Do you guys are in favor or against the Death penalty?

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Exactly why I hate red tape. It can be good some times but be way too utterly detrimental at other times.

Suddenstriker52

I believe in vice versa; I'd rather an innocent man go to jail then a criminal go free...

You know you might end up regretting about what you're saying.

Becuase I might get falsely accused, right?

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Exactly why I hate red tape. It can be good some times but be way too utterly detrimental at other times.

battlefront23

I believe in vice versa; I'd rather an innocent man go to jail then a criminal go free...

That is absolutly horrible and I am pretty sure no one on earth agrees with you on that.

Why?

battlefront23

I would think an innocent person probably has a family, like most people do. You're not destroying one man's life; You're destroying his wife's life, his children's lives, his family's life.

[QUOTE="Suddenstriker52"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Exactly why I hate red tape. It can be good some times but be way too utterly detrimental at other times.

battlefront23

I believe in vice versa; I'd rather an innocent man go to jail then a criminal go free...

You know you might end up regretting about what you're saying.

Becuase I might get falsely accused, right?

It hasn't happened before:|

[QUOTE="SaugaGames"]

[QUOTE="paulbunker85"][QUOTE="SaugaGames"]Against. One, I don't think any of us should have the right to decide whether or not someone lives or dies. Two, killing them seems pointless. It's like giving them an escape. Why not keep them around in the prison system and make them feel what they've made others feel?paulbunker85

Someone is making that decision which is bad enough. As for your question, look at my other responses in this thread.

I can reply in five words... I am not a Christian.

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Exactly why I hate red tape. It can be good some times but be way too utterly detrimental at other times.

battlefront23

I believe in vice versa; I'd rather an innocent man go to jail then a criminal go free...

I hope that you're joking. Innocent people shouldn't rot in jail. There's already too many of them that are in jail or prison for crimes that they didn't commit. Then we got some murderers, rapists, child molestors, etc. who either get off scott free (Look at O.J. for example) or get lighter sentences. The justice system is sometimes flawed & so screwed up.

I'm in favor of the death penality, but only in cases where the person is caught red handed.Jemdude

Wait... ~ de arimasu

1. So even if there is enough evidence that the person commited the crime (or the person itself says so), if they were not caught in the act, they don't deserve death penalty? ~ de arimasuka

2. One of the Ten Commandments says "Thou shalt not kill". I'm Christian too, you know? ~ de arimasuka :P

Your opinion regarding this topic seems odd to me. ~ de arimasu

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Why?

DivergeUnify

I would think an innocent person probably has a family, like most people do. You're not destroying one man's life; You're destroying his wife's life, his children's lives, his family's life.

Our opinions differ, yes. But I still don't see why that's disgusting.

[QUOTE="DivergeUnify"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Why?

battlefront23

I would think an innocent person probably has a family, like most people do. You're not destroying one man's life; You're destroying his wife's life, his children's lives, his family's life.

Our opnions differ, yes. But I still don't see why that's disgusting.

I think only murderers should be put to death. They should have done to them, what they did to others. Rapists should be thrown in a cell with perverts who rape them. Someone who stabbed someone should be stabbed. Someone who beat someone up should be thrown in a cell with violent thugs who will beat them up. Etc.

Just do to them what they did to their victim, is what I believe in.

Our opnions differ, yes. But I still don't see why that's disgusting.

battlefront23

You're sacrificing justice and fairness for the sake of catching/killing a criminal.

This is the kind of **** the Romans believed when they crucified your Lord.

I think only murderers should be put to death. They should have done to them, what they did to others. Rapists should be thrown in a cell with perverts who rape them. Someone who stabbed someone should be stabbed. Someone who beat someone up should be thrown in a cell with violent thugs who will beat them up. Etc.

Just do to them what they did to their victim, is what I believe in.

Persecuted_1

An eye for an eye is fair, but how can you be sure the government will always be correct in who deserves what?

Against. One, I don't think any of us should have the right to decide whether or not someone lives or dies. Two, killing them seems pointless. It's like giving them an escape. Why not keep them around in the prison system and make them feel what they've made others feel?SaugaGames

Agreed. I'm against the death pen.

I'm all for the death penalty. Most prisons are over-crowded and alot of tax money is being wasted on many pathetic human beings that are on death row or serving life-sentences.

I believe also that there should be harsher penalties for so-called lesser crimes, just because where I live I've watched the crime rate sky-rocket over the past couple years, many were committed by repeat felons. Alot of criminals escalate in their crimes very rapidly, so I believe in harsher penalties (Now what those penalties should be is another matter) for lesser crimes. Example: There was a DJ that had his eyes cut out by a man here in town. The man who cut his eyes out had a list of prior felonies ranging from attempted batteries and aggravated assaults. Now if this guy had've been put away like he should've been in the first place that DJ may still have his eyes. You know they only charged the felon with another 'aggravated assault' instead of what it should've been, it should've been attempted murder charges, because what that guy did is just beyond sick.

As far as I'm concerned, I look at criminals as defective human beings and every measure that can be taken should be taken to keep them off the streets, I know alot of people say "Buh...buh...the criminals are humans too and they have rights..." All I can say is once you commit some of the atrocities that criminals like mentioned above commit "**** their rights!" Their rights should be forfeit. There's too many sick, demented, worthless beings just eating up taxpayer's money and repeatedly harming the communities that they're in and I for one am sick of it.

So in the case of murderers sitting on death row, I'm all for it, they could throw all the life-without parole criminals in with them for all I care, I mean they're just sitting there waiting to die anyway, so just get them out of the way and be done with it. I also wish harsher penalties would be brought about for rapist, pedophiles and sickos like mentioned above, too many of them get short sentences and are then released and end up committing the same crime over and over again, put them away for long sentences, make sure they won't be repeating those crimes anytime soon.

I feel very strongly about this issue, I'm tired of the crime-rate constantly going up, so let's knock it down a few notches.

Against, but not for the normal reasons.

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I think they deserve to rot in their cell. Why give them the easy way out when you can make them live locked up for 80 years?

I'm all for it. Why should we spend millions of dollars taking care of criminals when we that money could go towards building parks and schools?

boshlonavish

Of all the reasons I have heard to be in favor of the death penalty, this has got to be the silliest.

Against, mainly cause of mistakes.

I find the Death Penalty acceptable, depending on the crime. Some people dont deserve to live, especially the sick minded ones.tzar3

[QUOTE="tzar3"]I find the Death Penalty acceptable, depending on the crime. Some people dont deserve to live, especially the sick minded ones.foxhound_fox

Oh? Why the hell not?

[QUOTE="SaugaGames"]Against. One, I don't think any of us should have the right to decide whether or not someone lives or dies. Two, killing them seems pointless. It's like giving them an escape. Why not keep them around in the prison system and make them feel what they've made others feel?vidplayer8

Agreed.

And the law system can be flawed.

If there is ever any chance of an innocent person killed, I don't think I could live with myself. That risk just isn't worth it. For the death penalty to be enacted, I want a confession, or at least very very good proof.

I agree as well. But the thought of an innocent person being put to jail (especially for a life sentence) pisses me off to the core of the earth. Let's say my mother was put in jail for 15 years in prison and she was innocent. I dont think I can ever live in this country again. It would infuriate me to no end.

Another thing is the Jury system. It's flawed. Random people from all walks of life are suppose to decide whether you're innocent or guilty based on provided evidence that may not even hold up. The thought of it scares me, it frightens me. I never serve Jury duty when I get it in the mail. I just lie and make up some excuse not to go. I dare not take part in something that could ruin a person's life or family. Sure, someone will say.. well.. at the expense of a few innocent people being put to jail, we get to put a lot of bad people to prison. No, that just shows how the system is flawed.

I mean, look at the judge. They have to be the most heartless, cold=hearted, demons of the earth. I know they have to be firm because they deal with criminals but where is the compassion? They treat normal good honest people like they're s**t. How do they sleep at night? I hate the system, I hate the government. /rant

Oh? Why the hell not?tzar3

I have more favor on torture then killing. Yes I realize that its more inhumane and it's awful but I say death penalty is too leniant on some people.

My manager told me of this guy in some foreign country who raped and killed a little girl. He said that they stripped him but naked then tied him up to a pole. They whole community then procided to whip him. Yes, that was everyone in the community that guy probably won't be doing that again anytime soon.

blackldragon

I kind of agree with this.But then again I am very much against taking another humans life.They may have done something terrible but having to live in prison and think about it every day for the rest of their life is pretty painful I'm sure.I think only if you allow either the person raped,or the family of someone murdered should be aloud to say what they wish on the criminal.

[QUOTE="tzar3"]Oh? Why the hell not?foxhound_fox

Either way I am still up for the Death Penalty.

[QUOTE="blackldragon"]

I have more favor on torture then killing. Yes I realize that its more inhumane and it's awful but I say death penalty is too leniant on some people.

My manager told me of this guy in some foreign country who raped and killed a little girl. He said that they stripped him but naked then tied him up to a pole. They whole community then procided to whip him. Yes, that was everyone in the community that guy probably won't be doing that again anytime soon.

NakedSnake25

I kind of agree with this.But then again I am very much against taking another humans life.They may have done something terrible but having to live in prison and think about it every day for the rest of their life is pretty painful I'm sure.I think only if you allow either the person raped,or the family of someone murdered should be aloud to say what they wish on the criminal.

@blackdragon

wow, how are the townsfolk who whipped him that much better? who's to say he didnt have a mental illness? IMO prison is all about recovery, and we should change our view of jail as being a "recovery". i cant believe we call ourselves human beings when someone does something bad, and we procede to torture them.

From an idealogical standpoint, yes. Serial killers, serial rapists, child molesters, and other extremely heinous offenses should be put down.

Realistically? no. Legal fees are too much and bog down the court and innocent people die at times because of mistakes.

I would personally make them do work for the rest of their lives. Make them do jobs that nobody wants to do and have half the money earned go to the government and the other half to the family that was effected by the crime.CruxisXIII

Brilliant.

I'm against it. One, it is a gigantic waste of tax payer's dollars. It costs more to execute someone than it does to keep someone in prison for life . Two, I would rather see someone rot in a Maximum security **** hole for the rest of their life than see them painlessly executed.

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Edit 2: fixed for real this time.

I'm all for the death penalty. Most prisons are over-crowded and alot of tax money is being wasted on many pathetic human beings that are on death row or serving life-sentences.

crazygamer1

More money is wasted on a single case in which the death penalty is used than when the court puts away a person for life.

I believe also that there should be harsher penalties for so-called lesser crimes, just because where I live I've watched the crime rate sky-rocket over the past couple years, many were committed by repeat felons. Alot of criminals escalate in their crimes very rapidly, so I believe in harsher penalties (Now what those penalties should be is another matter) for lesser crimes. Example: There was a DJ that had his eyes cut out by a man here in town. The man who cut his eyes out had a list of prior felonies ranging from attempted batteries and aggravated assaults. Now if this guy had've been put away like he should've been in the first place that DJ may still have his eyes. You know they only charged the felon with another 'aggravated assault' instead of what it should've been, it should've been attempted murder charges, because what that guy did is just beyond sick.

crazygamer1

Harsher penalties for lesser crimes means our justice isn't fair. Rather, there should be harsher penalties for felons who repeat crimes, since these men/women are beyong hope if they keep commiting crimes.

As far as I'm concerned, I look at criminals as defective human beings and every measure that can be taken should be taken to keep them off the streets, I know alot of people say "Buh...buh...the criminals are humans too and they have rights..." All I can say is once you commit some of the atrocities that criminals like mentioned above commit "**** their rights!" Their rights should be forfeit. There's too many sick, demented, worthless beings just eating up taxpayer's money and repeatedly harming the communities that they're in and I for one am sick of it. So in the case of murderers sitting on death row, I'm all for it, they could throw all the life-without parole criminals in with them for all I care, I mean they're just sitting there waiting to die anyway, so just get them out of the way and be done with it.

crazygamer1

But giving them the death penalty costs more than putting them away in a maximum security prison for life. Then there is the problem where we could be sending an innocent man to death row.

I feel very strongly about this issue, I'm tired of the crime-rate constantly going up, so let's knock it down a few notches.

crazygamer1

The crime rate in the country has gone down across the board for the past decade and over.

I'm against it. One, it is a gigantic waste of tax payer's dollars. It costs more to keep someone in prison for life than it does to execute them. Two, I would rather see someone rot in a Maximum security **** hole for the rest of their life than see them painlessly executed.laughingman42

What? :?

[QUOTE="laughingman42"]I'm against it. One, it is a gigantic waste of tax payer's dollars. It costs more to keep someone in prison for life than it does to execute them. Two, I would rather see someone rot in a Maximum security **** hole for the rest of their life than see them painlessly executed.The_Ish

What? :?

you read that right.

http://www.amnestyusa.org/death-penalty/death-penalty-facts/death-penalty-cost/page.do?id=1101084&n1=3&n2=28&n3=99

EDIT: Damnit I need to proo read my posts

[QUOTE="tzar3"]Oh? Why the hell not?foxhound_fox

No, only certain people convicted of certain crimes.

The death penalty has been around for thousands of years, why stop now?

I'm against it. One, it is a gigantic waste of tax payer's dollars. It costs execute someone than it does to more to keep someone in prison for life . Two, I would rather see someone rot in a Maximum security **** hole for the rest of their life than see them painlessly executed.

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laughingman42

1. I hardly think it's right to kill someone for purely economic reasons.

2. That's... quite malicious. :?

Speaking of painless execution... it's possible to be executed by centrifuge. It's painless; they just spin you round until you black out, after which they continue to spin you round until your brain loses its oxygen. No one wants to use it for executions because it produces feelings of euphoria.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="tzar3"]Oh? Why the hell not?harden007

No, only certain people convicted of certain crimes.

The death penalty has been around for thousands of years, why stop now?

That's a fallacious appeal to tradition.