News coming in and doing business.

If Romney flipped again and promised to push every single thing I personally support, I still wouldn't vote for him - just knowing that he's a fraud and a liar and that he would never actually see anything that he promised through.

I still wonder what the Paulbots expect Ron will actually do if by some miracle he were to actually win the White House.

worlock77

I'm casting my vote now and getting it overwith

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oh com'on that's the same with every politician,just look at Obama and all his promises

sexyweapons

He's upheld quite a lot of them. And he, at least, has a chance at getting his campaign promises through because he has a solid base of support in the legislature. Ron Paul does not.

yeah,but he's broken some of his biggest like halving the deficit by the end of his first term.

Not necessarily a pledge he ever would have been able to keep. But you're deflecting the topic. My question was not about Barack Obama, it was about Ron Paul. What do you honestly expect Paul would do as President?

Nope. He lost my vote because he is a politican. Both candidates are hypocrites that say whatever to get elected. maheo30

1.So when Obama came out in support of gay marriage, something no other president dared to do, he did it for votes? Many predicted that it would actually hurt his chances.

2.Obama has also staunchly (even threatening a veto and the fiscal cliff) come out against allowing further tax cuts for the rich. Don't you think it would be more politically expedient to pander to the rich to gain the campaign donations?

3. Obama has relentlessly pursued his attempt to change healthcare in America and is unapologetic about it. This despite the constant assault on it that has led public opinion away from the proposals from the start. His own aides even told him to back down to avoid a political backlash and he refused.

Obama, though not perfect by any means, has shown himself to be someone who is going to fight for what he believes is right, regardless of the political fallout. Romney, on the otherhand has barely laid out a policy position aside from, "I will fix everything and everyone will be happy."

Better to be a rump humper then a bible thumper.

[QUOTE="maheo30"]Nope. He lost my vote because he is a politican. Both candidates are hypocrites that say whatever to get elected. EntropyWins

1.So when Obama came out in support of gay marriage, something no other president dared to do, he did it for votes? Many predicted that it would actually hurt his chances.

2.Obama has also staunchly (even threatening a veto and the fiscal cliff) come out against allowing further tax cuts for the rich. Don't you think it would be more politically expedient to pander to the rich to gain the campaign donations?

3. Obama has relentlessly pursued his attempt to change healthcare in America and is unapologetic about it. This despite the constant assault on it that has led public opinion away from the proposals from the start. His own aides even told him to back down to avoid a political backlash and he refused.

Obama, though not perfect by any means, has shown himself to be someone who is going to fight for what he believes is right, regardless of the political fallout. Romney, on the otherhand has barely laid out a policy position aside from, "I will fix everything and everyone will be happy."

Tho I think there are some caveats you didn't acknowledge in that post, there is no doubt that Obama has alot more conviction than Romney.

Ill vote for Romney just to get Obama out of office.mohfrontline

[QUOTE="mohfrontline"]Ill vote for Romney just to get Obama out of office.YoshiYogurt

Sadly enough, voting for Romney just to get Obama out of office is probably the best reason to vote for him. Since his business record doesn't really inspire confidence in his ability to do what's right for the country, and he won't talk about his record as Governor of Massachusetts (and it's not really anything to brag aout anyway), he really has nothing going for him besides anti-Obama sentiment.

[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="mohfrontline"]Ill vote for Romney just to get Obama out of office.GreySeal9

Sadly enough, voting for Romney just to get Obama out of office is probably the best reason to vote for him. Since his business record doesn't really inspire confidence in his ability to do what's right for the country, and he won't talk about his record as Governor of Massachusetts (and it's not really anything to brag aout anyway), he really has nothing going for him besides anti-Obama sentiment.

It's pretty much 2004 again, only flip-flopped. In 2004 the Democrats had a weak candidate who's campaign was "I'm not the incumbent". This year the Republicans have a weak candidate who's campaign is "I'm not the incumbent".