The mature, marriage worthy women like nice guys, but your average teenage idiot probobly prefers jerks.
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The mature, marriage worthy women like nice guys, but your average teenage idiot probobly prefers jerks.
Sadly, those teenage idiots grow up to become marriage worthy women.. I hope that girl that I'm madly in love with(somewhat infatuation, but it's not because I'm willing to marry her, and i know that means being stuck with her for the rest of my life) isn't like that though.The mature, marriage worthy women like nice guys, but your average teenage idiot probobly prefers jerks.
SeanyBoy21
The mature man also knows that women dont like jerks and not all guys are jerks. But your average teenage male who can't get a girl due to lack of confidence prefers to think that all women prefer jerks. It might be that lack of confidence thing.The mature, marriage worthy women like nice guys, but your average teenage idiot probobly prefers jerks.
SeanyBoy21
[QUOTE="loco145"]Well, it takes at the very least fake self confidence to be a jerk.... I don't understand why you all think girls like jerks either. Just because your girl friends who are just your friends complain that their bf at the moment is being a jerk - and its most likely because they didnt do something like buy her her favorite flower or something - or it is a mutual fight - doesn't mean they are with jerks. Girls who are into the legitimate jerks have internal issues within them as well and arent worth anyones time due to that baggage or are into S&M.[QUOTE="Sajedene"] This. People assume that they are "nice" when it turns out they have no confidence and backbone. Two VERY DIFFERENT things.Sajedene
I would say when I refer to a guy being a jerk it involves certain issues like the guy being nothing but a horndog who treats the girl like nothing more than a piece of meat.
A great example is this girl who I got turned down by. She has ALL the guys fawning over her and since her name is Holly you had these idiots calling her Hottie, constantly making innuendo jokes about her even though she can't stand that crap (shes REALLY sweet and innocent), and yet after all this I heard some of those same people calling her a "but-her-face" (granted I think she has a beautiful everything including her face) and calling her dumb and gullible and other such things. I am the only one at work who actually respects her.....
I also can't stand guys who just try to sleep with as many random girls as possible and then just toss them to the side afterwards. I have called some guys sluts before for that behavior....
I don't understand why you all think girls like jerks either. Just because your girl friends who are just your friends complain that their bf at the moment is being a jerk - and its most likely because they didnt do something like buy her her favorite flower or something - or it is a mutual fight - doesn't mean they are with jerks. Girls who are into the legitimate jerks have internal issues within them as well and arent worth anyones time due to that baggage or are into S&M.[QUOTE="Sajedene"][QUOTE="loco145"]Well, it takes at the very least fake self confidence to be a jerk....
LostProphetFLCL
I would say when I refer to a guy being a jerk it involves certain issues like the guy being nothing but a horndog who treats the girl like nothing more than a piece of meat.
A great example is this girl who I got turned down by. She has ALL the guys fawning over her and since her name is Holly you had these idiots calling her Hottie, constantly making innuendo jokes about her even though she can't stand that crap (shes REALLY sweet and innocent), and yet after all this I heard some of those same people calling her a "but-her-face" (granted I think she has a beautiful everything including her face) and calling her dumb and gullible and other such things. I am the only one at work who actually respects her.....
I also can't stand guys who just try to sleep with as many random girls as possible and then just toss them to the side afterwards. I have called some guys sluts before for that behavior....
I'm confused here... she dated these guys?[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]
[QUOTE="Sajedene"] I don't understand why you all think girls like jerks either. Just because your girl friends who are just your friends complain that their bf at the moment is being a jerk - and its most likely because they didnt do something like buy her her favorite flower or something - or it is a mutual fight - doesn't mean they are with jerks. Girls who are into the legitimate jerks have internal issues within them as well and arent worth anyones time due to that baggage or are into S&M. Sajedene
I would say when I refer to a guy being a jerk it involves certain issues like the guy being nothing but a horndog who treats the girl like nothing more than a piece of meat.
A great example is this girl who I got turned down by. She has ALL the guys fawning over her and since her name is Holly you had these idiots calling her Hottie, constantly making innuendo jokes about her even though she can't stand that crap (shes REALLY sweet and innocent), and yet after all this I heard some of those same people calling her a "but-her-face" (granted I think she has a beautiful everything including her face) and calling her dumb and gullible and other such things. I am the only one at work who actually respects her.....
I also can't stand guys who just try to sleep with as many random girls as possible and then just toss them to the side afterwards. I have called some guys sluts before for that behavior....
I'm confused here... she dated these guys?No actually she is only 18 but getting smart about the guys she dates (she has dated nothing but jerks so far but now is moving away from that and suppossedly the guy shes going for now isn't a jerk). The guys are just good examples of jerks IMO. I hate the way she gets treated and I am determined to make sure she gets treated right even if the guy shes dating isn't me...
When a girls says that a guy is too "nice," she is not talking about how well he treats her or not. She is saying that he is boring.
Don't be boring.
Of course, nice guys>jerks. Any woman who is on her right mind would know this and I'd think less of one that doesn't and even some of those type of girls would in fact like to probably end up with a good one.
Note: By nice guys I don't mean weak, insecure, shy guys but men who do right. And if there is any doubt to some about what ppl mean by jerks, refer to:
I would say when I refer to a guy being a jerk it involves certain issues like the guy being nothing but a horndog who treats the girl like nothing more than a piece of meat.
guys who just try to sleep with as many random girls as possible and then just toss them to the side afterwards. I have called some guys sluts before for that behavior....
LostProphetFLCL
[QUOTE="sonicare"]This. People assume that they are "nice" when it turns out they have no confidence and backbone. Two VERY DIFFERENT things. Yup. Three years ago I was a shy kid who was in the "nice guys finish last!!11" category. Then I got into theatre, which in turn boosts your confidence like a billion (having to sing on stage in front of a couple hundred people makes it pretty easy to handle a one-on-one conversation), and ever since I've gotten more confidence I've gotten much more attention from women. Getting in better shape and a normal haircut seemed to help too. I'm still a "nice guy," I believe. I just now have the ability to walk up and talk to girls, and it makes my life much more entertaining. You don't have to be the jerk jock kid who treats women like crap, you just have to be willing to take a chance. Plus, I'm going to assume most of the people here are in high school. You're not going to be seeing these people after high school, generally. Take the chance.It's not that woman don't like nice guys. It's just that a lot of "nice" guys tend to be extremely insecure/lack confidence. Most woman want someone that at least has some confidence/self respect.
Sajedene
Not all of them although a lot do, sometimes they know its an act. That does not mean you have to start acting like a jerk, it might be a lack of self-conidence. If a women does not like you then you have to move on.
My personal thoughts: NO WAY! but the problem is, I don't like to be a jerk. :\
yang_fox
What kind of women are you talking about? Canada? US? UK?
[QUOTE="effena"]Since the dawn of time, baby, since the daaaaaaaaawn of tiiiiiiiimeOf course. Since when is being nice a negative personality trait?
Deihjan
I was waiting for someone to say something like that :P
I think there are a lot of guys out there who treat women like fragile little flowers, and I think that's what the turn off is. Like if I'm out with a guy, I say or do something stupid, and he cracks a joke about it, that's cool. If a guy is too insecure to make the slightest joke, in fear of hurting my poor little feelings, than that's a problem. I guess it would be relative for any girl, but i think it's safe to say it's possible be too nice.
Since the dawn of time, baby, since the daaaaaaaaawn of tiiiiiiiime[QUOTE="Deihjan"][QUOTE="effena"]
Of course. Since when is being nice a negative personality trait?
effena
I was waiting for someone to say something like that :P
I think there are a lot of guys out there who treat women like fragile little flowers, and I think that's what the turn off is. Like if I'm out with a guy, I say or do something stupid, and he cracks a joke about it, that's cool. If a guy is too insecure to make the slightest joke, in fear of hurting my poor little feelings, than that's a problem. I guess it would be relative for any girl, but i think it's safe to say it's possible be too nice.
I'd rather be made fun of than be put in cotton and wrapped up in silk, because I like a guy with a brutish humour like my own. I'm sarcastic and ironic, and I say a lot of hurtful stuff, and if someone's going to be with me, they gotta be able to take the joke. I don't want a whimp, but I don't want a guy who treats me like dirt, either.[QUOTE="effena"][QUOTE="Deihjan"] Since the dawn of time, baby, since the daaaaaaaaawn of tiiiiiiiimeDeihjan
I was waiting for someone to say something like that :P
I think there are a lot of guys out there who treat women like fragile little flowers, and I think that's what the turn off is. Like if I'm out with a guy, I say or do something stupid, and he cracks a joke about it, that's cool. If a guy is too insecure to make the slightest joke, in fear of hurting my poor little feelings, than that's a problem. I guess it would be relative for any girl, but i think it's safe to say it's possible be too nice.
I'd rather be made fun of than be put in cotton and wrapped up in silk, because I like a guy with a brutish humour like my own. I'm sarcastic and ironic, and I say a lot of hurtful stuff, and if someone's going to be with me, they gotta be able to take the joke. I don't want a whimp, but I don't want a guy who treats me like dirt, either.Nice to know that I seem to be doing SOMETHING right:P
If you can't be comfortable enough with eachother to poke fun at eachother then thats a horrible sign.
I will crack jokes like that but in a fun manner. However, I can get VERY defensive and protective of girls I care for when there is serious bad talk or such going on about them....
That's both a good and bad thing that you get protective. She can think you're jealous, or you can become very jealous fast, depending on your temper and your personality. If she's talking to other guys in a friendly manner, without any flirting, it's a bad thing if you get protective. But if people are badmouthing her or are hitting on her, I'd say you have every right to puff yourself up and get defensive.Nice to know that I seem to be doing SOMETHING right:P
If you can't be comfortable enough with eachother to poke fun at eachother then thats a horrible sign.
I will crack jokes like that but in a fun manner. However, I can get VERY defensive and protective of girls I care for when there is serious bad talk or such going on about them....
LostProphetFLCL
Taking little jabs at eachother, and poking fun is what makes my friends and I fit so well together. I've never managed to find a guy who seems to get me, so I guess I'll be waiting till they realize that I'm not that scary :P
Since the dawn of time, baby, since the daaaaaaaaawn of tiiiiiiiime[QUOTE="Deihjan"][QUOTE="effena"]
Of course. Since when is being nice a negative personality trait?
effena
I was waiting for someone to say something like that :P
I think there are a lot of guys out there who treat women like fragile little flowers, and I think that's what the turn off is. Like if I'm out with a guy, I say or do something stupid, and he cracks a joke about it, that's cool. If a guy is too insecure to make the slightest joke, in fear of hurting my poor little feelings, than that's a problem. I guess it would be relative for any girl, but i think it's safe to say it's possible be too nice.
I've made that mistake...it makes me become boring. And I assume most girls don't like us (me) thinking they can't take care of themselves.
Women don't like nice guys.
Even if they say they do they're lying. Here is why...
Women like balanced guys.. A nice guy is not a balanced guy.
A **** is not a balanced guy. They want the best of both worlds..
You can't possibly speak for every single female all over the world, and especially not since you're a guy. personally, I would rather have a nice guy than a balanced guy. Freaky stuff that pops up after a while, like he twirls his hair when talking or he does the hare hare yukai in the shower.. A normal/balanced guy wouldn't do that.Women don't like nice guys.
Even if they say they do they're lying. Here is why...
Women like balanced guys.. A nice guy is not a balanced guy.
A **** is not a balanced guy. They want the best of both worlds..
EMOEVOLUTION
That's both a good and bad thing that you get protective. She can think you're jealous, or you can become very jealous fast, depending on your temper and your personality. If she's talking to other guys in a friendly manner, without any flirting, it's a bad thing if you get protective. But if people are badmouthing her or are hitting on her, I'd say you have every right to puff yourself up and get defensive.[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]
Nice to know that I seem to be doing SOMETHING right:P
If you can't be comfortable enough with eachother to poke fun at eachother then thats a horrible sign.
I will crack jokes like that but in a fun manner. However, I can get VERY defensive and protective of girls I care for when there is serious bad talk or such going on about them....
Deihjan
Taking little jabs at eachother, and poking fun is what makes my friends and I fit so well together. I've never managed to find a guy who seems to get me, so I guess I'll be waiting till they realize that I'm not that scary :P
I am good at maintaining control over my jealousy that DOES come about sometimes. I only get protective when it comes to seeing or hearing the girl treated badly. I was ready to fight a guy at our work once because he ticked off the girl I was going after....
you should be able to find someone BTW. Me and all my friends poke fun at eachother too and it seems to be a very common thing. I myself am accepting the fact that women very GREATLY on what they want in a guy so I know if I keep patient like I have been I will find someone now that I am able to put myself out there.
Women don't like nice guys.
Even if they say they do they're lying. Here is why...
Women like balanced guys.. A nice guy is not a balanced guy.
A **** is not a balanced guy. They want the best of both worlds..
EMOEVOLUTION
Look at the guru of teh ladeez here, gents. Pay close attention, he knows everything. :P
[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]You can't possibly speak for every single female all over the world, and especially not since you're a guy. personally, I would rather have a nice guy than a balanced guy. Freaky stuff that pops up after a while, like he twirls his hair when talking or he does the hare hare yukai in the shower.. A normal/balanced guy wouldn't do that. I can speak for the entire population of females that have ever existed! Most girls don't know what they really want they just think they do. What they want finds them in the end.. even if it's a crazy mess they can't get rid of.Women don't like nice guys.
Even if they say they do they're lying. Here is why...
Women like balanced guys.. A nice guy is not a balanced guy.
A **** is not a balanced guy. They want the best of both worlds..
Deihjan
[QUOTE="Deihjan"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"]You can't possibly speak for every single female all over the world, and especially not since you're a guy. personally, I would rather have a nice guy than a balanced guy. Freaky stuff that pops up after a while, like he twirls his hair when talking or he does the hare hare yukai in the shower.. A normal/balanced guy wouldn't do that. I can speak for the entire population of females that have ever existed! Most girls don't know what they really want they just think they do. What they want finds them in the end.. even if it's a crazy mess they can't get rid of.Women don't like nice guys.
Even if they say they do they're lying. Here is why...
Women like balanced guys.. A nice guy is not a balanced guy.
A **** is not a balanced guy. They want the best of both worlds..
EMOEVOLUTION
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[QUOTE="pvtdonut54"]Lol, magazine.. Which one? Vogue? Cosmo? :3Women like confident guys. I know it for a fact, it was in a magazine...
Deihjan
Depends on the woman, obviously.deepdreamer256I agree, most love nice guys, but won't date them :lol:
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