Do you believe that Islam is a violent religion?

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#51 Shad0ki11
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No. The word "Islam" actually comes from the arabic for "peace" I think.

darkhorse286

Islam means "submission"

Like, to submit one's self to god, no?

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#52 Barknip
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[QUOTE="darkhorse286"]

No. The word "Islam" actually comes from the arabic for "peace" I think.

Shad0ki11

Islam means "submission"

Like, to submit one's self to god, no?

Yes Islam means submission, Muslims must submit themselves entirely to God. Which is why its so dangerous
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#53 loseittoo
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[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

[QUOTE="darkhorse286"]

No. The word "Islam" actually comes from the arabic for "peace" I think.

Barknip

Islam means "submission"

Like, to submit one's self to god, no?

Yes Islam means submission, Muslims must submit themselves entirely to God. Which is why its so dangerous

Islam could also mean I = Isyak , S = Subuh, L = Luhur/Zuhor , A = Asar and M = Maghrib.

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#54 This_Is_Not
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Honestly, the religion itself is irrelevant and only used to rally a common people to protect its resources/its way of life from hostile western interests. Islam could be replaced by any other religion and achieve this end satisfactorily.

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#55 kono11
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[QUOTE="Barknip"][QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

Islam means "submission"

Like, to submit one's self to god, no?

loseittoo

Yes Islam means submission, Muslims must submit themselves entirely to God. Which is why its so dangerous

Islam could also mean I = Isyak , S = Subuh, L = Luhur/Zuhor , A = Asar and M = Maghrib.

Hah. That's weird.

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#56 mastersword007
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I do think its a violent religion and forget about the extemists because every religion's got extremists but islam rules are abit violent even though most muslim countries dont go by them now but i will mention some of them :

1) if you fornicate you will be stoned to death

2) if you steal your hand will be cut

3)homo sexuals are killed

4)once you get in islam you cant change to any other religion or you will be killed

those are some of the actual rules of islam mentioned in quran and are applied anf followed in suadi arabia but most muslim countries dont apply these rules but they are real

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No, they're not.

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#57 Famiking
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[QUOTE="Barknip"] Yes Islam means submission, Muslims must submit themselves entirely to God. Which is why its so dangerous

Submission to god killed my grandmother. :roll:
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#58 Gun_N_Run-_-
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[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

[QUOTE="darkhorse286"]

No. The word "Islam" actually comes from the arabic for "peace" I think.

Islam means "submission"

Like, to submit one's self to god, no?

actually it means peace.
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#59 clembo1990
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It justifies a Holy War. Add it to the list of religions that tolerate violence of some kind. The list is quite long.
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#60 Blu_Falcon37
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It's no more violent than any of the other religions of the world.

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#61 shemrom
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No religion is violence unless theirs own cult requires blood and such, which for me knowing that there's isn't in the Major religions.

It just the people who are extremest and believes that they much force there religion on others as it the only right way for an happy life, which is just bougest.

All the terrorist are people filled with hate and no good nor right morals

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#62 kingdre
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Of course not. It just so happens that a few twisted individuals distort its teachings for their personal interests.

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#63 dramaybaz
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Its a peaceful religion, but like any other religion some take things to extreme.
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#64 MasterC5
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It doesn't have to be, however the Quran says "a good Muslim tries to be like Muhammad" and Muhamad beheaded infidels alot.

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#66 scorch-62
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Islam is not a violent religion. Not by any means.
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#67 Smokescreened84
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It's like any religion that is misused and mishandled by people looking for an excuse to spill blood. It's not the religion itself, but the people within which can make a religion violent.

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#68 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Of course not.. They have terrorist organizations and the such for really legitimate reasons (no this is not condoning or suggesting what they do is correct), religion has little to do it for most times.. Its social development.. Only 60 years ago did the United States supposedly at the "forfront of equal rights" had intense racism.. And by that time it was a first world country pretty much.. Most of these Islamic nations unfortunately are developing nations, and what few extremely rich Islamic countries are really small and owned predominately by the oil companies.. Terrorism is just the reaction to the wests actions in the Middle East for 200 years.. Alot of these terrorists have a right to be pissed.. Hell even if you look at our "golden boy" of the Middle East, Israel you will see that they arn't golden what so ever and have actually done some really awful things.
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^This.

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#70 -_Rain_-
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I believe Islam is a religion with a lot of violent followers. I also believe that that is the fault of said followers and not the religion.

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#71 Holy_Xbox
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Well catholic are the islam today, with the crusades and corrupt popes (from what i read and heard) but to answer your question i will tell you the answer "You will know a tree by it's fruit, for there is not tree that produce a bad fruit". I think those who read the bible will be very familiar with these word. Try to decipher it yourself (for non-christians).

The religion of Islam has been labeled as the most violent of all the religious faiths, promoting terrorism and violent acts against innocent Americans. However, this accusation mainly comes from the select few Muslims who are extremists, and find it necessary to kill anyone who is non-Muslim.

As a practicing Muslim myself, I must say that I truly do not believe that Islam is a violent religion. I believe that the Muslim terrorists are wrong, ignorant, and heretic, and have refused to accept the real Qur'an for what it is.

Please let me know, do you believe that Islam is a violent, terrorist religion?

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Well catholic are the islam today, with the crusades and corrupt popes (from what i read and heard) but to answer your question i will tell you the answer "You will know a tree by it's fruit, for there is not tree that produce a bad fruit". I think those who read the bible will be very familiar with these word. Try to decipher it yourself (for non-christians).
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#72 Holy_Xbox
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Well catholic are the islam today, with the crusades and corrupt popes (from what i read and heard) but to answer your question i will tell you the answer "You will know a tree by it's fruit, for there is not tree that produce a bad fruit". I think those who read the bible will be very familiar with these word. Try to decipher it yourself (for non-christians).[QUOTE="Tigerman950"]

The religion of Islam has been labeled as the most violent of all the religious faiths, promoting terrorism and violent acts against innocent Americans. However, this accusation mainly comes from the select few Muslims who are extremists, and find it necessary to kill anyone who is non-Muslim.

As a practicing Muslim myself, I must say that I truly do not believe that Islam is a violent religion. I believe that the Muslim terrorists are wrong, ignorant, and heretic, and have refused to accept the real Qur'an for what it is.

Please let me know, do you believe that Islam is a violent, terrorist religion?

Be sure to read the "Religious Topic Guidelines" and avoid offending anyone with personal attacks or insults.

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Well catholic are the islam today, with the crusades and corrupt popes (from what i read and heard) but to answer your question i will tell you the answer "You will know a tree by it's fruit, for there is not tree that produce a bad fruit". I think those who read the bible will be very familiar with these word. Try to decipher it yourself (for non-christians).

i mean the catholic on the medieval age.
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#73 scar-hawk
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Islam is Not a violent religion. There are a select few however that take it a step too far and kill others. Most religions share a basic principle and that is to be peaceful and respectful. And some form violence has occurred due to almost every major religion.
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#74 Head_of_games
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I believe it is the religion with the most potential to be interpreted with violent results.
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#75 Enosh88
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Islam as a religion? no

people that follow it? yes, there are quite a lot more radical extremist in islam than in any other religion

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#76 Barknip
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I believe it is the religion with the most potential to be interpreted with violent results. Head_of_games
this = true
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#77 Tigerman950
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Well I'm glad that most of you believe that it is a peaceful religion; I seriously thought that everyone despised it as violent.

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#79 alphamale1989
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It's one of those "A square is a rectangle but a rectangle is not a sqaure." types of things Islamic Extremists are muslims, but not all (most) muslims aren't Extremists.
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#80 Holy_Xbox
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Well I'm glad that most of you believe that it is a peaceful religion; I seriously thought that everyone despised it as violent.

Tigerman950
As long you don't scream Allah U Akbar then shoots people, you'll do fine.
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#81 redbaron3
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All people of all groups have someone somewhere that happens to be violent, some more so than others but donot judge an entire group based on the actions of one.
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#83 Sajo7
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Any Muslim will tell you that Islamic extremism logic is fundamentally flawed. It's basically the manipulation of certain passages and total disregard for other passages. Obviously this is seen in every religion.
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#84 b3yondstupidity
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No it isn't it's just extremes who make it look bad. When it's not actually like that.
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#85 pvtdonut54
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No, it is only stereotyped by extremeists on the media

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#86 Shad0ki11
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[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"]

[QUOTE="darkhorse286"]

No. The word "Islam" actually comes from the arabic for "peace" I think.

Gun_N_Run-_-

Islam means "submission"

Like, to submit one's self to god, no?

actually it means peace.

Islam comes from the word aslama, which means "he surrendered; submitted". However it's only related to the Arabic word for peace: salam.

Source: Online Etymology Dictionary


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Any religion that prays a lot and requires frequent visit to a gathering and getting brain washed is really dangerous and violent. It is basically a gangster joint, but much more organized and mainstream. Really really dangerious.magicalclick

You must really hate the education system if your definition of "brainwashed" is that loose.

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#88 dk_2007
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First of all I would like to say that just one book doesnt mean religion, Without people you cant have a religion even if you have a book. Thus, a religion is everything including its extremists, normal people etc. These days there are bad apples in Islam, but they will spoil any religion whichever they adopt.

Moreover, it depends on what type of forces does a religion create. If a religion is tilting towards voilence then there should be elements inside that religion that counter balance that. I dont know much about Islam, but:

Have some religious priests in Islam condemned terrorism, suicide bombing, Jihad etc openly and clearly? For example by saying that terrorists will go to hell and punished by God etc. If yes then I believe that this religion has some elements to make it peace loving.

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#89 God-Is-Dead
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http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/004.qmt.html#004.034

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/005.qmt.html#005.038

Those ARE Quran verse's right? Or is it just some conspiracy by the West to make Islam look like a Violent Religion?

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no, it isn't. the majority of muslims (like you) aren't terrorists but there are some muslims that do believe the quran preaches violence and make all muslims look bad. christian hands haven't always been free of blood in religions name.
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#91 Holy_Xbox
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Any religion that prays a lot and requires frequent visit to a gathering and getting brain washed is really dangerous and violent. It is basically a gangster joint, but much more organized and mainstream. Really really dangerious.magicalclick
that's why there are many crusades, to eradicate Islam because the popes and kings back then thinks like you. Islam is just the same like Christianity but the difference is that christians don't believe mohhamad as a prophet. While Islam persisted he is a prophet and makes it's follower prays 5 times a day, goes to mecca every years and kill those who do not believe or forgive the unbeliever. Sadly many prefer killing.
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#92 Holy_Xbox
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First of all I would like to say that just one book doesnt mean religion, Without people you cant have a religion even if you have a book. Thus, a religion is everything including its extremists, normal people etc. These days there are bad apples in Islam, but they will spoil any religion whichever they adopt.

Moreover, it depends on what type of forces does a religion create. If a religion is tilting towards voilence then there should be elements inside that religion that counter balance that. I dont know much about Islam, but:

Have some religious priests in Islam condemned terrorism, suicide bombing, Jihad etc openly and clearly? For example by saying that terrorists will go to hell and punished by God etc. If yes then I believe that this religion has some elements to make it peace loving.

dk_2007
Jesus said "A good tree can't produce bad fruits, neither is a bad tree produce good fruits". I think he's talking about Islam terrorist, or islam itself, i think or maybe i'm wrong i dunno.
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#93 dk_2007
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[QUOTE="dk_2007"]

First of all I would like to say that just one book doesnt mean religion, Without people you cant have a religion even if you have a book. Thus, a religion is everything including its extremists, normal people etc. These days there are bad apples in Islam, but they will spoil any religion whichever they adopt.

Moreover, it depends on what type of forces does a religion create. If a religion is tilting towards voilence then there should be elements inside that religion that counter balance that. I dont know much about Islam, but:

Have some religious priests in Islam condemned terrorism, suicide bombing, Jihad etc openly and clearly? For example by saying that terrorists will go to hell and punished by God etc. If yes then I believe that this religion has some elements to make it peace loving.

Holy_Xbox

Jesus said "A good tree can't produce bad fruits, neither is a bad tree produce good fruits". I think he's talking about Islam terrorist, or islam itself, i think or maybe i'm wrong i dunno.

In theory, yes, but in practice we all know that bad fruits are possible any where. A religion is like a system and for a system to be non voilent it should have some elements to automatically weed out voilent people.

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#94 Gallion-Beast
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[QUOTE="dracula_16"]

Of course. When it's publicly critisized for being violent, that person is threatened with more violence. Then there's the indoctrination of suicide bombers and the brain washing on palestinian TV...those sure don't help.

Tigerman950

Yes but what does that have to do with the Qur'an in general? Just because there's a few bad Muslims (5-10% of them, in fact) who are terrorists doesn't mean the entire religion is violent. In fact, there are terrorists from all religions.

You should really cite the Qur'an if you truly claim that is indeed a religion that preaches hate and terror.

But before you do that, I think I've got something for you:

"Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah loveth those who are just. " (6:8 )

This verse is basically saying that Muslims must deal kindly and justly with non-Muslims. Do me a favor and try to disprove that one.

Why would people judge a religion by it's words rather than it's actions? Not that I believe non violent Muslims are the same as the extremists, but the extremists are a part of Islam the same as any other Muslims, even if they're in the minority.
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#95 Holy_Xbox
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[QUOTE="Holy_Xbox"][QUOTE="dk_2007"]

First of all I would like to say that just one book doesnt mean religion, Without people you cant have a religion even if you have a book. Thus, a religion is everything including its extremists, normal people etc. These days there are bad apples in Islam, but they will spoil any religion whichever they adopt.

Moreover, it depends on what type of forces does a religion create. If a religion is tilting towards voilence then there should be elements inside that religion that counter balance that. I dont know much about Islam, but:

Have some religious priests in Islam condemned terrorism, suicide bombing, Jihad etc openly and clearly? For example by saying that terrorists will go to hell and punished by God etc. If yes then I believe that this religion has some elements to make it peace loving.

dk_2007

Jesus said "A good tree can't produce bad fruits, neither is a bad tree produce good fruits". I think he's talking about Islam terrorist, or islam itself, i think or maybe i'm wrong i dunno.

In theory, yes, but in practice we all know that bad fruits are possible any where. A religion is like a system and for a system to be non voilent it should have some elements to automatically weed out voilent people.

Meh... potato tomato i don't care. I believe that the true follower of god is people who help the poor, the sick, the lame, the blind. Not people that goes to a building every sunday, or people going to mecca every year, or people banging their head on a wall. I believe god and jesus and he is merciful and do not like people shouting his name in vain (killing people).
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#96 Nonstop-Madness
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Islam is not a violent religion. Its actually a very calm religion. People just point to the Middle East and think "Islam sucks", In fact there are more Muslims outside of the Middle East than inside.
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#97 tofu-lion91
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I can see why people would think that - what with the news constantly portraying Muslims as violent terrorists. The uneducated chavs would definately think that. However those shown on the news are a tiny minority and Muslim is generally a peaceful religion.
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#98 dk_2007
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[QUOTE="dk_2007"]

In theory, yes, but in practice we all know that bad fruits are possible any where. A religion is like a system and for a system to be non voilent it should have some elements to automatically weed out voilent people.

Holy_Xbox

Meh... potato tomato i don't care. I believe that the true follower of god is people who help the poor, the sick, the lame, the blind. Not people that goes to a building every sunday, or people going to mecca every year, or people banging their head on a wall. I believe god and jesus and he is merciful and do not like people shouting his name in vain (killing people).

Yes, I completely agree with you and if all people think like this then any problem will be easily solved.

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#99 htekemerald
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Yes, just like most other religions.

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#100 reo-117
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The religion of Islam has been labeled as the most violent of all the religious faiths, promoting terrorism and violent acts against innocent Americans. However, this accusation mainly comes from the select few Muslims who are extremists, and find it necessary to kill anyone who is non-Muslim.

As a practicing Muslim myself, I must say that I truly do not believe that Islam is a violent religion. I believe that the Muslim terrorists are wrong, ignorant, and heretic, and have refused to accept the real Qur'an for what it is.

Please let me know, do you believe that Islam is a violent, terrorist religion?

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Tigerman950

no way I think Muslims are one of the most peaceful people ever and I think its wrong to judge a group of people by things that are only done by a few people.