Do you have a H1N1? Smoke pot

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#101 zmbi_gmr
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Oh yeah smart idea. Suppress your immune system when your sick....duxup

this may be the funniest post i've ever read from you, and i'm sure that you didn't mean for it to be funny. :lol:

btw i agree w/ your post, and i'm pro marijuana

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#102 TheGreatOutdoor
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No I don't need to provide a link and no it is not me case, it is facts. If he doesn't believe me, well good for him, but what he (or you) believe changes nothing. Facts speak very loudly and need no help from me. If you are uninformed, then it is your job to become informed, not my job to spoon feed anybody just because they don't know or don't believe me. They can learn about these things the same way I did. By doing their own research. My mother has Glaucoma and that's why I first started looking into it. I see it like this. By ALL means, please don't believe me, I couldn't care less.

LJS9502_basic

Then your argument comes down to unstubstantiated opinion.

:lol: That is where you seem to be confused. I have no argument. I am just stating facts. I don't argue or defend facts, they do that on their own. just because you are uninformed, doesn't change those facts to opinions. It just simply means you are uninformed and based on what you have typed so far, you seem to not care to me informed or you would have already used Google by now.

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#103 XD4NTESINF3RNOX
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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="TheWiikestLink"] if i told you the sky was blue would i have to show you a link to it? I came into this thread to seriously discuss this,i would assume you would have enogh information about it to post. :) that's all. Im not saying anything that hasn't been said before.(maybe the thread title might be a bit misleading :D)TheWiikestLink

By all appearances, you came in here expecting everyone to agree with you :\

no sir...im more like the Fox news but without the goverment paying me to report TRUTH. like everything,including religion,you dont have to accepted it,but when it makes sense it makes sense.


Let me also be clear that I never endorse the use of marijuana for anyone especially minors. Humans have a sensitive biology at younger ages and should get advice from an adult before they take a vitamin yet alone marijuana. So if this is an inappropriate chat for this forum by all means, delete it. But please don't translate my defense of factual science as an endorsement of illegal activity.

I'm just here to provide counter-points to false accusations.

why do you want us too try it so bad can't you just use and be on with your day? i love energy drinks but i don't go around making threads about them

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#104 Adrianstalker
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[QUOTE="Adrianstalker"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]And they don't admit to the negatives....which is why I don't take the arguments seriously.

LJS9502_basic

Funny, I have yet to see you admit the negatives on the war on drugs, which in any means, overcome any negatives that pot itself may cause. The war on drugs kill innocent people caught on the crossfire, pot doesn't kill anyone. So you will admit you support an agenda that not only is a failure in terms of efficiency, but also responsible to numerous of unjust deaths?

Actually I provided links that do show pot has contributed to death. If you know my posts that well then you should know that.

I missed those links. Care to post again? Im realy curious to see how many people died because of pot use. What was the source?

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#105 LJS9502_basic
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:lol: That is where you seem to be confused. I have no argument. I am just stating facts. I don't argue or defend facts, they do that on their own. just because you are uninformed, doesn't change those facts to opinions. It just simply means you are uninformed and based on what you have typed so far, you seem to not care to me informed or you would have already used Google by now.

TheGreatOutdoor

Facts in regard to this subject depend on which sites one gets the facts. Again you assume I am uninformed because I said you need to provide backing for your statements in a discussion. Thus far, you have not. And insulting others due to this lack is not how one makes points either.:|

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#106 TheWiikestLink
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[QUOTE="duxup"]Oh yeah smart idea. Suppress your immune system when your sick....zmbi_gmr

this may be the funniest post i've ever read from you, and i'm sure that you didn't mean for it to be funny. :lol:

btw i agree w/ your post, and i'm pro marijuana

how is that funny? swine flu makes your immune system go into overdrive like i said before....supressing it is the smart thing to do....:|
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#107 TheGreatOutdoor
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[QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]

:lol: That is where you seem to be confused. I have no argument. I am just stating facts. I don't argue or defend facts, they do that on their own. just because you are uninformed, doesn't change those facts to opinions. It just simply means you are uninformed and based on what you have typed so far, you seem to not care to me informed or you would have already used Google by now.

LJS9502_basic

Facts in regard to this subject depend on which sites one gets the facts. Again you assume I am uninformed because I said you need to provide backing for your statements in a discussion. Thus far, you have not. And insulting others due to this lack is not how one makes points either.:|

:lol: I never insulted anybody. Saying somebody is uninformed on a subject/issue is not insulting. I just don't care to be your teacher today. If you know about what I am saying, then stop pestering me for a link. If you don't know, then again I say to you. Go use Google.

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#108 TheWiikestLink
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[QUOTE="TheWiikestLink"]

[QUOTE="xaos"] By all appearances, you came in here expecting everyone to agree with you :\XD4NTESINF3RNOX

no sir...im more like the Fox news but without the goverment paying me to report TRUTH. like everything,including religion,you dont have to accepted it,but when it makes sense it makes sense.


Let me also be clear that I never endorse the use of marijuana for anyone especially minors. Humans have a sensitive biology at younger ages and should get advice from an adult before they take a vitamin yet alone marijuana. So if this is an inappropriate chat for this forum by all means, delete it. But please don't translate my defense of factual science as an endorsement of illegal activity.

I'm just here to provide counter-points to false accusations.

why do you want us too try it so bad can't you just use and be on with your day? i love energy drinks but i don't go around making threads about them

wtf are you talking about?

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#109 effena
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[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"]

why do you want us too try it so bad can't you just use and be on with your day? i love energy drinks but i don't go around making threads about them

TheWiikestLink

wtf are you talking about?

That's what I was just gonna say...made no sense

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#111 TheWiikestLink
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No, I don't have a "H1N1" or smoke pot. I've been clean since after grade 9.

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#112 duxup
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[QUOTE="zmbi_gmr"]

[QUOTE="duxup"]Oh yeah smart idea. Suppress your immune system when your sick....TheWiikestLink

this may be the funniest post i've ever read from you, and i'm sure that you didn't mean for it to be funny. :lol:

btw i agree w/ your post, and i'm pro marijuana

how is that funny? swine flu makes your immune system go into overdrive like i said before....supressing it is the smart thing to do....:|

You make it sound as if that one potential reaction is the danger of swine flu. That is the human body's reaction to a virus. There is a big difference between what a virus does (basic biology) and the human body's reaction. Let's just pretend (because that is all there is at this point) that smoking when you're seriously ill with the swine flu would in fact suppress the immune system. You've got nothing to show that it would do so in any helpful way and there is no reason to think it would stop the swine flu from killing you... you know the disease that is actually the danger?

Suppressing the immune system by smoking when you have the swine flu is the smartest thing to do when you're sick by smoking? Based on no science whatsoever? Like I said this is just the grasping at straws that makes such a movement look bad. I can't tell if you're seriously trying to promote this cause or make it look bad.

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#113 LJS9502_basic
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I missed those links. Care to post again? Im realy curious to see how many people died because of pot use. What was the source?

Adrianstalker

Here's some light reading.

And this.

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#114 LJS9502_basic
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[]:lol: I never insulted anybody. Saying somebody is uninformed on a subject/issue is not insulting. I just don't care to be your teacher today. If you know about what I am saying, then stop pestering me for a link. If you don't know, then again I say to you. Go use Google.

TheGreatOutdoor

I'm not asking you to provide anything. But that leaves your argument unsubstantiated. Period.;)

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#115 XD4NTESINF3RNOX
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[QUOTE="TheWiikestLink"]

[QUOTE="XD4NTESINF3RNOX"]

why do you want us too try it so bad can't you just use and be on with your day? i love energy drinks but i don't go around making threads about them

effena

wtf are you talking about?

That's what I was just gonna say...made no sense

I'm just saying why do people want us to care about pot so much
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#117 TheGreatOutdoor
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[QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]

[]:lol: I never insulted anybody. Saying somebody is uninformed on a subject/issue is not insulting. I just don't care to be your teacher today. If you know about what I am saying, then stop pestering me for a link. If you don't know, then again I say to you. Go use Google.

LJS9502_basic

I'm not asking you to provide anything. But that leaves your argument unsubstantiated. Period.;)

What part of "I have no argument" are you missing?

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#118 Statutory_AP3
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#120 Darth_Tyrev
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I'd say it's a bad idea to get high when you're sick...

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#121 SpaceMoose
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I'm so tired of stoners coming up with nonsense reasons to support their blatant disregard of the law (in the US). Marijuana has it's medicinal uses, but this does not appear to be one of them in reality.
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#122 SpaceMoose
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Oh yeah smart idea. Suppress your immune system when your sick....duxup
Are you saying that a pro-marijuana website might be biased to the point of absurdity about marijuana?
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#123 matma7
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I didnt want to read through 5 pages of posts so someone might of already said this.

Yeah pot is cool, its a laugh when your younger, then you depend on it. after a while you might move onto harder stuff, pills, coke, crack.

It's not always the case but before you know it, your life is a mess, your paranoid, depressed. Schizo-f*cking-phrenic

FEck,my best mate took his life - and im the one with a personality disorder.

Someof the best times i've had i was high -It F*cked my life up though - big time!!!

MATT

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#124 duxup
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[QUOTE="duxup"]Oh yeah smart idea. Suppress your immune system when your sick....SpaceMoose
Are you saying that a pro-marijuana website might be biased to the point of absurdity about marijuana?

Maybe, just MAYBE.
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#125 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Then your argument comes down to unstubstantiated opinion.

-xPANICx-

:lol: That is where you seem to be confused. I have no argument. I am just stating facts. I don't argue or defend facts, they do that on their own. just because you are uninformed, doesn't change those facts to opinions. It just simply means you are uninformed and based on what you have typed so far, you seem to not care to me informed or you would have already used Google by now.

dude dont even bother trying to convince lj that pot can be benifitial. he lives in his own little biased world and refuses to believe anything beside what he wants to believe is true. its the same argument with him every time.

Not at all biased. I looked at both sides of the issue while those arguing against me have only looked at one.

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#126 MetalGear_Ninty
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Well, the immune system can harm the body, for example in the case of elastase enzymes breaking down elastic fibre in the alveoli. Whilst the doctor in that article has made a theory, there's no scientific evidence as of yet to support the theory of using cannabis as treatement of swine flu.
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#127 matma7
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just been Reading through a few post and i thought i'd add a bit more.

Cannabis contains dozens maybe a 100 or so active compounds (tried to find out but to no avail). Say it has 100, 50 of these may be benificial whilst the other 50 will be detrimental. Yes it may have an effect on the immume system but what else is it doing, do the benifits outweigh the risk.

I'm sure there's a lot of pot smokers out there who think - meh, its cool - i'm also sure that there's people who've have had friends with cannabis induced schizophrenia - And others who useit to great effect for releiving MS.

It's like playing Russian Roulette with your mind if you ask me!

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#128 pis3rch
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I'd say it's a bad idea to get high when you're sick...

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Depends on the illness imo. Smoking is obviously a bad idea with fevers and any kind of respiratory issues or coughing, but it helps with nausea and abdominal pain a lot.
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#129 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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What an odd thread.
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#130 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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I didnt want to read through 5 pages of posts so someone might of already said this.

Yeah pot is cool, its a laugh when your younger, then you depend on it. after a while you might move onto harder stuff, pills, coke, crack.

It's not always the case but before you know it, your life is a mess, your paranoid, depressed. Schizophrenic

,my best mate took his life - and im the one with a personality disorder.

matma7
Dude, pot did none of that. Don't blame the drug. And the whole gateway thing is silly. That's like: "Oh, I got drunk, so I can't be blamed for my actions" Yeah, same nonsense.
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#131 TheGreatOutdoor
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Personally, I support full legalization of marijuana, not just medical use. Just treat it the same way you do alcohol.

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#132 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="matma7"]

I didnt want to read through 5 pages of posts so someone might of already said this.

Yeah pot is cool, its a laugh when your younger, then you depend on it. after a while you might move onto harder stuff, pills, coke, crack.

It's not always the case but before you know it, your life is a mess, your paranoid, depressed. Schizophrenic

,my best mate took his life - and im the one with a personality disorder.

Jandurin

Dude, pot did none of that. Don't blame the drug. And the whole gateway thing is silly. That's like: "Oh, I got drunk, so I can't be blamed for my actions" Yeah, same nonsense.

Depends on the individual. Pot can or cannot be a gateway drug depending on the user. I've known people that got heavily involved in drugs that stated that was why. I'm not going to argue their opinion as they would be the only ones to know.

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#133 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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i'm also sure that there's people who've have had friends with cannabis induced schizophrenia -matma7
It doesn't "cause" schizophrenia. It *can* cause an onset of schizophrenia that had not yet shown itself. But, you must be predisposed.
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Depends on the individual. Pot can or cannot be a gateway drug depending on the user. I've known people that got heavily involved in drugs that stated that was why. I'm not going to argue their opinion as they would be the only ones to know.

LJS9502_basic
I'm just saying correlation does not equal causation. Also, I fear part of the reason marijuana could lead to harder drug use is because the adults make marijuana sound super scary, and then a kid tries it and says, "that wasn't scary, maybe the rest isn't so bad". But, the rest IS so bad, and is much more heavily habit forming. *shrug*
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#135 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Depends on the individual. Pot can or cannot be a gateway drug depending on the user. I've known people that got heavily involved in drugs that stated that was why. I'm not going to argue their opinion as they would be the only ones to know.

Jandurin

I'm just saying correlation does not equal causation. Also, I fear part of the reason marijuana could lead to harder drug use is because the adults make marijuana sound super scary, and then a kid tries it and says, "that wasn't scary, maybe the rest isn't so bad". But, the rest IS so bad, and is much more heavily habit forming. *shrug*

No. The reason is the high becomes not as exhilerating. Thus, they seek out more.

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#136 jimmyjammer69
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[QUOTE="matma7"]i'm also sure that there's people who've have had friends with cannabis induced schizophrenia -Jandurin
It doesn't "cause" schizophrenia. It *can* cause an onset of schizophrenia that had not yet shown itself. But, you must be predisposed.

That's certainly the most popular theory, but seeing as there's no way of knowing for sure whether you're predisposed, the russian roullette analogy seems a fair one. Not everyone who was predisposed would ever develop symptoms without the aid of cannabis or a few other substances.
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#137 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="matma7"]i'm also sure that there's people who've have had friends with cannabis induced schizophrenia -Jandurin
It doesn't "cause" schizophrenia. It *can* cause an onset of schizophrenia that had not yet shown itself. But, you must be predisposed.

Perhaps. But they haven't actually answered that yet. Thus...it is a risk.

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#138 pis3rch
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Personally, I support full legalization of marijuana, not just medical use. Just treat it the same way you do alcohol.

TheGreatOutdoor
Even if you currently don't support medical use, you HAVE to admit that there is medical potential that we should definitely look into. One study found that THC attacked brain cancer cells without harming healthy brain cells. Do you realize how much potential this compound could have? I'm not saying that marijuana cures cancer just based on this one study, but you have to admit that medical marijuana deserves some attention.
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No. The reason is the high becomes not as exhilerating. Thus, they seek out more.

LJS9502_basic
I don't buy that.
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#140 JimCarreyForYou
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I dont smoke
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That's certainly the most popular theory, but seeing as there's no way of knowing for sure whether you're predisposed, the russian roullette analogy seems a fair one. Not everyone who was predisposed would ever develop symptoms without the aid of cannabis or a few other substances.jimmyjammer69
Yer, I suppose it is a bit of a risk. But, you can determine predisposition by genetics to some degree?
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#142 jimmyjammer69
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[QUOTE="pis3rch"][QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]

Personally, I support full legalization of marijuana, not just medical use. Just treat it the same way you do alcohol.

Even if you currently don't support medical use, you HAVE to admit that there is medical potential that we should definitely look into. One study found that THC attacked brain cancer cells without harming healthy brain cells. Do you realize how much potential this compound could have? I'm not saying that marijuana cures cancer just based on this one study, but you have to admit that medical marijuana deserves some attention.

True. There's been way too much hesitation when it comes to use of analogues and synthetics in medicine.
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#143 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

No. The reason is the high becomes not as exhilerating. Thus, they seek out more.

Jandurin

I don't buy that.

Well...I've read studies when I attended psychology cIasses that arrived at that conclusion. *shrugs* I think I'll stick with psychology rather than internet user....no offense.

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#144 pis3rch
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I think people move on to harder drugs because when they want to buy some weed, they have to go to some shady dealer who wants nothing more than to make money off them. He's definitely going to try to get them to try something else, and just being in a drug filled environment like that is bound to pique one's curiosity.
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

No. The reason is the high becomes not as exhilerating. Thus, they seek out more.

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I don't buy that.

Well...I've read studies when I attended psychology cIasses that arrived at that conclusion. *shrugs* I think I'll stick with psychology rather than internet user....no offense.

hah. I took psychology classes. I'm sure I would remember had they mentioned yours as *the* reason. Sure, it's a possible one, but the way you stated it has it as the main reason.
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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="pis3rch"][QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]

Personally, I support full legalization of marijuana, not just medical use. Just treat it the same way you do alcohol.

Even if you currently don't support medical use, you HAVE to admit that there is medical potential that we should definitely look into. One study found that THC attacked brain cancer cells without harming healthy brain cells. Do you realize how much potential this compound could have? I'm not saying that marijuana cures cancer just based on this one study, but you have to admit that medical marijuana deserves some attention.

True. There's been way too much hesitation when it comes to use of analogues and synthetics in medicine.

I wish people would start studying hallucinogenics for their potential as depression meds. A study was done using magic mushrooms, and a vast majority of subjects felt that the drug had positively impacted their lives with a noticeable uplift of their general mood for up to two months after the experience. They also said that doing mushrooms was the single most spiritual experience of their lives. Imagine if someone tweaked around with the compounds a bit and made something synthetic that acted on the serotonin receptors that induce euphoria, but not the ones that cause hallucinations. People could do one dose that would slowly work on these receptors and give them the necessary mood uplift without the "tripping."
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#147 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"] I don't buy that.Jandurin

Well...I've read studies when I attended psychology cIasses that arrived at that conclusion. *shrugs* I think I'll stick with psychology rather than internet user....no offense.

hah. I took psychology classes. I'm sure I would remember had they mentioned yours as *the* reason. Sure, it's a possible one, but the way you stated it has it as the main reason.

Every study on the subject has stated it as such. There is a levelling off of the effect of the high. Some people are quite content to remain that way. However, others seek more of a high again and thus the marijuana became a gateway to the effects of drugs for them. If you studied psychology you SHOULD have touched on this.

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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]That's certainly the most popular theory, but seeing as there's no way of knowing for sure whether you're predisposed, the russian roullette analogy seems a fair one. Not everyone who was predisposed would ever develop symptoms without the aid of cannabis or a few other substances.Jandurin
Yer, I suppose it is a bit of a risk. But, you can determine predisposition by genetics to some degree?

You can be sure that you're in a higher risk group if you're aware a family member has suffered from mental illness, but lack of knowledge doesn't guarantee that you're not in the group. Maybe you're right, and DNA tests could be used to determine predisposition, but I can't imagine every potential smoker being screened before his first toke. If there was a way to be certain, I think a lot of the opposition would disappear.
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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="pis3rch"] Even if you currently don't support medical use, you HAVE to admit that there is medical potential that we should definitely look into. One study found that THC attacked brain cancer cells without harming healthy brain cells. Do you realize how much potential this compound could have? I'm not saying that marijuana cures cancer just based on this one study, but you have to admit that medical marijuana deserves some attention. pis3rch
True. There's been way too much hesitation when it comes to use of analogues and synthetics in medicine.

I wish people would start studying hallucinogenics for their potential as depression meds. A study was done using magic mushrooms, and a vast majority of subjects felt that the drug had positively impacted their lives with a noticeable uplift of their general mood for up to two months after the experience. They also said that doing mushrooms was the single most spiritual experience of their lives. Imagine if someone tweaked around with the compounds a bit and made something synthetic that acted on the serotonin receptors that induce euphoria, but not the ones that cause hallucinations. People could do one dose that would slowly work on these receptors and give them the necessary mood uplift without the "tripping."

I'm always a bit sceptical about chemical mood alteration. I guess I'm from an old school that believes that if you're miserable, it's the life situation that needs sorting out instead of using chemicals to cheer you up. I've seen pill-heads who are out caning it every weekend, and the long term results just seem to be apathy and ever deepening depression.
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#150 pis3rch
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[QUOTE="pis3rch"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"] True. There's been way too much hesitation when it comes to use of analogues and synthetics in medicine.jimmyjammer69
I wish people would start studying hallucinogenics for their potential as depression meds. A study was done using magic mushrooms, and a vast majority of subjects felt that the drug had positively impacted their lives with a noticeable uplift of their general mood for up to two months after the experience. They also said that doing mushrooms was the single most spiritual experience of their lives. Imagine if someone tweaked around with the compounds a bit and made something synthetic that acted on the serotonin receptors that induce euphoria, but not the ones that cause hallucinations. People could do one dose that would slowly work on these receptors and give them the necessary mood uplift without the "tripping."

I'm always a bit sceptical about chemical mood alteration. I guess I'm from an old school that believes that if you're miserable, it's the life situation that needs sorting out instead of using chemicals to cheer you up. I've seen pill-heads who are out caning it every weekend, and the long term results just seem to be apathy and ever deepening depression.

Very true, my post was under the assumption that depression is a wholly medical problem that can be fixed with meds. Its very likely that many people could cure their depression by sorting their lives out rather than using pills.