no, stars are clearly natural since you see so many in the night sky all the time.
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. I have yet to see proof that says otherwise. (Someone enlighten me)Capitan_KidAdam and Steve Is your mind now blown? Sorry sweet cheeks. It takes a bit more than that to blow me. Lol how convenient. This post gave me a good laugh.
Is it natural? Yes, animals do it as well. Is it the way it was intended? Well, probably not. If something can go wrong in the head of a human, it can also go wrong in the head of an animal, as we are all essentially animals. However, even though there are animals who have homosexual relations, there are very few that are exclusively homo Don't get me wrong here, I don't have anything against homosexuals and I'm perfectly fine with people boinking their own gender, it's just that since they cannot conceive offspring, I do not believe it's biologically correct.
IMO its just a slight psychological defect which cannot be avoided.
Its no different in my eyes from being left handed etc. Its just the way some people are.
I think there is a reason and it may in fact be a natural response. I'll leave it at that.BranKetra
Just when I thought confusing posts in relation to topics couldn't get anymore confusing. :?Solar eclipses are anomalies and unnatural.
coolbeans90
[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]Gays are less unnatural than severe obesity. I've never seen an animal in the wild that's a couple times what it should be in body weight.xaosThat's why I'm so opposed to fat people marriage Damn right.
Unnatural: That which is gay. (You never said it had to be a good definition :P)There is no definition of "unnatural" that would not either make homosexuality natural or make left-handed people similarly unnatural.
GabuEx
[QUOTE="GabuEx"]Unnatural: That which is gay (You never said it had to be a good definition :P)There is no definition of "unnatural" that would not either make homosexuality natural or make left-handed people similarly unnatural.
Gallion-Beast
hurr durr
You win this round.
Not at all. I actually consider heterosexuality "unnatural" as well, given that I think we are all conceived with an inherent bisexuality, and come to prefer one or the other over time (or just stay neutral). Now, how this occurs, I have no idea, but it probably has a lot to do with the uterine environment and what kind of hormones the unborn child is exposed to (more testosteron creates a heterosexual leaning, while more estrogen creates a homosexual leaning), and also has to do with what they are exposed to once they are born and developing.
Homosexuality is "natural" because it occurs in nature, and humans are a part of nature... so don't try and justify your homophobia with science, it just isn't going to work.
OK I don't think it is natural and I don't agree with it. However human are some sick animals if there is a fetish there is a human that is doing it. The main problem I have with the whole homosexual thing is what you do in your bed room is your biz. Now they want to act like they need to get married and we should tell our kids about them.
Homosexuality is "natural" because it occurs in nature, and humans are a part of nature... so don't try and justify your homophobia with science, it just isn't going to work.foxhound_fox
So then you agree that necrophilia and zoophilia are natural too?
Now they want to act like they need to get married and we should tell our kids about them.pimpog
its not that gays need to get married. back in the 50's, blacks didnt need to sit in front of the bus. They didnt need to drink from the same water fountain. but you know what? its not about whether or not they need to or even want these things. its the ****ing principle. why should gay people have to keep their relationships out of public life? why shouldnt they have the same rights as other couples?
[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Homosexuality is "natural" because it occurs in nature, and humans are a part of nature... so don't try and justify your homophobia with science, it just isn't going to work.Blaminator1221
So then you agree that necrophilia and zoophilia are natural too?
for the twentieth time, YES. these facts only hurt the anti-gay arguments of those who call homosexuality unnatural (which assumes that being natural is a positive thing). Supporters of homosexuality and gay rights dont go around saying "homosexuality is acceptable becuase it is natural." the only people bringing this up are the anti-gays.
[QUOTE="pimpog"]Now they want to act like they need to get married and we should tell our kids about them.arbitor365
its not that gays need to get married. back in the 50's, blacks didnt need to sit in front of the bus. They didnt need to drink from the same water fountain. but you know what? its not about whether or not they need to or even want these things. its the ****ing principle. why should gay people have to keep their relationships out of public life? why shouldnt they have the same rights as other couples?
What does slavery,murder and the cultural destruction of african americans, have to do with a guy that can't find the right hole ??
[QUOTE="arbitor365"]
[QUOTE="pimpog"]Now they want to act like they need to get married and we should tell our kids about them.pimpog
its not that gays need to get married. back in the 50's, blacks didnt need to sit in front of the bus. They didnt need to drink from the same water fountain. but you know what? its not about whether or not they need to or even want these things. its the ****ing principle. why should gay people have to keep their relationships out of public life? why shouldnt they have the same rights as other couples?
What does slavery,murder and the cultural destruction of african americans, have to do with a guy that can't find the right hole ??
Or has actually found the right hole. *wink*[QUOTE="arbitor365"]
[QUOTE="pimpog"]Now they want to act like they need to get married and we should tell our kids about them.pimpog
its not that gays need to get married. back in the 50's, blacks didnt need to sit in front of the bus. They didnt need to drink from the same water fountain. but you know what? its not about whether or not they need to or even want these things. its the ****ing principle. why should gay people have to keep their relationships out of public life? why shouldnt they have the same rights as other couples?
What does slavery,murder and the cultural destruction of african americans, have to do with a guy that can't find the right hole ??
these cases both deal with baseless bigotry (from people like you) and the denial of equal rights
for the twentieth time, YES. these facts only hurt the anti-gay arguments of those who call homosexuality unnatural (which assumes that being natural is a positive thing). Supporters of homosexuality and gay rights dont go around saying "homosexuality is acceptable becuase it is natural." the only people bringing this up are the anti-gays.
arbitor365
Uhhh no, not according to my experience.
Well, if you guys consider necro and zoophilia natural, then i'm "defeaten", i'm waving the white flag, i surrender :)
Sounds to me you give the words "natural" and "unnatural" connotations that have to do with being acceptable or not, weird or not, repulsive or not etc.Well, if you guys consider necro and zoophilia natural, then i'm "defeaten", i'm waving the white flag, i surrender :)
Blaminator1221
Well, if you guys consider necro and zoophilia natural, then i'm beating, i'm waving the white flag, i surrender :)Blaminator1221The only problem with those two things is that corpses and animals can't give consent. If someone wrote "you can have sex with my corpse if you want" in their will. Then I see no problem with it (its still a bit weird that someone would want to, but its not harming anyone)
Sounds to me you give the words "natural" and "unnatural" connotations that have to do with being acceptable or not, weird or not, repulsive or not etc. I consider natural as meant to be.[QUOTE="Blaminator1221"]
Well, if you guys consider necro and zoophilia natural, then i'm "defeaten", i'm waving the white flag, i surrender :)
Teenaged
[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Sounds to me you give the words "natural" and "unnatural" connotations that have to do with being acceptable or not, weird or not, repulsive or not etc. I consider natural as meant to be. meant to be according to what?[QUOTE="Blaminator1221"]
Well, if you guys consider necro and zoophilia natural, then i'm "defeaten", i'm waving the white flag, i surrender :)
Blaminator1221
[QUOTE="Teenaged"]Sounds to me you give the words "natural" and "unnatural" connotations that have to do with being acceptable or not, weird or not, repulsive or not etc. I consider natural as meant to be.Can you clarify on that?[QUOTE="Blaminator1221"]
Well, if you guys consider necro and zoophilia natural, then i'm "defeaten", i'm waving the white flag, i surrender :)
Blaminator1221
Meant to be according to who? God? Fate? Nature?
[QUOTE="Blaminator1221"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Sounds to me you give the words "natural" and "unnatural" connotations that have to do with being acceptable or not, weird or not, repulsive or not etc.I consider natural as meant to be. meant to be according to what?alexside1
Nature itself?! It obvious that the anus isn't meant to be a sex organ... There is no biological purpose to same gender sex and so on...
[QUOTE="pimpog"]
[QUOTE="arbitor365"]
its not that gays need to get married. back in the 50's, blacks didnt need to sit in front of the bus. They didnt need to drink from the same water fountain. but you know what? its not about whether or not they need to or even want these things. its the ****ing principle. why should gay people have to keep their relationships out of public life? why shouldnt they have the same rights as other couples?
arbitor365
What does slavery,murder and the cultural destruction of african americans, have to do with a guy that can't find the right hole ??
these cases both deal with baseless bigotry (from people like you) and the denial of equal rights
Ok african americans are you guessed it darker than wait for it white people. It was no secret that we are "black" and we had no choice. It is a real cheap shot to ride the coat tails of millions of dead african americans to link us with the homosexual movement. There are many fetishes out there why should homosexuals be more special than say guys that like golden showers ?
meant to be according to what?[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="Blaminator1221"] I consider natural as meant to be.Blaminator1221
Nature itself?! It obvious that the anus isn't meant to be a sex organ... There is no biological purpose to same gender sex and so on...
If its not meant to be used for sex then why does it feel good, huh?[QUOTE="arbitor365"]
[QUOTE="pimpog"]
What does slavery,murder and the cultural destruction of african americans, have to do with a guy that can't find the right hole ??
pimpog
these cases both deal with baseless bigotry (from people like you) and the denial of equal rights
Ok african americans are you guessed it darker than wait for it white people. It was no secret that we are "black" and we had no choice. It is a real cheap shot to ride the coat tails of millions of dead african americans to link us with the homosexual movement. There are many fetishes out there why should homosexuals be more special than say guys like golden showers ?
Because its not a fetish.[QUOTE="Blaminator1221"][QUOTE="alexside1"] meant to be according to what?toast_burner
Nature itself?! It obvious that the anus isn't meant to be a sex organ... There is no biological purpose to same gender sex and so on...
If its not meant to be used for sex then why does it feel good, huh? Ermm... i don't know haven't tried it lolSo then you agree that necrophilia and zoophilia are natural too?
Blaminator1221
meant to be according to what?[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="Blaminator1221"] I consider natural as meant to be.Blaminator1221
Nature itself?! It obvious that the anus isn't meant to be a sex organ... There is no biological purpose to same gender sex and so on...
There's no biological purpose to posting on a message board ether, yet here we are.
[QUOTE="pimpog"][QUOTE="arbitor365"]
these cases both deal with baseless bigotry (from people like you) and the denial of equal rights
toast_burner
Ok african americans are you guessed it darker than wait for it white people. It was no secret that we are "black" and we had no choice. It is a real cheap shot to ride the coat tails of millions of dead african americans to link us with the homosexual movement. There are many fetishes out there why should homosexuals be more special than say guys like golden showers ?
Because its not a fetish.Why is sodomy suddenly not a fetish anymore when did that suddenly change ??
Is there a point in kissing?[QUOTE="MagnumPI"]
Ultimately logically there is no point to putting the penis in another man's anus soclearly that's not what nature intended. But you can do it anyway. I don't recommend it but whatever.
Teenaged
why are we even bothering with these people?
- they dont understand, nor care to understand, what "natural" even means
- they refuse to accept the facts that homosexuality occurs in other species in nature
- they somehow confuse "natural" with "moral"
- when left no other options, they resort to ancient mythology, otherwise known as the bible, to back themselves up
meant to be according to what?[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="Blaminator1221"] I consider natural as meant to be.Blaminator1221
Nature itself?! It obvious that the anus isn't meant to be a sex organ... There is no biological purpose to same gender sex and so on...
On the contrary.Reproduction isnt the only biological purpose (assuming thats where you're basing your opinion that there is no biological purpose to same gender sex). Isnt satisfaction also a biological purpose?
Isnt a big part of any animal's life to satisfy carnal needs? Food, drink, sleep, sex etc.
Anatomy-wise, the anus can be considered a sex organ since it is sexually stimulatable.
meant to be according to what?[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="Blaminator1221"] I consider natural as meant to be.Blaminator1221
Nature itself?! It obvious that the anus isn't meant to be a sex organ... There is no biological purpose to same gender sex and so on...
That's ridiculous, there a lot of things that could be argued that wasn't originally ''design" by nature itself.[QUOTE="Blaminator1221"]
So then you agree that necrophilia and zoophilia are natural too?
foxhound_fox
A man does it for the same reasons many straight people do it. Intimacy or pleasure or both. It's perfectly logical.Ultimately logically there is no point to putting the penis in another man's anus soclearly that's not what nature intended. But you can do it anyway. I don't recommend it but whatever.
MagnumPI
[QUOTE="Blaminator1221"]
[QUOTE="alexside1"] meant to be according to what?Teenaged
Nature itself?! It obvious that the anus isn't meant to be a sex organ... There is no biological purpose to same gender sex and so on...
On the contrary.Reproduction isnt the only biological purpose (assuming thats where you're basing your opinion that there is no biological purpose to same gender sex). Isnt satisfaction also a biological purpose?
Isnt a big part of any animal's life to satisfy carnal needs? Food, drink, sleep, sex etc.
Anatomy-wise, the anus can be considered a sex organ since it is sexually stimulatable.
You can't go without food, water and sleep... animals don't do that for pleasure, they do it so survive.Please Log In to post.
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