Do you support *** marriage?

[QUOTE="PickGlove243"]

What are Ghey people??

LJS9502_basic

From the planet Ghey in the sixth universe beyond the sun. They come in peace.

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Yes, of course I had to search google for them. And even though many lawsuits would lose when coming against a pastor, there's still the legal fees and court costs to pay, which can be a fortune for a small church pastor.

Yes, of course I had to search google for them. And even though many lawsuits would lose when coming against a pastor, there's still the legal fees and court costs to pay, which can be a fortune for a small church pastor.

guynamedbilly

None of which is pertinent.....and you know if you lose a case you have to pay the court costs and in some cases the legal fees of the other party?

[QUOTE="guynamedbilly"]

Yes, of course I had to search google for them. And even though many lawsuits would lose when coming against a pastor, there's still the legal fees and court costs to pay, which can be a fortune for a small church pastor.

LJS9502_basic

None of which is pertinent.....and you know if you lose a case you have to pay the court costs and in some cases the legal fees of the other party?

Some being the key word.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="guynamedbilly"]

Yes, of course I had to search google for them. And even though many lawsuits would lose when coming against a pastor, there's still the legal fees and court costs to pay, which can be a fortune for a small church pastor.

guynamedbilly

None of which is pertinent.....and you know if you lose a case you have to pay the court costs and in some cases the legal fees of the other party?

Some being the key word.

A case without merit....always. And since you can't force the pastor to marry you.....it's without merit. Separation of church and state works both ways. The state can't run the church.;)

I dont like gay marriage, but I dont think we should legislate against it. as voltaire said "I disagree with what you are saying, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it"

and yes, the bible does actually talk about it for people who no nothing of gods word

Leviticus 18:22 "do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman. that is detestable"

I dont like gay marriage, but I dont think we should legislate against it. as voltaire said "I disagree with what you are saying, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it"

and yes, the bible does actually talk about it for people who no nothing of gods word

Leviticus 18:22 "do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman. that is detestable"

mig_killer2

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

I dont like gay marriage, but I dont think we should legislate against it. as voltaire said "I disagree with what you are saying, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it"

and yes, the bible does actually talk about it for people who no nothing of gods word

Leviticus 18:22 "do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman. that is detestable"

MattUD1

[QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

I dont like gay marriage, but I dont think we should legislate against it. as voltaire said "I disagree with what you are saying, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it"

and yes, the bible does actually talk about it for people who no nothing of gods word

Leviticus 18:22 "do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman. that is detestable"

swizz-the-gamer

[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="MattUD1"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"]

I dont like gay marriage, but I dont think we should legislate against it. as voltaire said "I disagree with what you are saying, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it"

and yes, the bible does actually talk about it for people who no nothing of gods word

Leviticus 18:22 "do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman. that is detestable"

mig_killer2

Well, in defence of the religious, if gay marriage was supported by the rest of the country and not supported by members of the religious community, they would eventually be sued or jailed for discrimination.

I mean, what do you think would happen if a pastor said that he would never marry non-caucasion couples... If he wasn't murdered, it would be a very difficult life.

guynamedbilly

[QUOTE="PickGlove243"]

What are Ghey people??

LJS9502_basic

From the planet Ghey in the sixth universe beyond the sun. They come in peace.

Sounds like a nice place.

I support a partnership. Marriage is an oath under God. And according to the Bible gay marriage shouldnt be. Sooo partnership not marriage. its that simple.Deathxcore

My thoughts exactly

so, only a man and a woman can get married? other wise, it's against god's wish? :| way to hide behind religion to prove your point.Sonick54

i'm not hiding behind anyhtin, thats a fact, go look it up, do your research,

Why shouldnt they have them? And why cant they make their private lives known to others just because some people live in the past?Bourbons3

cos when u make ur private life public, its no longer private, its like smoking, if you smoke a lone in ur house, only u are affected, if you smoke on a crowded bus, other people are affected also.

a man and a woman kissing on a bus, some people are ok with seeing that, other people may tell them to get a room any reaction is appropriate because they are making it public business

gay people arent special, so if they kiss in public, they make their private life public business and as such be prepared to be judged by the public, if you don't like be judged by the public then keep ur business private

[QUOTE="Deathxcore"]I support a partnership. Marriage is an oath under God. And according to the Bible gay marriage shouldnt be. Sooo partnership not marriage. its that simple.krazyorange

My thoughts exactly

What about those that don't follow the biblical God? Should they not get married? How about non-believers? Then there's the business of all this "bible is against it" nonsense.

The bible also mentions a large number of laws, am I to understand that everyone here defending the biblical view is wearing a Peyot like a Hasidic Jew as commanded by the bible? Cause if someone is going to be a fundamentalist then there shouldn't be any cherry-picking.

If they want to get married, it's fine with me. It's not like I'll lose any sleep knowing that gay people are getting married.THE_DRUGGIE

Exactly, if you object to or hold discriminatory beliefs about homosexuals then as long as you personally aren't gay what do you care about others.

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]If they want to get married, it's fine with me. It's not like I'll lose any sleep knowing that gay people are getting married.mariohughes87

Exactly, if you object to or hold discriminatory beliefs about homosexuals then as long as you personally aren't gay what do you care about others.

I wonder why homophobia even exists in this era...Boredom, maybe?

(I am Circus888)

Well, I just returned from a long days work, and I have been reading some of your messages. Most have been supporting of gay marriage, and that is great. Others, however, still don't have the mental capacity yet to understand some of the issues. So, I'll address some of the things that have been brought up in this topic:

"It's a Christian Tradition!: No. It's not. And, marriage with the government has nothing to do with religion. *VOID*

"Why do they want to get married ANYWAY?! What is all the fuss about?!": We want equal rights just like every other American. It is important for me, and other gay people alike to be treated equally. As of right now, there aren't any of the literally 1,000+ important benefits available for gay couples. If our boyfriends or girlfriends get extremely sick in the Hospital, and it's family only, we may be denied to see them. We can't really take off of work to take care of a sick boyfriend or girlfriend and get other benefits like that since we aren't, and can't be "Married". Mainly, though, it proves that we have been recognized... we are cared about, and we are official.

"I don't support it because I believe in christianity": Well, that's nice. However, you shouldn't be forcing your religious believes down other's throats. We aren't do that to you. You aren't gay and don't want to be married to a member of the same sex? Great! We are gay and we do want to be married to a member of the same sex!

(Very ridiculous uneducated remark below... you have been warned...)

"Blah blah blah blah gays spread aids and give them to kids... rape will be legal next, right?!": Yeah... Ummm... no. Gays aren't about raping. That is just a horrible Conservative Redneck Christian extreme Conservative hatred stereotype. Some gays are bad and rape people.... some straights are bad and rape people. It works both ways. Also, when people are talking about gays they tend to only think about the sexual aspect, and just completely ignore that gays have actual, real relationships.

Watch this amazing video on homosexuality:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPzso1OOTPM&NR

He does an awesome job explaining a lot of concerns.

Thanks again for your awesome posts! You rock!

(I am Circus888)

Well, I just returned from a long days work, and I have been reading some of your messages. Most have been supporting of gay marriage, and that is great. Others, however, still don't have the mental capacity yet to understand some of the issues. So, I'll address some of the things that have been brought up in this topic:

"It's a Christian Tradition!: No. It's not. And, marriage with the government has nothing to do with religion. *VOID*

"Why do they want to get married ANYWAY?! What is all the fuss about?!": We want equal rights just like every other American. It is important for me, and other gay people alike to be treated equally. As of right now, there aren't any of the literally 1,000+ important benefits available for gay couples. If our boyfriends or girlfriends get extremely sick in the Hospital, and it's family only, we may be denied to see them. We can't really take off of work to take care of a sick boyfriend or girlfriend and get other benefits like that since we aren't, and can't be "Married". Mainly, though, it proves that we have been recognized... we are cared about, and we are official.

"I don't support it because I believe in christianity": Well, that's nice. However, you shouldn't be forcing your religious believes down other's throats. We aren't do that to you. You aren't gay and don't want to be married to a member of the same sex? Great! We are gay and we do want to be married to a member of the same sex!

(Very ridiculous uneducated remark below... you have been warned...)

"Blah blah blah blah gays spread aids and give them to kids... rape will be legal next, right?!": Yeah... Ummm... no. Gays aren't about raping. That is just a horrible Conservative Redneck Christian extreme Conservative hatred stereotype. Some gays are bad and rape people.... some straights are bad and rape people. It works both ways. Also, when people are talking about gays they tend to only think about the sexual aspect, and just completely ignore that gays have actual, real relationships.

Watch this amazing video on homosexuality:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPzso1OOTPM&NR

He does an awesome job explaining a lot of concerns.

Thanks again for your awesome posts! You rock!

Capn-Circus

So, because people dont like the idea of gay people getting married, they are forcing their beliefs down your throat? BTW, the bible does talk about homosexuality. the book of leviticus says "a manshould not lie with a man as hewould would lie with a woman. that is destestable". also, god gave adam eve as a wife, not steve as a wife.

It's stupid how religion interferes in this country.X360PS3AMD05

Yes. It is a very unfortunate part of this great country. For some reason this country stands for equality, freedom of speech, and especially diversity. However, it seems like there are too many Christian religious extremists in our country that contradict the core values of this country. Many don't like diversity. They actually think and want this country to be a white, christian nation.... directly contradicting America's original values.

It upsets me that we can't all just get along. It upsets me that there are people who want to dictate and interfere with other's lives. =/

"Marriage" should only be between a man and a woman. However, there should be a type of legal partnership created for homosexual men and women; they deserve their rights, why not give it to them? :) They're no different, they just happen to like their own sex. tomxizor

Um..whats the basis of that statement, or is it just your opinion?

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]It's stupid how religion interferes in this country.Capn-Circus

Yes. It is a very unfortunate part of this great country. For some reason this country stands for equality, freedom of speech, and especially diversity. However, it seems like there are too many Christian religious extremists in our country that contradict the core values of this country. Many don't like diversity. They actually think and want this country to be a white, christian nation.... directly contradicting America's original values.

It upsets me that we can't all just get along. It upsets me that there are people who want to dictate and interfere with other's lives. =/

[QUOTE="Capn-Circus"]

(I am Circus888)

Well, I just returned from a long days work, and I have been reading some of your messages. Most have been supporting of gay marriage, and that is great. Others, however, still don't have the mental capacity yet to understand some of the issues. So, I'll address some of the things that have been brought up in this topic:

"It's a Christian Tradition!:No. It's not. And, marriage with the government has nothing to do with religion. *VOID*

"Why do they want to get married ANYWAY?! What is all the fuss about?!":We want equal rights just like every other American. It is important for me, and other gay people alike to be treated equally. As of right now, there aren't any of the literally 1,000+ important benefits available for gay couples. If our boyfriends or girlfriends get extremely sick in the Hospital, and it's family only, we may be denied to see them. We can't really take off of work to take care of a sick boyfriend or girlfriend and get other benefits like that since we aren't, and can't be "Married". Mainly, though, it proves that we have been recognized... we are cared about, and we are official.

"I don't support it because I believe in christianity":Well, that's nice. However, you shouldn't be forcing your religious believes down other's throats. We aren't do that to you. You aren't gay and don't want to be married to a member of the same sex? Great! We are gay and we do want to be married to a member of the same sex!

(Very ridiculous uneducated remark below... you have been warned...)

"Blah blah blah blah gays spread aids and give them to kids... rape will be legal next, right?!": Yeah... Ummm... no. Gays aren't about raping. That is just a horrible Conservative Redneck Christian extreme Conservative hatred stereotype. Some gays are bad and rape people.... some straights are bad and rape people. It works both ways. Also, when people are talking about gays they tend to only think about the sexual aspect, and just completely ignore that gays have actual, real relationships.

Watch this amazing video on homosexuality:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPzso1OOTPM&NR

He does an awesome job explaining a lot of concerns.

Thanks again for your awesome posts! You rock!

mig_killer2

So, because people dont like the idea of gay people getting married, they are forcing their beliefs down your throat? BTW, the bible does talk about homosexuality. the book of leviticus says "a manshould not lie with a man as hewould would lie with a woman. that is destestable". also, god gave adam eve as a wife, not steve as a wife.

I'm not counting religion to be a legitimate reason.

[QUOTE="mariohughes87"]

[QUOTE="THE_DRUGGIE"]If they want to get married, it's fine with me. It's not like I'll lose any sleep knowing that gay people are getting married.THE_DRUGGIE

Exactly, if you object to or hold discriminatory beliefs about homosexuals then as long as you personally aren't gay what do you care about others.

I wonder why homophobia even exists in this era...Boredom, maybe?

I woner why homosexuality exists in this era...Boredom maybe?

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Capn-Circus"]

(I am Circus888)

Well, I just returned from a long days work, and I have been reading some of your messages. Most have been supporting of gay marriage, and that is great. Others, however, still don't have the mental capacity yet to understand some of the issues. So, I'll address some of the things that have been brought up in this topic:

"It's a Christian Tradition!:No. It's not. And, marriage with the government has nothing to do with religion. *VOID*

"Why do they want to get married ANYWAY?! What is all the fuss about?!":We want equal rights just like every other American. It is important for me, and other gay people alike to be treated equally. As of right now, there aren't any of the literally 1,000+ important benefits available for gay couples. If our boyfriends or girlfriends get extremely sick in the Hospital, and it's family only, we may be denied to see them. We can't really take off of work to take care of a sick boyfriend or girlfriend and get other benefits like that since we aren't, and can't be "Married". Mainly, though, it proves that we have been recognized... we are cared about, and we are official.

"I don't support it because I believe in christianity":Well, that's nice. However, you shouldn't be forcing your religious believes down other's throats. We aren't do that to you. You aren't gay and don't want to be married to a member of the same sex? Great! We are gay and we do want to be married to a member of the same sex!

(Very ridiculous uneducated remark below... you have been warned...)

"Blah blah blah blah gays spread aids and give them to kids... rape will be legal next, right?!": Yeah... Ummm... no. Gays aren't about raping. That is just a horrible Conservative Redneck Christian extreme Conservative hatred stereotype. Some gays are bad and rape people.... some straights are bad and rape people. It works both ways. Also, when people are talking about gays they tend to only think about the sexual aspect, and just completely ignore that gays have actual, real relationships.

Watch this amazing video on homosexuality:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPzso1OOTPM&NR

He does an awesome job explaining a lot of concerns.

Thanks again for your awesome posts! You rock!

ShuLordLiuPei

So, because people dont like the idea of gay people getting married, they are forcing their beliefs down your throat? BTW, the bible does talk about homosexuality. the book of leviticus says "a manshould not lie with a man as hewould would lie with a woman. that is destestable". also, god gave adam eve as a wife, not steve as a wife.

I'm not counting religion to be a legitimate reason.

oh, and if you dont think religion is not a legitimate reason to think gays getting married is wrong, thats your problem, dont make it my problem

[QUOTE="ShuLordLiuPei"][QUOTE="mig_killer2"][QUOTE="Capn-Circus"]

(I am Circus888)

Well, I just returned from a long days work, and I have been reading some of your messages. Most have been supporting of gay marriage, and that is great. Others, however, still don't have the mental capacity yet to understand some of the issues. So, I'll address some of the things that have been brought up in this topic:

"It's a Christian Tradition!:No. It's not. And, marriage with the government has nothing to do with religion. *VOID*

"Why do they want to get married ANYWAY?! What is all the fuss about?!":We want equal rights just like every other American. It is important for me, and other gay people alike to be treated equally. As of right now, there aren't any of the literally 1,000+ important benefits available for gay couples. If our boyfriends or girlfriends get extremely sick in the Hospital, and it's family only, we may be denied to see them. We can't really take off of work to take care of a sick boyfriend or girlfriend and get other benefits like that since we aren't, and can't be "Married". Mainly, though, it proves that we have been recognized... we are cared about, and we are official.

"I don't support it because I believe in christianity":Well, that's nice. However, you shouldn't be forcing your religious believes down other's throats. We aren't do that to you. You aren't gay and don't want to be married to a member of the same sex? Great! We are gay and we do want to be married to a member of the same sex!

(Very ridiculous uneducated remark below... you have been warned...)

"Blah blah blah blah gays spread aids and give them to kids... rape will be legal next, right?!": Yeah... Ummm... no. Gays aren't about raping. That is just a horrible Conservative Redneck Christian extreme Conservative hatred stereotype. Some gays are bad and rape people.... some straights are bad and rape people. It works both ways. Also, when people are talking about gays they tend to only think about the sexual aspect, and just completely ignore that gays have actual, real relationships.

Watch this amazing video on homosexuality:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPzso1OOTPM&NR

He does an awesome job explaining a lot of concerns.

Thanks again for your awesome posts! You rock!

mig_killer2

So, because people dont like the idea of gay people getting married, they are forcing their beliefs down your throat? BTW, the bible does talk about homosexuality. the book of leviticus says "a manshould not lie with a man as hewould would lie with a woman. that is destestable". also, god gave adam eve as a wife, not steve as a wife.

I'm not counting religion to be a legitimate reason.

oh, and if you dont think religion is not a legitimate reason to think gays getting married is wrong, thats your problem, dont make it my problem

Giving them marriage rights is like rewarding them for spawning AIDS.

But Marriage is a Christian tradition, and an oath under God.

So it will always be called marriage. Since it isnt really so much that the government hates gays its just that Churches wont wed a gay marriage either. Its like wedding two muslims in a jewish cynagogue. They arent on the same page to begin with.

Deathxcore

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_marriage#Traditional_marriage_rituals

Marriage is now a Chinese tradition.

I support gay marriage. Anyone should be able to form a union for a relationship however they want to and get the same legal rights & benefits that this entails. There is only one thing that I think should not be allowed though...

Churches should NOT be forced to perform gay marriages. I think that the separation of church and state needs to go both ways (to a reasonable point, of course) and this is an issue that if churches don't want to perform or recognize, then they shouldn't be forced to. There are plenty of other ways to form what is essentially, just a contract between two people. From the legal perspective, that's all it really is.

Marriage existed long before Christianity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_marriage#Traditional_marriage_rituals

Marriage is now a Chinese tradition.

ShuLordLiuPei

I believe marriage was around longer than that however....though the form was obviously different.

the family unit is very important to society and procreation of the human race.

oh, and if you dont think religion is not a legitimate reason to think gays getting married is wrong, thats your problem, dont make it my problem

mig_killer2

Will allowing gay marriage destroy the family unit? No.

[QUOTE="Capn-Circus"]

(I am Circus888)

Well, I just returned from a long days work, and I have been reading some of your messages. Most have been supporting of gay marriage, and that is great. Others, however, still don't have the mental capacity yet to understand some of the issues. So, I'll address some of the things that have been brought up in this topic:

"It's a Christian Tradition!: No. It's not. And, marriage with the government has nothing to do with religion. *VOID*

"Why do they want to get married ANYWAY?! What is all the fuss about?!": We want equal rights just like every other American. It is important for me, and other gay people alike to be treated equally. As of right now, there aren't any of the literally 1,000+ important benefits available for gay couples. If our boyfriends or girlfriends get extremely sick in the Hospital, and it's family only, we may be denied to see them. We can't really take off of work to take care of a sick boyfriend or girlfriend and get other benefits like that since we aren't, and can't be "Married". Mainly, though, it proves that we have been recognized... we are cared about, and we are official.

"I don't support it because I believe in christianity": Well, that's nice. However, you shouldn't be forcing your religious believes down other's throats. We aren't do that to you. You aren't gay and don't want to be married to a member of the same sex? Great! We are gay and we do want to be married to a member of the same sex!

(Very ridiculous uneducated remark below... you have been warned...)

"Blah blah blah blah gays spread aids and give them to kids... rape will be legal next, right?!": Yeah... Ummm... no. Gays aren't about raping. That is just a horrible Conservative Redneck Christian extreme Conservative hatred stereotype. Some gays are bad and rape people.... some straights are bad and rape people. It works both ways. Also, when people are talking about gays they tend to only think about the sexual aspect, and just completely ignore that gays have actual, real relationships.

Watch this amazing video on homosexuality:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPzso1OOTPM&NR

He does an awesome job explaining a lot of concerns.

Thanks again for your awesome posts! You rock!

mig_killer2

So, because people dont like the idea of gay people getting married, they are forcing their beliefs down your throat? BTW, the bible does talk about homosexuality. the book of leviticus says "a manshould not lie with a man as hewould would lie with a woman. that is destestable". also, god gave adam eve as a wife, not steve as a wife.

[QUOTE="Deathxcore"]

But Marriage is a Christian tradition, and an oath under God.

So it will always be called marriage. Since it isnt really so much that the government hates gays its just that Churches wont wed a gay marriage either. Its like wedding two muslims in a jewish cynagogue. They arent on the same page to begin with.

ShuLordLiuPei

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_marriage#Traditional_marriage_rituals

Marriage is now a Chinese tradition.

[QUOTE="ShuLordLiuPei"][QUOTE="Deathxcore"]

But Marriage is a Christian tradition, and an oath under God.

So it will always be called marriage. Since it isnt really so much that the government hates gays its just that Churches wont wed a gay marriage either. Its like wedding two muslims in a jewish cynagogue. They arent on the same page to begin with.

LJS9502_basic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_marriage#Traditional_marriage_rituals

Marriage is now a Chinese tradition.

[/QUOTE

I believe marriage was around longer than that however.

I was merely joking, anyway.

[QUOTE="mig_killer2"]the family unit is very important to society and procreation of the human race.

oh, and if you dont think religion is not a legitimate reason to think gays getting married is wrong, thats your problem, dont make it my problem

ShuLordLiuPei

Will allowing gay marriage destroy the family unit? No.

But Marriage is a Christian tradition, and an oath under God.

So it will always be called marriage. Since it isnt really so much that the government hates gays its just that Churches wont wed a gay marriage either. Its like wedding two muslims in a jewish cynagogue. They arent on the same page to begin with.

Deathxcore

I don't know if anyone else said this yet but you can marry without "an oath under god"

[QUOTE="ShuLordLiuPei"][QUOTE="Deathxcore"]

But Marriage is a Christian tradition, and an oath under God.

So it will always be called marriage. Since it isnt really so much that the government hates gays its just that Churches wont wed a gay marriage either. Its like wedding two muslims in a jewish cynagogue. They arent on the same page to begin with.

mig_killer2

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_marriage#Traditional_marriage_rituals

Marriage is now a Chinese tradition.

Again, (even though this isn't an evolution vs. creation thread) not everyone believes God made Adam and Eve. Again, seperation of churchand state.