Do you believe in the Darwin Theory?

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="notconspiracy"][QUOTE="Fandangle"]

I think Darwin's theory is a lot easier to belief than the Adam/Eve theory.

Darwin FTW

hamstergeddon

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="JCblueside"]The Theory of Evolution is now a FACT people, so it should be called the "Fact of Evolution".hamstergeddon

You did not understand me: if evolution occurs right now, that is a fact, but what is the explanation of evolution called? ;)

:question: I don't understand what you're getting at. Evolution is the explanation for how we came to be.

organisms changing over time is a fact. but how they change, which is natural selection, is a theory.

:question: I don't understand what you're getting at. Evolution is the explanation for how we came to be. hamstergeddon

[QUOTE="Revinh"]

No, a frog won't do that, at least not in millions of years :lol: My point is that's basically what evolutionist believe, that creatures can go shapeshifting given enough time. I know enough to know the theory is false. If you want to believe in a fairy tale that's up to you.

C_Town_Soul

Exactly! which means humans have always been humans and they will always be humans, and therefore they must have been created to begin with.

Wake up from evodelusion people! We're clearly different from apes!

[QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

No, a frog won't do that, at least not in millions of years :lol: My point is that's basically what evolutionist believe, that creatures can go shapeshifting given enough time. I know enough to know the theory is false. If you want to believe in a fairy tale that's up to you.

Revinh

Exactly! which means humans have always been humans and they will always be humans, and therefore they must have been created to begin with.

Wake up from evodelusion people! We're clearly different from apes!

[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

No, a frog won't do that, at least not in millions of years :lol: My point is that's basically what evolutionist believe, that creatures can go shapeshifting given enough time. I know enough to know the theory is false. If you want to believe in a fairy tale that's up to you.

quiglythegreat

Exactly! which means humans have always been humans and they will always be humans, and therefore they must have been created to begin with.

Wake up from evodelusion people! We're clearly different from apes!

Really? Can the apes sing and dance, make artistic creations, and build houses? Do they have a seemingly endless learning capacity and the ability to accumulate knowledge? Do they farm and cultivate the ground? Do they study other plants and animals? Do they have complex, spoken language like us? Do they have technological facility? Do they have dominion over nature? Do they wear clothes? I didn't think so.

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

No, a frog won't do that, at least not in millions of years :lol: My point is that's basically what evolutionist believe, that creatures can go shapeshifting given enough time. I know enough to know the theory is false. If you want to believe in a fairy tale that's up to you.

Revinh

Exactly! which means humans have always been humans and they will always be humans, and therefore they must have been created to begin with.

Wake up from evodelusion people! We're clearly different from apes!

Really? Can the apes sing and dance, make artistic creations, and build houses? Do they have a seemingly endless learning capacity and the ability to accumulate knowledge? Do they farm and cultivate the ground? Do they study other plants and animals? Do they have complex, spoken language like us? Do they have technological facility? Do they have dominion over nature? Do they wear clothes? I didn't think so.

Silly Revinh they're gonna evolve and learn it all slowly. :roll:

(Sarcasm)

I was going to write a lot more, but I could sum it up in one word.

Doh.

i believe in God. darwin theory not a word of itNSR34GTR

same

[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

No, a frog won't do that, at least not in millions of years :lol: My point is that's basically what evolutionist believe, that creatures can go shapeshifting given enough time. I know enough to know the theory is false. If you want to believe in a fairy tale that's up to you.

123625

Exactly! which means humans have always been humans and they will always be humans, and therefore they must have been created to begin with.

Wake up from evodelusion people! We're clearly different from apes!

Really? Can the apes sing and dance, make artistic creations, and build houses? Do they have a seemingly endless learning capacity and the ability to accumulate knowledge? Do they farm and cultivate the ground? Do they study other plants and animals? Do they have complex, spoken language like us? Do they have technological facility? Do they have dominion over nature? Do they wear clothes? I didn't think so.

Silly Revinh they're gonna evolve and learn it all slowly. :roll:

Right, is that why we're so far ahead and none of them are currently on their way of doing that? :roll:

[QUOTE="NSR34GTR"]i believe in God. darwin theory not a word of itxSIZEMATTER

same

in the age of the internet, I fail to understand how anyone can deny evolution if they have taken any interest in it.

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

No, a frog won't do that, at least not in millions of years :lol: My point is that's basically what evolutionist believe, that creatures can go shapeshifting given enough time. I know enough to know the theory is false. If you want to believe in a fairy tale that's up to you.

Revinh

Exactly! which means humans have always been humans and they will always be humans, and therefore they must have been created to begin with.

Wake up from evodelusion people! We're clearly different from apes!

Really? Can the apes sing and dance, make artistic creations, and build houses? Do they have a seemingly endless learning capacity and the ability to accumulate knowledge? Do they farm and cultivate the ground? Do they study other plants and animals? Do they have complex, spoken language like us? Do they have technological facility? Do they have dominion over nature? Do they wear clothes? I didn't think so.

[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

No, a frog won't do that, at least not in millions of years :lol: My point is that's basically what evolutionist believe, that creatures can go shapeshifting given enough time. I know enough to know the theory is false. If you want to believe in a fairy tale that's up to you.

123625

Exactly! which means humans have always been humans and they will always be humans, and therefore they must have been created to begin with.

Wake up from evodelusion people! We're clearly different from apes!

Really? Can the apes sing and dance, make artistic creations, and build houses? Do they have a seemingly endless learning capacity and the ability to accumulate knowledge? Do they farm and cultivate the ground? Do they study other plants and animals? Do they have complex, spoken language like us? Do they have technological facility? Do they have dominion over nature? Do they wear clothes? I didn't think so.

Silly Revinh they're gonna evolve and learn it all slowly. :roll:

(Sarcasm)

[QUOTE="JCblueside"]The Theory of Evolution is now a FACT people, so it should be called the "Fact of Evolution".CptJSparrow

Then from your explanation, evolution is an observed phenomenon since biological evolution never stopped and it continue on to all life forms as time passes by.

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

No, a frog won't do that, at least not in millions of years :lol: My point is that's basically what evolutionist believe, that creatures can go shapeshifting given enough time. I know enough to know the theory is false. If you want to believe in a fairy tale that's up to you.

Revinh

Exactly! which means humans have always been humans and they will always be humans, and therefore they must have been created to begin with.

Wake up from evodelusion people! We're clearly different from apes!

Really? Can the apes sing and dance, make artistic creations, and build houses? Do they have a seemingly endless learning capacity and the ability to accumulate knowledge? Do they farm and cultivate the ground? Do they study other plants and animals? Do they have complex, spoken language like us? Do they have technological facility? Do they have dominion over nature? Do they wear clothes? I didn't think so.

You don't really know the fundamentals of evolution do you? Our ancestral primates migrated to different parts of the world when the map and land mass was still different from what we know of in our time and changed as time goes on. Our ancestors underwent the mechanism & processes of evolution depending on which environment they lived. Adaptation, genetic drift, gene flow, mutation, natural selecton, & speciation are among these processes. This is the work of biological's way of living efficiently and therefore survive ideally on a particular environment.

Its like a tree of evolution. As our ancestors migrateed through different places, the species is branched like branches of tree. Each of them evolved upon the environment they lived on and hence adaptation & changes occured. Some grew thick hairs in cold climates, others grew tall, dwarfed, developed advance inteligence, & etc. Most were unfortunate and became endangered and finally ending their branch of the species in extinction. Some of the fittest for survival lives on and not only we are one of those but we are clearly the fittest of the branch in our current existence.

[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

No, a frog won't do that, at least not in millions of years :lol: My point is that's basically what evolutionist believe, that creatures can go shapeshifting given enough time. I know enough to know the theory is false. If you want to believe in a fairy tale that's up to you.

yoshi-lnex

Exactly! which means humans have always been humans and they will always be humans, and therefore they must have been created to begin with.

Wake up from evodelusion people! We're clearly different from apes!

Really? Can the apes sing and dance, make artistic creations, and build houses? Do they have a seemingly endless learning capacity and the ability to accumulate knowledge? Do they farm and cultivate the ground? Do they study other plants and animals? Do they have complex, spoken language like us? Do they have technological facility? Do they have dominion over nature? Do they wear clothes? I didn't think so.

revinh, all those things which you listed are by-products of higher brain function. they in no way disprove evolutionnotconspiracy

I was talking about how humans are human different. Follow the conversation please.

[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

No, a frog won't do that, at least not in millions of years :lol: My point is that's basically what evolutionist believe, that creatures can go shapeshifting given enough time. I know enough to know the theory is false. If you want to believe in a fairy tale that's up to you.

JCblueside

Exactly! which means humans have always been humans and they will always be humans, and therefore they must have been created to begin with.

Wake up from evodelusion people! We're clearly different from apes!

Really? Can the apes sing and dance, make artistic creations, and build houses? Do they have a seemingly endless learning capacity and the ability to accumulate knowledge? Do they farm and cultivate the ground? Do they study other plants and animals? Do they have complex, spoken language like us? Do they have technological facility? Do they have dominion over nature? Do they wear clothes? I didn't think so.

You don't really know the fundamentals of evolution do you? Our ancestral primates migrated to different parts of the world when the map and land mass was still different from what we know of in our time and changed as time goes on. Our ancestors underwent the mechanism & processes of evolution depending on which environment they lived. Adaptation, genetic drift, gene flow, mutation, natural selecton, & speciation are among these processes. This is the work of biological's way of living efficiently and therefore survive ideally on a particular environment.

Its like a tree of evolution. As our ancestors migrateed through different places, the species is branched like branches of tree. Each of them evolved upon the environment they lived on and hence adaptation & changes occured. Some grew thick hairs in cold climates, others grew tall, dwarfed, developed advance inteligence, & etc. Most were unfortunate and became endangered and finally ending their branch of the species in extinction. Some of the fittest for survival lives on and not only we are one of those but we are clearly the fittest of the branch in our current existence.

No amount of evolution speculation can satisfactorily explain the human miracle. It's far more reasonable to think that creation accounts for it.

No amount of mutation can turn a living thing into something else.

The fossil record agrees with creation showing sudden appearances of creatures virtually unchanged over long periods of time. Are there in fact intermediate forms or are they just desperate attempts to make the data fit with the theory? You'll probably say there are, but I encourage you to investigate if that's really the case.

yep, we definetly changed for the betterpremier111

or for worse...and damn this thread is still up? >_>

Yes, and :lol: at the people who denies it.

[QUOTE="JCblueside"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

No, a frog won't do that, at least not in millions of years :lol: My point is that's basically what evolutionist believe, that creatures can go shapeshifting given enough time. I know enough to know the theory is false. If you want to believe in a fairy tale that's up to you.

Revinh

Exactly! which means humans have always been humans and they will always be humans, and therefore they must have been created to begin with.

Wake up from evodelusion people! We're clearly different from apes!

Really? Can the apes sing and dance, make artistic creations, and build houses? Do they have a seemingly endless learning capacity and the ability to accumulate knowledge? Do they farm and cultivate the ground? Do they study other plants and animals? Do they have complex, spoken language like us? Do they have technological facility? Do they have dominion over nature? Do they wear clothes? I didn't think so.

You don't really know the fundamentals of evolution do you? Our ancestral primates migrated to different parts of the world when the map and land mass was still different from what we know of in our time and changed as time goes on. Our ancestors underwent the mechanism & processes of evolution depending on which environment they lived. Adaptation, genetic drift, gene flow, mutation, natural selecton, & speciation are among these processes. This is the work of biological's way of living efficiently and therefore survive ideally on a particular environment.

Its like a tree of evolution. As our ancestors migrateed through different places, the species is branched like branches of tree. Each of them evolved upon the environment they lived on and hence adaptation & changes occured. Some grew thick hairs in cold climates, others grew tall, dwarfed, developed advance inteligence, & etc. Most were unfortunate and became endangered and finally ending their branch of the species in extinction. Some of the fittest for survival lives on and not only we are one of those but we are clearly the fittest of the branch in our current existence.

No amount of evolution speculation can satisfactorily explain the human miracle. It's far more reasonable to think that creation accounts for it.

No amount of mutation can turn a living thing into something else.

The fossil record agrees with creation showing sudden appearances of creatures virtually unchanged over long periods of time. Are there in fact intermediate forms or are they just desperate attempts to make the data fit with the theory? You'll probably say there are, but I encourage you to investigate if that's really the case.

second, at what point will "something" be "something else"?

and no, the fossil record does NOT agree with creation. there are numerous intermediate fossils out there. we have transtitionals from reptiles to mammals, reptiles to birds, apes to humans, land mammals to cetaceans, fish to amphibians, and amphibians to reptiles

[QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

No, a frog won't do that, at least not in millions of years :lol: My point is that's basically what evolutionist believe, that creatures can go shapeshifting given enough time. I know enough to know the theory is false. If you want to believe in a fairy tale that's up to you.

Revinh

Exactly! which means humans have always been humans and they will always be humans, and therefore they must have been created to begin with.

Wake up from evodelusion people! We're clearly different from apes!

That doesn't imply that there is a creator.

And humans are apes

Yes I believe Darwins theory, the only people who don't are those devout zealots brainwashed by religion.Spartan_385

I completely agree.

there's no proof for either theory. Although there's more evidence for the creation theory. Plus it makes more sense.mohfrontline

there's no proof for either theory. Although there's more evidence for the creation theory. Plus it makes more sense.mohfrontline

And I suppose you can provide this super-special-awesome evidence for Creation which has eluded scientists for so long?

there's no proof for either theory. Although there's more evidence for the creation theory. Plus it makes more sense.mohfrontline

This is like Darwin Week meets Opposite Day. Did you have a dyslexic moment, or are you seriously saying that Creationism has more evidence than Evolution? Over 200,000 researched articles vs. the Bible.

there's no proof for either theory. Although there's more evidence for the creation theory. Plus it makes more sense.mohfrontline

[QUOTE="mohfrontline"]there's no proof for either theory. Although there's more evidence for the creation theory. Plus it makes more sense.dsmccracken

This is like Darwin Week meets Opposite Day. Did you have a dyslexic moment, or are you seriously saying that Creationism has more evidence than Evolution? Over 200,000 researched articles vs. the Bible.

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"]

[QUOTE="mohfrontline"]there's no proof for either theory. Although there's more evidence for the creation theory. Plus it makes more sense.deepdreamer256

This is like Darwin Week meets Opposite Day. Did you have a dyslexic moment, or are you seriously saying that Creationism has more evidence than Evolution? Over 200,000 researched articles vs. the Bible.

Political quacks... is that what we're calling scientists with years of education, training and research now? As opposed to, what? Pat Robertson, with his Bachelor of Arts? Why go to school to learn about the world when, darn it, the truth was in your heart the whole time!

[QUOTE="deepdreamer256"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"]

[QUOTE="mohfrontline"]there's no proof for either theory. Although there's more evidence for the creation theory. Plus it makes more sense.dsmccracken

This is like Darwin Week meets Opposite Day. Did you have a dyslexic moment, or are you seriously saying that Creationism has more evidence than Evolution? Over 200,000 researched articles vs. the Bible.

Political quacks... is that what we're calling scientists with years of education, training and research now? As opposed to, what? Pat Robertson, with his Bachelor of Arts? Why go to school to learn about the world when, darn it, the truth was in your heart the whole time!

I can't believe that people actually believes in God and says evolution is stupid.

Just look at cows. Farmers mate them to get the right genes in the right cows and hence enhancing them to be better. Isn't that pretty much a proof that evolution is possible?

there's no proof for either theory. Although there's more evidence for the creation theory. Plus it makes more sense.mohfrontline

I can't believe that people actually believes in God and says evolution is stupid.

Just look at cows. Farmers mate them to get the right genes in the right cows and hence enhancing them to be better. Isn't that pretty much a proof that evolution is possible?

casparmorch

[QUOTE="mohfrontline"]there's no proof for either theory. Although there's more evidence for the creation theory. Plus it makes more sense.notconspiracy

I can't believe that people actually believes in God and says evolution is stupid.

Just look at cows. Farmers mate them to get the right genes in the right cows and hence enhancing them to be better. Isn't that pretty much a proof that evolution is possible?

casparmorch

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

No, a frog won't do that, at least not in millions of years :lol: My point is that's basically what evolutionist believe, that creatures can go shapeshifting given enough time. I know enough to know the theory is false. If you want to believe in a fairy tale that's up to you.

Revinh

Exactly! which means humans have always been humans and they will always be humans, and therefore they must have been created to begin with.

Wake up from evodelusion people! We're clearly different from apes!

Really? Can the apes sing and dance, make artistic creations, and build houses? Do they have a seemingly endless learning capacity and the ability to accumulate knowledge? Do they farm and cultivate the ground? Do they study other plants and animals? Do they have complex, spoken language like us? Do they have technological facility? Do they have dominion over nature? Do they wear clothes? I didn't think so.

To end this thread and the ignorance of all the doubters towards Evolution, have you all heard the thing called Deoxyribonucleic acid or DNA, you know the building blocks of life? That basically is the ultimate genetic piece that proves Evolution is real and is happening. Anyone who still doesnt believe in Evolution is probably either uncivilized, too young to understand, or trying to ignore this facts due to his Religious beliefs.

[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

No, a frog won't do that, at least not in millions of years :lol: My point is that's basically what evolutionist believe, that creatures can go shapeshifting given enough time. I know enough to know the theory is false. If you want to believe in a fairy tale that's up to you.

C_Town_Soul

Exactly! which means humans have always been humans and they will always be humans, and therefore they must have been created to begin with.

Wake up from evodelusion people! We're clearly different from apes!

That doesn't imply that there is a creator.

And humans are apes

Still don't understand. You're taking variation and extending it which isn't really plausible.

If humans have always been humans and were never anything else then they must have been created to begin with.

And I already explained the human difference.

[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

No, a frog won't do that, at least not in millions of years :lol: My point is that's basically what evolutionist believe, that creatures can go shapeshifting given enough time. I know enough to know the theory is false. If you want to believe in a fairy tale that's up to you.

quiglythegreat

Exactly! which means humans have always been humans and they will always be humans, and therefore they must have been created to begin with.

Wake up from evodelusion people! We're clearly different from apes!

Really? Can the apes sing and dance, make artistic creations, and build houses? Do they have a seemingly endless learning capacity and the ability to accumulate knowledge? Do they farm and cultivate the ground? Do they study other plants and animals? Do they have complex, spoken language like us? Do they have technological facility? Do they have dominion over nature? Do they wear clothes? I didn't think so.

That's all a product of humans' superior spatial logic which I have already explained. You insist that we at no point could ever have been like apes in any way, though you have provided no reasons why, stating again and again that you are different from an ape, almost as if you were insecure about it. Ok, we are, not terribly, and the ways we are different derive from evolution. I have already explained how this change commenced and again I remind you that humans' advantage over all other animals is the ability to think abstractly.

Again, I was saying that this whole human difference - intellectual and spiritual superiority, etc - is an embarassment to evolution. Why do humans have an amazing brain, and like you said abstract thinking, and significantly more potential than any animal? How did it go from a "dumb" ape to a human with incredible mind? To simply say that they 'evolved' because of "their environment" or whatever is sorely inadequate. I don't know about you but I find that very difficult to believe.

[QUOTE="xSIZEMATTER"]

[QUOTE="NSR34GTR"]i believe in God. darwin theory not a word of itnotconspiracy

same

why dont you believe in natural selection? care to talk about it?

in the age of the internet, I fail to understand how anyone can deny evolution if they have taken any interest in it.

'cause they're not gullible enough

[QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

No, a frog won't do that, at least not in millions of years :lol: My point is that's basically what evolutionist believe, that creatures can go shapeshifting given enough time. I know enough to know the theory is false. If you want to believe in a fairy tale that's up to you.

Revinh

Exactly! which means humans have always been humans and they will always be humans, and therefore they must have been created to begin with.

Wake up from evodelusion people! We're clearly different from apes!

That doesn't imply that there is a creator.

And humans are apes

Still don't understand. You're taking variation and extending it which isn't really plausible.

If humans have always been humans and were never anything else then they must have been created to begin with.

And I already explained the human difference.

Actually we are technically considered "great apes", and we will always be apes, though we will continue to evolve.I dont see whats your beef with evolution, its backed by evidence and study, its been proven, and tested, if for some reason its false, which is unlikely but possible then we continue to research and study alternatives.

Really, what are your motives?Why are you so desperate to disprove evolution?

[QUOTE="notconspiracy"][QUOTE="xSIZEMATTER"]

[QUOTE="NSR34GTR"]i believe in God. darwin theory not a word of itRevinh

same

why dont you believe in natural selection? care to talk about it?

in the age of the internet, I fail to understand how anyone can deny evolution if they have taken any interest in it.

'cause they're not gullible enough

Surprisingly enough though, said individual is gullible enough to fall for creationism.

[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

No, a frog won't do that, at least not in millions of years :lol: My point is that's basically what evolutionist believe, that creatures can go shapeshifting given enough time. I know enough to know the theory is false. If you want to believe in a fairy tale that's up to you.

xxDustmanxx

Exactly! which means humans have always been humans and they will always be humans, and therefore they must have been created to begin with.

Wake up from evodelusion people! We're clearly different from apes!

That doesn't imply that there is a creator.

And humans are apes

Still don't understand. You're taking variation and extending it which isn't really plausible.

If humans have always been humans and were never anything else then they must have been created to begin with.

And I already explained the human difference.

Actually we are technically considered "great apes", and we will always be apes, though we will continue to evolve.I dont see whats your beef with evolution, its backed by evidence and study, its been proven, and tested, if for some reason its false, which is unlikely but possible then we continue to research and study alternatives.

Really, what are your motives?Why are you so desperate to disprove evolution?

Call it whatever you want it doesn't change the fact that we are different.

It's been proven and tested? lol and then it could still be false? you make sense

How am I so desperate? I've just been posting my thoughts that all. I might just seem that way because a whole bunch of apes, or I mean, people are the opposing belief as mine and I'm having to tackle them all.

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

No, a frog won't do that, at least not in millions of years :lol: My point is that's basically what evolutionist believe, that creatures can go shapeshifting given enough time. I know enough to know the theory is false. If you want to believe in a fairy tale that's up to you.

Revinh

Exactly! which means humans have always been humans and they will always be humans, and therefore they must have been created to begin with.

Wake up from evodelusion people! We're clearly different from apes!

Really? Can the apes sing and dance, make artistic creations, and build houses? Do they have a seemingly endless learning capacity and the ability to accumulate knowledge? Do they farm and cultivate the ground? Do they study other plants and animals? Do they have complex, spoken language like us? Do they have technological facility? Do they have dominion over nature? Do they wear clothes? I didn't think so.

That's all a product of humans' superior spatial logic which I have already explained. You insist that we at no point could ever have been like apes in any way, though you have provided no reasons why, stating again and again that you are different from an ape, almost as if you were insecure about it. Ok, we are, not terribly, and the ways we are different derive from evolution. I have already explained how this change commenced and again I remind you that humans' advantage over all other animals is the ability to think abstractly.

Again, I was saying that this whole human difference - intellectual and spiritual superiority, etc - is an embarassment to evolution. Why do humans have an amazing brain, and like you said abstract thinking, and significantly more potential than any animal? How did it go from a "dumb" ape to a human with incredible mind? To simply say that they 'evolved' because of "their environment" or whatever is sorely inadequate. I don't know about you but I find that very difficult to believe.

First of all, the human spirit has not been proven to exist.

Humans have an amazing brain because it has evolved...its been explained to you many times, now your just plugging your ears.

All animals have the potential to evolve to our level, we simply were set up in certain circumstances to evolve beyond our ape ancestors.

Apes arent dump, for example homo sapien.

I find it difficult to believe that with the overwhelming amount of evidence you wont give up.

[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="notconspiracy"][QUOTE="xSIZEMATTER"]

[QUOTE="NSR34GTR"]i believe in God. darwin theory not a word of itxxDustmanxx

same

why dont you believe in natural selection? care to talk about it?

in the age of the internet, I fail to understand how anyone can deny evolution if they have taken any interest in it.

'cause they're not gullible enough

Surprisingly enough though, said individual is gullible enough to fall for creationism.

Whatever you say, great ape

[QUOTE="xxDustmanxx"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

No, a frog won't do that, at least not in millions of years :lol: My point is that's basically what evolutionist believe, that creatures can go shapeshifting given enough time. I know enough to know the theory is false. If you want to believe in a fairy tale that's up to you.

Revinh

Exactly! which means humans have always been humans and they will always be humans, and therefore they must have been created to begin with.

Wake up from evodelusion people! We're clearly different from apes!

That doesn't imply that there is a creator.

And humans are apes

Still don't understand. You're taking variation and extending it which isn't really plausible.

If humans have always been humans and were never anything else then they must have been created to begin with.

And I already explained the human difference.

Actually we are technically considered "great apes", and we will always be apes, though we will continue to evolve.I dont see whats your beef with evolution, its backed by evidence and study, its been proven, and tested, if for some reason its false, which is unlikely but possible then we continue to research and study alternatives.

Really, what are your motives?Why are you so desperate to disprove evolution?

Call it whatever you want it doesn't change the fact that we are different.

It's been proven and tested? lol and then it could still be false? you make sense

How am I so desperate? I've just been posting my thoughts that all. I might just seem that way because a whole bunch of apes, or I mean, people are the opposing belief as mine and I'm having to tackle them all.

We arent so different from alot of our cousins, youd be surprised if you bothered to look into it.

It could be false,(although highly unlikely.)because science constantly tests its own theories.

Every night im on here, youre on some thread duking it out with someone, over how evolution is so false, and you cant believe that our species evolved over time, wow it sounds so ridiculous.

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No, a frog won't do that, at least not in millions of years :lol: My point is that's basically what evolutionist believe, that creatures can go shapeshifting given enough time. I know enough to know the theory is false. If you want to believe in a fairy tale that's up to you.

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Exactly! which means humans have always been humans and they will always be humans, and therefore they must have been created to begin with.

Wake up from evodelusion people! We're clearly different from apes!

Really? Can the apes sing and dance, make artistic creations, and build houses? Do they have a seemingly endless learning capacity and the ability to accumulate knowledge? Do they farm and cultivate the ground? Do they study other plants and animals? Do they have complex, spoken language like us? Do they have technological facility? Do they have dominion over nature? Do they wear clothes? I didn't think so.

That's all a product of humans' superior spatial logic which I have already explained. You insist that we at no point could ever have been like apes in any way, though you have provided no reasons why, stating again and again that you are different from an ape, almost as if you were insecure about it. Ok, we are, not terribly, and the ways we are different derive from evolution. I have already explained how this change commenced and again I remind you that humans' advantage over all other animals is the ability to think abstractly.

Again, I was saying that this whole human difference - intellectual and spiritual superiority, etc - is an embarassment to evolution. Why do humans have an amazing brain, and like you said abstract thinking, and significantly more potential than any animal? How did it go from a "dumb" ape to a human with incredible mind? To simply say that they 'evolved' because of "their environment" or whatever is sorely inadequate. I don't know about you but I find that very difficult to believe.

First of all, the human spirit has not been proven to exist.

Humans have an amazing brain because it has evolved...its been explained to you many times, now your just plugging your ears.

All animals have the potential to evolve to our level, we simply were set up in certain circumstances to evolve beyond our ape ancestors.

Apes arent dump, for example homo sapien.

I find it difficult to believe that with the overwhelming amount of evidence you wont give up.

First of all, I wasn't talking about "the human spirit" but moral values.

Like I said, if you find that easy to believe that's your problem.

Two words: vague and speculation.

When I say apes, I'm obviously excluding humans if you categorize them as also apes.

Because they'll all weak even if you combine the "overwhelming amount" of them.