Do you still watch Seinfeld even though Kramer is considerd a racist?

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#151 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="pseudodog07"]He's not racist, he just was excercising his free speech. Sad, some of you are horrified by such a thing as free speech, or will only accept that form of talk from rappers.pseudodog07

Don't even try the "free speech" thing. Free speech is what kept him from getting ARRESTED. But the comedy club exercised THEIR free speech by banning him, and the media exercised their free speech by tearing the guy apart. If RICHARDS had such a problem with other people exercising THEIR free speech as a reaction to HIS free speech, then he shouldn't have said what he said.

I think you just made my point. You hate free speech, unless it comes from a rappers mouth.

Oh quite the contrary. Between you and I, I'm the only one actually DEFENDING free speech.

You apparently don't know how free speech works. Free speech does NOT mean that no one can criticize a a white guy for being racist.

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#152 pseudodog07
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[QUOTE="pseudodog07"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

Don't even try the "free speech" thing. Free speech is what kept him from getting ARRESTED. But the comedy club exercised THEIR free speech by banning him, and the media exercised their free speech by tearing the guy apart. If RICHARDS had such a problem with other people exercising THEIR free speech as a reaction to HIS free speech, then he shouldn't have said what he said.

MrGeezer

I think you just made my point. You hate free speech, unless it comes from a rappers mouth.

Oh quite the contrary. Between you and I, I'm the only one actually DEFENDING free speech.

You apparently don't know how free speech works. Free speech does NOT mean that no one can criticize a a white guy for being racist.

You seem to be advocating the drastic measures you cited, so where's your free speech advocation? By free speech I mean the right to speak freelly or stupidly as you want to without such a mob, big brother like mentality afterwards.
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[QUOTE="gotdangit"]What did he say? I will always watch it.Boston_Boyy

this whole video
Warning offensive langague

omfg:shock:

i never thought he would be like that,

he 's not, just a racest, he is plain uneducated kkk

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#154 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="pseudodog07"] I think you just made my point. You hate free speech, unless it comes from a rappers mouth.pseudodog07

Oh quite the contrary. Between you and I, I'm the only one actually DEFENDING free speech.

You apparently don't know how free speech works. Free speech does NOT mean that no one can criticize a a white guy for being racist.

You seem to be advocating the drastic measures you cited, so where's your free speech advocation? By free speech I mean the right to speak freelly or stupidly as you want to without such a mob, big brother like mentality afterwards.

Again, you don't understand how free speech works. If you protect a person from getting fired and criticised after making racist comments, then you are infringing upon the free speech of everyone who disagrees with him.

Free speech doesn't just apply to certain people. If free speech lets Michael Richards make racist remarks, then free speech also allows him to get ripped apart by the media.

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#155 FragStains
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Yes. Why wouldn't I? You think that it hurts his feelings if you don't watch his show in syndication?
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#156 pseudodog07
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="pseudodog07"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

Oh quite the contrary. Between you and I, I'm the only one actually DEFENDING free speech.

You apparently don't know how free speech works. Free speech does NOT mean that no one can criticize a a white guy for being racist.

You seem to be advocating the drastic measures you cited, so where's your free speech advocation? By free speech I mean the right to speak freelly or stupidly as you want to without such a mob, big brother like mentality afterwards.

Again, you don't understand how free speech works. If you protect a person from getting fired and criticised after making racist comments, then you are infringing upon the free speech of everyone who disagrees with him.

Free speech doesn't just apply to certain people. If free speech lets Michael Richards make racist remarks, then free speech also allows him to get ripped apart by the media.

If you were truley a free speech advocate, you would defend Richards, not the mob of people attacking his speel. Clearly you are not and are the one who should "not even try with the free speech thing".
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#157 MrGeezer
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If you were truley a free speech advocate, you would defend Richards, not the mob of people attacking his speel. Clearly you are not and are the one who should "not even try with the free speech thing".pseudodog07

I don't have to defend him, because his free speech was never violated. Again, you simply don't understand free speech. I'll bet that you also think that your free speech is being violated when Gamespot moderates you for Terms of Use violations.

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[QUOTE="jointed"]It's hilarious how the TC never comes with a proper response to any of the arguments made against his flawed opinion. I've never watched a single episode of Seinfield though.leeveeu
I could not agree more!

Me too!!
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#159 pseudodog07
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="pseudodog07"]

If you were truley a free speech advocate, you would defend Richards, not the mob of people attacking his speel. Clearly you are not and are the one who should "not even try with the free speech thing".

I don't have to defend him, because his free speech was never violated. Again, you simply don't understand free speech. I'll bet that you also think that your free speech is being violated when Gamespot moderates you for Terms of Use violations.

Yes, it is. I'm talking about the right to truely speak freely, without moderation or mobs. You are just spewing some form of legaleaze, in an effort to curtail free speech in general. Sad, you think you are a free speech advocate. No way, buddy.
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#160 MrGeezer
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="pseudodog07"]

If you were truley a free speech advocate, you would defend Richards, not the mob of people attacking his speel. Clearly you are not and are the one who should "not even try with the free speech thing".pseudodog07

I don't have to defend him, because his free speech was never violated. Again, you simply don't understand free speech. I'll bet that you also think that your free speech is being violated when Gamespot moderates you for Terms of Use violations.

Yes, it is. I'm talking about the right to truely speak freely, without moderation or mobs. You are just spewing some form of legaleaze, in an effort to curtail free speech in general. Sad, you think you are a free speech advocate. No way, buddy.

And that's how free speech WORKS. Because in order to protect Michael Richards or Mel Gibson or Paris Hilton or President Bush from criticism, you have to REMOVE people's ability to freely criticise them.

So I'd like you to explain to ME how that works. How is it that Michael Richards should be able to publicly make racist comments against blacks, yet the people hearing those comments can't make comments against Michael Richards? Explain to me HOW you can be FOR free speech when you think that his employer shouldn't have the free speech to fire Michael Richards' ass when he says things that hurt their reputation.

Again, free speech applies to EVERYONE. I'm curious as to what justification YOU have for the notion that free speech should only apply to racists.

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#161 I_pWnzz_YoU
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[QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"][QUOTE="p2rus"]Most of the racial jokes i see in black shows are... nonexistant. I dont hear racial slurs and anger on black shows. your trying to change the argument into a discussion on double standards. That would be your agenda. However, its not that complicated. I won't watch your show and I won''t listen to your material if you verbally assault someone and scream derogatory epithets at them!MrGeezer

It was a minor slip up. It's the only time he's done something like that and he apologized for it later. Not watching the show because of something so small as that is just idiotic.

:lol: What was he gonna do, NOT apologize for it?

He was pretty much washed up at the time anyway, and NOT apologizing would have been CERTAIN death for his career.

Not that I'm saying that his apology wasn't genuine. Here's the thing...if you accept that his apology was genuine and sincere, then you ALSO have to accept that he was being genuine and sincere when, during his apology, he stated that he had racial issues that he had to work on resolving.

I don't see why people have such a need to DEFEND the guy. HE admitted that he crossed the line, HE admitted that he had racial issues that he needed to resolve, and I can still enjoy his performance in Seinfeld even though I'm black, and what he said was TOTALLY racist against blacks. And he also deserved EVERY BIT of backlash that he got.

I don't hate the guy, and I don't think that he's a closet KKK member out to get destroy the blacks. But that doesn't mean that he's not a racist. And yes, Mel Gibson is an anti-semite even if he sometimes makes great movies. If he makes a great movie and keeps his anti-semitism OUT of his movie, then I'll probably watch his next movie if the subject matter interests me. But I can certainly UNDERSTAND if a jewish person boycott's Mel's movie on general principle. Similarly, if Michael Richards stars in a movie, I'm willing to watch it if it's GOOD (which is unlikely considering that his standup material sort of sucked and most of the movies and TV shows he's been in have been crap), and if he keeps his racism OUT OF THE MOVIE. But that's not very likely to happen. He pretty much killed his career. He's not coming back any time soon, for good reason. What he said WAS horrible, the backlash against him was 100% justified, and that's no one's but Michael Richards' fault.

WHY try to defend the guy? It WASN'T supposed to be a joke. And if it WAS supposed to be a joke, then he failed so badly at it that he deserves to get banished from the comedy scene purely based on how unfunny his material is. I'm not saying that he's a bad guy, or that I wouldn't hang out at the bar with him, but those were purely angry racist and hateful comments. Worse, they weren't racist comments made after getting pulled over for being drunk, they were comments made DURING his job. He actually said that **** DIRECTLY to his audience WHILE he was performing. It's not even just that Michael Richards is a racist. It's that people were paying him money to see him do a comedy act, and then end up paying him money to STOP performing a comedy act and instead go off on an angry hateful anti-black tirade.

So yeah...Seinfeld is still funny. And yeah...I don't hate the guy and would probably watch him again as long as he were starring in something that I'm interested in. But there's no defense for the dude. None whatsoever.

I know, and even I admitted that what I thought he did was crossing the line. But thats no reason to stop watching the show, because one character does something stupid. Did Jerry, George Elaine or even Newman do anything to kill the show? No.
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#162 pseudodog07
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[QUOTE="pseudodog07"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

I don't have to defend him, because his free speech was never violated. Again, you simply don't understand free speech. I'll bet that you also think that your free speech is being violated when Gamespot moderates you for Terms of Use violations.

MrGeezer

Yes, it is. I'm talking about the right to truely speak freely, without moderation or mobs. You are just spewing some form of legaleaze, in an effort to curtail free speech in general. Sad, you think you are a free speech advocate. No way, buddy.

And that's how free speech WORKS. Because in order to protect Michael Richards or Mel Gibson or Paris Hilton or President Bush from criticism, you have to REMOVE people's ability to freely criticise them.

So I'd like you to explain to ME how that works. How is it that Michael Richards should be able to publicly make racist comments against blacks, yet the people hearing those comments can't make comments against Michael Richards? Explain to me HOW you can be FOR free speech when you think that his employer shouldn't have the free speech to fire Michael Richards' ass when he says things that hurt their reputation.

Again, free speech applies to EVERYONE. I'm curious as to what justification YOU have for the notion that free speech should only apply to racists.

Nice hypotheticals, meaning nothing. Michael Richards is the one who's freedom (meaning free to be dumb) speech is under attack here. If there was an equally large group saying his critics must be silenced, I would defend their right to speak. That doesn't exist, so you are just going in circles and only trying to limit the freedom to speak whatever zany thing may be on ones mind or an over the top joke.
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#163 YouAmStupid
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I still watch it, but for a while after the incident I regretted having named my dog Kramer.
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#164 dave123321
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="pseudodog07"]He's not racist, he just was excercising his free speech. Sad, some of you are horrified by such a thing as free speech, or will only accept that form of talk from rappers.pseudodog07

Don't even try the "free speech" thing. Free speech is what kept him from getting ARRESTED. But the comedy club exercised THEIR free speech by banning him, and the media exercised their free speech by tearing the guy apart. If RICHARDS had such a problem with other people exercising THEIR free speech as a reaction to HIS free speech, then he shouldn't have said what he said.

I think you just made my point. You hate free speech, unless it comes from a rappers mouth.

Perhaps you should learn more about free speech because it seems like you have a false idea of what exactly it means and implies.
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#165 pseudodog07
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[QUOTE="pseudodog07"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

Don't even try the "free speech" thing. Free speech is what kept him from getting ARRESTED. But the comedy club exercised THEIR free speech by banning him, and the media exercised their free speech by tearing the guy apart. If RICHARDS had such a problem with other people exercising THEIR free speech as a reaction to HIS free speech, then he shouldn't have said what he said.

dave123321
I think you just made my point. You hate free speech, unless it comes from a rappers mouth.

Perhaps you should learn more about free speech because it seems like you have a false idea of what exactly it means and implies.

I should be using the term freedom to speak, rather than freedom of speech. Because, some of you think you need a law degree to know what you can or can't say before you say it. Sheessh.
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[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="pseudodog07"] I think you just made my point. You hate free speech, unless it comes from a rappers mouth.pseudodog07
Perhaps you should learn more about free speech because it seems like you have a false idea of what exactly it means and implies.

I should be using the term freedom to speak, rather than freedom of speech. Because, some of you think you need a law degree to know what you can or can't say before you say it. Sheessh.

You have the freedom to speak , just do not expect people to not take issue with the things that you say.
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#167 pseudodog07
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[QUOTE="pseudodog07"][QUOTE="dave123321"] Perhaps you should learn more about free speech because it seems like you have a false idea of what exactly it means and implies.dave123321
I should be using the term freedom to speak, rather than freedom of speech. Because, some of you think you need a law degree to know what you can or can't say before you say it. Sheessh.

You have the freedom to speak , just do not expect people to not take issue with the things that you say.

Fine, let the PC media and yourself take issue. But, also do it for the flaming hate baiters, like Carlos Mencia or the rappers, not just with Michael Richards going off for once.
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Yeah, I don't care. I love that show.
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I don't watch Seinfeld, but this wouldn't deter me. So what if Kramer's a rascist? If he's funny, laugh. It doesn't mean you have to like him or think he's a good person. I still love Chinatown even though Polanski's a paedophile. Doesn't stop it being a great film.
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[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"]

Do you also boycott all of Mel Gibson's films?

mysterylobster

Those that he appears in, yes. I still watch The Passion.

Thats just dumb

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this is such old news: what richards said was NOT protected by freedom of speech because it is what is classified as "fighting words" (legally not protected speech) richards is not a racist for an isolated incident, no more than you are an unsafe driver for being in one accident
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this is such old news: what richards said was NOT protected by freedom of speech because it is what is classified as "fighting words" (legally not protected speech) richards is not a racist for an isolated incident, no more than you are an unsafe driver for being in one accidentAncientNecro
What about the things rappers say? How does that fall in your legaleeze way of looking at things?
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#173 I_pWnzz_YoU
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What I don't get is. When Richards was on Letterman via satellite. Somewhere near the beginning of his apology the audience started to laugh. Were they high or something? I mean, Richards is trying to make things right and apologize for what he did, and those idiots are laughing?

EDIT- 1:20-1:25, 1:30-1:38 and 1:50-1:54. Jerry even tells them to stop laughing at some point. Also, I think it's cool of Jerry to stick by Richards at his lowest point.

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I don't watch Seinfeld anyway, but if I was a fan, my perspective of the show wouldn't change. A celebrity's flaws and background shouldn't affect my enjoyment of a fictional project. Heck, I'm not going to judge Lyrnyrd Skynyrd for using the Confederate flag.
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I've never thought that Seinfeld was funny, but even then, I wouldn't not watch House if Hugh Laurie were a "racist."
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What I don't get is. When Richards was on Letterman via satellite. Somewhere near the beginning of his apology the audience started to laugh. Were they high or something? I mean, Richards is trying to make things right and apologize for what he did, and those idiots are laughing?

EDIT- 1:20-1:25, 1:30-1:38 and 1:50-1:54. Jerry even tells them to stop laughing at some point. Also, I think it's cool of Jerry to stick by Richards at his lowest point.

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I remember that, that whole event was pretty disturbing.
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#177 I_pWnzz_YoU
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I've never thought that Seinfeld was funny, but even then, I wouldn't not watch House if Hugh Laurie were a "racist."cell_dweller
House is like crack, only cheaper :D
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It's still a decent show.
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yeah i still watch Seinfeld
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[QUOTE="AncientNecro"]this is such old news: what richards said was NOT protected by freedom of speech because it is what is classified as "fighting words" (legally not protected speech) richards is not a racist for an isolated incident, no more than you are an unsafe driver for being in one accident

You would be an unsafe driver if you crashed the car on purpose.
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#181 deactivated-5a79221380856
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I honestly consider not watching 24 after Kiefer Sutherland got a DUI last year. I'm considering whether or not that was a smart move considering how bland this season's been.
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the character or the actor? if the character is considered racist then it kind of matters. but it doesnt stop me from watching it. seinfeld is hilarious.
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#183 brickdoctor
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Yes

And Kramer showed no signs of being racist during the TV series.

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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="pseudodog07"] Yes, it is. I'm talking about the right to truely speak freely, without moderation or mobs. You are just spewing some form of legaleaze, in an effort to curtail free speech in general. Sad, you think you are a free speech advocate. No way, buddy.pseudodog07

And that's how free speech WORKS. Because in order to protect Michael Richards or Mel Gibson or Paris Hilton or President Bush from criticism, you have to REMOVE people's ability to freely criticise them.

So I'd like you to explain to ME how that works. How is it that Michael Richards should be able to publicly make racist comments against blacks, yet the people hearing those comments can't make comments against Michael Richards? Explain to me HOW you can be FOR free speech when you think that his employer shouldn't have the free speech to fire Michael Richards' ass when he says things that hurt their reputation.

Again, free speech applies to EVERYONE. I'm curious as to what justification YOU have for the notion that free speech should only apply to racists.

Nice hypotheticals, meaning nothing. Michael Richards is the one who's freedom (meaning free to be dumb) speech is under attack here. If there was an equally large group saying his critics must be silenced, I would defend their right to speak. That doesn't exist, so you are just going in circles and only trying to limit the freedom to speak whatever zany thing may be on ones mind or an over the top joke.

Nice job completely avoiding the question.

If his "attackers" were nothing but people voicing their opinions, then you are suggesting that they should NOT be able to voice their opinions. So HOW is that consistent with your claim that the media shouldn't have been able to attack him?

You're saying that he should be able to say whatever he wants without losing his job. HOW is that consistent with his EMPLOYER'S free speech rights?

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#185 Morphic
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I watch it. Your not supporting racism by watching seinfeld. And kramer isn't michael richards. Kramer is a character. That is all. You can like Kramer and still not be all too happy with the michael richards incident.
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#186 I_pWnzz_YoU
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I honestly consider not watching 24 after Kiefer Sutherland got a DUI last year. I'm considering whether or not that was a smart move considering how bland this season's been.Genetic_Code
O...M...G, would you actually stop watching 24 after that? You'd consider giving up one of the greatest shows on TV because the Kiefer just wanted to have some fun?
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="pseudodog07"] I think you just made my point. You hate free speech, unless it comes from a rappers mouth.pseudodog07

Oh quite the contrary. Between you and I, I'm the only one actually DEFENDING free speech.

You apparently don't know how free speech works. Free speech does NOT mean that no one can criticize a a white guy for being racist.

You seem to be advocating the drastic measures you cited, so where's your free speech advocation? By free speech I mean the right to speak freelly or stupidly as you want to without such a mob, big brother like mentality afterwards.

Let me get this straight. You're defending Richards because of free speech, but you don't think it's right for people to speak out against him. What about their free speech :??

Why when you're called on this do you resort to "What about teh rappers"?

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[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"]I honestly consider not watching 24 after Kiefer Sutherland got a DUI last year. I'm considering whether or not that was a smart move considering how bland this season's been.I_pWnzz_YoU
O...M...G, would you actually stop watching 24 after that? You'd consider giving up one of the greatest shows on TV because the Kiefer just wanted to have some fun?

Although I wouldn't stop watching a show I liked because of the characters actual life, please tell me you don't think drunk drivers are just trying to have some fun.

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#189 TM_Darkside
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Seinfeld is still the greatest show of all time and Michael Richards is still the ****ing man.
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#190 I_pWnzz_YoU
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[QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"][QUOTE="Genetic_Code"]I honestly consider not watching 24 after Kiefer Sutherland got a DUI last year. I'm considering whether or not that was a smart move considering how bland this season's been.ownage_denied

O...M...G, would you actually stop watching 24 after that? You'd consider giving up one of the greatest shows on TV because the Kiefer just wanted to have some fun?

Although I wouldn't stop watching a show I liked because of the characters actual life, please tell me you don't think drunk drivers are just trying to have some fun.

What I meant was, he got drunk (probably with some friends) because he wanted to have a good time. And we all know alcohol clouds your judgement. So he was drinking to have fun, but he was driving because he couldn't think straight.
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#191 ownage_denied
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[QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

[QUOTE="I_pWnzz_YoU"] O...M...G, would you actually stop watching 24 after that? You'd consider giving up one of the greatest shows on TV because the Kiefer just wanted to have some fun?I_pWnzz_YoU

Although I wouldn't stop watching a show I liked because of the characters actual life, please tell me you don't think drunk drivers are just trying to have some fun.

What I meant was, he got drunk (probably with some friends) because he wanted to have a good time. And we all know alcohol clouds your judgement. So he was drinking to have fun, but he was driving because he couldn't think straight.

Ah... okay, I agree with that.

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Yup
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#194 pseudodog07
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[QUOTE="ownage_denied"][QUOTE="pseudodog07"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

Oh quite the contrary. Between you and I, I'm the only one actually DEFENDING free speech.

You apparently don't know how free speech works. Free speech does NOT mean that no one can criticize a a white guy for being racist.

You seem to be advocating the drastic measures you cited, so where's your free speech advocation? By free speech I mean the right to speak freelly or stupidly as you want to without such a mob, big brother like mentality afterwards.

Let me get this straight. You're defending Richards because of free speech, but you don't think it's right for people to speak out against him. What about their free speech :??

Why when you're called on this do you resort to "What about teh rappers"?

How many rappers have made money saying "KILL DIE KILL!!!!", 100s...1000s? What Michael Richards said is a drop in the bucket compared to that horror in media. Also, I stated if people wouldn't let his critics speak, I would stand up for them too.
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#195 antiredcap
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Damn right, I love Seinfeld
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#196 kdsns
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I wouldn't watch that show even before that guy was a rascist. Jerry Seinfeld just annoys me.
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#197 PS2_ROCKS
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Whats the big deal? He's an actor in Seinfeld, not himself...who cares?
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#199 themagicbum9720
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i just watched it at 11 tongiht.