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I think you should be able to physically discipline your children, but to a certain extent... Hitting a chid on the bottom is fair enough, but hitting them with something like a stick is taking it too far.TheLordRagnarokHitting with a stck is not too far. Only when there are noticable signs on the kid is too far
[QUOTE="TheLordRagnarok"]I think you should be able to physically discipline your children, but to a certain extent... Hitting a chid on the bottom is fair enough, but hitting them with something like a stick is taking it too far.1337_ownageHitting with a stck is not too far. Only when there are noticable signs on the kid is too far
No, if you get mad enough you feel that yer hand can't hit hard enough, you need to chill.
[QUOTE="TheLordRagnarok"]I think you should be able to physically discipline your children, but to a certain extent... Hitting a chid on the bottom is fair enough, but hitting them with something like a stick is taking it too far.1337_ownageHitting with a stck is not too far. Only when there are noticable signs on the kid is too far}
I would never hit my kid with a stick..
tough I would spank them in the bottom...
Hitting with a stck is not too far. Only when there are noticable signs on the kid is too far[QUOTE="1337_ownage"][QUOTE="TheLordRagnarok"]I think you should be able to physically discipline your children, but to a certain extent... Hitting a chid on the bottom is fair enough, but hitting them with something like a stick is taking it too far.CheezyFrog
No, if you get mad enough you feel that yer hand can't hit hard enough, you need to chill.
Using the hand is actually more dangerous than using the switch.
I reallly think you need to re-word your question....
Hard to understand
BigDizz
Seriously lol.
And it's silly what is going on.
They want our kids to be disciplined etc but they don't want us to discipline them. I don't know, this country is getting ridiculous.
I didn't vote as your question is unclear and seems a bit contradictory.
Parents today are wimps. My mom kicked my ass in line from the get go and didn't take any ****. From my earliest memories she was very strict. Physical punishment wasn't necessary because she would take away my privileges if I acted up and make living with the family miserable. I had to work in the yard (a three acre farm) weed whippping, chopping down trees, etc, which was mandatory and constant. If I did well she was fair and rewarded me. My dad spanked me occasionally when I was younger, but I laughed when he would do it which pissed him off even more. From then on my mom kicked my behind into shape and didn't take any crap at any level, and I'm very grateful for it today.
Smacking around your kids is unnecessary and wrong, in my opinion. I don't think it should be legal. Parents should never have to resort to using pain as a preventative measure.bman784
You can't try to have a symposium with your 4 year old child when they're screaming in McDonalds or the Greocery store. You definately can't negotiate, because that shows weakness, and obviously tells them that what they are doing is right.
You're a part of the problem.
[QUOTE="bman784"]Smacking around your kids is unnecessary and wrong, in my opinion. I don't think it should be legal. Parents should never have to resort to using pain as a preventative measure.-R3Vo
You can't try to have a symposium with your 4 year old child when they're screaming in McDonalds or the Greocery store. You definately can't negotiate, because that shows weakness, and obviously tells them that what they are doing is right.
You're a part of the problem.
So you resort to causing them pain? I don't buy it. You can take away their privileges, or prevent them from getting things they want. There are plenty of methods of showing them negative consequences without abuse.[QUOTE="-R3Vo"][QUOTE="bman784"]Smacking around your kids is unnecessary and wrong, in my opinion. I don't think it should be legal. Parents should never have to resort to using pain as a preventative measure.bman784
You can't try to have a symposium with your 4 year old child when they're screaming in McDonalds or the Greocery store. You definately can't negotiate, because that shows weakness, and obviously tells them that what they are doing is right.
You're a part of the problem.
So you resort to causing them pain? I don't buy it. You can take away their privileges, or prevent them from getting things they want. There are plenty of methods of showing them negative consequences without abuse.You act as if they're trying to break their arm... It's a smack on their bottom, releasing hormones and letting them know that they don't control you.
[QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="-R3Vo"][QUOTE="bman784"]Smacking around your kids is unnecessary and wrong, in my opinion. I don't think it should be legal. Parents should never have to resort to using pain as a preventative measure.-R3Vo
You can't try to have a symposium with your 4 year old child when they're screaming in McDonalds or the Greocery store. You definately can't negotiate, because that shows weakness, and obviously tells them that what they are doing is right.
You're a part of the problem.
So you resort to causing them pain? I don't buy it. You can take away their privileges, or prevent them from getting things they want. There are plenty of methods of showing them negative consequences without abuse.You act as if they're trying to break their arm... It's a smack on their bottom, releasing hormones and letting them know that they don't control you.
You can let them know that they don't control you by not caving in to their demands, and showing some resolve. It's much more viable to provide deterrence by means of a reasonable conclusion, as opposed to deterrence by means of fear.[QUOTE="-R3Vo"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="-R3Vo"][QUOTE="bman784"]Smacking around your kids is unnecessary and wrong, in my opinion. I don't think it should be legal. Parents should never have to resort to using pain as a preventative measure.bman784
You can't try to have a symposium with your 4 year old child when they're screaming in McDonalds or the Greocery store. You definately can't negotiate, because that shows weakness, and obviously tells them that what they are doing is right.
You're a part of the problem.
So you resort to causing them pain? I don't buy it. You can take away their privileges, or prevent them from getting things they want. There are plenty of methods of showing them negative consequences without abuse.You act as if they're trying to break their arm... It's a smack on their bottom, releasing hormones and letting them know that they don't control you.
You can let them know that they don't control you by not caving in to their demands, and showing some resolve. It's much more viable to provide deterrence by means of a reasonable conclusion, as opposed to deterrence by means of fear.Weak dude, weak... I would love to see you as a parent, most people with you're state of mind always cave in when things don't turn out how they imagined it would. Deterrence would just provide a anti-social child, worse than physical abuse IMO.
[QUOTE="-R3Vo"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="-R3Vo"][QUOTE="bman784"]Smacking around your kids is unnecessary and wrong, in my opinion. I don't think it should be legal. Parents should never have to resort to using pain as a preventative measure.bman784
You can't try to have a symposium with your 4 year old child when they're screaming in McDonalds or the Greocery store. You definately can't negotiate, because that shows weakness, and obviously tells them that what they are doing is right.
You're a part of the problem.
So you resort to causing them pain? I don't buy it. You can take away their privileges, or prevent them from getting things they want. There are plenty of methods of showing them negative consequences without abuse.You act as if they're trying to break their arm... It's a smack on their bottom, releasing hormones and letting them know that they don't control you.
You can let them know that they don't control you by not caving in to their demands, and showing some resolve. It's much more viable to provide deterrence by means of a reasonable conclusion, as opposed to deterrence by means of fear.Agreed. On another note, anyone that hits their child is telling them that aggression is acceptable. Good parenting? I think not.
My parents didn't hit me once, but didn't cave in and gave me firm consequences, to the point that I learned not to misbehave early on. There are a ton of parents who don't resort to causing pain, and can have just as effective, if not a more effective influence on the behavior of their child. Most people who I observe hitting their children are petulant, and lack the resolve to rationally deal with their children. Causing pain is the easy way out, in my honest opinion.Weak dude, weak... I would love to see you as a parent, most people with you're state of mind always cave in when things don't turn out how they imagined it would. Deterrence would just provide a anti-social child, worse than physical abuse IMO.
-R3Vo
I reallly think you need to re-word your question....
Hard to understand
BigDizz
Agreed. I don't wanna vote incase I vote against what I meant :? I think you should legally be able to spank your children. My mum always hit me as a child, and still does when things get out of hand. Kids nowadays know they're untouchable so they do whatever they want.
For example, when I was in the top year at secondary school (at 15 years old) I was getting pushed around by the lowest year (11 year olds). Back when I was their age, I didn't dare go near any of them for fear of getting beaten up. Now they think they own the place. So you know what I did? I hit them. They pushed me around or said anything and I'd throw them up against a wall and either frighten them or hit the more arrogant ones.
Since then I had no trouble at all. They were all scared of me. Fear and respect are closely related. Kids nowadays need to be spanked when they do something wrong so they fear the parent and respect the parent. You can't just tell kids off, they don't learn. If they get spanked then they'll remember that pain and humiliation and won't do it again.
we've been spanking children for thousands of years. Do we all look like insane, repressed, abused headcases? No. Verbally scolding is really no different than physically scolding children. Luncbox1
we've been spanking children for thousands of years. Do we all look like insane, repressed, abused headcases? No. Verbally scolding is really no different than physically scolding children. Luncbox1
We aren't exactly well behaved altruistic and tolerant individuals either.
[QUOTE="bman784"]Smacking around your kids is unnecessary and wrong, in my opinion. I don't think it should be legal. Parents should never have to resort to using pain as a preventative measure.-R3Vo
You can't try to have a symposium with your 4 year old child when they're screaming in McDonalds or the Greocery store. You definately can't negotiate, because that shows weakness, and obviously tells them that what they are doing is right.
You're a part of the problem.
Stop taking them to McDonalds then and punish by denying their privileges. Teaching your kids to use violence for conflict resolution just creates a bigger problem.
kids have it to easy now a days, parents are raising them to be spoiled brats with no respect for their elders or other people
when i was a kid and acted stupid i got this
and it tought me "owie! that hurt! ok ok ok i wont act like that eny more"
now a days parents are sissies and want to be politically correct they just get
"thats it got to your room!!"
ohh yeah time out in thier room where they have video game, tv, music, and computers, yeah that will teach them a lesson...
Proverbs states that he who spares the rod hates his son. How can someone claim to love their child if they do not discipline them in a manner that they know how to live life effectively? Parents are to teach their children and without discipline, children are to be rebellious. mindstormagreed
Weak dude, weak... I would love to see you as a parent, most people with you're state of mind always cave in when things don't turn out how they imagined it would. Deterrence would just provide a anti-social child, worse than physical abuse IMO.-R3Vo
now a days parents are sissies and want to be politically correct they just get
"thats it got to your room!!"
ohh yeah time out in thier room where they have video game, tv, music, and computers, yeah that will teach them a lesson...legend26
do you agree that you should be able spank a child and that what used to be called disciplining is now illegal?raider1648
You're asking whether we can spank our child nowadays? And spanking is deemed illegal?
I would say you should be allowed to spank a child, but to a certain extent only.
[QUOTE="-R3Vo"]My parents didn't hit me once, but didn't cave in and gave me firm consequences, to the point that I learned not to misbehave early on. There are a ton of parents who don't resort to causing pain, and can have just as effective, if not a more effective influence on the behavior of their child. Most people who I observe hitting their children are petulant, and lack the resolve to rationally deal with their children. Causing pain is the easy way out, in my honest opinion.Weak dude, weak... I would love to see you as a parent, most people with you're state of mind always cave in when things don't turn out how they imagined it would. Deterrence would just provide a anti-social child, worse than physical abuse IMO.
bman784
Exactly what I was thinking. People who beat their children do it because they are weak and don't know how to deal with their kids, so they go for what looks the easy way out, they use physical force. My parents didn't beat me and I was very disciplined from a very early age. So, there you go, the theory that you must beat your children for them to be disciplined is bullcrap. The problem is that you risk doing psychological damage to your kids and even if you beat them, they might rebel. In fact, I've heard people say often that they rebeled because their parents beat them.
There is a dividing line between punishment and abuse. How hard and how much a parent spanks the child will either make it a punishment or abusive. I got spanked when I was a child, not often as I was a fairly good kid, but I only ever got three swats at any given time and it was enough. It was the only punishment that worked on me. They tried grounding once, didn't work...So I think parents should be allowed to spank their own child providing it is not done out of anger.Wren28
That is pretty much exactly what i was going to rite.
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