Do you think JFK was killed by 1 or 2 people?

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#1 reach3
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I got to admit, there was always something fishy about the whole thing. Oswald was untrained and hit the MOVING president twice (even with trees obtructing his view even more). Even trained miltary find this ridiculously hard to pull off, and Oswald wasnt trained at all.

Not to mention, Oswald was assasinated right after he said he was a patsy. I believe someone wanted to shut him up.

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I think he was killed by an organization.

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#6 True_Chaos_UK
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pfft anyone who knows about history knows the Comedian fired the third shot.

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#7 deactivated-590595a6292ce
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Oswald was a U.S Marine...

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#8 Wolls
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I heard a theory about these types of accusations and conspiracy theories once which said that the reason these theories develop is because people are not used to seeing these larger than life figures etc. being taken down by something so small. That someone as important and charismatic as JFK could never be killed by just a man, it has to be something much more clever and sinister than that. Anyway I thought that was an interesting point... and for the record I think it was just a man who shot another man and killed him.
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#9 KnightSkull
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I killed him:twisted:

With my mind.

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#10 LJS9502_basic
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I think it was a bit more complicated than one individual.....
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#11 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Wolls"]I heard a theory about these types of accusations and conspiracy theories once which said that the reason these theories develop is because people are not used to seeing these larger than life figures etc. being taken down by something so small. That someone as important and charismatic as JFK could never be killed by just a man, it has to be something much more clever and sinister than that. Anyway I thought that was an interesting point... and for the record I think it was just a man who shot another man and killed him.

On the other hand people don't want to believe that organizations can exist that change the course of history so it's more interesting to believe one crazy individual acted alone.....think about it. And I'm not referring specifically to this case. Just your theory above....
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#12 Wolls
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Wolls"]I heard a theory about these types of accusations and conspiracy theories once which said that the reason these theories develop is because people are not used to seeing these larger than life figures etc. being taken down by something so small. That someone as important and charismatic as JFK could never be killed by just a man, it has to be something much more clever and sinister than that. Anyway I thought that was an interesting point... and for the record I think it was just a man who shot another man and killed him.

On the other hand people don't want to believe that organizations can exist that change the course of history so it's more interesting to believe one crazy individual acted alone.....think about it. And I'm not referring specifically to this case. Just your theory above....

Yes of course that is the case as well, in fact we even has cases in fairly recent history that show that governments and organizations can act nefariously against the public interest and without the public knowing about it. Its a pretty interesting topic really.
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#13 Lord_Daemon
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Just the one person as nothing I've seen has demonstrated to my satisfaction that it wasn't...although off the top of my head I certainly don't rule out the idea of Oswald being influenced to act in such a manner by people with a specific agenda as I haven't ever really been interested enough to dig into the whole thing beyond the actual event.

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#14 LJS9502_basic
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Just the one person as nothing I've seen has demonstrated to my satisfaction that it wasn't...although off the top of my head I certainly don't rule out the idea of Oswald being influenced to act in such a manner by people with a specific agenda as I haven't ever really been interested enough to dig into the whole thing beyond the actual event.

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I got to admit, there was always something fishy about the whole thing. Oswald was untrained and hit the MOVING president twice (even with trees obtructing his view even more). Even trained miltary find this ridiculously hard to pull off, and Oswald wasnt trained at all.

Not to mention, Oswald was assasinated right after he said he was a patsy. I believe someone wanted to shut him up.

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Uhhhh, Oswald was trained military.

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#16 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="reach3"]

I got to admit, there was always something fishy about the whole thing. Oswald was untrained and hit the MOVING president twice (even with trees obtructing his view even more). Even trained miltary find this ridiculously hard to pull off, and Oswald wasnt trained at all.

Not to mention, Oswald was assasinated right after he said he was a patsy. I believe someone wanted to shut him up.

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Uhhhh, Oswald was trained military.

Wasn't very good though.....according to reports. Not like he'd be a sniper scout or anything....
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#17 stuff238
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JFK wasnt killed. That was a double. He faked his own death.
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#18 LJS9502_basic
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JFK wasnt killed. That was a double. He faked his own death.stuff238
So he could hang out with Elvis and Tupac?
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[QUOTE="stuff238"]JFK wasnt killed. That was a double. He faked his own death.LJS9502_basic
So he could hang out with Elvis and Tupac?

Yeah so he could hang out with some one who wasn't dead yet and some one who wasn't born.

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#20 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="stuff238"]JFK wasnt killed. That was a double. He faked his own death.True_Chaos_UK

So he could hang out with Elvis and Tupac?

Yeah so he could hang out with some one who wasn't dead yet and some one who wasn't born.

Humor escapes you doesn't it?
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#21 True_Chaos_UK
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[QUOTE="True_Chaos_UK"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] So he could hang out with Elvis and Tupac?LJS9502_basic

Yeah so he could hang out with some one who wasn't dead yet and some one who wasn't born.

Humor escapes you doesn't it?

I'm only messing why so serious.

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It was aliens.

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#23 worlock77
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[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="reach3"]

I got to admit, there was always something fishy about the whole thing. Oswald was untrained and hit the MOVING president twice (even with trees obtructing his view even more). Even trained miltary find this ridiculously hard to pull off, and Oswald wasnt trained at all.

Not to mention, Oswald was assasinated right after he said he was a patsy. I believe someone wanted to shut him up.

LJS9502_basic

Uhhhh, Oswald was trained military.

Wasn't very good though.....according to reports. Not like he'd be a sniper scout or anything....

This is true. Just telling the TC that Oswald wasn't exactly a rookie picking up a rifle for the first time though.

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#24 mingmao3046
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It's basically fact that Oswald was not the only shooter, most likely the CIA was involved. Watch the documentary "The men who killed kennedy" on youtube. Also, no expert marksman has been able to replicate the shots Oswald took with that specific rifle that quickly. Unless Oswald was the fastest rifleman the world has ever seen, there was more than 1 shooter
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#25 LJS9502_basic
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It's basically fact that Oswald was not the only shooter, most likely the CIA was involved. Watch the documentary "The men who killed kennedy" on youtube. Also, no expert marksman has been able to replicate the shots Oswald took with that specific rifle that quickly. Unless Oswald was the fastest rifleman the world has ever seen, there was more than 1 shootermingmao3046
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I don't doubt that there was more than just Oswald involved in the planning and organization of the assassination. But I think that Oswald was the only shooter.
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#27 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Nuck81"]I don't doubt that there was more than just Oswald involved in the planning and organization of the assassination. But I think that Oswald was the only shooter.

The amount of shots required and the weapon used would have to mean he was the most awesome shooter....
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nuck81"]I don't doubt that there was more than just Oswald involved in the planning and organization of the assassination. But I think that Oswald was the only shooter.

The amount of shots required and the weapon used would have to mean he was the most awesome shooter....

He was. He scored a 212 in Sharpshooting which is 12 points above the minimum to qualify for sniper, and received top ranks in speed shooting as well. There were only three shots fired in 7 seconds, at only 75 feet, a lot closer than people think, and he missed with his first shot. It could have easily been done by just one guy.
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[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nuck81"]I don't doubt that there was more than just Oswald involved in the planning and organization of the assassination. But I think that Oswald was the only shooter.

The amount of shots required and the weapon used would have to mean he was the most awesome shooter....

He was. He scored a 212 in Sharpshooting which is 12 points above the minimum to qualify for sniper, and received top ranks in speed shooting as well. There were only three shots fired in 7 seconds, at only 75 feet, a lot closer than people think, and he missed with his first shot. It could have easily been done by just one guy.

You know that he barely made sharpshooter and was way off expert....right? Top qualification is expert.....not sharpshooter.
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#30 Fightingfan
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I think he was killed by an organization.

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This an organization similar to the dudes in Singularity. Aka time traveling Nazis/Secret Service.
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[QUOTE="stuff238"]JFK wasnt killed. That was a double. He faked his own death.LJS9502_basic
So he could hang out with Elvis and Tupac?

and Jim Morrrison haha

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#32 MetroidPrimePwn
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JFK wasn't killed by 1 OR 2 people because he never existed.

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#33 GreySeal9
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JFK wasn't killed by 1 OR 2 people because he never existed.

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I haven't heard that angle before. :lol:

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] The amount of shots required and the weapon used would have to mean he was the most awesome shooter....

He was. He scored a 212 in Sharpshooting which is 12 points above the minimum to qualify for sniper, and received top ranks in speed shooting as well. There were only three shots fired in 7 seconds, at only 75 feet, a lot closer than people think, and he missed with his first shot. It could have easily been done by just one guy.

You know that he barely made sharpshooter and was way off expert....right? Top qualification is expert.....not sharpshooter.

Do some research, then come back when you have enough knowledge to have a conversation. Or can you not read since it's not in Old English?
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#35 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nuck81"] He was. He scored a 212 in Sharpshooting which is 12 points above the minimum to qualify for sniper, and received top ranks in speed shooting as well. There were only three shots fired in 7 seconds, at only 75 feet, a lot closer than people think, and he missed with his first shot. It could have easily been done by just one guy.

You know that he barely made sharpshooter and was way off expert....right? Top qualification is expert.....not sharpshooter.

Do some research, then come back when you have enough knowledge to have a conversation. Or can you not read since it's not in Old English?

Considering I know how qualifications work....and you apparently don't.....it's you that needs the research. He hit marksman...and then the next barely passed as sharpshooter....EXPERT IS THE TOP QUALIFICATIONS IN THE US ARMED FORCES. But without research I guess you'll just wallow in ignorance.
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One of the few conspiracy theories that I believe holds water.

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One of the few conspiracy theories that I believe holds water.

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[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]You know that he barely made sharpshooter and was way off expert....right? Top qualification is expert.....not sharpshooter.LJS9502_basic
Do some research, then come back when you have enough knowledge to have a conversation. Or can you not read since it's not in Old English?

Considering I know how qualifications work....and you apparently don't.....it's you that needs the research. He hit marksman...and then the next barely passed as sharpshooter....EXPERT IS THE TOP QUALIFICATIONS IN THE US ARMED FORCES. But without research I guess you'll just wallow in ignorance.

Which proves he was skilled enough to hit a target through a scope at 75 feet. Thanks for proving my right.
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[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nuck81"] Do some research, then come back when you have enough knowledge to have a conversation. Or can you not read since it's not in Old English?

Considering I know how qualifications work....and you apparently don't.....it's you that needs the research. He hit marksman...and then the next barely passed as sharpshooter....EXPERT IS THE TOP QUALIFICATIONS IN THE US ARMED FORCES. But without research I guess you'll just wallow in ignorance.

Which proves he was skilled enough to hit a target through a scope at 75 feet. Thanks for proving my right.

He didn't do very well and hey...targets for qualifications don't move.;)
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[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Considering I know how qualifications work....and you apparently don't.....it's you that needs the research. He hit marksman...and then the next barely passed as sharpshooter....EXPERT IS THE TOP QUALIFICATIONS IN THE US ARMED FORCES. But without research I guess you'll just wallow in ignorance.LJS9502_basic
Which proves he was skilled enough to hit a target through a scope at 75 feet. Thanks for proving my right.

He didn't do very well and hey...targets for qualifications don't move.;)

He did it well enough to hit two out of three shots in 7 seconds and score a kill shot. You're in over your head. Educate yourself on the events, then you may not look so foolish.
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[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nuck81"] Which proves he was skilled enough to hit a target through a scope at 75 feet. Thanks for proving my right.

He didn't do very well and hey...targets for qualifications don't move.;)

He did it well enough to hit two out of three shots in 7 seconds and score a kill shot. You're in over your head. Educate yourself on the events, then you may not look so foolish.

That still isn't making him an expert as you professed. It means he passed...he wasn't even at the top of the sharpshooter scale dude.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] He didn't do very well and hey...targets for qualifications don't move.;)

He did it well enough to hit two out of three shots in 7 seconds and score a kill shot. You're in over your head. Educate yourself on the events, then you may not look so foolish.

That still isn't making him an expert as you professed. It means he passed...he wasn't even at the top of the sharpshooter scale dude.

Strawman. I never said he was an expert. I said that he scored a 212 in sharpshooting and was a good enough marksman to make the shots that killed Kennedy. Do some research. Of the two shots that hit Kennedy, both came from behind and an elevated angle. The same Angle as the 6th story of the Book Depository. If there was someone in a "grassy knoll" Which they have photographic evidence there was not, then one of the shots would have come from in front of Kennedy. None did.
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Osama did it. Hence why we invaded Iraq. Don't you know anything about history?
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[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nuck81"] He did it well enough to hit two out of three shots in 7 seconds and score a kill shot. You're in over your head. Educate yourself on the events, then you may not look so foolish.

That still isn't making him an expert as you professed. It means he passed...he wasn't even at the top of the sharpshooter scale dude.

Strawman. I never said he was an expert. I said that he scored a 212 in sharpshooting and was a good enough marksman to make the shots that killed Kennedy. Do some research. Of the two shots that hit Kennedy, both came from behind and an elevated angle. The same Angle as the 6th story of the Book Depository. If there was someone in a "grassy knoll" Which they have photographic evidence there was not, then one of the shots would have come from in front of Kennedy. None did.

Here's a quote that shows the opposite of your stance.... -----Oswald's Marine Rifle Scores------ Even after weeks of practice and intensive training, Oswald barely managed to qualify at the level of "Sharpshooter," the middle of three rifle qualification levels in the Marines. He obtained a score of 212, two points above the minimum for the "Sharpshooter" level. In other words, even after extensive training and practice, and even though he was firing at stationary targets with a semi-automatic rifle and had plenty of time to shoot (even during the so-called "rapid-fire" phase), Oswald narrowly missed scoring at the lowest possible qualification level. The next time Oswald fired for record in the Marines, he barely managed to qualify at all, obtaining a score of 191, which was one point above the minimum needed for the lowest qualification level, "Marksman." To put it another way, he came within two points of failing to qualify.
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[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]That still isn't making him an expert as you professed. It means he passed...he wasn't even at the top of the sharpshooter scale dude.LJS9502_basic
Strawman. I never said he was an expert. I said that he scored a 212 in sharpshooting and was a good enough marksman to make the shots that killed Kennedy. Do some research. Of the two shots that hit Kennedy, both came from behind and an elevated angle. The same Angle as the 6th story of the Book Depository. If there was someone in a "grassy knoll" Which they have photographic evidence there was not, then one of the shots would have come from in front of Kennedy. None did.

Here's a quote that shows the opposite of your stance.... -----Oswald's Marine Rifle Scores------ Even after weeks of practice and intensive training, Oswald barely managed to qualify at the level of "Sharpshooter," the middle of three rifle qualification levels in the Marines. He obtained a score of 212, two points above the minimum for the "Sharpshooter" level. In other words, even after extensive training and practice, and even though he was firing at stationary targets with a semi-automatic rifle and had plenty of time to shoot (even during the so-called "rapid-fire" phase), Oswald narrowly missed scoring at the lowest possible qualification level. The next time Oswald fired for record in the Marines, he barely managed to qualify at all, obtaining a score of 191, which was one point above the minimum needed for the lowest qualification level, "Marksman." To put it another way, he came within two points of failing to qualify.

Did you copy and paste that from Wikipedia? Again you're clinging to this strawman. Why are you so insecure that you have this desperation to feel that you are right? Fact is he was a good enough shooter to make the shots, since Kennedy is dead. He was with two bullets, with one fatal head shot that came from behind him.
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#46 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Nuck81"] Strawman. I never said he was an expert. I said that he scored a 212 in sharpshooting and was a good enough marksman to make the shots that killed Kennedy. Do some research. Of the two shots that hit Kennedy, both came from behind and an elevated angle. The same Angle as the 6th story of the Book Depository. If there was someone in a "grassy knoll" Which they have photographic evidence there was not, then one of the shots would have come from in front of Kennedy. None did.Nuck81
Here's a quote that shows the opposite of your stance.... -----Oswald's Marine Rifle Scores------ Even after weeks of practice and intensive training, Oswald barely managed to qualify at the level of "Sharpshooter," the middle of three rifle qualification levels in the Marines. He obtained a score of 212, two points above the minimum for the "Sharpshooter" level. In other words, even after extensive training and practice, and even though he was firing at stationary targets with a semi-automatic rifle and had plenty of time to shoot (even during the so-called "rapid-fire" phase), Oswald narrowly missed scoring at the lowest possible qualification level. The next time Oswald fired for record in the Marines, he barely managed to qualify at all, obtaining a score of 191, which was one point above the minimum needed for the lowest qualification level, "Marksman." To put it another way, he came within two points of failing to qualify.

Did you copy and paste that from Wikipedia? Again you're clinging to this strawman. Why are you so insecure that you have this desperation to feel that you are right? Fact is he was a good enough shooter to make the shots, since Kennedy is dead. He was with two bullets, with one fatal head shot that came from behind him.

No I didn't get that from Wiki....I got it here..... And it states the opposite of your stance in this argument as to Oswald being capable.

Srawman? Now you're being dishonest. Here's your words....

The amount of shots required and the weapon used would have to mean he was the most awesome shooter....LJS9502_basic


He was. He scored a 212 in Sharpshooting which is 12 points above the minimum to qualify for sniper, and received top ranks in speed shooting as well.



There were only three shots fired in 7 seconds, at only 75 feet, a lot closer than people think, and he missed with his first shot. It could have easily been done by just one guy.Nuck81

Damn dude can't you even remember your own stance for 30 minutes or so?

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>JFK >one perpetrator I shiggy diggy doo
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[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Here's a quote that shows the opposite of your stance.... -----Oswald's Marine Rifle Scores------ Even after weeks of practice and intensive training, Oswald barely managed to qualify at the level of "Sharpshooter," the middle of three rifle qualification levels in the Marines. He obtained a score of 212, two points above the minimum for the "Sharpshooter" level. In other words, even after extensive training and practice, and even though he was firing at stationary targets with a semi-automatic rifle and had plenty of time to shoot (even during the so-called "rapid-fire" phase), Oswald narrowly missed scoring at the lowest possible qualification level. The next time Oswald fired for record in the Marines, he barely managed to qualify at all, obtaining a score of 191, which was one point above the minimum needed for the lowest qualification level, "Marksman." To put it another way, he came within two points of failing to qualify. LJS9502_basic

Did you copy and paste that from Wikipedia? Again you're clinging to this strawman. Why are you so insecure that you have this desperation to feel that you are right? Fact is he was a good enough shooter to make the shots, since Kennedy is dead. He was with two bullets, with one fatal head shot that came from behind him.

No I didn't get that from Wiki....I got it here..... And it states the opposite of your stance in this argument as to Oswald being capable.

Srawman? Now you're being dishonest. Here's your words....

The amount of shots required and the weapon used would have to mean he was the most awesome shooter....LJS9502_basic


He was. He scored a 212 in Sharpshooting which is 12 points above the minimum to qualify for sniper, and received top ranks in speed shooting as well.



There were only three shots fired in 7 seconds, at only 75 feet, a lot closer than people think, and he missed with his first shot. It could have easily been done by just one guy.Nuck81

Damn dude can't you even remember your own stance for 30 minutes or so?

Where did I say he was an expert? I said gave his scores and said he was good enough to make the shot. Which history proves he was. You're arguing the strawman because you're desperate. You're desperate because you are getting run out of yet another thread. Just log out and cool off a while. Off-topic seems to be getting to you today.
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#49 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Nuck81"] Did you copy and paste that from Wikipedia? Again you're clinging to this strawman. Why are you so insecure that you have this desperation to feel that you are right? Fact is he was a good enough shooter to make the shots, since Kennedy is dead. He was with two bullets, with one fatal head shot that came from behind him.Nuck81

No I didn't get that from Wiki....I got it here..... And it states the opposite of your stance in this argument as to Oswald being capable.

Srawman? Now you're being dishonest. Here's your words....

The amount of shots required and the weapon used would have to mean he was the most awesome shooter....LJS9502_basic


He was. He scored a 212 in Sharpshooting which is 12 points above the minimum to qualify for sniper, and received top ranks in speed shooting as well.



There were only three shots fired in 7 seconds, at only 75 feet, a lot closer than people think, and he missed with his first shot. It could have easily been done by just one guy.Nuck81

Damn dude can't you even remember your own stance for 30 minutes or so?

Where did I say he was an expert? I said gave his scores and said he was good enough to make the shot. Which history proves he was. You're arguing the strawman because you're desperate. You're desperate because you are getting run out of yet another thread. Just log out and cool off a while. Off-topic seems to be getting to you today.

Not a straw man......you did paint him as an awesome shooter which is far from the truth and no one has ever been able to replicate what a less than talented marine was supposed to be able to do. OT never gets to me. Perhaps it gets to you and that is why you project the feeling onto others.
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[QUOTE="Nuck81"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Here's a quote that shows the opposite of your stance.... -----Oswald's Marine Rifle Scores------ Even after weeks of practice and intensive training, Oswald barely managed to qualify at the level of "Sharpshooter," the middle of three rifle qualification levels in the Marines. He obtained a score of 212, two points above the minimum for the "Sharpshooter" level. In other words, even after extensive training and practice, and even though he was firing at stationary targets with a semi-automatic rifle and had plenty of time to shoot (even during the so-called "rapid-fire" phase), Oswald narrowly missed scoring at the lowest possible qualification level. The next time Oswald fired for record in the Marines, he barely managed to qualify at all, obtaining a score of 191, which was one point above the minimum needed for the lowest qualification level, "Marksman." To put it another way, he came within two points of failing to qualify. LJS9502_basic

Did you copy and paste that from Wikipedia? Again you're clinging to this strawman. Why are you so insecure that you have this desperation to feel that you are right? Fact is he was a good enough shooter to make the shots, since Kennedy is dead. He was with two bullets, with one fatal head shot that came from behind him.

No I didn't get that from Wiki....I got it here..... And it states the opposite of your stance in this argument as to Oswald being capable.

There is one thing missing from that page, especially with the interviews of the men who had been on the firing line with Oswald and that is at what distances they were firing at. During Boot Camp, firing took place at the 200, 300 and 500 yard lines with the rapid fire being at the 200 and 300 yard lines. Oswald may have been a great shot at 200 yards, but terrible at 300 and 500 yards. With the range at Dealey Plaza being under 100 yards, you would have to be a really bad shot to miss a human sized target (the Marines use a human sized target at 500 yards with the rapid fire targets being from the chest up).

Marine Corps Rifle Targets