Do you consider **** unnatural?

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#101 DJ-Lafleur
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no, stars are clearly natural since you see so many in the night sky all the time.

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#102 8-Bitterness
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animals apparently get it on with their same sexes all the time
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#103 TheFlush
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I'm both gay AND left handed! What does that make me? Artificial? Synthetic?

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#104 GabuEx
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I'm both gay AND left handed! What does that make me? Artificial? Synthetic?

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Well, I'm pretty sure that two unnaturals make a natural, so I think you're good.

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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve. I have yet to see proof that says otherwise. (Someone enlighten me)Capitan_Kid
Adam and Steve Is your mind now blown?

Sorry sweet cheeks. It takes a bit more than that to blow me.

Lol how convenient. This post gave me a good laugh.
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#106 X360PS3AMD05
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ROFL, wasn't it normal in the olden days for men to be bi-sexual? Also majority of gays say they don't engage in sodomy so i always find it funny straight males jump to that conclusion.........................hmmmmm...............little bit of a fantasy of theirs?
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#107 Niner0
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Is it natural? Yes, animals do it as well. Is it the way it was intended? Well, probably not. If something can go wrong in the head of a human, it can also go wrong in the head of an animal, as we are all essentially animals. However, even though there are animals who have homosexual relations, there are very few that are exclusively homo Don't get me wrong here, I don't have anything against homosexuals and I'm perfectly fine with people boinking their own gender, it's just that since they cannot conceive offspring, I do not believe it's biologically correct.

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#108 Overlord93
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IMO its just a slight psychological defect which cannot be avoided.

Its no different in my eyes from being left handed etc. Its just the way some people are.

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#109 Symphonycometh
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I think there is a reason and it may in fact be a natural response. I'll leave it at that.BranKetra

Solar eclipses are anomalies and unnatural.

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Just when I thought confusing posts in relation to topics couldn't get anymore confusing. :?
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#110 Symphonycometh
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Also, it's natural in humans the same way other things people find "off" are natural in humans. The only reason I don't frown on it (anymore) is due to the fact it isn't hurting anyone (unless they weren't open minded. @_@). Example: Incest can technically be fine if done right, and apparently is natural for some, so by the same logic I set for homosexuals, I'd extend to them. However, if the person's natural nature is damaging, I frown on it. I don't care how much one can't help it. Unless you're Dexter. He's so freaking win.
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#111 Bourbons3
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It occurs in nature, and it is an inborn trait - it's as natural as heterosexuality, just not as common.
[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]Gays are less unnatural than severe obesity. I've never seen an animal in the wild that's a couple times what it should be in body weight.xaos
That's why I'm so opposed to fat people marriage

Damn right.
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#112 Blaminator1221
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When i said homosexuality, i actually meant same gender sex, so my mistake... but it's basically the same thing because homosexuals have same gender sex... I think it's unnatural because the anus is not a sex organ and yes by that theory anal sex between man and woman is unnatural too, so is oral, but once again i don't condemn it...
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#113 LikeHaterade
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I don't think sex should be defined strictly on the grounds of reproduction, seeing as how there are many, many heterosexuals that have sex for other obvious reasons. So I think gay sex is perfectly natural.
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#114 Gallion-Beast
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There is no definition of "unnatural" that would not either make homosexuality natural or make left-handed people similarly unnatural.

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Unnatural: That which is gay. (You never said it had to be a good definition :P)
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#115 GabuEx
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

There is no definition of "unnatural" that would not either make homosexuality natural or make left-handed people similarly unnatural.

Gallion-Beast

Unnatural: That which is gay (You never said it had to be a good definition :P)

hurr durr

You win this round.

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#116 Silenthps
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There is no definition of "unnatural" that would not either make homosexuality natural or make left-handed people similarly unnatural.

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I could name a few but I'd probably get banned for most of them. So ill just say... "unholy"
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#117 btaylor2404
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Of course I believe it's natural.
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#118 ernie1989
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I consider it natural.

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#119 foxhound_fox
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Not at all. I actually consider heterosexuality "unnatural" as well, given that I think we are all conceived with an inherent bisexuality, and come to prefer one or the other over time (or just stay neutral). Now, how this occurs, I have no idea, but it probably has a lot to do with the uterine environment and what kind of hormones the unborn child is exposed to (more testosteron creates a heterosexual leaning, while more estrogen creates a homosexual leaning), and also has to do with what they are exposed to once they are born and developing.

Homosexuality is "natural" because it occurs in nature, and humans are a part of nature... so don't try and justify your homophobia with science, it just isn't going to work.

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#120 pimpog
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OK I don't think it is natural and I don't agree with it. However human are some sick animals if there is a fetish there is a human that is doing it. The main problem I have with the whole homosexual thing is what you do in your bed room is your biz. Now they want to act like they need to get married and we should tell our kids about them.

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#121 Blaminator1221
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Homosexuality is "natural" because it occurs in nature, and humans are a part of nature... so don't try and justify your homophobia with science, it just isn't going to work.foxhound_fox

So then you agree that necrophilia and zoophilia are natural too?

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#122 arbitor365
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Now they want to act like they need to get married and we should tell our kids about them.pimpog

its not that gays need to get married. back in the 50's, blacks didnt need to sit in front of the bus. They didnt need to drink from the same water fountain. but you know what? its not about whether or not they need to or even want these things. its the ****ing principle. why should gay people have to keep their relationships out of public life? why shouldnt they have the same rights as other couples?

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Homosexuality is "natural" because it occurs in nature, and humans are a part of nature... so don't try and justify your homophobia with science, it just isn't going to work.Blaminator1221

So then you agree that necrophilia and zoophilia are natural too?

for the twentieth time, YES. these facts only hurt the anti-gay arguments of those who call homosexuality unnatural (which assumes that being natural is a positive thing). Supporters of homosexuality and gay rights dont go around saying "homosexuality is acceptable becuase it is natural." the only people bringing this up are the anti-gays.

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[QUOTE="pimpog"]Now they want to act like they need to get married and we should tell our kids about them.arbitor365

its not that gays need to get married. back in the 50's, blacks didnt need to sit in front of the bus. They didnt need to drink from the same water fountain. but you know what? its not about whether or not they need to or even want these things. its the ****ing principle. why should gay people have to keep their relationships out of public life? why shouldnt they have the same rights as other couples?

What does slavery,murder and the cultural destruction of african americans, have to do with a guy that can't find the right hole ??

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[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

[QUOTE="pimpog"]Now they want to act like they need to get married and we should tell our kids about them.pimpog

its not that gays need to get married. back in the 50's, blacks didnt need to sit in front of the bus. They didnt need to drink from the same water fountain. but you know what? its not about whether or not they need to or even want these things. its the ****ing principle. why should gay people have to keep their relationships out of public life? why shouldnt they have the same rights as other couples?

What does slavery,murder and the cultural destruction of african americans, have to do with a guy that can't find the right hole ??

Or has actually found the right hole. *wink*

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#125 arbitor365
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[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

[QUOTE="pimpog"]Now they want to act like they need to get married and we should tell our kids about them.pimpog

its not that gays need to get married. back in the 50's, blacks didnt need to sit in front of the bus. They didnt need to drink from the same water fountain. but you know what? its not about whether or not they need to or even want these things. its the ****ing principle. why should gay people have to keep their relationships out of public life? why shouldnt they have the same rights as other couples?

What does slavery,murder and the cultural destruction of african americans, have to do with a guy that can't find the right hole ??

these cases both deal with baseless bigotry (from people like you) and the denial of equal rights

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for the twentieth time, YES. these facts only hurt the anti-gay arguments of those who call homosexuality unnatural (which assumes that being natural is a positive thing). Supporters of homosexuality and gay rights dont go around saying "homosexuality is acceptable becuase it is natural." the only people bringing this up are the anti-gays.

arbitor365

Uhhh no, not according to my experience.

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Well, if you guys consider necro and zoophilia natural, then i'm "defeaten", i'm waving the white flag, i surrender :)

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#128 alexside1
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Well, if you guys consider necro and zoophilia natural, then i'm "defeaten", i'm waving the white flag, i surrender :)

Blaminator1221
Don't be so quick to surrender bro when it comes to things.
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#129 Teenaged
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Well, if you guys consider necro and zoophilia natural, then i'm "defeaten", i'm waving the white flag, i surrender :)

Blaminator1221

Sounds to me you give the words "natural" and "unnatural" connotations that have to do with being acceptable or not, weird or not, repulsive or not etc.

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Well, if you guys consider necro and zoophilia natural, then i'm beating, i'm waving the white flag, i surrender :)Blaminator1221
The only problem with those two things is that corpses and animals can't give consent. If someone wrote "you can have sex with my corpse if you want" in their will. Then I see no problem with it (its still a bit weird that someone would want to, but its not harming anyone)
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#131 Blaminator1221
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[QUOTE="Blaminator1221"]

Well, if you guys consider necro and zoophilia natural, then i'm "defeaten", i'm waving the white flag, i surrender :)

Teenaged

Sounds to me you give the words "natural" and "unnatural" connotations that have to do with being acceptable or not, weird or not, repulsive or not etc.

I consider natural as meant to be.
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#132 MagnumPI
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Ultimately logically there is no point to putting the penis in another man's anus soclearly that's not what nature intended. But you can do it anyway. I don't recommend it but whatever.

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#133 alexside1
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Blaminator1221"]

Well, if you guys consider necro and zoophilia natural, then i'm "defeaten", i'm waving the white flag, i surrender :)

Blaminator1221

Sounds to me you give the words "natural" and "unnatural" connotations that have to do with being acceptable or not, weird or not, repulsive or not etc.

I consider natural as meant to be.

meant to be according to what?
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]

[QUOTE="Blaminator1221"]

Well, if you guys consider necro and zoophilia natural, then i'm "defeaten", i'm waving the white flag, i surrender :)

Blaminator1221

Sounds to me you give the words "natural" and "unnatural" connotations that have to do with being acceptable or not, weird or not, repulsive or not etc.

I consider natural as meant to be.

Can you clarify on that?

Meant to be according to who? God? Fate? Nature?

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#135 Teenaged
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Ultimately logically there is no point to putting the penis in another man's anus soclearly that's not what nature intended. But you can do it anyway. I don't recommend it but whatever.

MagnumPI

Is there a point in kissing?

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[QUOTE="Blaminator1221"][QUOTE="Teenaged"]Sounds to me you give the words "natural" and "unnatural" connotations that have to do with being acceptable or not, weird or not, repulsive or not etc.

alexside1

I consider natural as meant to be.

meant to be according to what?

Nature itself?! It obvious that the anus isn't meant to be a sex organ... There is no biological purpose to same gender sex and so on...

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[QUOTE="pimpog"]

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

its not that gays need to get married. back in the 50's, blacks didnt need to sit in front of the bus. They didnt need to drink from the same water fountain. but you know what? its not about whether or not they need to or even want these things. its the ****ing principle. why should gay people have to keep their relationships out of public life? why shouldnt they have the same rights as other couples?

arbitor365

What does slavery,murder and the cultural destruction of african americans, have to do with a guy that can't find the right hole ??

these cases both deal with baseless bigotry (from people like you) and the denial of equal rights

Ok african americans are you guessed it darker than wait for it white people. It was no secret that we are "black" and we had no choice. It is a real cheap shot to ride the coat tails of millions of dead african americans to link us with the homosexual movement. There are many fetishes out there why should homosexuals be more special than say guys that like golden showers ?

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[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="Blaminator1221"] I consider natural as meant to be.Blaminator1221

meant to be according to what?

Nature itself?! It obvious that the anus isn't meant to be a sex organ... There is no biological purpose to same gender sex and so on...

If its not meant to be used for sex then why does it feel good, huh?
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[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

[QUOTE="pimpog"]

What does slavery,murder and the cultural destruction of african americans, have to do with a guy that can't find the right hole ??

pimpog

these cases both deal with baseless bigotry (from people like you) and the denial of equal rights

Ok african americans are you guessed it darker than wait for it white people. It was no secret that we are "black" and we had no choice. It is a real cheap shot to ride the coat tails of millions of dead african americans to link us with the homosexual movement. There are many fetishes out there why should homosexuals be more special than say guys like golden showers ?

Because its not a fetish.
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#140 Blaminator1221
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[QUOTE="Blaminator1221"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"] meant to be according to what?toast_burner

Nature itself?! It obvious that the anus isn't meant to be a sex organ... There is no biological purpose to same gender sex and so on...

If its not meant to be used for sex then why does it feel good, huh?

Ermm... i don't know haven't tried it lol
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#141 foxhound_fox
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So then you agree that necrophilia and zoophilia are natural too?

Blaminator1221


Unnatural. Like heterosexuality and homosexuality. Preferring one thing over another is what is unnatural. I think we are biologically predisposed to no particular sexual preference (whether gender or fetish) and develop these preferences over time.

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#142 worlock77
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[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="Blaminator1221"] I consider natural as meant to be.Blaminator1221

meant to be according to what?

Nature itself?! It obvious that the anus isn't meant to be a sex organ... There is no biological purpose to same gender sex and so on...

There's no biological purpose to posting on a message board ether, yet here we are.

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#143 pimpog
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[QUOTE="pimpog"]

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

these cases both deal with baseless bigotry (from people like you) and the denial of equal rights

toast_burner

Ok african americans are you guessed it darker than wait for it white people. It was no secret that we are "black" and we had no choice. It is a real cheap shot to ride the coat tails of millions of dead african americans to link us with the homosexual movement. There are many fetishes out there why should homosexuals be more special than say guys like golden showers ?

Because its not a fetish.

Why is sodomy suddenly not a fetish anymore when did that suddenly change ??

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#144 arbitor365
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[QUOTE="MagnumPI"]

Ultimately logically there is no point to putting the penis in another man's anus soclearly that's not what nature intended. But you can do it anyway. I don't recommend it but whatever.

Teenaged

Is there a point in kissing?

why are we even bothering with these people?

- they dont understand, nor care to understand, what "natural" even means

- they refuse to accept the facts that homosexuality occurs in other species in nature

- they somehow confuse "natural" with "moral"

- when left no other options, they resort to ancient mythology, otherwise known as the bible, to back themselves up

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#145 Teenaged
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[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="Blaminator1221"] I consider natural as meant to be.Blaminator1221

meant to be according to what?

Nature itself?! It obvious that the anus isn't meant to be a sex organ... There is no biological purpose to same gender sex and so on...

On the contrary.

Reproduction isnt the only biological purpose (assuming thats where you're basing your opinion that there is no biological purpose to same gender sex). Isnt satisfaction also a biological purpose?

Isnt a big part of any animal's life to satisfy carnal needs? Food, drink, sleep, sex etc.

Anatomy-wise, the anus can be considered a sex organ since it is sexually stimulatable.

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#146 alexside1
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[QUOTE="alexside1"][QUOTE="Blaminator1221"] I consider natural as meant to be.Blaminator1221

meant to be according to what?

Nature itself?! It obvious that the anus isn't meant to be a sex organ... There is no biological purpose to same gender sex and so on...

That's ridiculous, there a lot of things that could be argued that wasn't originally ''design" by nature itself.
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#147 Blaminator1221
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[QUOTE="Blaminator1221"]

So then you agree that necrophilia and zoophilia are natural too?

foxhound_fox


Unnatural. Like heterosexuality and homosexuality. Preferring one thing over another is what is unnatural. I think we are biologically predisposed to no particular sexual preference (whether gender or fetish) and develop these preferences over time.

But all gay people say they didn't choose to be gay and so many committed suicide because they despise the fact they were gay :/

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#148 bcroger2
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Well, if you guys consider necro and zoophilia natural, then i'm "defeaten", i'm waving the white flag, i surrender :)

Blaminator1221
Yeah but animals/children/dead people can't fully consent, two adults of the same sex can.
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#149 LikeHaterade
Member since 2007 • 10645 Posts

Ultimately logically there is no point to putting the penis in another man's anus soclearly that's not what nature intended. But you can do it anyway. I don't recommend it but whatever.

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A man does it for the same reasons many straight people do it. Intimacy or pleasure or both. It's perfectly logical.
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#150 Blaminator1221
Member since 2010 • 455 Posts

[QUOTE="Blaminator1221"]

[QUOTE="alexside1"] meant to be according to what?Teenaged

Nature itself?! It obvious that the anus isn't meant to be a sex organ... There is no biological purpose to same gender sex and so on...

On the contrary.

Reproduction isnt the only biological purpose (assuming thats where you're basing your opinion that there is no biological purpose to same gender sex). Isnt satisfaction also a biological purpose?

Isnt a big part of any animal's life to satisfy carnal needs? Food, drink, sleep, sex etc.

Anatomy-wise, the anus can be considered a sex organ since it is sexually stimulatable.

You can't go without food, water and sleep... animals don't do that for pleasure, they do it so survive.