Logical Fallacy: Appeal to RidiculePannicAtack
You're explanation is logical fallacy, at least imo. but if you want to believe it it's your choice
Do you believe in the Darwin Theory?
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[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Logical Fallacy: Appeal to RidiculeRevinh
You're explanation is logical fallacy, at least imo. but if you want to believe it it's your choice
You can't say, 'in my opinion, this is a logical fallacy' and expect that to hold up. That's not even trying to say 'it's just opinion, leave it be', you're saying that your OPINION determines the validity of others' LOGIC.[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Logical Fallacy: Appeal to RidiculeRevinh
You're explanation is logical fallacy, at least imo. but if you want to believe it it's your choice
I dont want to get into this,but from what ive read so far you have not delivered one intelligent response to either quigly or panics posts.
Just putting that out there.
[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"]The entire reason that humans are more intelligent than other primates is that for whatever reason we got out of the trees often enough and long enough to develop hands with better dexterity. What this in turn led to was the crafting of very, very primitive tools, and then the brain began to evolve to think abstractly to plan the creation of these tools and that is the only reason that humans are any more intelligent than other species; we crashed stones together until we got a little smarter. Now we do the same with atoms.and humans weren't because?
quiglythegreat
You expect me to believe humans have far greater capabilities and potential simply because of that?
You may not because of other desires and fears and such you have which steer you away from this conclusion, but it is the logical conclusion, yes. The reason humans have such intellectual capacity was necesitated by the creation of essentially primitive tools. It forced us to think abstractly, to plan, and to use spatial logic, which has also helped us to develop complex structures in our language, another important thing.No, because it IS a huge leap, and the fact is no other apes went their way of doing that, for some reason only humans did. It's up to you to believe your speculation. It's far more logical to me that we were created separate and different from apes/animals and didn't evolve from some ape like ancestor, endowed with an incredible brain, made in the image of the Creator.
later peeps, i gotta go watch some episodes of Heroes. evolution belongs in sci-fi shows..
[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Logical Fallacy: Appeal to Ridiculequiglythegreat
You're explanation is logical fallacy, at least imo. but if you want to believe it it's your choice
You can't say, 'in my opinion, this is a logical fallacy' and expect that to hold up. That's not even trying to say 'it's just opinion, leave it be', you're saying that your OPINION determines the validity of others' LOGIC.No i was saying it's an illogical conclusion in my opinion. maybe it's logical to him. whatever he thinks
[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"]The entire reason that humans are more intelligent than other primates is that for whatever reason we got out of the trees often enough and long enough to develop hands with better dexterity. What this in turn led to was the crafting of very, very primitive tools, and then the brain began to evolve to think abstractly to plan the creation of these tools and that is the only reason that humans are any more intelligent than other species; we crashed stones together until we got a little smarter. Now we do the same with atoms.and humans weren't because?
Revinh
You expect me to believe humans have far greater capabilities and potential simply because of that?
You may not because of other desires and fears and such you have which steer you away from this conclusion, but it is the logical conclusion, yes. The reason humans have such intellectual capacity was necesitated by the creation of essentially primitive tools. It forced us to think abstractly, to plan, and to use spatial logic, which has also helped us to develop complex structures in our language, another important thing.No, because it IS a huge leap, and the fact is no other apes went their way of doing that, for some reason only humans did. It's up to you to believe your speculation. It's far more logical to me that we were created separate and different from apes/animals and didn't evolve from some ape like ancestor, endowed with an incredible brain, made in the image of the Creator.
later peeps, i gotta go watch some episodes of Heroes. evolution belongs in sci-fi shows..
Id say the same for religion.
[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Logical Fallacy: Appeal to RidiculeRevinh
You're explanation is logical fallacy, at least imo. but if you want to believe it it's your choice
You can't say, 'in my opinion, this is a logical fallacy' and expect that to hold up. That's not even trying to say 'it's just opinion, leave it be', you're saying that your OPINION determines the validity of others' LOGIC.No i was saying it's an illogical conclusion in my opinion. maybe it's logical to him. whatever he thinks
Your concepts of logic are broken.
[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Logical Fallacy: Appeal to RidiculexxDustmanxx
You're explanation is logical fallacy, at least imo. but if you want to believe it it's your choice
You can't say, 'in my opinion, this is a logical fallacy' and expect that to hold up. That's not even trying to say 'it's just opinion, leave it be', you're saying that your OPINION determines the validity of others' LOGIC.No i was saying it's an illogical conclusion in my opinion. maybe it's logical to him. whatever he thinks
Your concepts of logic are broken.
I'm with you. Put away the thesaurus, just because the word looks big doesn't mean it will make your sentences make sense.
[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"]The entire reason that humans are more intelligent than other primates is that for whatever reason we got out of the trees often enough and long enough to develop hands with better dexterity. What this in turn led to was the crafting of very, very primitive tools, and then the brain began to evolve to think abstractly to plan the creation of these tools and that is the only reason that humans are any more intelligent than other species; we crashed stones together until we got a little smarter. Now we do the same with atoms.and humans weren't because?
Revinh
You expect me to believe humans have far greater capabilities and potential simply because of that?
You may not because of other desires and fears and such you have which steer you away from this conclusion, but it is the logical conclusion, yes. The reason humans have such intellectual capacity was necesitated by the creation of essentially primitive tools. It forced us to think abstractly, to plan, and to use spatial logic, which has also helped us to develop complex structures in our language, another important thing.No, because it IS a huge leap, and the fact is no other apes went their way of doing that, for some reason only humans did. It's up to you to believe your speculation. It's far more logical to me that we were created separate and different from apes/animals and didn't evolve from some ape like ancestor, endowed with an incredible brain, made in the image of the Creator.
later peeps, i gotta go watch some episodes of Heroes. evolution belongs in sci-fi shows..
It's not really that big a leap. I'm explaining the development of our brains' advantage over primates over eons, keep that in mind. The only major thing is that it made abstract thinking 'second nature'. You don't really seem to follow me here. Our brain is not drastically different. And when you say 'later peeps', you make me worry I waste my time responding.[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Logical Fallacy: Appeal to RidiculexxDustmanxx
You're explanation is logical fallacy, at least imo. but if you want to believe it it's your choice
I dont want to get into this,but from what ive read so far you have not delivered one intelligent response to either quigly or panics posts.
Just putting that out there.
Or you just fail to understand my responses.
[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Logical Fallacy: Appeal to RidiculeRevinh
You're explanation is logical fallacy, at least imo. but if you want to believe it it's your choice
You can't say, 'in my opinion, this is a logical fallacy' and expect that to hold up. That's not even trying to say 'it's just opinion, leave it be', you're saying that your OPINION determines the validity of others' LOGIC.No i was saying it's an illogical conclusion in my opinion. maybe it's logical to him. whatever he thinks
Here's my issue: your opinion does not determine what is or is not logical. Opinions theoretically pertain only to essentially illogical things. Once you take logic out of the equation, then you have opinion. Because I like Aphex Twin doesn't mean that liking the Cure is illogical; preference (opinion) is totally independent of reason and logic.[QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Logical Fallacy: Appeal to Ridicule-R3Vo
You're explanation is logical fallacy, at least imo. but if you want to believe it it's your choice
You can't say, 'in my opinion, this is a logical fallacy' and expect that to hold up. That's not even trying to say 'it's just opinion, leave it be', you're saying that your OPINION determines the validity of others' LOGIC.No i was saying it's an illogical conclusion in my opinion. maybe it's logical to him. whatever he thinks
Your concepts of logic are broken.
I'm with you. Put away the thesaurus, just because the word looks big doesn't mean it will make your sentences make sense.
I'm not defining logic. Sometimes we'd have to leave it to opinion such as this case.
[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Logical Fallacy: Appeal to Ridiculequiglythegreat
You're explanation is logical fallacy, at least imo. but if you want to believe it it's your choice
You can't say, 'in my opinion, this is a logical fallacy' and expect that to hold up. That's not even trying to say 'it's just opinion, leave it be', you're saying that your OPINION determines the validity of others' LOGIC.No i was saying it's an illogical conclusion in my opinion. maybe it's logical to him. whatever he thinks
Here's my issue: your opinion does not determine what is or is not logical. Opinions theoretically pertain only to essentially illogical things. Once you take logic out of the equation, then you have opinion. Because I like Aphex Twin doesn't mean that liking the Cure is illogical; preference (opinion) is totally independent of reason and logic.I WASN'T SAYING MY OPINION DETERMINES WHAT IS LOGICAL OR WHAT'S NOT
[QUOTE="-R3Vo"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Logical Fallacy: Appeal to RidiculeRevinh
You're explanation is logical fallacy, at least imo. but if you want to believe it it's your choice
You can't say, 'in my opinion, this is a logical fallacy' and expect that to hold up. That's not even trying to say 'it's just opinion, leave it be', you're saying that your OPINION determines the validity of others' LOGIC.No i was saying it's an illogical conclusion in my opinion. maybe it's logical to him. whatever he thinks
Your concepts of logic are broken.
I'm with you. Put away the thesaurus, just because the word looks big doesn't mean it will make your sentences make sense.
I'm not defining logic. Sometimes we'd have to leave it to opinion such as this case.
Never said you were.
[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"]The entire reason that humans are more intelligent than other primates is that for whatever reason we got out of the trees often enough and long enough to develop hands with better dexterity. What this in turn led to was the crafting of very, very primitive tools, and then the brain began to evolve to think abstractly to plan the creation of these tools and that is the only reason that humans are any more intelligent than other species; we crashed stones together until we got a little smarter. Now we do the same with atoms.and humans weren't because?
xxDustmanxx
You expect me to believe humans have far greater capabilities and potential simply because of that?
You may not because of other desires and fears and such you have which steer you away from this conclusion, but it is the logical conclusion, yes. The reason humans have such intellectual capacity was necesitated by the creation of essentially primitive tools. It forced us to think abstractly, to plan, and to use spatial logic, which has also helped us to develop complex structures in our language, another important thing.No, because it IS a huge leap, and the fact is no other apes went their way of doing that, for some reason only humans did. It's up to you to believe your speculation. It's far more logical to me that we were created separate and different from apes/animals and didn't evolve from some ape like ancestor, endowed with an incredible brain, made in the image of the Creator.
later peeps, i gotta go watch some episodes of Heroes. evolution belongs in sci-fi shows..
Id say the same for religion.
I haven't heard an intelligent response from you
[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"]The entire reason that humans are more intelligent than other primates is that for whatever reason we got out of the trees often enough and long enough to develop hands with better dexterity. What this in turn led to was the crafting of very, very primitive tools, and then the brain began to evolve to think abstractly to plan the creation of these tools and that is the only reason that humans are any more intelligent than other species; we crashed stones together until we got a little smarter. Now we do the same with atoms.and humans weren't because?
quiglythegreat
You expect me to believe humans have far greater capabilities and potential simply because of that?
You may not because of other desires and fears and such you have which steer you away from this conclusion, but it is the logical conclusion, yes. The reason humans have such intellectual capacity was necesitated by the creation of essentially primitive tools. It forced us to think abstractly, to plan, and to use spatial logic, which has also helped us to develop complex structures in our language, another important thing.No, because it IS a huge leap, and the fact is no other apes went their way of doing that, for some reason only humans did. It's up to you to believe your speculation. It's far more logical to me that we were created separate and different from apes/animals and didn't evolve from some ape like ancestor, endowed with an incredible brain, made in the image of the Creator.
later peeps, i gotta go watch some episodes of Heroes. evolution belongs in sci-fi shows..
It's not really that big a leap. I'm explaining the development of our brains' advantage over primates over eons, keep that in mind. The only major thing is that it made abstract thinking 'second nature'. You don't really seem to follow me here. Our brain is not drastically different. And when you say 'later peeps', you make me worry I waste my time responding.But again, no other apes happened to have gone there way of doing that.
[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="-R3Vo"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Logical Fallacy: Appeal to Ridicule-R3Vo
You're explanation is logical fallacy, at least imo. but if you want to believe it it's your choice
You can't say, 'in my opinion, this is a logical fallacy' and expect that to hold up. That's not even trying to say 'it's just opinion, leave it be', you're saying that your OPINION determines the validity of others' LOGIC.No i was saying it's an illogical conclusion in my opinion. maybe it's logical to him. whatever he thinks
Your concepts of logic are broken.
I'm with you. Put away the thesaurus, just because the word looks big doesn't mean it will make your sentences make sense.
I'm not defining logic. Sometimes we'd have to leave it to opinion such as this case.
Never said you were.
So how was my concept of it broken?
[QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"]The entire reason that humans are more intelligent than other primates is that for whatever reason we got out of the trees often enough and long enough to develop hands with better dexterity. What this in turn led to was the crafting of very, very primitive tools, and then the brain began to evolve to think abstractly to plan the creation of these tools and that is the only reason that humans are any more intelligent than other species; we crashed stones together until we got a little smarter. Now we do the same with atoms.and humans weren't because?
Revinh
You expect me to believe humans have far greater capabilities and potential simply because of that?
You may not because of other desires and fears and such you have which steer you away from this conclusion, but it is the logical conclusion, yes. The reason humans have such intellectual capacity was necesitated by the creation of essentially primitive tools. It forced us to think abstractly, to plan, and to use spatial logic, which has also helped us to develop complex structures in our language, another important thing.No, because it IS a huge leap, and the fact is no other apes went their way of doing that, for some reason only humans did. It's up to you to believe your speculation. It's far more logical to me that we were created separate and different from apes/animals and didn't evolve from some ape like ancestor, endowed with an incredible brain, made in the image of the Creator.
later peeps, i gotta go watch some episodes of Heroes. evolution belongs in sci-fi shows..
Id say the same for religion.
I haven't heard an intelligent response from you
Ive had my fair share of religious debate,for now i choose to spectate,besides it would lead nowhere.
[QUOTE="-R3Vo"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="-R3Vo"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Logical Fallacy: Appeal to RidiculeRevinh
You're explanation is logical fallacy, at least imo. but if you want to believe it it's your choice
You can't say, 'in my opinion, this is a logical fallacy' and expect that to hold up. That's not even trying to say 'it's just opinion, leave it be', you're saying that your OPINION determines the validity of others' LOGIC.No i was saying it's an illogical conclusion in my opinion. maybe it's logical to him. whatever he thinks
Your concepts of logic are broken.
I'm with you. Put away the thesaurus, just because the word looks big doesn't mean it will make your sentences make sense.
I'm not defining logic. Sometimes we'd have to leave it to opinion such as this case.
Never said you were.
So how was my concept of it broken?
That was me who said that big guy.
[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"]The entire reason that humans are more intelligent than other primates is that for whatever reason we got out of the trees often enough and long enough to develop hands with better dexterity. What this in turn led to was the crafting of very, very primitive tools, and then the brain began to evolve to think abstractly to plan the creation of these tools and that is the only reason that humans are any more intelligent than other species; we crashed stones together until we got a little smarter. Now we do the same with atoms.and humans weren't because?
xxDustmanxx
You expect me to believe humans have far greater capabilities and potential simply because of that?
You may not because of other desires and fears and such you have which steer you away from this conclusion, but it is the logical conclusion, yes. The reason humans have such intellectual capacity was necesitated by the creation of essentially primitive tools. It forced us to think abstractly, to plan, and to use spatial logic, which has also helped us to develop complex structures in our language, another important thing.No, because it IS a huge leap, and the fact is no other apes went their way of doing that, for some reason only humans did. It's up to you to believe your speculation. It's far more logical to me that we were created separate and different from apes/animals and didn't evolve from some ape like ancestor, endowed with an incredible brain, made in the image of the Creator.
later peeps, i gotta go watch some episodes of Heroes. evolution belongs in sci-fi shows..
Id say the same for religion.
I haven't heard an intelligent response from you
Ive had my fair share of religious debate,for now i choose to spectate,besides it would lead nowhere.
then there's no use for you to say it's same for religion without saying much more
[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="-R3Vo"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="-R3Vo"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Logical Fallacy: Appeal to Ridicule-R3Vo
You're explanation is logical fallacy, at least imo. but if you want to believe it it's your choice
You can't say, 'in my opinion, this is a logical fallacy' and expect that to hold up. That's not even trying to say 'it's just opinion, leave it be', you're saying that your OPINION determines the validity of others' LOGIC.No i was saying it's an illogical conclusion in my opinion. maybe it's logical to him. whatever he thinks
Your concepts of logic are broken.
I'm with you. Put away the thesaurus, just because the word looks big doesn't mean it will make your sentences make sense.
I'm not defining logic. Sometimes we'd have to leave it to opinion such as this case.
Never said you were.
So how was my concept of it broken?
That was me who said that big guy.
Uh, yeah... so how was it?
[QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"]The entire reason that humans are more intelligent than other primates is that for whatever reason we got out of the trees often enough and long enough to develop hands with better dexterity. What this in turn led to was the crafting of very, very primitive tools, and then the brain began to evolve to think abstractly to plan the creation of these tools and that is the only reason that humans are any more intelligent than other species; we crashed stones together until we got a little smarter. Now we do the same with atoms.and humans weren't because?
Revinh
You expect me to believe humans have far greater capabilities and potential simply because of that?
You may not because of other desires and fears and such you have which steer you away from this conclusion, but it is the logical conclusion, yes. The reason humans have such intellectual capacity was necesitated by the creation of essentially primitive tools. It forced us to think abstractly, to plan, and to use spatial logic, which has also helped us to develop complex structures in our language, another important thing.No, because it IS a huge leap, and the fact is no other apes went their way of doing that, for some reason only humans did. It's up to you to believe your speculation. It's far more logical to me that we were created separate and different from apes/animals and didn't evolve from some ape like ancestor, endowed with an incredible brain, made in the image of the Creator.
later peeps, i gotta go watch some episodes of Heroes. evolution belongs in sci-fi shows..
Id say the same for religion.
I haven't heard an intelligent response from you
Ive had my fair share of religious debate,for now i choose to spectate,besides it would lead nowhere.
then there's no use for you to say it's same for religion without saying much more
It was simply an under the breath response to the ignorant comment you made about evolution belonging in sci fi,as if it were fiction,when in-fact it is your view point that lacks evidence.
[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"]The entire reason that humans are more intelligent than other primates is that for whatever reason we got out of the trees often enough and long enough to develop hands with better dexterity. What this in turn led to was the crafting of very, very primitive tools, and then the brain began to evolve to think abstractly to plan the creation of these tools and that is the only reason that humans are any more intelligent than other species; we crashed stones together until we got a little smarter. Now we do the same with atoms.and humans weren't because?
xxDustmanxx
You expect me to believe humans have far greater capabilities and potential simply because of that?
You may not because of other desires and fears and such you have which steer you away from this conclusion, but it is the logical conclusion, yes. The reason humans have such intellectual capacity was necesitated by the creation of essentially primitive tools. It forced us to think abstractly, to plan, and to use spatial logic, which has also helped us to develop complex structures in our language, another important thing.No, because it IS a huge leap, and the fact is no other apes went their way of doing that, for some reason only humans did. It's up to you to believe your speculation. It's far more logical to me that we were created separate and different from apes/animals and didn't evolve from some ape like ancestor, endowed with an incredible brain, made in the image of the Creator.
later peeps, i gotta go watch some episodes of Heroes. evolution belongs in sci-fi shows..
Id say the same for religion.
I haven't heard an intelligent response from you
Ive had my fair share of religious debate,for now i choose to spectate,besides it would lead nowhere.
then there's no use for you to say it's same for religion without saying much more
It was simply an under the breath response to the ignorant comment you made about evolution belonging in sci fi,as if it were fiction,when in-fact it is your view point that lacks evidence.
Well, it's obvious you haven't really been paying attention to the posts I made.
"Belief" is an extremely skewed word to use to describe the Theory of Evolution. In the scientific world, you cannot "believe" anything per se. Belief implies adhering or following an idea without regards to reason, observation, or any sort of evidence, the opposite of science. In fact, there is so much evidence to support the theory of evolution that the "beliefs" of these zealots are essentially unimportant. However, it is very sad indeed that such a large percentage of the American population willingly chooses pure ignorance over the truth. People say "I don't believe in evolution" and think that for some reason their pathetic, uneducated opinion actually holds water in a serious debate. They are wrong. Nobody gives a damn if you personally think that evolution makes sense. It has essentially been proven scientifically, so if you want to challenge it you better come up with a better theory then "everything was magically created from nothing" and you better have an awful lot of evidence to back it up.
Non-evolutionists, ID'ers, or anyone else who is interested, watch this video if you get the chance
http://youtube.com/watch?v=JVRsWAjvQSg
It's very long, but it pretty much destroys the entire "theory" of intelligent design and describes in plain words the abundant evidence for evolution.
[QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"]The entire reason that humans are more intelligent than other primates is that for whatever reason we got out of the trees often enough and long enough to develop hands with better dexterity. What this in turn led to was the crafting of very, very primitive tools, and then the brain began to evolve to think abstractly to plan the creation of these tools and that is the only reason that humans are any more intelligent than other species; we crashed stones together until we got a little smarter. Now we do the same with atoms.and humans weren't because?
Revinh
You expect me to believe humans have far greater capabilities and potential simply because of that?
You may not because of other desires and fears and such you have which steer you away from this conclusion, but it is the logical conclusion, yes. The reason humans have such intellectual capacity was necesitated by the creation of essentially primitive tools. It forced us to think abstractly, to plan, and to use spatial logic, which has also helped us to develop complex structures in our language, another important thing.No, because it IS a huge leap, and the fact is no other apes went their way of doing that, for some reason only humans did. It's up to you to believe your speculation. It's far more logical to me that we were created separate and different from apes/animals and didn't evolve from some ape like ancestor, endowed with an incredible brain, made in the image of the Creator.
later peeps, i gotta go watch some episodes of Heroes. evolution belongs in sci-fi shows..
Id say the same for religion.
I haven't heard an intelligent response from you
Ive had my fair share of religious debate,for now i choose to spectate,besides it would lead nowhere.
then there's no use for you to say it's same for religion without saying much more
It was simply an under the breath response to the ignorant comment you made about evolution belonging in sci fi,as if it were fiction,when in-fact it is your view point that lacks evidence.
Well, it's obvious you haven't really been paying attention to the posts I made.
Yes,i have.You clearly stated that evolution belongs in sci fi,am i correct?
No that response still implies a frog will give birth to a non frog, but now with longer time. That's not what evolution says. A frog has always birthed frogs, and they will always birth frogs.No, a frog won't do that, at least not in millions of years :lol: My point is that's basically what evolutionist believe, that creatures can go shapeshifting given enough time. I know enough to know the theory is false. If you want to believe in a fairy tale that's up to you.
Revinh
It IS scientifically and historically accurate. How was the flood disproven?
And while we're at it why don't you explain the humans' far greater capabilities than apes or any animal for that matter?
Revinh
1) Not enough water in the world both above and below ground to cause it.
2) For extraterrestrial sources to cause it the atmosphere would have been basically boiled upon the comet entering the atmosphere.
3) The building materials of the time were not sufficient for the supposed dimensions of the ark.
4) No part of the supposed ark was ever located despite it likely having landed in a glacier if the geography is to be believed.
The history channel had a pretty thorough piece on the whole matter.
As for our greater capabilities? No simple answer really does us justice but theres a few pretty simple things which explain much of it:
1) Opposable thumbs, these are not unique
2) Human intelligence, many other creatures are also highly intelligent
3) Speech, the really big distinguishing factor which could have easily evolved.
No, a frog won't do that, at least not in millions of years :lol: My point is that's basically what evolutionist believe, that creatures can go shapeshifting given enough time. I know enough to know the theory is false. If you want to believe in a fairy tale that's up to you.
Revinh
That is not even close to what scientists and all rational people believe. Frogs are amphibians, humans are mammals, we fall under entirely different categories in Kingdom Animalia and so can not evolve from each other, at least not directly although given enough time a similar species could evolve from amphibians.
We do however have a common ancestor.
[QUOTE="Revinh"]It IS scientifically and historically accurate. How was the flood disproven?
And while we're at it why don't you explain the humans' far greater capabilities than apes or any animal for that matter?
Aidenfury19
1) Not enough water in the world both above and below ground to cause it.
2) For extraterrestrial sources to cause it the atmosphere would have been basically boiled upon the comet entering the atmosphere.
3) The building materials of the time were not sufficient for the supposed dimensions of the ark.
4) No part of the supposed ark was ever located despite it likely having landed in a glacier if the geography is to be believed.
The history channel had a pretty thorough piece on the whole matter.
As for our greater capabilities? No simple answer really does us justice but theres a few pretty simple things which explain much of it:
1) Opposable thumbs, these are not unique
2) Human intelligence, many other creatures are also highly intelligent
3) Speech, the really big distinguishing factor which could have easily evolved.
No, a frog won't do that, at least not in millions of years :lol: My point is that's basically what evolutionist believe, that creatures can go shapeshifting given enough time. I know enough to know the theory is false. If you want to believe in a fairy tale that's up to you.
Revinh
That is not even close to what scientists and all rational people believe. Frogs are amphibians, humans are mammals, we fall under entirely different categories in Kingdom Animalia and so can not evolve from each other, at least not directly although given enough time a similar species could evolve from amphibians.
We do however have a common ancestor.
I heard whales are linquisticly more complex than humansNo I don't believe Darwins theory, the only people who do are those devout zealots brainwashed by the Darwinian religion.
Revinh
Oh Revin, don't you relise that everyone here could say that you're only one of those devout zealots brainwashed by the Christian religion?
There is no such thing as "Darwinism" or the "Darwininan religion". Just the Theory of Evolution, which you fail to fully understand and hence fail to argue against without bringing your religious bias in to it. Nothing you have presented has disproven The Theory of Evolution as a whole nor have you proven anything scientific about Intelligent Design.
I think everyone here might learn something in these six videos, starting with The 1st Foundational Falsehood of Creationism. That means you too, Revinh! If you can, after watching this, argue Intelligent Design scientificially and without slandering Evolution or referencing Genesis (a creation story) or the Bible, then I'm all ears.
To be honest, I have sort of created my own theory throughout years of studying these controversial topics. I believe that in the beginning there was a god, however once he created matter and the space that surrounds us, and then evolution took it's course. And I mean going way back to the big bang (Which is not for sure), but the belief of evolving from a common ancestor of apes is included in my theory. I'm not sure if this is already a theory created, correct me if I'm wrong please. Everything in this life is much to complex to be created by nothing, there has been some divine intervention some where.-R3Vo
That's basically my belief, if you look on page 12. I'm a proud catholic, and creationism sometimes really ticks me off. I forgot, does anyone know where the book of Genesis (adam and eve, noah) came from/was adapted from?
yeah and no
No I don't believe Darwins theory, the only people who do are those devout zealots brainwashed by the Darwinian religion.RevinhLogical fallacy of ad hominem.
The Theory of Evolution is now a FACT people, so it should be called the "Fact of Evolution".JCbluesideNo, a fact is an observed phenomenon. The theoy of evolution is the explanation of many phenomena; you do not take courses such as "cell fact", "atomic fact", "color fact", or "nuclear fact."
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No I don't believe Darwins theory, the only people who do are those devout zealots brainwashed by the Darwinian religion.
Red-XIII
Oh Revin, don't you relise that everyone here could say that you're only one of those devout zealots brainwashed by the Christian religion?
There is no such thing as "Darwinism" or the "Darwininan religion". Just the Theory of Evolution, which you fail to fully understand and hence fail to argue against without bringing your religious bias in to it. Nothing you have presented has disproven The Theory of Evolution as a whole nor have you proven anything scientific about Intelligent Design.
I think everyone here might learn something in these six videos, starting with The 1st Foundational Falsehood of Creationism. That means you too, Revinh! If you can, after watching this, argue Intelligent Design scientificially and without slandering Evolution or referencing Genesis (a creation story) or the Bible, then I'm all ears.
"Darwinism" is synonymous with the ideas presented in The Origin of the Species by Natural Selection. We do not use "Darwinism" for modern neo-Darwinism -- the initial theory did not have a mechanism for natural selection, only the observation of natural selection.false dichotomyI think Darwin's theory is a lot easier to belief than the Adam/Eve theory.
Darwin FTW
Fandangle
[QUOTE="Bourbons3"]Yes. The idea that we evolved from apes is a common misunderstanding. It states humans and apes had a common ancestor millions of years ago.james28893
Yup. Homo Sapiens evolved from Homo Erectus, or Homo Neanderthalis I think.
Tee-hee. Homo Erectus".Anyways, I don't see how one can not believe in Evolution. The amount of evidence is simply overwhelming.
[QUOTE="Fandangle"]false dichotomy He's specifically calling out a selection between those two, so it seems like a perfectly valid dichotomy to me.I think Darwin's theory is a lot easier to belief than the Adam/Eve theory.
Darwin FTW
notconspiracy
[QUOTE="JCblueside"]The Theory of Evolution is now a FACT people, so it should be called the "Fact of Evolution".CptJSparrowNo, a fact is an observed phenomenon. The theoy of evolution is the explanation of many phenomena; you do not take courses such as "cell fact", "atomic fact", "color fact", or "nuclear fact."
FACT: Evolution is happening right now with diseases such as Turburculosis, making new strains of TB that are immune to everything we throw at it.
EDIT: and the neo-Darwinism you keep on referring to is just the basic principles of Darwinism with modern discoveries such as genes and alleles to validate the theory even more
[QUOTE="PannicAtack"]Logical Fallacy: Appeal to RidiculeRevinh
You're explanation is logical fallacy, at least imo. but if you want to believe it it's your choice
Please explain how, instead of simply falling on the Appeal to Ridicule. You gave no argument, but instead simply chose mockery. I have not seen a single decent argument from you in this entire thread. >_>[QUOTE="Fandangle"]false dichotomy That is his subjective opinion, not a false dichotomy -- a false dichotomy would be compelling you to make a choice between the two, saying that they are mutually exclusive beyond a doubt.I think Darwin's theory is a lot easier to belief than the Adam/Eve theory.
Darwin FTW
notconspiracy
[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="JCblueside"]The Theory of Evolution is now a FACT people, so it should be called the "Fact of Evolution".hamstergeddonNo, a fact is an observed phenomenon. The theoy of evolution is the explanation of many phenomena; you do not take courses such as "cell fact", "atomic fact", "color fact", or "nuclear fact."
FACT: Evolution is happening right now with diseases such as Turburculosis, making new strains of TB that are immune to everything we throw at it. You did not understand me: if evolution occurs right now, that is a fact, but what is the explanation of evolution called? ;)
Neo-Darwinism is Darwin's theory with Mendel's genetics applied to it -- neo-Darwinism is the modern theory of evolution.EDIT: and the neo-Darwinism you keep on referring to is just the basic principles of Darwinism with modern discoveries such as genes and alleles to validate the theory even more
[QUOTE="notconspiracy"][QUOTE="Fandangle"]false dichotomy That is his subjective opinion, not a false dichotomy -- a false dichotomy would be compelling you to make a choice between the two, saying that they are mutually exclusive beyond a doubt.I think Darwin's theory is a lot easier to belief than the Adam/Eve theory.
Darwin FTW
CptJSparrow
[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="JCblueside"]The Theory of Evolution is now a FACT people, so it should be called the "Fact of Evolution".hamstergeddonNo, a fact is an observed phenomenon. The theoy of evolution is the explanation of many phenomena; you do not take courses such as "cell fact", "atomic fact", "color fact", or "nuclear fact."
FACT: Evolution is happening right now with diseases such as Turburculosis, making new strains of TB that are immune to everything we throw at it.
You did not understand me: if evolution occurs right now, that is a fact, but what is the explanation of evolution called? ;)
:question: I don't understand what you're getting at. Evolution is the explanation for how we came to be.
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