[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"][QUOTE="toast_burner"] Like i said before, you can't see someones indide so why the hell does it matter? LJS9502_basicDo natural women have a similar interior structer? Yes. Do men? Yes. Do transgender women/transgender men have an interior structer like natural women/natural men? No. So it does matter. It matters as far as future relationships since that may be a deal breaker. But why does it matter otherwise? I'm just saying that they can't be completely what they want to be, is all.
Do Transexuals have the right to go out with straight people not telling them?
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[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"][QUOTE="Lockedge"] I would disagree with your idea of logical definitions, and so would most medical boards and psychological organizations, and governments that allow sex change procedures to alter documentation such as birth certificates, etc. You place primary concern on parts of the body that only serve non-vital functions. Without a brain, a human is...well, they're basically physical shells. They cannot think, feel, sense, etc. Without reproductive organs, a person can function in society and in their lives to an incredible degree. I would say that weighing other organs over the Brain would be of little logic. That's me, though.LockedgeThere are certain differences between a male, and female skeleton. Your skeleton is male. Your insides are male. You are not 100% female. You are partly, just not 100%. The male and female skeleton are generally developed through testosterone and estrogen. I had no control over the fact that testosterone made my bones bulky. When I was younger, there was very little reception to me saying I was a girl, not a boy. Even in Canada, there's pretty much no way transsexuals can legally transition before they're of legal age. This was not something I wanted to happen. The skeleton is malleable by hormones, it's a bad example on your behalf. A friend of mine has a facial structure that would be very fitting for a woman, but he's absolutely male. Stuff like that is rather individual. My insides aren't all male. The human body isn't so different between male and female. There's a fair bit of time when the fetus has no sex differentiation, or undifferentiated gonads. Big-Red, I get where you are coming from. You can say I'm not a woman until pigs fly and I won't care one bit. 5 years ago, I might have been upset over that, but it makes no difference to me now. You have the right to say that to me. You have the right to make your own definitions and follow them s strictly as you want to. My issue is that if you were to tell a young teen transsexual going through the worst period of their life that they'll never be 100% a woman, no matter what they do, that transsexual could take that really poorly. That might not be your intent, but those kind of reactions can happen. There's a reason many transsexuals do not make it out of their teens. If around 30% that are transitioning during their teens are committing suicide and more are attempting, one has to wonder about the ones who are too scared to transition due to public response that's been made quite evident. I recall when I was in grade 9 going through puberty, I came to Gamespot to escape the real world because when I was here, I could forget for a little while what was happening to my body. If there are others here that stumble into this thread, that's a choice of their own doing, but the more you keep bringing this up, the more I'm going to keep posting in opposition, because I don't want one coming in here and not seeing such views uncontested.
It's not like you're not a woman. You are, just not completely. Like 70/30. There's nothing wrong with that. But a transgendered individual going around thinking that they are 100% completely the gender that they wish they were... I just dillusional in the least. And my skeletal arguement was mostly based around the pelvic bone. Look.
The male and female skeleton are generally developed through testosterone and estrogen. I had no control over the fact that testosterone made my bones bulky. When I was younger, there was very little reception to me saying I was a girl, not a boy. Even in Canada, there's pretty much no way transsexuals can legally transition before they're of legal age. This was not something I wanted to happen. The skeleton is malleable by hormones, it's a bad example on your behalf. A friend of mine has a facial structure that would be very fitting for a woman, but he's absolutely male. Stuff like that is rather individual. My insides aren't all male. The human body isn't so different between male and female. There's a fair bit of time when the fetus has no sex differentiation, or undifferentiated gonads. Big-Red, I get where you are coming from. You can say I'm not a woman until pigs fly and I won't care one bit. 5 years ago, I might have been upset over that, but it makes no difference to me now. You have the right to say that to me. You have the right to make your own definitions and follow them s strictly as you want to. My issue is that if you were to tell a young teen transsexual going through the worst period of their life that they'll never be 100% a woman, no matter what they do, that transsexual could take that really poorly. That might not be your intent, but those kind of reactions can happen. There's a reason many transsexuals do not make it out of their teens. If around 30% that are transitioning during their teens are committing suicide and more are attempting, one has to wonder about the ones who are too scared to transition due to public response that's been made quite evident. I recall when I was in grade 9 going through puberty, I came to Gamespot to escape the real world because when I was here, I could forget for a little while what was happening to my body. If there are others here that stumble into this thread, that's a choice of their own doing, but the more you keep bringing this up, the more I'm going to keep posting in opposition, because I don't want one coming in here and not seeing such views uncontested.[QUOTE="Lockedge"][QUOTE="-Big_Red-"] There are certain differences between a male, and female skeleton. Your skeleton is male. Your insides are male. You are not 100% female. You are partly, just not 100%.-Big_Red-
It's not like you're not a woman. You are, just not completely. Like 70/30. There's nothing wrong with that. But a transgendered individual going around thinking that they are 100% completely the gender that they wish they were... I just dillusional in the least. And my skeletal arguement was mostly based around the pelvic bone. Look.
Oh, I'm not about to say there aren't differences, but in the grad scheme of things, I consider them minimal. Most men have narrower pelvises, most women have larger ones. There are most definitely exceptions to this rule though. My cousin required a C-section because her coccyx was angled to a degree where it would have made childbirth pretty darn dangerous. Just one of those things, luckily we have medical staff that can recognize this and provide alternative solutions.
[QUOTE="-Big_Red-"]
The male and female skeleton are generally developed through testosterone and estrogen. I had no control over the fact that testosterone made my bones bulky. When I was younger, there was very little reception to me saying I was a girl, not a boy. Even in Canada, there's pretty much no way transsexuals can legally transition before they're of legal age. This was not something I wanted to happen. The skeleton is malleable by hormones, it's a bad example on your behalf. A friend of mine has a facial structure that would be very fitting for a woman, but he's absolutely male. Stuff like that is rather individual. My insides aren't all male. The human body isn't so different between male and female. There's a fair bit of time when the fetus has no sex differentiation, or undifferentiated gonads. Big-Red, I get where you are coming from. You can say I'm not a woman until pigs fly and I won't care one bit. 5 years ago, I might have been upset over that, but it makes no difference to me now. You have the right to say that to me. You have the right to make your own definitions and follow them s strictly as you want to. My issue is that if you were to tell a young teen transsexual going through the worst period of their life that they'll never be 100% a woman, no matter what they do, that transsexual could take that really poorly. That might not be your intent, but those kind of reactions can happen. There's a reason many transsexuals do not make it out of their teens. If around 30% that are transitioning during their teens are committing suicide and more are attempting, one has to wonder about the ones who are too scared to transition due to public response that's been made quite evident. I recall when I was in grade 9 going through puberty, I came to Gamespot to escape the real world because when I was here, I could forget for a little while what was happening to my body. If there are others here that stumble into this thread, that's a choice of their own doing, but the more you keep bringing this up, the more I'm going to keep posting in opposition, because I don't want one coming in here and not seeing such views uncontested.Lockedge
It's not like you're not a woman. You are, just not completely. Like 70/30. There's nothing wrong with that. But a transgendered individual going around thinking that they are 100% completely the gender that they wish they were... I just dillusional in the least. And my skeletal arguement was mostly based around the pelvic bone. Look.
Oh, I'm not about to say there aren't differences, but in the grad scheme of things, I consider them minimal. Most men have narrower pelvises, most women have larger ones. There are most definitely exceptions to this rule though. My cousin required a C-section because her coccyx was angled to a degree where it would have made childbirth pretty darn dangerous. Just one of those things, luckily we have medical staff that can recognize this and provide alternative solutions.
I know it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, which is why you're mostly woman.
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