Do inmates in prison really get food? But homeless people don't?

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#1 eccentric_view
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I was wondering, inmates in prison are fed right? It might not be a gourmet meal, a 5-star chef type deal, but it's still SOME form of nourishment in their stomachs right? And yet... do homeless people struggle to find food? Or is this supposed to be a trade between "freedom" outside and being inside a cell? Well there are homeless shelters but... if a prison does get full, do they release inmates just like that? Has there ever been a case of this happening? Is this a cause for alarm?
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#2 ImaPirate0202
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Something tells me I would rather be a hobo than a prisoner...

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So we kill prisoners by starvation?? Not sure where you are going with this.
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#4 Wolls
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Are you asking if people have been let out of prison due to overcrowding, if so what the hell does homelessness have to do with anything?
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#5 magiciandude
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It's just like that movie with Charlie Chaplin, Modern Times. It perfectly describes what you're talking about.

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#6 KiIIyou
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we should eat our current prisons and build new ones out of the homeless. :)
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#7 Clickme_now
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I'm not sure, but I don't see why homeless people wouldn't qualifiy fro food stamps.
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#8 Atmanix
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You're suggesting we let people in prison starve to death because they're unable to go out and get a job... because we put them in prison?

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#9 Toriko42
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Most homeless people are bums...Poor drug addicts A minority of them are people in bad situations but they have means to get food. Shelters, Food Stamps, etc.
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#10 BuryMe
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Yeah... Of course they get food.

You cant let them starve to death...

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#12 Meinhard1
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Prisoners aren't worthless, many of them just made mistakes and will return to society within 6 months - 2 years. Very few prisoners deserve maggoty bread and slop - maybe child molesters and serial killers tho.
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#13 osiris667
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Prisoners aren't worthless, many of them just made mistakes and will return to society within 6 months - 2 years. Very few prisoners deserve maggoty bread and slop - maybe child molesters and serial killers tho.Meinhard1

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#14 eccentric_view
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Where in the heck did I imply starving or killing prisoners ANYWHERE in my post? That's just your own hidden desires, so hah caught you I guess. I'm asking that prisoners are fed no matter what right? So basically what more could they ask for as prisoners if they're getting food, shelter and a bed to sleep on? So... what about the homeless? Shelters exist, but they also tend to be overcrowded. Do the homeless living on the street or under bridges have to worry about finding food? Should they be in lieu of such and such?
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*looks at user name* I'm not gonna disagree, that is one ****ing eccentric view
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It cost 80 thousand to keep them a year in Canada. I would do something else with them like... BAM BAM

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And tv, and pool tables, madness.
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#18 wslacker2
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By law, and prisons are run by state or federal gvts., they have to feed prisoners. The govt., by law, does not have to feed the homeless.
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#19 THE_DRUGGIE
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Yeah... Of course they get food.

You cant let them starve to death...

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What if they're on death row?

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[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

Yeah... Of course they get food.

You cant let them starve to death...

THE_DRUGGIE

What if they're on death row?

I daresay starvation would constitute cruel and unusual punishment
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I was wondering, inmates in prison are fed right? It might not be a gourmet meal, a 5-star chef type deal, but it's still SOME form of nourishment in their stomachs right? And yet... do homeless people struggle to find food? Or is this supposed to be a trade between "freedom" outside and being inside a cell? Well there are homeless shelters but... if a prison does get full, do they release inmates just like that? Has there ever been a case of this happening? Is this a cause for alarm? eccentric_view

Inmates get free showers, tv, computer/internet, gym, books/library, telephone calls, nutritious meals, a flushing toilet and a sink with hot/cold water. They may even get conjugal visits and a paying job.

You think a lot of these ex-cons are all bulked up because of hard labor?

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It does make you wonder if a token economy should be established in prison in order for them to earn their food, and also make the less of a tax sink by offering goods and services (I'm sure there are already similar systems in place already).
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#23 Respawn-d
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hobos can get off there ass and go to a one of the many services offered that try to help.

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#24 face_ripper
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Some prisons are a struggle between life and death, there is a really high chance that you will get killed.
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#25 lownslow302
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theres this story i heard of a new york homeless person who went to jail on purpose to get food,home and free education when they found out they released him in a month and when he was released he went and killed 2 people and turned himself in to go back . its crazy what some people will do for a plate of food. hes still in jail i think he got 30 years or something like that

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#26 Big_Bad_Sad
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Not sure where you are going with this. ferrari2001
A lot of threads have made me think the same tonight
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[QUOTE="eccentric_view"]I was wondering, inmates in prison are fed right? It might not be a gourmet meal, a 5-star chef type deal, but it's still SOME form of nourishment in their stomachs right? And yet... do homeless people struggle to find food? Or is this supposed to be a trade between "freedom" outside and being inside a cell? Well there are homeless shelters but... if a prison does get full, do they release inmates just like that? Has there ever been a case of this happening? Is this a cause for alarm? jun_aka_pekto

Inmates get free showers, tv, computer/internet, gym, books/library, telephone calls, nutritious meals, a flushing toilet and a sink with hot/cold water. They may even get conjugal visits and a paying job.

You think a lot of these ex-cons are all bulked up because of hard labor?

They also get shanked and raped, it's no vacation spa. You can get free internet and books at a local library andfree TV at any bus station. It's not like they can do any of these things any time they want, their time is tightly regulated. Besides, if you stuck them all in a dank room with only a bench and fed them gruel do you really think they'd have a cheery disposition when they got out? We do still make some attempt at rehabilitation with our prison systems. Lastly, they work, but they work for pennies, that should at least mitigate some of the cost of their upkeep.

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It cost 80 thousand to keep them a year in Canada. I would do something else with them like... BAM BAM

Cruse34

Okay, hypothetically...you get a traffic citation, and completely forget to pay it. A judge issues a bench warrant. You get arrested and jailed.

Is it still Bam Bam then?:P

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#29 Pixel-Pirate
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Most homeless people I have seen do indeed eat.

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[QUOTE="eccentric_view"]I was wondering, inmates in prison are fed right? It might not be a gourmet meal, a 5-star chef type deal, but it's still SOME form of nourishment in their stomachs right? And yet... do homeless people struggle to find food? Or is this supposed to be a trade between "freedom" outside and being inside a cell? Well there are homeless shelters but... if a prison does get full, do they release inmates just like that? Has there ever been a case of this happening? Is this a cause for alarm? jun_aka_pekto

Inmates get free showers, tv, computer/internet, gym, books/library, telephone calls, nutritious meals, a flushing toilet and a sink with hot/cold water. They may even get conjugal visits and a paying job.

You think a lot of these ex-cons are all bulked up because of hard labor?

Coming from my uncle who has been in prison (and not even a high security one)

"We got TV at 4 o clock and that was it. No sound and we watched whatever the guards wanted and we better like it".

But you're right. We should run it to be the most horrendous place ever. Making sure we break numerous treaties and rights and thus getting sanctions on the US. :|

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People that are homeless are one of 3 things. 1. Stupid drug addicts 2. Mentally retarded people who can't get a job 3. Lazy people Number 2 are the only ones who should be fed.
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#32 lamprey263
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yeah, I'm sure the gruel they get between being anally raped in the showers and shanked in the hallways just hits the spot while they count the seconds, minutes, days, months, years, to their next parole hearing
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BTW, private prisons are a growing industry bent on profit at tax payers expense, like the military, and you can't starve slaves to death or else you don't get the money for holding them and the slave labor you contract through them, homeless people are just useless until they can make that a profit making private industrial complex
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#34 deactivated-5857b4a04988e
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Homeless people get food. Most food shelters are adequately supplied and staffed, and there are things like homeless shelters that also give a place to stay at night. Also, many churches let homeless stay the night. In fact, a homeless person can easily obtain food and shelter. It's that many are not informed of these facilities, have preference to be alone, or have mental disabilities that prevent them from seeking help.
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But you're right. We should run it to be the most horrendous place ever. Making sure we break numerous treaties and rights and thus getting sanctions on the US. :|

Pixel-Pirate
we actually already do it like that.
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People that are homeless are one of 3 things. 1. Stupid drug addicts 2. Mentally retarded people who can't get a job 3. Lazy people Number 2 are the only ones who should be fed.mr_poodles123

Wow....If you actually believe this, you show an astonishing lack of not only compassion, but view of how the world really works.

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BTW, private prisons are a growing industry bent on profit at tax payers expense, like the military, and you can't starve slaves to death or else you don't get the money for holding them and the slave labor you contract through them, homeless people are just useless until they can make that a profit making private industrial complexlamprey263

Homeless people clean up litter, recycle items, scavange things that people just leave lying around, and do many other things. Also, by not having a job they keep everyone else's wages high (relatively) as if there were no joblessness there would be no demand for jobs, by being "useless" they're actually providing a service to society.

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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

But you're right. We should run it to be the most horrendous place ever. Making sure we break numerous treaties and rights and thus getting sanctions on the US. :|

Hewkii

we actually already do it like that.

My Anit virus said the site was a threat :|

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It does make you wonder if a token economy should be established in prison in order for them to earn their food, and also make the less of a tax sink by offering goods and services (I'm sure there are already similar systems in place already).General_X
they already do this too.
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stop using Norton.
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#41 harashawn
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Yes, that's why a lot of homeless people try to get arrested. A free place to live and food.
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#42 -TheSecondSign-
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The state is responsible for the immediatewelfare of people it detains, regardless of why it detains them.

It is not responsible for the immediate welfare of homeless people, since homeless people are not all incarcerated in facilities where the state provides their care.

Homeless people are homeless. Its kind of hard to find them since, by definition, they have no home.

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Again Homeless people do get assistance in food, a place to stay the night, and other social services.

Also, contrary to what people are saying, homeless people DO get food stamps.

The Department of Housing and Urban Development lists resources available to homeless people (and homeless people can easily access this information through public libraries, homeless shelters, etc.):

http://portal.hud.gov/portal/page/portal/HUD/topics/homelessness/localassist

And, of course, there are tons of non-profit organizations that provide similar resources to homeless people. Furthermore, churches and homeless shelters often provide food and a place to stay.

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Again Homeless people do get assistance in food, a place to stay the night, and other social services.

Also, contrary to what people are saying, homeless people DO get food stamps.

The Department of Housing and Urban Developmentlists resources available to homeless people (and homeless people can easily access this information through public libraries, homeless shelters, etc.):

http://portal.hud.gov/portal/page/portal/HUD/topics/homelessness/localassist

And, of course, there are tons of non-profit organizations that provide similar resources to homeless people. Furthermore, churches and homeless shelters often provide food and a place to stay.

Dtnoip28

Uh...

Atleast in my state, you cannot get any sort of government assistance without an address or place they can mail you so you can file quarterly reports and what have you.

A homeless person does not have a home and thus no address and as such cannot get these benefits, in my state.

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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

My Anit virus said the site was a threat :|

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stop using Norton.

I'm not. :|

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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Dtnoip28"]

Again Homeless people do get assistance in food, a place to stay the night, and other social services.

Also, contrary to what people are saying, homeless people DO get food stamps.

The Department of Housing and Urban Developmentlists resources available to homeless people (and homeless people can easily access this information through public libraries, homeless shelters, etc.):

http://portal.hud.gov/portal/page/portal/HUD/topics/homelessness/localassist

And, of course, there are tons of non-profit organizations that provide similar resources to homeless people. Furthermore, churches and homeless shelters often provide food and a place to stay.

Uh...

Atleast in my state, you cannot get any sort of government assistance without an address or place they can mail you so you can file quarterly reports and what have you.

A homeless person does not have a home and thus no address and as such cannot get these benefits, in my state.

What's your state so I can check? Or give me an example of a similar state to yours.
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#47 T_REX305
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they dont get like 5 star food. they get food that is best for there health. (thats what im being told) and dunno for anywhere else but some people make charities to give out free food.

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I'm not. :|

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that was a joke. read this then. it's basically the same thing.
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[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]

[QUOTE="Dtnoip28"]

Again Homeless people do get assistance in food, a place to stay the night, and other social services.

Also, contrary to what people are saying, homeless people DO get food stamps.

The Department of Housing and Urban Developmentlists resources available to homeless people (and homeless people can easily access this information through public libraries, homeless shelters, etc.):

http://portal.hud.gov/portal/page/portal/HUD/topics/homelessness/localassist

And, of course, there are tons of non-profit organizations that provide similar resources to homeless people. Furthermore, churches and homeless shelters often provide food and a place to stay.

Dtnoip28

Uh...

Atleast in my state, you cannot get any sort of government assistance without an address or place they can mail you so you can file quarterly reports and what have you.

A homeless person does not have a home and thus no address and as such cannot get these benefits, in my state.

What's your state so I can check? Or give me an example of a similar state to yours.

California. How would they mail you your things, keep tabs on you so they can find you if you misuse it, etc if you have no address and as such are impossible to find? :|

Aside from this, you must check in with the government yearly to discuss things. How would they send the letter informing you of this if you had no address?

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#50 -TheSecondSign-
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Everyone seems to be forgetting something.

Prisoners are incarcerated. They are in a prison. Thats why we call them prisoners.

If we do not provide for them food and shelter, then we cannot incarcerate them, not legally or morally.

Is it right? No. But stop using it as a justification for your angst. Congratulations, you realized that the world is a very unfair place. Get over it.

We can't apprehend people, put them in a cell, and then just not feed them, because there are innocent homeless people who have yet to be fed. Thats stupid. We should just starve prisoners then, until all the homeless people have food?

Homeless people are not imprisoned. They have opportunity. Prisoners do not. They have no freedom, hence, they cannot earn their own food.

I, personally, have no problem with starving prisoners. I don't care. I don't have the ability to care. But everyone else does.

So tough ****.