Do you consider **** unnatural?

Well it may be abnormal in the sense that it's not the most common practice, but that neither makes it wrong or "unnatural". Really, whatever people want to do with another consenting adult is their business and not mine.

depends on what you mean by natural.

if by nature, you're talking about biology and science and all that mumbo-jumbo, one could argue that physical attraction is biologically meant to be between a man and a woman in order to procreate. homosexual attraction serves no natural purpose in that regard. males weren't built to mate with males and females weren't built to mate with females (that's why the good bits don't fits).

but if you're talking about behavioral stuff, many different species have homosexuals (dogs in sweaters and whatnot), so therefore it IS natural.

either way, I don't think it matters at all. whether it's natural or not, gay people are here to stay, and there's no reason why the "naturalness" of their preference should prohibit them from... whatever, i give up

What is OT's obsession with homosexuality and religion?

its not a matter of whether or not we thinkif its natural. this isnt a matter of opinion. Homosexual relationships occur in hundreds of species in nature. it is a FACT that homosexuality is natural.

and even if it wasnt natural, so ****ing what? nearly everything we do is "unnatural" by that standard. (I also already made a thread on this topic )

I think you need to learn what unnatural means, and what uncommon means

Where's my stapler?

I think the physical attraction between 2 people of the same sex is natural. However, i also think that sexual intercourse between 2 people of the same sex is possibly unnatural ( not necessarily my opinion) based solely on the procreation traits of the human genitalia.

In other words, a penis was designed to go into a vagina with the intention of creating human life. Any other use of said parts is outside of the intended reason for having them. Hence the unnatural nature of sex between two same sex individuals.

You could make an argument that genitals were not created for life subsistence and that procreation was just a side effect of having genitalia thus rendering the above sentiment unfounded. I guess in the same vein, masturbation or any other practice involving those parts would be unnatural as well.

In the end it is neither here nor there. People are people and it is the basis of human nature to want to be happy. Some people will strive to be happy with the opposite sex and some will strive to be happy with the same sex. Whatever reaction or process an individual goes through to get to that outcome is in and of itself entirely natural.

I did not claim that homosexuality is unnatural because it's uncommon, i think it's unnatural because the anus is not a sex organ. And what's the purpose of same gender sex?Blaminator1221

Hence the whole "You keep using that word...I do not think it means what you think it means."

Unnatural in the sense of being able to reproduce. But does it really matter? Unnatural doesn't = Bad thing IMO...

Natural- something occurring in nature. Yes homosexuality happens in nature. Argument over.

Natural- something occurring in nature. Yes homosexuality happens in nature. Argument over.

Guybrush_3

I did say that it wasn't wrong too. Just b/c something is unatural doesn't mean it's wrong. There are a lot unatural things in this world that aren't horrid, bad, orawful things.

Natural- something occurring in nature. Yes homosexuality happens in nature. Argument over.

Guybrush_3

this is my exact point. funny how many people here dont want to take into consideration such things as "facts" and "evidence."

I did not claim that homosexuality is unnatural because it's uncommon, i think it's unnatural because the anus is not a sex organ. And what's the purpose of same gender sex?Blaminator1221

And here I thought I was doing it wrong while doing my number 2.

[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]It must be natural because the purpose of life is to live your life and be happy about your life. The purpose of someone being homosexually inclined is to satisfy themselves in a way that is best for said person. And wtf does unnatural even mean? :|GazaAli

Technically yes.

Unnatural in the sense of being able to reproduce. But does it really matter? Unnatural doesn't = Bad thing IMO...

tocool340

I really don't think they are. I mean it is their choice to be gay or not. We can't make their own judgement.

I really don't think they are. I mean it is their choice to be gay or not. We can't make their own judgement.

YoungFlitz

I don't want to get into any details here but gay people aren't the only ones who have anal sex. >__>Aquat1cF1sh

Well it happens in nature so yes its natural.

[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]It must be natural because the purpose of life is to live your life and be happy about your life. The purpose of someone being homosexually inclined is to satisfy themselves in a way that is best for said person. And wtf does unnatural even mean? :|GazaAli

yes. also, murder is natural. whether something is natural or not has no bearing on whether it is acceptable or not.

the point here is that people who protest homosexuality based on the "its not natural" argument are not only wrong on principle, but they are also wrong on facts.

Yep. If being gay was so awesome, I wouldn't be missing out on it. Just sayin'.

Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. I have yet to see proof that says otherwise. (Someone enlighten me)Capitan_Kid

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. I have yet to see proof that says otherwise. (Someone enlighten me)xaos

What happened to not judging...I'm pretty sure the bible says something about that? I'm atheist, and have no problem with religion until it starts being hypocritical. I have friends who are homosexual and they are people just like everyone else. What they do in the bedroom is NONE of my concern. (BTW: Before I get jumped on, taken two Religion/Theology courses and have read the bible through 2 times) Amnesiac23

You don't choose to be gay[ellipses that GS chose to remove for whatever reason]

[ellipses that GS chose to remove for whatever reason]GHlegend77

[QUOTE="Amnesiac23"]What happened to not judging...I'm pretty sure the bible says something about that? I'm atheist, and have no problem with religion until it starts being hypocritical. I have friends who are homosexual and they are people just like everyone else. What they do in the bedroom is NONE of my concern. (BTW: Before I get jumped on, taken two Religion/Theology courses and have read the bible through 2 times) Blaminator1221

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="Blaminator1221"] Those two things should not be compared... On the other hand what's actually the natural purpose of homosexuality.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="GHlegend77"][ellipses that GS chose to remove for whatever reason]scorch-62

SO MANY studies show that gay people say that dont choose to be gay.

People do NOT choose there sexuality. Why do you think so many gay people commit suicide? Because they despise the fact they are gay.

I am saddened our society is still so slow with learning the facts to this...

I have had many gay friends, not one said they chose to be gay In fact most of my gay friends today have told me they used to dislike the fact that they are gay.

Unless you ARE gay or have had a few gay best friends. I dont believe you can answer this fairly.

I consider it just as natural as heterosexuality and bisexuality.