Do you believe that Islam is a violent religion?

Nah. Although some who claim to be muslims kill their selves while killing dozens of other muslims like in Iraq, yesterday's news. These suicide bombers truly ruin Islam. They kill citizen muslims and non muslims...

I'm a Muslim, and that's my view on these idiots.

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/004.qmt.html#004.034

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/quran/005.qmt.html#005.038

Those ARE Quran verse's right? Or is it just some conspiracy by the West to make Islam look like a Violent Religion?

God-Is-Dead

you dont know horror, you dont know pain, you dont know fear.......till you have seen the dog

no its just another case of people exploiting religion its been going on for centeries they use religion to spread their false idealisms to people

First of all I would like to say that just one book doesnt mean religion, Without people you cant have a religion even if you have a book. Thus, a religion is everything including its extremists, normal people etc. These days there are bad apples in Islam, but they will spoil any religion whichever they adopt.

Moreover, it depends on what type of forces does a religion create. If a religion is tilting towards voilence then there should be elements inside that religion that counter balance that. I dont know much about Islam, but:

Have some religious priests in Islam condemned terrorism, suicide bombing, Jihad etc openly and clearly? For example by saying that terrorists will go to hell and punished by God etc. If yes then I believe that this religion has some elements to make it peace loving.

dk_2007

A religion is synonymous with its followers. When I turn on the news, I see nothing but Muslim violence and tragedy. I believe Islam is a very violent religion.

A religion is synonymous with its followers. When I turn on the news, I see nothing but Muslim violence and tragedy. I believe Islam is a very violent religion.

fiscope

There's your problem right there. Good news doesn't boost the ratings, bad news on the other hand...

A religion is synonymous with its followers. When I turn on the news, I see nothing but Muslim violence and tragedy. I believe Islam is a very violent religion.

fiscope

Islam is not a violent religion. There are some people who do bad things but it is not Islam's fault.

[QUOTE="dk_2007"]

First of all I would like to say that just one book doesnt mean religion, Without people you cant have a religion even if you have a book. Thus, a religion is everything including its extremists, normal people etc. These days there are bad apples in Islam, but they will spoil any religion whichever they adopt.

Moreover, it depends on what type of forces does a religion create. If a religion is tilting towards voilence then there should be elements inside that religion that counter balance that. I dont know much about Islam, but:

Have some religious priests in Islam condemned terrorism, suicide bombing, Jihad etc openly and clearly? For example by saying that terrorists will go to hell and punished by God etc. If yes then I believe that this religion has some elements to make it peace loving.

Famiking

That is one of the problems. People start thinking that a book IS the religion and start following, interpreting, misinterpreting everything without questioning. A sole book cannot be the religion. It cannot be above god. It is just a part of a religion. A book can never capture the full reality, and not even close to it, because any language is too limited to capture any reality. Hence, will always be open to misinterpretations.

Saying a book is the religion is like saying that one's degree is the education and whatever one learned and other things dont count.

And regarding terrorists getting condemned: it is good to know that they are being condemned by religious people. In fact any religion can be good when times are good, but only difficult times and difficult tests like these prove its actual worth.

Maybe they are using Religion to use terrorism.

A religion is synonymous with its followers. When I turn on the news, I see nothing but Muslim violence and tragedy. I believe Islam is a very violent religion.

fiscope

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A religion is synonymous with its followers. When I turn on the news, I see nothing but Muslim violence and tragedy. I believe Islam is a very violent religion.

-Sun_Tzu-

No any more violent than what Christianity and Judaism used to be. In fact, I'm pretty sure that Christianity has the higher body count...by far..between the Crusades, the Witch Hunts, the Inquisition, etc.

We're talking about an entire region ofthe world that was sent back to the stone ages after the rule of the Mongols and Ottomans. It's not surprising that many countries are a couple of centuries behind in terms of morality, justice, ethics,and their ideas of government and freedom.

Absolutely not. NO religion is violent at all, it is the people that misinterpret the religions and do wrong with them. Religion has the purpose of uniting mankind, yet people misuse them. Don't think any religion is "violent", the people that supposedly call themselves spiritual and do violent acts are the ones that should be looked upon.

[QUOTE="Famiking"][QUOTE="dk_2007"]

First of all I would like to say that just one book doesnt mean religion, Without people you cant have a religion even if you have a book. Thus, a religion is everything including its extremists, normal people etc. These days there are bad apples in Islam, but they will spoil any religion whichever they adopt.

Moreover, it depends on what type of forces does a religion create. If a religion is tilting towards voilence then there should be elements inside that religion that counter balance that. I dont know much about Islam, but:

Have some religious priests in Islam condemned terrorism, suicide bombing, Jihad etc openly and clearly? For example by saying that terrorists will go to hell and punished by God etc. If yes then I believe that this religion has some elements to make it peace loving.

dk_2007

That is one of the problems. People start thinking that a book IS the religion and start following, interpreting, misinterpreting everything without questioning. A sole book cannot be the religion. It cannot be above god. It is just a part of a religion. A book can never capture the full reality, and not even close to it, because any language is too limited to capture any reality. Hence, will always be open to misinterpretations.

Saying a book is the religion is like saying that one's degree is the education and whatever one learned and other things dont count.

And regarding terrorists getting condemned: it is good to know that they are being condemned by religious people. In fact any religion can be good when times are good, but only difficult times and difficult tests like these prove its actual worth.

Islam wasn't *MEANT* to be a violent Religion, but it sure isn't any pacifist either because the Qur'an teaches that anyone that isn't Islamic should either be converted, but if after 'trying' and they still refuse then killing is the next thing.th3warr1or

First of all I would like to say that just one book doesnt mean religion, Without people you cant have a religion even if you have a book. Thus, a religion is everything including its extremists, normal people etc. These days there are bad apples in Islam, but they will spoil any religion whichever they adopt.

Moreover, it depends on what type of forces does a religion create. If a religion is tilting towards voilence then there should be elements inside that religion that counter balance that. I dont know much about Islam, but:

Have some religious priests in Islam condemned terrorism, suicide bombing, Jihad etc openly and clearly? For example by saying that terrorists will go to hell and punished by God etc. If yes then I believe that this religion has some elements to make it peace loving.

dk_2007

So what else would the religion be? There's nothing else to follow, except Hadith, and even then they contain a lot of errors so not all of them can be trusted.Famiking

I think that one should try to understand the basic intention of God and the basic intention of words written in the holy book instead of blindly following what is written. Many people do, but many dont.

[QUOTE="dk_2007"]

First of all I would like to say that just one book doesnt mean religion, Without people you cant have a religion even if you have a book. Thus, a religion is everything including its extremists, normal people etc. These days there are bad apples in Islam, but they will spoil any religion whichever they adopt.

Moreover, it depends on what type of forces does a religion create. If a religion is tilting towards voilence then there should be elements inside that religion that counter balance that. I dont know much about Islam, but:

Have some religious priests in Islam condemned terrorism, suicide bombing, Jihad etc openly and clearly? For example by saying that terrorists will go to hell and punished by God etc. If yes then I believe that this religion has some elements to make it peace loving.

nintendo-4life

But, there is a difference between laws, that are never perfect and are always changing and evolving, and religious laws that are believed to be perfect and will never change. If something is claimed to be perfect and cannot change then it should incorporate everything like things that will counter-balance bad things.

And I understand from your comment that there are somethings in Islam that counterbalance voilence and I am only saying it should continue and more and more people should condemn terrorism if they are true to their religion.

Absolutely not. NO religion is violent at all, it is the people that misinterpret the religions and do wrong with them. Religion has the purpose of uniting mankind, yet people misuse them. Don't think any religion is "violent", the people that supposedly call themselves spiritual and do violent acts are the ones that should be looked upon.

amirbrandon

People need to understand why religious fundamentalists are the basic threat with in the Middle East.. Its because Arab Nationalism has been crushed by the west when Nasser than Saddat of Egypt were pretty much forced into accepting states like Israel and supporting the US.. What happened than? Iraq tried to become the Arab Nationalist leader, with Saddam leading, than brought upon teh Gulf War where he was basically crippled.. During this time the Shah was overthrown by Religious cleric center, the ONE group that the United States and leaders like the Shah ignored mostly as a threat.. They were after Marxists and Arab nationalists.. There is a lot of reasons why its the main group in Islam being extremist.. Than to further note.. Most of the Middle East has been intentionally held back in progress by the west, religion usually has little to do it but social standards.. People like to say that the United States is losing their Christian values for instance an want to go back to "good ole" days like the 50s.. Yet what they failed to realize is racism was extremely high back than, so was sexism and other such things.. sSubZerOo