Do you believe in the Darwin Theory?

Only in America would there actually be people that believe that this theory is not true :P. Have you guys ever wondered why it is that only a handful of you still believe in creationism. Scientific theory has disproved almost everything in the bible and most Christians have excepted that, but still look to the good book for guidance on how to live a good life.

Also why are your beliefs of how humans came to be anymore accurate than those of other relgions? There have been so many different gods worshipped by every human civilisation, so why is yours the only true one? You talk as if humans have always existed, but we have existed for 15,000 years of the Earth's life (longer than the Earth's life if you belive the zealots stupid theory) and there were many species of animals there before us, most importantly apes.

Through natural selection humans slowly branched off from apes and formed their own species, slowly developing higher brain functions (the ability to make tools, reason etc.) the ability to stand upright and the loss of fur. It has all been documented and there is proof if your willing to look for it. You however have not given any proof other than a 2000 year old book which ideas have become very quickly outdated, so much so that it now looks like a work of fiction.

[QUOTE="Revinh"]

I already posted www.creationevolution.net

top evidences against evolution

C_Town_Soul

Evidence 1 basically states that there are no transitional fossils which is false. There have been countless numbers of transitional fossils found. Horse Evolution for example.

Evidence 2 states natural selection cannont happen which is wrong. It fails to take into consideration favorable traits being passed on and the likelyhood that these traits will continue to be passed on in successive generations while unfavorable traits become less common. That is basically the gist of natural selection. It also talks about gene mutations, which are rare and usually deletarious to a species, however current research suggests that they hardly have a role in evolution as once believed. And besides they don't take into consideration that a harmful mutation for an organism will lessen the likelyhood of survival and the chance to pass it on.

Evidence 3 talks about abiogenisis, life from non life, yet that has nothing to do with evolution. That's a totally different subject.

Evidence 4: the first 3 reasons are probably quote-mined as most creationist love to do. Talks about specific fossils, like lucy, and how they were basing hypothesis on a couple bones. Lucy is actually 40% complete. The site claims that you can't learn much from a few bones but you can. For Lucy, you can tell by the width of the pelvic bone that she's a female. About Piltdown man, everyone knows it's a hoax. Uh there are plenty of other ancestral human species found. Here's a list:

This list is in chronological order by genus.

• Sahelanthropus
  • Sahelanthropus tchadensis
• Orrorin
  • Orrorin tugenensis
• Ardipithecus
  • Ardipithecus kadabba
  • Ardipithecus ramidus
• Australopithecus
  • Australopithecus anamensis
  • Australopithecus afarensis
  • Australopithecus bahrelghazali
  • Australopithecus africanus
  • Australopithecus garhi
• Paranthropus
  • Paranthropus aethiopicus
  • Paranthropus boisei
  • Paranthropus robustus
• Kenyanthropus
  • Kenyanthropus platyops
• Homo
  • Homo habilis
  • Homo rudolfensis
  • Homo ergaster
  • Homo georgicus
  • Homo erectus
  • Homo cepranensis
  • Homo antecessor
  • Homo heidelbergensis
  • Homo rhodesiensis
  • Homo neanderthalensis
  • Homo sapiens idaltu
  • Homo sapiens (Cro-magnon)
  • Homo sapiens sapiens
  • Homo floresiensis

Evidence 5: Pretty much the same response as above. I will add that they mention a couple of the fossils have crests on there head and thus can't be ancestors to us. That actually suggest they split onto another branch of the tree.

Evidence 6: Says 3 main "ancestors" are actually human. They are completely different. Homo Erectus's brain is 75% of a human brain. Also sexual dimorphism is larger. Here is info on Neanderthals, I don't have time to explain all the differences. Cro-Magnon are the first homo sapiens. They had slightly larger cranial capacity. That's about it.

Evidence 7: Natural selection and social issues. It basically says because of survival of the fittest, you would become barbarians. Uh no. Because you have a favorable trait for the environmental conditions like a hairier body for a cold climate, doesn't make you a barbarian. It just means you're likely to survive and pass on that trait to the next generation while another from the same specie without that trait is likely to die.

Evidence 8: Basically says natural selection leads to there must be a common designer. Uh that basically contradicts what they previously stated before by saying natural selection doesn't happen and then saying it does happen because of an intelligent designer. Plus saying there's a common designer implies that there are multiple designers and they don't even realize this. Take a starfish and a human with their ancestors. Starfish and humans don't share many unique common characters. This implies each branch, so to say, must have it's own common designer which contradicts their religion in the first place!

Evidence 9: Says strata layers and fossils is best explained by a universal flood. If there was a universal flood, where are the fossils or the actual evidence of one? And how would one of each animal fit onto the ark if it existed?

I don't really have time to keep talking about evolution. www.creationevolution.net talked about the fossil horses and domatron23 and I discussed it in this thread and a bunch of other things. If you would read EVERYTHING there and maybe reread my posts here you'd get a good idea of my disbelief. I've debated in other threads before too, and I'm quite tired so I don't feel like continuing, it's probably likely that we'd just agree to disagree.

[QUOTE="JCblueside"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

[QUOTE="JCblueside"]What the heck Revinh!? Yur still going through this? :roll: I dont know if you overlooked my post earlier or not but once again I'm gonna repeat myself. Our Deoxyribonucleic acid or DNAand every other organism's DNA is the ultimate proof of evolution when compared. Since its the bulding blocks of life we can determine our ancestors & every other creature's ancestors through comparisons of the DNA samples. You can even find out that for example your a European and then through DNA samples from your gum salivas, the examiner can determine that you actually have traces of blood or genes of an Asian. Also Your forgetting or probably dont know that Evolution is happening in every life forms right now & never stops, the thing is you will never notice it at all but if you take a very long time span then you'll see the dramatic changes of life forms dur to evoluton. So yes our distinct intelligence is harnesed from evolution. Revinh

Yeah, my human ancestor can probably be traced. Traced beyond that of a human? Get lost.

:lol: Its official your ignorant, uncivilized, doesnt have a modern mind, doesnt know lot of things about Science, & still resembles beliefs of that of humans thousands of years ago, like the Greeks beliefs in Gods & Goddess of Olympus. In the future when the Human exploration for truth expands even further, people in the future will look at the community like you in our generaton like the way we look at the Greek community that believed in Greek Mythology thousands of years ago. Forgive me, I dont like disrespecting people but if you act this way it is inevitable that people will lose respect on you.

Yes we have traced our primate ancestors through DNA beyond that of just the human form we know today as DNA of creatures can be found in fossil teeths & hairs. Our DNA comprise of the same characeristics as our ancestral primates but with its own unique features that was harnesed by evolution and change. Same goes for Apes, Monkeys, Gorillaz, & etc. of whom has the same DNA foundation that we've got from our ancestos long long time ago. Alot of creatures has now been traced of its ancestors through DNAs, examples: T-Rex => Kumudo Dragon, Gaint Ground Sloth => Sloth, Sabretooth Tiger => Jaguar, & many more.

It's official you're an asshoIe..

You're the one believing in some mythical theory.

I don't really have time to keep talking about evolution. www.creationevolution.net talked about the fossil horses and domatron23 and I discussed it in this thread and a bunch of other things. If you would read EVERYTHING there and maybe reread my posts here you'd get a good idea of my disbelief. I've debated in other threads before too, and I'm quite tired so I don't feel like continuing, it's probably likely that we'd just agree to disagree.

Revinh

How can the rest of the site be anymore credible if the first reason can easily be proven false?

Anyone who believes in evolution is either:

A. Ignorant

B. Extremely stubborn/don't know it's seriously flawed

C. Crazy

D. Simply wants the theory to be true and brainwashed

I think most are probably D.

Revinh

My Irony meter was melting as I read this.

I will give you credit. you just don't know when to quit.

[QUOTE="Revinh"]

I don't really have time to keep talking about evolution. www.creationevolution.net talked about the fossil horses and domatron23 and I discussed it in this thread and a bunch of other things. If you would read EVERYTHING there and maybe reread my posts here you'd get a good idea of my disbelief. I've debated in other threads before too, and I'm quite tired so I don't feel like continuing, it's probably likely that we'd just agree to disagree.

C_Town_Soul

How can the rest of the site be anymore credible if the first reason can easily be proven false?

I'm not too familiar with IC but I don't think the site really dugged into that. And IF IC is flawed, I don't think it's reasonable to just discredit the entire site. Personally, my argument about compexity is that life don't become more complex, it's breaks down or in a way becomes simpler. Evolution states that a few simple beings a long time ago evolved to the complex, diverse life forms of today. But the flow of things don't go that way. If we started as this way and complex then we must have been created. Same for mutation - it's a degenerative change, opposite of evolution. The body breaks down even if it seems beneficial. Kind of like cutting off your finger as a way of surviving.

[QUOTE="Bourbons3"]Yes. The idea that we evolved from apes is a common misunderstanding. It states humans and apes had a common ancestor millions of years ago.james28893

Yup. Homo Sapiens evolved from Homo Erectus, or Homo Neanderthalis I think.

Homo Sapiens evolved from Homo neanderthalis and that was evolved from Homo heidelbergensis and that was evolved from Homo Erectus.

I don't see how anyone can't believe it... There is so much evidence to back it up. Even in human life time many species have evolved(minorly but still). I don't even think it can be debated. We have skulls and skeletons of humans thourought each era. Just go to a museum and you will believe it. The skeletons are real, thus the theory is real.

Edit: Evolution is can be found in different countries as well. The swiss have skinny noses because its so elevated, they need it to support the thin oxygene. Africans have dark skin, to protect them from the sun. This is all evolution!!

[QUOTE="Revinh"]

Anyone who believes in evolution is either:

A. Ignorant

B. Extremely stubborn/don't know it's seriously flawed

C. Crazy

D. Simply wants the theory to be true and brainwashed

I think most are probably D.Donkey_Puncher

My Irony meter was melting as I read this.

I will give you credit. you just don't know when to quit.

Just throwing the poop back.

It's not that I don't know how to quit, but I actually explain more about my side and I'm having to go up against like 20 people.

Evolution is can be found in different countries as well. The swiss have skinny noses because its so elevated, they need it to support the thin oxygene. Africans have dark skin, to protect them from the sun. This is all evolution!!mikel222222

Not really. It's more like variation or adaptation. It's not going to go beyond that (evolution, as in Darwin's theory).

[QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

[QUOTE="Tylendal"]You know that whales have rudimentary leg bones for back legs, right? You know that they used to live on land, right?Revinh

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Sure why not. I'm gonna go kiss a frog, it'll turn into a handsome prince 40 millions years from now..

Doesn't work like that. It took over 2 million years for humans just stand up straight. In 40 million years frogs will probably not exist, as dinosaurs died, so will everything else. Its how the earth works. But if they did last that long, maybe they would be bigger or maybe they could breath underwater for a much longer time.

But if evolution is not real... how do you explain something as simple as dogs?! They evolved obviously, as did so many other things.

Anyone who believes in evolution is either:

A. Ignorant

B. Extremely stubborn/don't know it's seriously flawed

C. Crazy

D. Simply wants the theory to be true and brainwashed

I think most are probably D.

Revinh

agreed, and D) isn't really their fault, Everybody wants an answer, so some people pick the bible for all of them. Nobody can answer every question of life, neither can a book. Though it tries by saying "ummm... people were just put here" because back when it was made, nobody really knew. Now obviously every educated person that has been to a musuem knows evolution is real.

It's not that I don't know how to quit, but I actually explain more about my side and I'm having to go up against like 20 people.Revinh

All you've done is cite Creationist websites with no scientific credibility while ignoring piles of direct evidence refuting every claim you've made.

I'd consider that not knowing when to quit. Seriously, creationevolution websites? :lol:

You might as well cite KKK sites when arguing about civil rights issues.

[QUOTE="mikel222222"]Evolution is can be found in different countries as well. The swiss have skinny noses because its so elevated, they need it to support the thin oxygene. Africans have dark skin, to protect them from the sun. This is all evolution!!Revinh

Not really. It's more like variation or adaptation. It's not going to go beyond that (evolution, as in Darwin's theory).

[QUOTE="Revinh"]

It's not that I don't know how to quit, but I actually explain more about my side and I'm having to go up against like 20 people.Donkey_Puncher

All you've done is cite Creationist websites with no scientific credibility while ignoring piles of direct evidence refuting every claim you've made.

I'd consider that not knowing when to quit. Seriously, creationevolution websites? :lol:

You might as well cite KKK sites when arguing about civil rights issues

Right, I probably made over a hundred posts talking about this subject and that's all I've done.

And do you know how to read? it's creationevolution.net

[QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

[QUOTE="Revinh"]

It's not that I don't know how to quit, but I actually explain more about my side and I'm having to go up against like 20 people.Revinh

All you've done is cite Creationist websites with no scientific credibility while ignoring piles of direct evidence refuting every claim you've made.

I'd consider that not knowing when to quit. Seriously, creationevolution websites? :lol:

You might as well cite KKK sites when arguing about civil rights issues

Right, I probably made over a hundred posts talking about this subject and that's all I've done.

And do you know how to read? it's creationevolution.net

[QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

[QUOTE="Revinh"]

It's not that I don't know how to quit, but I actually explain more about my side and I'm having to go up against like 20 people.Revinh

All you've done is cite Creationist websites with no scientific credibility while ignoring piles of direct evidence refuting every claim you've made.

I'd consider that not knowing when to quit. Seriously, creationevolution websites? :lol:

You might as well cite KKK sites when arguing about civil rights issues

Right, I probably made over a hundred posts talking about this subject and that's all I've done.

And do you know how to read? it's creationevolution.net

lol, sorry I'm still chuckling at the fact that you use sites like that in Debates. I've looked over the site, and all it did was turn me into a human ROFT COPTOR.

You see that litte word called "Creation" in there?

[QUOTE="Revinh"]

[QUOTE="mikel222222"]Evolution is can be found in different countries as well. The swiss have skinny noses because its so elevated, they need it to support the thin oxygene. Africans have dark skin, to protect them from the sun. This is all evolution!!C_Town_Soul

Not really. It's more like variation or adaptation. It's not going to go beyond that (evolution, as in Darwin's theory).

Adaptation is evolution, but evolution takes much much longer. If you looked at the stages of evolution within a few thousand years instead of million of years you would see this. If the earth froze over we would most likely have more hair, thats adaptation, but within a few thousand years we would have more fat(adaption) which would put more strain on our bones, which would configure the bones in our body (evolution?) and we would change in a million years. Adaption is a form of evolution(after millions of years)

edit: Two things make Evolution. 1)adaptation 2)speciation

[QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

[QUOTE="mikel222222"]Evolution is can be found in different countries as well. The swiss have skinny noses because its so elevated, they need it to support the thin oxygene. Africans have dark skin, to protect them from the sun. This is all evolution!!mikel222222

Not really. It's more like variation or adaptation. It's not going to go beyond that (evolution, as in Darwin's theory).

Adaptation is evolution, but evolution takes much much longer. If you looked at the stages of evolution within a few thousand years instead of million of years you would see this. If the earth froze over we would most likely have more hair, thats adaptation, but within a few thousand years we would have more fat(adaption) which would put more strain on our bones, which would configure the bones in our body (evolution?) and we would change in a million years. Adaption is a form of evolution(after millions of years)

[QUOTE="Revinh"]

[QUOTE="mikel222222"]Evolution is can be found in different countries as well. The swiss have skinny noses because its so elevated, they need it to support the thin oxygene. Africans have dark skin, to protect them from the sun. This is all evolution!!C_Town_Soul

Not really. It's more like variation or adaptation. It's not going to go beyond that (evolution, as in Darwin's theory).

I'm not sure. It seems sterility is actually evidence for the boundary of variation.

[QUOTE="mikel222222"][QUOTE="C_Town_Soul"][QUOTE="Revinh"]

[QUOTE="mikel222222"]Evolution is can be found in different countries as well. The swiss have skinny noses because its so elevated, they need it to support the thin oxygene. Africans have dark skin, to protect them from the sun. This is all evolution!!C_Town_Soul

Not really. It's more like variation or adaptation. It's not going to go beyond that (evolution, as in Darwin's theory).

Adaptation is evolution, but evolution takes much much longer. If you looked at the stages of evolution within a few thousand years instead of million of years you would see this. If the earth froze over we would most likely have more hair, thats adaptation, but within a few thousand years we would have more fat(adaption) which would put more strain on our bones, which would configure the bones in our body (evolution?) and we would change in a million years. Adaption is a form of evolution(after millions of years)

Yes i understand that. But if adaptation is real, so is evolution. That is my point to everyone that does not believe in evolution.

edit: Adaptation has hard prove(so does evolution really) but you can't deny adaptation. And thats a form of evolution, so you cant deny evolution either, because its part of it!

[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

[QUOTE="Revinh"]

It's not that I don't know how to quit, but I actually explain more about my side and I'm having to go up against like 20 people.C_Town_Soul

All you've done is cite Creationist websites with no scientific credibility while ignoring piles of direct evidence refuting every claim you've made.

I'd consider that not knowing when to quit. Seriously, creationevolution websites? :lol:

You might as well cite KKK sites when arguing about civil rights issues

Right, I probably made over a hundred posts talking about this subject and that's all I've done.

And do you know how to read? it's creationevolution.net

So what the hell is your point? Donkey was acting like it's creation.net

[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

[QUOTE="Revinh"]

It's not that I don't know how to quit, but I actually explain more about my side and I'm having to go up against like 20 people.Donkey_Puncher

All you've done is cite Creationist websites with no scientific credibility while ignoring piles of direct evidence refuting every claim you've made.

I'd consider that not knowing when to quit. Seriously, creationevolution websites? :lol:

You might as well cite KKK sites when arguing about civil rights issues

Right, I probably made over a hundred posts talking about this subject and that's all I've done.

And do you know how to read? it's creationevolution.net

lol, sorry I'm still chuckling at the fact that you use sites like that in Debates. I've looked over the site, and all it did was turn me into a human ROFT COPTOR.

Good for you. I guess you're not a donkey anymore. evolution yay!

[QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

[QUOTE="Revinh"]

It's not that I don't know how to quit, but I actually explain more about my side and I'm having to go up against like 20 people.Revinh

All you've done is cite Creationist websites with no scientific credibility while ignoring piles of direct evidence refuting every claim you've made.

I'd consider that not knowing when to quit. Seriously, creationevolution websites? :lol:

You might as well cite KKK sites when arguing about civil rights issues

Right, I probably made over a hundred posts talking about this subject and that's all I've done.

And do you know how to read? it's creationevolution.net

lol, sorry I'm still chuckling at the fact that you use sites like that in Debates. I've looked over the site, and all it did was turn me into a human ROFT COPTOR.

Good for you. I guess you're not a donkey anymore. evolution yay!

You miss the entire point of the sight.. Any sight that involves any form of creationism into soemthing is extremely bias based on belief.. Evolution is a scientific theory that the community has accepted as fact through emperical evidence.. Evolution does not exist as a belief, it was only formed through emperical evidence, unlike creation.. It can be changed and refined as more evidence declares, it is not stuck on a dogmatic system of bias it is a living and breathing fact that gets more and more refined as more discoveries are made..

Only in America would there actually be people that believe that this theory is not true :P. Have you guys ever wondered why it is that only a handful of you still believe in creationism. Scientific theory has disproved almost everything in the bible and most Christians have excepted that, but still look to the good book for guidance on how to live a good life.

Also why are your beliefs of how humans came to be anymore accurate than those of other relgions? There have been so many different gods worshipped by every human civilisation, so why is yours the only true one? You talk as if humans have always existed, but we have existed for 15,000 years of the Earth's life (longer than the Earth's life if you belive the zealots stupid theory) and there were many species of animals there before us, most importantly apes.

Through natural selection humans slowly branched off from apes and formed their own species, slowly developing higher brain functions (the ability to make tools, reason etc.) the ability to stand upright and the loss of fur. It has all been documented and there is proof if your willing to look for it. You however have not given any proof other than a 2000 year old book which ideas have become very quickly outdated, so much so that it now looks like a work of fiction.

Silent-Hal

I agree with you specially the 2nd & 3rd paragraphs, but I dont think Evolution critics will be able to answer you cause your post is very much true, the reality, & wake up call, but we all know that these critics can be really ignorant because of their beliefs.

[QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"][QUOTE="Revinh"][QUOTE="Donkey_Puncher"]

[QUOTE="Revinh"]

It's not that I don't know how to quit, but I actually explain more about my side and I'm having to go up against like 20 people.sSubZerOo

All you've done is cite Creationist websites with no scientific credibility while ignoring piles of direct evidence refuting every claim you've made.

I'd consider that not knowing when to quit. Seriously, creationevolution websites? :lol:

You might as well cite KKK sites when arguing about civil rights issues

Right, I probably made over a hundred posts talking about this subject and that's all I've done.

And do you know how to read? it's creationevolution.net

lol, sorry I'm still chuckling at the fact that you use sites like that in Debates. I've looked over the site, and all it did was turn me into a human ROFT COPTOR.

Good for you. I guess you're not a donkey anymore. evolution yay!

You miss the entire point of the sight.. Any sight that involves any form of creationism into soemthing is extremely bias based on belief.. Evolution is a scientific theory that the community has accepted as fact through emperical evidence.. Evolution does not exist as a belief, it was only formed through emperical evidence, unlike creation.. It can be changed and refined as more evidence declares, it is not stuck on a dogmatic system of bias it is a living and breathing fact that gets more and more refined as more discoveries are made..

That's retarded. You're being biased simply because the word creation is on the domain name. Why don't you actually study the site and figure out if it is "extremely biased based on belief"?

[QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]

Only in America would there actually be people that believe that this theory is not true :P. Have you guys ever wondered why it is that only a handful of you still believe in creationism. Scientific theory has disproved almost everything in the bible and most Christians have excepted that, but still look to the good book for guidance on how to live a good life.

Also why are your beliefs of how humans came to be anymore accurate than those of other relgions? There have been so many different gods worshipped by every human civilisation, so why is yours the only true one? That's for you to figure out, you'd have to study the Bible and stuff. You talk as if humans have always existed, but we have existed for 15,000 years of the Earth's life (longer than the Earth's life if you belive the zealots stupid theory) I wasn't saying humans were eternal, I was saying humans have always been humans, created and didn't come from apes. And the dating system may not always be accurate. and there were many species of animals there before us, most importantly apes. Uh, yeah, humans were created lastly. It doesn't mean they evolved from apes or whatever animals that went previously.

Through natural selection humans slowly branched off from apes and formed their own species, slowly developing higher brain functions (the ability to make tools, reason etc.) the ability to stand upright and the loss of fur. It has all been documented and there is proof if your willing to look for it. Yes, it has all been documented in your imagination. You however have not given any proof other than a 2000 year old book which ideas have become very quickly outdated, so much so that it now looks like a work of fiction. You however have completely covered your ears to everything I posted.JCblueside

I agree with you specially the 2nd & 3rd paragraphs, but I dont think Evolution critics will be able to answer you cause your post is very much true, the reality, & wake up call, but we all know that these critics can be really ignorant because of their beliefs.

I don't really feel like continuing but now I feel like I have to. Some of it are true but hardly supports evolution, and what wake-up call are you talking about? :lol: you're the one who's brainwashed and ignorant of how ridiculous your belief is.

[QUOTE="JCblueside"][QUOTE="Silent-Hal"]

Only in America would there actually be people that believe that this theory is not true :P. Have you guys ever wondered why it is that only a handful of you still believe in creationism. Scientific theory has disproved almost everything in the bible and most Christians have excepted that, but still look to the good book for guidance on how to live a good life.

Also why are your beliefs of how humans came to be anymore accurate than those of other relgions? There have been so many different gods worshipped by every human civilisation, so why is yours the only true one? That's for you to figure out, you'd have to study the Bible and stuff.You talk as if humans have always existed, but we have existed for 15,000 years of the Earth's life (longer than the Earth's life if you belive the zealots stupid theory) I wasn't saying humans were eternal, I was saying humans have always been humans, created and didn't come from apes. And the dating system may not always be accurate. and there were many species of animals there before us, most importantly apes. Uh, yeah, humans were created lastly. It doesn't mean they evolved from apes or whatever animals that went previously.

Through natural selection humans slowly branched off from apes and formed their own species, slowly developing higher brain functions (the ability to make tools, reason etc.) the ability to stand upright and the loss of fur. It has all been documented and there is proof if your willing to look for it. Yes, it has all been documented in your imagination. You however have not given any proof other than a 2000 year old book which ideas have become very quickly outdated, so much so that it now looks like a work of fiction. You however have completely covered your ears to everything I posted.Revinh

I agree with you specially the 2nd & 3rd paragraphs, but I dont think Evolution critics will be able to answer you cause your post is very much true, the reality, & wake up call, but we all know that these critics can be really ignorant because of their beliefs.

I don't really feel like continuing but now I feel like I have to. Some of it are true but hardly supports evolution, and what wake-up call are you talking about? :lol: you're the one who's brainwashed and ignorant of how ridiculous your belief is.

All organsims has the characteristics to adapt and change to be fit and survive in given conditions. The process of evolution are adaptation(which is shown on that picture), heredity, mutation, genetic drift, & gene flow are very small & slow in extent and cannot be observed in a short peroid of time. Thanks to modern science, we are able to forsee such a large time span, exposing the evolutionary changes of organisms.

Is that hard to understand? All the odds are against your beliefs my friend.

All organsims has the characteristics to adapt and change to be fit and survive in given conditions. The process of evolution are adaptation(which is shown on that picture), heredity, mutation, genetic drift, & gene flow are very small & slow in extent and cannot be observed in a short peroid of time. Thanks to modern science, we are able to forsee such a large time span, exposing the evolutionary changes of organisms.

Is that hard to understand? All the odds are against your beliefs my friend.

JCblueside

Could you please explain how that picture demonstrates adaptation? Dark skin, cultural practice? I'm a little confused.

You guys do realize that Revinh has been getting schooled on evolution ever since he got here, right? Teaching quantum mechanics to a baby is easier than trying to teach Revinh about evolution.DeeJayInphinity

Actually I disagree. He does know about how it is all meant to work but I think he just has a preconcieved notion in his head that it is false. I'm sure the same could be said back to the evolutionists but I reckon the evidence for is far greater than the evidence against.

but then were did the very first cells come from? a huge explosion? gimme a breakski11buzz

[QUOTE="ski11buzz"]but then were did the very first cells come from? a huge explosion? gimme a breakMattUD1

i was not attacking evolution directly, but EVERYTHING had to start somewhere. i believe that we as humans cannot fathom the "bigginning" and there was a supernatural force that was is and always will be. i have witnessed breakthroughs, healings, and other gifts in my church. you wouldnt understand. its something that needs to be seen for yourself, not on a television. and that is mainly why i believe in God.

i was not attacking evolution directly, but EVERYTHING had to start somewhere. i believe that we as humans cannot fathom the "bigginning" and there was a supernatural force that was is and always will be. i have witnessed breakthroughs, healings, and other gifts in my church. you wouldnt understand. its something that needs to be seen for yourself, not on a television. and that is mainly why i believe in God.

ski11buzz

in other words, "I can't disprove evolution so I'll go with 'you can't prove where matter came from.'"

[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="ski11buzz"]but then were did the very first cells come from? a huge explosion? gimme a breakski11buzz

i was not attacking evolution directly, but EVERYTHING had to start somewhere. i believe that we as humans cannot fathom the "bigginning" and there was a supernatural force that was is and always will be. i have witnessed breakthroughs, healings, and other gifts in my church. you wouldnt understand. its something that needs to be seen for yourself, not on a television. and that is mainly why i believe in God.

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]You guys do realize that Revinh has been getting schooled on evolution ever since he got here, right? Teaching quantum mechanics to a baby is easier than trying to teach Revinh about evolution.domatron23

Actually I disagree. He does know about how it is all meant to work but I think he just has a preconcieved notion in his head that it is false. I'm sure the same could be said back to the evolutionists but I reckon the evidence for is far greater than the evidence against.

[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="ski11buzz"]but then were did the very first cells come from? a huge explosion? gimme a breakski11buzz

i was not attacking evolution directly, but EVERYTHING had to start somewhere. i believe that we as humans cannot fathom the "bigginning" and there was a supernatural force that was is and always will be. i have witnessed breakthroughs, healings, and other gifts in my church. you wouldnt understand. its something that needs to be seen for yourself, not on a television. and that is mainly why i believe in God.

[QUOTE="ski11buzz"]

[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="ski11buzz"]but then were did the very first cells come from? a huge explosion? gimme a breakMattUD1

i was not attacking evolution directly, but EVERYTHING had to start somewhere. i believe that we as humans cannot fathom the "bigginning" and there was a supernatural force that was is and always will be. i have witnessed breakthroughs, healings, and other gifts in my church. you wouldnt understand. its something that needs to be seen for yourself, not on a television. and that is mainly why i believe in God.

my bad if i offended you. i only just woke up 20 minutes ago, and there are 44 pages to read, naturally i didnt read them all

[QUOTE="domatron23"]

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]You guys do realize that Revinh has been getting schooled on evolution ever since he got here, right? Teaching quantum mechanics to a baby is easier than trying to teach Revinh about evolution.DeeJayInphinity

Actually I disagree. He does know about how it is all meant to work but I think he just has a preconcieved notion in his head that it is false. I'm sure the same could be said back to the evolutionists but I reckon the evidence for is far greater than the evidence against.

[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="ski11buzz"]but then were did the very first cells come from? a huge explosion? gimme a breakski11buzz

i was not attacking evolution directly, but EVERYTHING had to start somewhere. i believe that we as humans cannot fathom the "bigginning" and there was a supernatural force that was is and always will be. i have witnessed breakthroughs, healings, and other gifts in my church. you wouldnt understand. its something that needs to be seen for yourself, not on a television. and that is mainly why i believe in God.

but i dont see how anything else could have came into existance without a supernatural force. thats what i think

[QUOTE="ski11buzz"]

i was not attacking evolution directly, but EVERYTHING had to start somewhere. i believe that we as humans cannot fathom the "bigginning" and there was a supernatural force that was is and always will be. i have witnessed breakthroughs, healings, and other gifts in my church. you wouldnt understand. its something that needs to be seen for yourself, not on a television. and that is mainly why i believe in God.

Hewkii

in other words, "I can't disprove evolution so I'll go with 'you can't prove where matter came from.'"

no. you're putting words in my mouth. i was simply looking at a different perspective. was it really so wrong of me to write about what i believe?

[QUOTE="domatron23"]

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"]You guys do realize that Revinh has been getting schooled on evolution ever since he got here, right? Teaching quantum mechanics to a baby is easier than trying to teach Revinh about evolution.DeeJayInphinity

Actually I disagree. He does know about how it is all meant to work but I think he just has a preconcieved notion in his head that it is false. I'm sure the same could be said back to the evolutionists but I reckon the evidence for is far greater than the evidence against.

If the goal is to convince him that evolution is true, yes. But keep in mind that others read these forums and are perfectly capable of discerning who has the better argument.

but i dont see how anything else could have came into existance without a supernatural force. thats what i thinkski11buzz

[QUOTE="ski11buzz"]but i dont see how anything else could have came into existance without a supernatural force. thats what i thinkDeeJayInphinity

i know that there are theories. im trying to say that the beginning of the universe is a difficult thought to comprehend. either scientifically or supernaturally. do you see what im trying to explain?

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="ski11buzz"]but i dont see how anything else could have came into existance without a supernatural force. thats what i thinkski11buzz

i know that there are theories. im trying to say that the beginning of the universe is a difficult thought to comprehend. either scientifically or supernaturally. do you see what im trying to explain?

[QUOTE="ski11buzz"]

[QUOTE="DeeJayInphinity"][QUOTE="ski11buzz"]but i dont see how anything else could have came into existance without a supernatural force. thats what i thinkDeeJayInphinity

i know that there are theories. im trying to say that the beginning of the universe is a difficult thought to comprehend. either scientifically or supernaturally. do you see what im trying to explain?

what point are you even trying to make exactly?