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It's just like that movie with Charlie Chaplin, Modern Times. It perfectly describes what you're talking about.
Yeah... Of course they get food.
You cant let them starve to death...
BuryMe
What if they're on death row?
[QUOTE="BuryMe"]
Yeah... Of course they get food.
You cant let them starve to death...
THE_DRUGGIE
What if they're on death row?
I daresay starvation would constitute cruel and unusual punishmentI was wondering, inmates in prison are fed right? It might not be a gourmet meal, a 5-star chef type deal, but it's still SOME form of nourishment in their stomachs right? And yet... do homeless people struggle to find food? Or is this supposed to be a trade between "freedom" outside and being inside a cell? Well there are homeless shelters but... if a prison does get full, do they release inmates just like that? Has there ever been a case of this happening? Is this a cause for alarm? eccentric_view
Inmates get free showers, tv, computer/internet, gym, books/library, telephone calls, nutritious meals, a flushing toilet and a sink with hot/cold water. They may even get conjugal visits and a paying job.
You think a lot of these ex-cons are all bulked up because of hard labor?
theres this story i heard of a new york homeless person who went to jail on purpose to get food,home and free education when they found out they released him in a month and when he was released he went and killed 2 people and turned himself in to go back . its crazy what some people will do for a plate of food. hes still in jail i think he got 30 years or something like that
Not sure where you are going with this. ferrari2001A lot of threads have made me think the same tonight
[QUOTE="eccentric_view"]I was wondering, inmates in prison are fed right? It might not be a gourmet meal, a 5-star chef type deal, but it's still SOME form of nourishment in their stomachs right? And yet... do homeless people struggle to find food? Or is this supposed to be a trade between "freedom" outside and being inside a cell? Well there are homeless shelters but... if a prison does get full, do they release inmates just like that? Has there ever been a case of this happening? Is this a cause for alarm? jun_aka_pekto
Inmates get free showers, tv, computer/internet, gym, books/library, telephone calls, nutritious meals, a flushing toilet and a sink with hot/cold water. They may even get conjugal visits and a paying job.
You think a lot of these ex-cons are all bulked up because of hard labor?
They also get shanked and raped, it's no vacation spa. You can get free internet and books at a local library andfree TV at any bus station. It's not like they can do any of these things any time they want, their time is tightly regulated. Besides, if you stuck them all in a dank room with only a bench and fed them gruel do you really think they'd have a cheery disposition when they got out? We do still make some attempt at rehabilitation with our prison systems. Lastly, they work, but they work for pennies, that should at least mitigate some of the cost of their upkeep.
It cost 80 thousand to keep them a year in Canada. I would do something else with them like... BAM BAM
Cruse34
Okay, hypothetically...you get a traffic citation, and completely forget to pay it. A judge issues a bench warrant. You get arrested and jailed.
Is it still Bam Bam then?:P
[QUOTE="eccentric_view"]I was wondering, inmates in prison are fed right? It might not be a gourmet meal, a 5-star chef type deal, but it's still SOME form of nourishment in their stomachs right? And yet... do homeless people struggle to find food? Or is this supposed to be a trade between "freedom" outside and being inside a cell? Well there are homeless shelters but... if a prison does get full, do they release inmates just like that? Has there ever been a case of this happening? Is this a cause for alarm? jun_aka_pekto
Inmates get free showers, tv, computer/internet, gym, books/library, telephone calls, nutritious meals, a flushing toilet and a sink with hot/cold water. They may even get conjugal visits and a paying job.
You think a lot of these ex-cons are all bulked up because of hard labor?
Coming from my uncle who has been in prison (and not even a high security one)
"We got TV at 4 o clock and that was it. No sound and we watched whatever the guards wanted and we better like it".
But you're right. We should run it to be the most horrendous place ever. Making sure we break numerous treaties and rights and thus getting sanctions on the US. :|
People that are homeless are one of 3 things. 1. Stupid drug addicts 2. Mentally retarded people who can't get a job 3. Lazy people Number 2 are the only ones who should be fed.mr_poodles123
Wow....If you actually believe this, you show an astonishing lack of not only compassion, but view of how the world really works.
BTW, private prisons are a growing industry bent on profit at tax payers expense, like the military, and you can't starve slaves to death or else you don't get the money for holding them and the slave labor you contract through them, homeless people are just useless until they can make that a profit making private industrial complexlamprey263
Homeless people clean up litter, recycle items, scavange things that people just leave lying around, and do many other things. Also, by not having a job they keep everyone else's wages high (relatively) as if there were no joblessness there would be no demand for jobs, by being "useless" they're actually providing a service to society.
[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]we actually already do it like that.But you're right. We should run it to be the most horrendous place ever. Making sure we break numerous treaties and rights and thus getting sanctions on the US. :|
Hewkii
My Anit virus said the site was a threat :|
It does make you wonder if a token economy should be established in prison in order for them to earn their food, and also make the less of a tax sink by offering goods and services (I'm sure there are already similar systems in place already).General_Xthey already do this too.
The state is responsible for the immediatewelfare of people it detains, regardless of why it detains them.
It is not responsible for the immediate welfare of homeless people, since homeless people are not all incarcerated in facilities where the state provides their care.
Homeless people are homeless. Its kind of hard to find them since, by definition, they have no home.
Again Homeless people do get assistance in food, a place to stay the night, and other social services.
Also, contrary to what people are saying, homeless people DO get food stamps.
The Department of Housing and Urban Development lists resources available to homeless people (and homeless people can easily access this information through public libraries, homeless shelters, etc.):
http://portal.hud.gov/portal/page/portal/HUD/topics/homelessness/localassist
And, of course, there are tons of non-profit organizations that provide similar resources to homeless people. Furthermore, churches and homeless shelters often provide food and a place to stay.
Again Homeless people do get assistance in food, a place to stay the night, and other social services.
Also, contrary to what people are saying, homeless people DO get food stamps.
The Department of Housing and Urban Developmentlists resources available to homeless people (and homeless people can easily access this information through public libraries, homeless shelters, etc.):
http://portal.hud.gov/portal/page/portal/HUD/topics/homelessness/localassist
And, of course, there are tons of non-profit organizations that provide similar resources to homeless people. Furthermore, churches and homeless shelters often provide food and a place to stay.
Dtnoip28
Uh...
Atleast in my state, you cannot get any sort of government assistance without an address or place they can mail you so you can file quarterly reports and what have you.
A homeless person does not have a home and thus no address and as such cannot get these benefits, in my state.
[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"]stop using Norton.My Anit virus said the site was a threat :|
Hewkii
I'm not. :|
[QUOTE="Dtnoip28"]
Again Homeless people do get assistance in food, a place to stay the night, and other social services.
Also, contrary to what people are saying, homeless people DO get food stamps.
The Department of Housing and Urban Developmentlists resources available to homeless people (and homeless people can easily access this information through public libraries, homeless shelters, etc.):
http://portal.hud.gov/portal/page/portal/HUD/topics/homelessness/localassist
And, of course, there are tons of non-profit organizations that provide similar resources to homeless people. Furthermore, churches and homeless shelters often provide food and a place to stay.
Uh...
Atleast in my state, you cannot get any sort of government assistance without an address or place they can mail you so you can file quarterly reports and what have you.
A homeless person does not have a home and thus no address and as such cannot get these benefits, in my state.
What's your state so I can check? Or give me an example of a similar state to yours.[QUOTE="Pixel-Pirate"][QUOTE="Dtnoip28"]
Again Homeless people do get assistance in food, a place to stay the night, and other social services.
Also, contrary to what people are saying, homeless people DO get food stamps.
The Department of Housing and Urban Developmentlists resources available to homeless people (and homeless people can easily access this information through public libraries, homeless shelters, etc.):
http://portal.hud.gov/portal/page/portal/HUD/topics/homelessness/localassist
And, of course, there are tons of non-profit organizations that provide similar resources to homeless people. Furthermore, churches and homeless shelters often provide food and a place to stay.
Dtnoip28
Uh...
Atleast in my state, you cannot get any sort of government assistance without an address or place they can mail you so you can file quarterly reports and what have you.
A homeless person does not have a home and thus no address and as such cannot get these benefits, in my state.
What's your state so I can check? Or give me an example of a similar state to yours.California. How would they mail you your things, keep tabs on you so they can find you if you misuse it, etc if you have no address and as such are impossible to find? :|
Aside from this, you must check in with the government yearly to discuss things. How would they send the letter informing you of this if you had no address?
Everyone seems to be forgetting something.
Prisoners are incarcerated. They are in a prison. Thats why we call them prisoners.
If we do not provide for them food and shelter, then we cannot incarcerate them, not legally or morally.
Is it right? No. But stop using it as a justification for your angst. Congratulations, you realized that the world is a very unfair place. Get over it.
We can't apprehend people, put them in a cell, and then just not feed them, because there are innocent homeless people who have yet to be fed. Thats stupid. We should just starve prisoners then, until all the homeless people have food?
Homeless people are not imprisoned. They have opportunity. Prisoners do not. They have no freedom, hence, they cannot earn their own food.
I, personally, have no problem with starving prisoners. I don't care. I don't have the ability to care. But everyone else does.
So tough ****.
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