A bit inappropriate.[QUOTE="Emraldo"]
No. Cut their d*cks off and shoot them in the head. Assassin1349
No. Not at all.
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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"][QUOTE="ITzCobra"]why would death be out of proportion, yous are forgetting about the victums, their lives are rouined by people like that. they constantly look over ther shoulders and wont go out in the dark aloneITzCobraIt can be the same for someone who is a victim of mugging. Do you propose the death penalty for muggers as well? good point but saying that .. mugging is diffrent to rape. wen your mugged your hit and muged, but rape your mugged off your life and you feel dirty you find it hard to trust men and you need help to carry on with your life
Way to generalize rape victims.
I know rape victims who would take strong objection to you telling them that they were "robbed of their lives".
And does this also apply to prison rape? Or...do prison rapists get to stay around just so that they can cause trauma to other prisoners?
good point but saying that .. mugging is diffrent to rape. wen your mugged your hit and muged, but rape your mugged off your life and you feel dirty you find it hard to trust men and you need help to carry on with your life[QUOTE="ITzCobra"][QUOTE="Engrish_Major"] It can be the same for someone who is a victim of mugging. Do you propose the death penalty for muggers as well?MrGeezer
Way to generalize rape victims.
I know rape victims who would take strong objection to you telling them that they were "robbed of their lives".
And does this also apply to prison rape? Or...do prison rapists get to stay around just so that they can cause trauma to other prisoners?
Same, one of my relatives has been raped and I know that she would be annoyed reading about someone who let it decide the course of her life. Gotta be stronger than that[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"] Remorse? So you're saying if someone raped you, and then CLAIMS he's sorry, you're just gonna let him/her off? EMOEVOLUTION
Yeah i'm with you on this one....just because he's "sorry" doesn't undo the action...
It takes a strong man to forgive somebody of something horrible. it's too easy to hate them and want vengeance.agreed
revenge and "justice" is the quick and easy route.
forgiveness is harder, but far better for both parties.
[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"] Remorse? So you're saying if someone raped you, and then CLAIMS he's sorry, you're just gonna let him/her off? EMOEVOLUTION
Yeah i'm with you on this one....just because he's "sorry" doesn't undo the action...
It takes a strong man to forgive somebody of something horrible. it's too easy to hate them and want vengeance. While it's true, some people aren't worth forgiving. Eg; Japan's war crimes, Hitler Borgia... etc I'm not comparing rape to war crimes and genocide, but I'm just saying that there comes a point when you don't forgive.[QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]It takes a strong man to forgive somebody of something horrible. it's too easy to hate them and want vengeance. While it's true, some people aren't worth forgiving. Eg; Japan's war crimes, Hitler Borgia... etc I'm not comparing rape to war crimes and genocide, but I'm just saying that there comes a point when you don't forgive.Yeah i'm with you on this one....just because he's "sorry" doesn't undo the action...
th3warr1or
there never comes a point where someone cant be forgiven by no one
You can, but you just don't. Because they're not worth saving. Do you forgive a serial rapist? He's done it repeatedly, and it's clear he's not gonna stop anytime soon. th3warr1orhow do you know he is not gonna stop? he could stop all of a sudden...you are no psychic to say that he wont... Im sorry if I look like a jerk to you...but im just trying to teach you a lesson...you just cant say that "someone is not worth saving" or that someone doesn't deserve other chance
[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]You can, but you just don't. Because they're not worth saving. Do you forgive a serial rapist? He's done it repeatedly, and it's clear he's not gonna stop anytime soon. lightleggyhow do you know he is not gonna stop? he could stop all of a sudden...you are no psychic to say that he wont... Im sorry if I look like a jerk to you...but im just trying to teach you a lesson...you just cant say that "someone is not worth saving" or that someone doesn't deserve other chance He's raped 10 women, what makes you think that he ISN'T going to rape an eleventh? He's been in prison 10 times, and raped 10 different people. Rapists disgust me, more so than murderers. They're the scum of the universe.
You can, but you just don't. Because they're not worth saving. Do you forgive a serial rapist? He's done it repeatedly, and it's clear he's not gonna stop anytime soon. th3warr1orI don't see how imprisonment until death won't stop a serial rapist tbh. He's behind bars, the courts see his history, he's convicted with no chance of release. That'll stop him.
I do not think rapists deserve a second chance because taking advantage of people in that manner regardless of age is plain horrible.
So all psychologically insane persons should be subjected to the death sentence because they could not control themselves.
Yeah that sounds reasonable.
How does killing this person make any positive impact on anybody else's life? You say rape isn't justifiable for revenge, how is murder more acceptable?
What pisses me off the most is the fact that we don't take some of these convicts and ship them to Iraq. We need people in the army, why not just take your pick from the jail crowd.
I don't agree with the death sentence. For any reason. I don't care how heinous the crime. If we'd spend more money on education or social programs, we wouldn't have prisons overflowing right now and people murdering and raping on a daily basis.
The problem with the death sentence is simple. A court case bases its justice on evidence presented. If that person is deemed guilty and killed, then later understood to be innocent, well that's just a bummer.
While it's true, some people aren't worth forgiving. Eg; Japan's war crimes, Hitler Borgia... etc I'm not comparing rape to war crimes and genocide, but I'm just saying that there comes a point when you don't forgive.[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="EMOEVOLUTION"] It takes a strong man to forgive somebody of something horrible. it's too easy to hate them and want vengeance.lightleggy
there never comes a point where someone cant be forgiven by no one
Well guess what..if i ever met a rapist i wouldn't forgive him and i would be all for execution..it is one of the most disgusting, sick and perverse things you can do to someone..
This question is too difficult.
I have been in a near rape situation.
And i don't feel like that person should be hurt for it at all.
In fact i feel for that person. Was a friend of mine.
I think if You talk to victims, You will find that some love their rapists despite what they did.
It's not that simple. A double edged knife.
It is a lack of self control, isn't it?
Can't people be taught self control?
[QUOTE="th3warr1or"]You can, but you just don't. Because they're not worth saving. Do you forgive a serial rapist? He's done it repeatedly, and it's clear he's not gonna stop anytime soon. T_P_OI don't see how imprisonment until death won't stop a serial rapist tbh. He's behind bars, the courts see his history, he's convicted with no chance of release. That'll stop him. I don't want to stop him. I want him to be punished, in all senses of the word. He didn't let the victim dictate his/her terms, he shouldn't be given the chance either. Eye for an eye? HELL YES.
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[QUOTE="th3warr1or"] While it's true, some people aren't worth forgiving. Eg; Japan's war crimes, Hitler Borgia... etc I'm not comparing rape to war crimes and genocide, but I'm just saying that there comes a point when you don't forgive. Xx_Hopeless_xX
there never comes a point where someone cant be forgiven by no one
Well guess what..if i ever met a rapist i wouldn't forgive him and i would be all for execution..it is one of the most disgusting, sick and perverse things you can do to someone..
Execution is disproportionate to the crime.(edited because of bad html)KungfuKittenI'm not talking about spousal rape and stuff like that... I'm referring to things like this Russian immigrant who was raped at a subway station, or the people that are raped every 2minutes in America.
[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="lightleggy"]
there never comes a point where someone cant be forgiven by no one
Gordon-Gekko
Well guess what..if i ever met a rapist i wouldn't forgive him and i would be all for execution..it is one of the most disgusting, sick and perverse things you can do to someone..
Execution is disproportionate to the crime. Says who? Rape is worse than murder. So as far as I'm concerned, Death sentence is indeed disproportionate. It's not enough.[QUOTE="T_P_O"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"]You can, but you just don't. Because they're not worth saving. Do you forgive a serial rapist? He's done it repeatedly, and it's clear he's not gonna stop anytime soon. th3warr1orI don't see how imprisonment until death won't stop a serial rapist tbh. He's behind bars, the courts see his history, he's convicted with no chance of release. That'll stop him. I don't want to stop him. I want him to be punished, in all senses of the word. He didn't let the victim dictate his/her terms, he shouldn't be given the chance either. Eye for an eye? HELL YES. Stopping him is a far more important issue than revenge. And how is being deprived of your liberty until you die not a punishment? Eye for an eye? You're going to have him raped?
[QUOTE="Gordon-Gekko"][QUOTE="th3warr1or"] Says who? Rape is worse than murder. So as far as I'm concerned, Death sentence is indeed disproportionate. It's not enough. th3warr1orNo, it isn't worse. You don't come back from murder. It is more than enough. What do you propose, eternal torture in hell? That's what everyone says, until they themselves or someone they know gets raped. Then the opinion changes on the spot. For the record, the fact that quite a handful of rape victims attempt suicide after that, proves that they DON'T WANT to come back from rape. I know 3 people who were raped. You are wrong in thinking that the idea of rape being worse than murder is a common thought among rape victims. If you want to keep saying it is and that most rape victims feel this way please provide evidence
[QUOTE="th3warr1or"][QUOTE="Gordon-Gekko"]No, it isn't worse. You don't come back from murder. It is more than enough. What do you propose, eternal torture in hell?tester962That's what everyone says, until they themselves or someone they know gets raped. Then the opinion changes on the spot. For the record, the fact that quite a handful of rape victims attempt suicide after that, proves that they DON'T WANT to come back from rape. You are wrong in thinking that the idea of rape being worse than murder is a common though among rape victims. This sentence made no sense. I am wrong, in thinking that the idea of rape being worse than murder is a common though among rape victims. What?
[QUOTE="Gordon-Gekko"][QUOTE="ITzCobra"]why would death be out of proportion, yous are forgetting about the victums, their lives are rouined by people like that. they constantly look over ther shoulders and wont go out in the dark aloneITzCobraI'm glad you can see inside my mind. I'm aware of the repercussions of being raped. A lengthy sentence will do just fine. why so they can get out and do it AGAIN and ruin some1 else lifeThey might do it again... But sex offenders have the lowest recidivism rate of all criminals...
[QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"][QUOTE="lightleggy"]
there never comes a point where someone cant be forgiven by no one
Gordon-Gekko
Well guess what..if i ever met a rapist i wouldn't forgive him and i would be all for execution..it is one of the most disgusting, sick and perverse things you can do to someone..
Execution is disproportionate to the crime.I don't believe so, you ruined someone's life...scarred them..caused possibly irreversible emotional damage...so i think taking their life is fine...not worth much anyway..
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