Do you believe in evolution, OT?

My whole family thinks I'm nuts because I believe in the single cell -> complex life method of evolution. As far as I'm concerned, it's a scientific certianty that's evidenced by the fossil record and DNA analysis.

But then again, my whole family is so conservative that they bleed red...err..fvck....I mean...they bleed Sean Hannity Serum. There's no getting through to them...as far as they are concerned, anyone who proposes evidence of evolution is attacking their faith-based beliefs and values.

How do you stand on this matter, OT? What say you?

long term evolution hasn't really been proven yet. even then, it's still just a theory. we don't know if it's fact or not.ZumaJones07

You obvously have no idea what a scientific theory is.

A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observationand experiment.Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world. The theory of biological evolution is more than "just a theory." It is as factual an explanation of the universe as the atomic theory of matter or the germ theory of disease. Our understanding of gravity is still a work in progress. But the phenomenon of gravity, like evolution, is an accepted fact.

based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation

br0kenrabbit

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based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation

ZumaJones07

It's called the fossil record/DNA analysis. It's fact. Period.

If you've studied it at all this wouldn't even be a question.

Yes, I do. There is overwhelming evidence in support of it.jimkabrhel

One thing I'm curious about and national geographic this month touches on it, but there are no definitive answers.

Why all mammals have 4 digits & a thumb ? All of them do, although there is variation they all have 4 fingers & a thumb. Scientists don't know why.

One thing I'm curious about and national geographic this month touches on it, but there are no definitive answers.

Why all mammals have 5 digits & a thumb ? All of them do, although there is variation they all have 5 fingers & a thumb. Scientists don't know why.

Skarwolf

DNA analysis and fossils exist in the present not the past. evolution has not been observed. it's been studied, but not observed. therefore it is not certain if it's true. which it probably isn't.ZumaJones07

You're so wrong, and that's just ONE example among many.

DNA analysis and fossils exist in the present not the past. evolution has not been observed. it's been studied, but not observed. therefore it is not certain if it's true. which it probably isn't.ZumaJones07

If we came from a common organism howcome i can't reproduce with monkeys if i evolved from them. if evolution was real i should be able to reproduce with a fishplaymynutz

For the same reason speciation (an offspring not being able to reproduce with like-members of its parents but is able to reproduce with like-members of its siblings) have been observed in the lab.

If we came from a common organism howcome i can't reproduce with monkeys if i evolved from them. if evolution was real i should be able to reproduce with a fishplaymynutz

[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]DNA analysis and fossils exist in the present not the past. evolution has not been observed. it's been studied, but not observed. therefore it is not certain if it's true. which it probably isn't.br0kenrabbit

You're so wrong, and that's just ONE example among many.

If we came from a common organism howcome i can't reproduce with monkeys if i evolved from them. if evolution was real i should be able to reproduce with a fishplaymynutz

Nope In the bible, God created the heavens and the earth, and all the animals and man(as we currently are today). He said it himself. Who are you to question the word of a supernatural, all powerful God?Nibroc420

I believe in Zeus. How dare you question the mighty God of Olympus? Who do you think you are to do so?

(See, I can play that game, too.)

[...] like fish to humans [...] ZumaJones07

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[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]DNA analysis and fossils exist in the present not the past. evolution has not been observed. it's been studied, but not observed. therefore it is not certain if it's true. which it probably isn't.ZumaJones07

You're so wrong, and that's just ONE example among many.

44,000 generations is pretty long-term. Get your termonology right.

And yes, we have observed 'long-term' evolution via the fossil record and via vestigial DNA. You really don't know what you're talking about, do you?

[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"] [...] like fish to humans [...] Zeviander

Check the poll. So far, the only dissenters in this thread are trolls or devil's advocates.

Edit: And, past this post, what I said no longer applies.

I've never met anyone in real life who didn't. Anyone who does not after being introduced to the workings of it is a complete moron, and I don't throw around that title around easily.

[QUOTE="playmynutz"]If we came from a common organism howcome i can't reproduce with monkeys if i evolved from them. if evolution was real i should be able to reproduce with a fishcybrcatter

There's no agreed consensus in the "scientific community", as to what form of evolution is correct, they're all theories. (aka, guesses). Meanwhile God is watching us all, hoping that one day his sheep will move as one flock.Nibroc420

I gave the definition of scientific theory above. They're not 'just gueses'.

You should have learned what a scientific theory is in Junior High, what happened?

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[QUOTE="playmynutz"]If we came from a common organism howcome i can't reproduce with monkeys if i evolved from them. if evolution was real i should be able to reproduce with a fishwis3boi

I'll assume that's a pic from Motherless.

cybrcatter

It's wis3boi.

Probably just some stupid old meme.

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I'll assume that's a pic from Motherless.

Dystopian-X

It's wis3boi.

Probably just some stupid old meme.

ummm....no

YES because its actually been proven..and we can see hints of it in our daily lives.

Sure I do accept the idea that species can adapt and evolve in their environment over many generations, yes. However, I have not yet been fully convinced that all living things on this earth descended from a sole single-celled organism. I hold to a form of Old Earth Creationism.mindstorm

Then explain devolving complexity the further down the strata you go. Complex life-->less complex life--->sea life--->single-celled life.

Also, explain vestigial DNA.

Again, only about half your DNA is even human.

yep

Evolution is technically a theory but i seen enough evidence to believe in it

Evolution is technically a theory but i seen enough evidence to believe in it

Chris_Williams

Technically, you don't know what you're talking about. I've posted this in this thread already, it's sad that I have to post it again:

A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observationand experiment.Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world. The theory of biological evolution is more than "just a theory." It is as factual an explanation of the universe as the atomic theory of matter or the germ theory of disease. Our understanding of gravity is still a work in progress. But the phenomenon of gravity, like evolution, is an accepted fact.

It's sad that I have to post it at all, that's Junior-High stuff right there.

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Evolution is technically a theory but i seen enough evidence to believe in it

br0kenrabbit

Technically, you don't know what you're talking about. I've posted this in this thread already, it's sad that I have to post it again:

A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observationand experiment.Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world. The theory of biological evolution is more than "just a theory." It is as factual an explanation of the universe as the atomic theory of matter or the germ theory of disease. Our understanding of gravity is still a work in progress. But the phenomenon of gravity, like evolution, is an accepted fact.

It's sad that I have to post it at all, that's Junior-High stuff right there.

I hate explaining what the word theory means in science over and over. People can be so fvcking dumb

If you don't "believe" in evolution you are either really stupid or blinded by faith.

[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"][QUOTE="mindstorm"]Sure I do accept the idea that species can adapt and evolve in their environment over many generations, yes. However, I have not yet been fully convinced that all living things on this earth descended from a sole single-celled organism. I hold to a form of Old Earth Creationism.mindstorm

I'll be the first to admit that there is room for theology in a 'first cause' (and I'll also admit that that doesn't necessarily make it so), but the physical, tangible evidence for single-cell life evolving into everything we see about us is pretty solid.

Basically, there's room for God before the Big Bang. He could have set things in motion, and if he did so, it's pretty clear that evolution is how he went about it.

Keep in mind that some theories such as String Theory have room for extra-spacial dimensions beyond our 3D+1 in which all of time in our spacial dimensions could be viewed as a singularity (meaning you can see time from beginning to end occurring in a single instance if you could move outside our 3D perception and into one of the other spacial dimensions) so perhaps this explains Gods foreknowledge. So it's not that he's actually guiding evolution currently or at any time in the post-big-bang past, but that he sat events in motion in the beginning so that they would occur 'just so'.

You gotta admit, God has a scientific mind. Right?

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Evolution is technically a theory but i seen enough evidence to believe in it

br0kenrabbit

Technically, you don't know what you're talking about. I've posted this in this thread already, it's sad that I have to post it again:

A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observationand experiment.Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world. The theory of biological evolution is more than "just a theory." It is as factual an explanation of the universe as the atomic theory of matter or the germ theory of disease. Our understanding of gravity is still a work in progress. But the phenomenon of gravity, like evolution, is an accepted fact.

It's sad that I have to post it at all, that's Junior-High stuff right there.

EDIT: i got confused, evolution is in fact a fact, you should be asking if people believe in Natural Selection which is a theory of evolution . my bad peeps, my bad jacka**

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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

Evolution is technically a theory but i seen enough evidence to believe in it

Chris_Williams

Technically, you don't know what you're talking about. I've posted this in this thread already, it's sad that I have to post it again:

A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observationand experiment.Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world. The theory of biological evolution is more than "just a theory." It is as factual an explanation of the universe as the atomic theory of matter or the germ theory of disease. Our understanding of gravity is still a work in progress. But the phenomenon of gravity, like evolution, is an accepted fact.

It's sad that I have to post it at all, that's Junior-High stuff right there.

I would wager that most scientists consider it a fact.