do you think that isreal MUST stop attaking Gaza? and STOP Killing Innocents?

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="explasiv"] They aren't the ones hiding behind civilians.jointed

the palestinians utilizing civilian shields has absolutely nothing to do with cowardice. If you dont know what constitutes cowardice, i suggest you go look up it up in a dictionary. If you already know what being a coward means, it just goes to show how little you actually know about the conflict and the motives behind it.BiancaDK

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] They aren't the ones hiding behind civilians.Cherokee_Jack

Non-weaponized white phosphorus gas.

[QUOTE="explasiv"]I WHOULD SAY THAT ISREAL ARE THE BIGGEST COWARDS IN THE HISTORY!Cherokee_Jack

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] And neither are they the ones flying 10,000 feet above the enemy dropping white phospherous gas. Silly Palestinians indeed.DAZZER7

the palestinians utilizing civilian shields has absolutely nothing to do with cowardice. If you dont know what constitutes cowardice, i suggest you go look up it up in a dictionary. If you already know what being a coward means, it just goes to show how little you actually know about the conflict and the motives behind it.BiancaDK

i am bothered by the fact that people here expect israel not to retaliate to rocket attacks by a terrorist group or even expect israel to retaliate in ONLY the same amount of rockets and tactics used by a TERRORIST GROUP.rowzzr

i am bothered by the fact that people here expect israel not to retaliate to rocket attacks by a terrorist group or even expect israel to retaliate in ONLY the same amount of rockets and tactics used by a TERRORIST GROUP.rowzzr

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

[QUOTE="jointed"] And neither are they the ones flying 10,000 feet above the enemy dropping white phospherous gas.jointed

Non-weaponized white phosphorus gas.

[QUOTE="rowzzr"]i am bothered by the fact that people here expect israel not to retaliate to rocket attacks by a terrorist group or even expect israel to retaliate in ONLY the same amount of rockets and tactics used by a TERRORIST GROUP.explasiv

I think it's time that the Concentration Camps "Gaza Strip" and "West Bank" are liberated by the World. I used to think Israel wanted Peace. Now I see they just like to flex thier Muslces once a year.Mikey132

Concentration camps?

Never mind, I don't even want to know.

[QUOTE="explasiv"][QUOTE="rowzzr"]i am bothered by the fact that people here expect israel not to retaliate to rocket attacks by a terrorist group or even expect israel to retaliate in ONLY the same amount of rockets and tactics used by a TERRORIST GROUP.Chutebox

[QUOTE="Mikey132"]I think it's time that the Concentration Camps "Gaza Strip" and "West Bank" are liberated by the World. I used to think Israel wanted Peace. Now I see they just like to flex thier Muslces once a year.Cherokee_Jack

Concentration camps?

Never mind, I don't even want to know.

Yeah, just like the Nazi's isolated and tortured the Jews. (Who did fight back againts the Nazis when possible. Just like what Israel is doing to Palistine!

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

Non-weaponized white phosphorus gas.

Cherokee_Jack

[QUOTE="DAZZER7"][QUOTE="jointed"] ..and tell me, what would Hamas do if they had military might that Israel has? If you look at it like that, Israel has shown considerable restraint! [QUOTE="BiancaDK"]the palestinians utilizing civilian shields has absolutely nothing to do with cowardice. If you dont know what constitutes cowardice, i suggest you go look up it up in a dictionary. If you already know what being a coward means, it just goes to show how little you actually know about the conflict and the motives behind it.BiancaDK

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="jointed"] Is that supposed to make it better? :lol:jointed

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"] Considering that there's a large difference between Israel's use of WP as a smoke-creating agent and using it as an incendiary weapon, yes.DAZZER7

[QUOTE="DAZZER7"][QUOTE="jointed"] The gas wasn't even the point. The point was that they're making extensive use of air power, something that's just as "cowardly" as hiding behind civilians if we go by such flawed logic. jointed

iam not saying that hamas didn't do nothing it was wrong to attack isreal but isreal must not kill civilians why didn't do nothing + the biggest prove that isreal are cowards is that when hamas leader khalid mashal went to lebenon isreal tried to kill him,when he went to jordan they tried to kill him,when he went to sudia arabia

they tried to kill him but when he went to iran the 2nd strongest country in the world they didnt do anything and that prove that they fear the strong and they kill the weak.

but it was wrong to attack isreal and it was wrong for isreal to kill civilians in a war that is soldier vs soldier

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="DAZZER7"] OK, so they should use Hamas' tactics then? DAZZER7

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="explasiv"] same amount?! dud isreal got f16 warhawk and alot of atom bombs and take a look at hamas's best rocket it called grad rocket and its small even a hand grenade is better http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/122_mm_missiles_NTW_10_93.jpg/300px-122_mm_missiles_NTW_10_93.jpg this is the best rocket that hamas gotexplasiv

iam not saying that hamas didn't do nothing it was wrong to attack isreal but isreal must not kill civilians why didn't do nothing + the biggest prove that isreal are cowards is that when hamas leader khalid mashal went to lebenon isreal tried to kill him,when he went to jordan they tried to kill him,when he went to sudia arabia

they tried to kill him but when he went to iran the 2nd strongest country in the world they didnt do anything and that prove that they fear the strong and they kill the weak.

but it was wrong to attack isreal and it was wrong for isreal to kill civilians in a war that is soldier vs soldier

explasiv

I totally agree....finally :)

I don't believe Israel are going about it entirely the right way but I do believe that they have a right to defend themselves. If Israel had sent in their gunships or started airstrikes in gaza and Hamas were 'responding' with rockets then I would be saying the same thing for Hamas etc.

[QUOTE="DAZZER7"][QUOTE="jointed"] Why would they want to do that?jointed

iam not saying that hamas didn't do nothing it was wrong to attack isreal but isreal must not kill civilians why didn't do nothing + the biggest prove that isreal are cowards is that when hamas leader khalid mashal went to lebenon isreal tried to kill him,when he went to jordan they tried to kill him,when he went to sudia arabia

they tried to kill him but when he went to iran the 2nd strongest country in the world they didnt do anything and that prove that they fear the strong and they kill the weak.

but it was wrong to attack isreal and it was wrong for isreal to kill civilians in a war that is soldier vs soldier

explasiv

[QUOTE="explasiv"]

iam not saying that hamas didn't do nothing it was wrong to attack isreal but isreal must not kill civilians why didn't do nothing + the biggest prove that isreal are cowards is that when hamas leader khalid mashal went to lebenon isreal tried to kill him,when he went to jordan they tried to kill him,when he went to sudia arabia

they tried to kill him but when he went to iran the 2nd strongest country in the world they didnt do anything and that prove that they fear the strong and they kill the weak.

but it was wrong to attack isreal and it was wrong for isreal to kill civilians in a war that is soldier vs soldier

DAZZER7

I totally agree....finally :)

I don't believe Israel are going about it entirely the right way but I do believe that they have a right to defend themselves. If Israel had sent in their gunships or started airstrikes in gaza and Hamas were 'responding' with rockets then I would be saying the same thing for Hamas etc.

[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="DAZZER7"] Well what 'should' they do then? The only action some of you would accept is... nothing?DAZZER7

[QUOTE="explasiv"]

iam not saying that hamas didn't do nothing it was wrong to attack isreal but isreal must not kill civilians why didn't do nothing + the biggest prove that isreal are cowards is that when hamas leader khalid mashal went to lebenon isreal tried to kill him,when he went to jordan they tried to kill him,when he went to sudia arabia

they tried to kill him but when he went to iran the 2nd strongest country in the world they didnt do anything and that prove that they fear the strong and they kill the weak.

but it was wrong to attack isreal and it was wrong for isreal to kill civilians in a war that is soldier vs soldier

Chutebox

If this was Public School. And Jimmy threw the first stone, But Johnny threw one back, and Jimmy threw a bigger one back. Johnny looks but can't find one for himself. So he asks his big brother for one. And of course big brother gives unconditional support no matter what happens. So he give Johnny a SlingShot and Barrel of rocks.

So Now Johnny has the advantage. He pelts Jimmy until he's black and blue. When Jimmy gets enough strenght to resist, he throws a stone that scratches Johnnys leg. Johnny now repelts Jimmy until he's black and blue. Big Brother stands behind showing his support for the savage beating Jimmy is laying on Johnny. Never second guessing wether he should have gave his brother the sling shot.

So anyways, everyone is wrong in this situation. no one is doing anything right. And this problem wouldn't be solved until the Principal steped in.

So what Country could be the Principal, the U.S is already the big brother.

The problem is Children can't solve problems own thier own. And that's what they all act like about this situation!

Look at my Sig...... Both sides must feel the same way!

iam not saying that hamas didn't do nothing it was wrong to attack isreal but isreal must not kill civilians why didn't do nothing + the biggest prove that isreal are cowards is that when hamas leader khalid mashal went to lebenon isreal tried to kill him,when he went to jordan they tried to kill him,when he went to sudia arabia

they tried to kill him but when he went to iran the 2nd strongest country in the world they didnt do anything and that prove that they fear the strong and they kill the weak.

but it was wrong to attack isreal and it was wrong for isreal to kill civilians in a war that is soldier vs soldier

If this was Public School. And Jimmy threw the first stone, But Johnny threw one back, and Jimmy threw a bigger one back. Johnny looks but can't find one for himself. So he asks his big brother for one. And of course big brother gives unconditional support no matter what happens. So he give Johnny a SlingShot and Barrel of rocks.

So Now Johnny has the advantage. He pelts Jimmy until he's black and blue. When Jimmy gets enough strenght to resist, he throws a stone that scratches Johnnys leg. Johnny now repelts Jimmy until he's black and blue. Big Brother stands behind showing his support for the savage beating Jimmy is laying on Johnny. Never second guessing wether he should have gave his brother the sling shot.

So anyways, everyone is wrong in this situation. no one is doing anything right. And this problem wouldn't be solved until the Principal steped in.

So what Country could be the Principal, the U.S is already the big brother.

The problem is Children can't solve problems own thier own. And that's what they all act like about this situation!

Look at my Sig...... Both sides must feel the same way!

ill leave you lot with this: you think a person who is fearful of mortal danger would fire a makeshift mortar shell/rocket-propelled grenade, knowing the average israeli response time is based on only a few minutes? You: Thats why theyre hiding between civilians, to avoid mortal danger. Me: You think they dont know the casualty numbers of the palestinians by now? Its obvious that there are dangers attached to it, if there were no dangers attached to it, there would be 0 civilian casualties. If they were truly cowards, they would avoid envoking the wrath of the israeli military upon themselves, yet the palestinians assailants put themselves in the central spot light every time they instigate an attack. For this reason, it is blatantly obvious that firing from positions crowded with civilians is not a question of cowardice. There are other factors motivating them to choose to fight amongst civilians. If you cant acknowledge this, i guess its entirely lost on you. DAZZER7:"Also, all you people hating on IOsrael havent answered the simple question that has been asked over and over...what is Israel's responce supposed to be to rocket attacks?" If you read one of my other comments, i state:"Proceed", as in israel has my full support doing what theyre doing down there. I am in no way trying to defend the actions of the palestinian assailants, and have not done so thruout this entire thread. Youre just drawing your own unfounded assumptions on my comments.BiancaDK

Yeah lol, that is exactly what I am doing. I reading your comments and...making my own assumption on your opinion. Maybe you should make yourself more clear?

[QUOTE="BiancaDK"]ill leave you lot with this: you think a person who is fearful of mortal danger would fire a makeshift mortar shell/rocket-propelled grenade, knowing the average israeli response time is based on only a few minutes? You: Thats why theyre hiding between civilians, to avoid mortal danger. Me: You think they dont know the casualty numbers of the palestinians by now? Its obvious that there are dangers attached to it, if there were no dangers attached to it, there would be 0 civilian casualties. If they were truly cowards, they would avoid envoking the wrath of the israeli military upon themselves, yet the palestinians assailants put themselves in the central spot light every time they instigate an attack. For this reason, it is blatantly obvious that firing from positions crowded with civilians is not a question of cowardice. There are other factors motivating them to choose to fight amongst civilians. If you cant acknowledge this, i guess its entirely lost on you. DAZZER7:"Also, all you people hating on IOsrael havent answered the simple question that has been asked over and over...what is Israel's responce supposed to be to rocket attacks?" If you read one of my other comments, i state:"Proceed", as in israel has my full support doing what theyre doing down there. I am in no way trying to defend the actions of the palestinian assailants, and have not done so thruout this entire thread. Youre just drawing your own unfounded assumptions on my comments.DAZZER7

Yeah lol, that is exactly what I am doing. I reading your comments and...making my own assumption on your opinion. Maybe you should make yourself more clear?

[QUOTE="explasiv"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Wait, did you say Iran is the second strongest country in the world?DAZZER7

The UN powers couldn't stop them, even when they told them to stop fireing.

Yea sure you want them to stop, But they don't want to.

If you guys think you could stop them, then all the power to you,

Good luck...........

[QUOTE="DAZZER7"][QUOTE="explasiv"] In terms of nuclear weapons,YES and maybe the #1 cuz they have a nuclear bomb that can destroy all California explasiv

Well the Russians detonated a Nuke in the 60's that had a Shockwave powerful enough to still be measured on it's third time around the World. So it must be one hell of a powerful bomb.

[QUOTE="DAZZER7"][QUOTE="explasiv"] In terms of nuclear weapons,YES and maybe the #1 cuz they have a nuclear bomb that can destroy all California explasiv

I will only say this once, so please pay attention. Iran does not have nuclear weapons...yet. The US is unhappy because Iran is working on technology that may, in the future, make it easier for them to develop them. The only countries that have nuclear weapons are, in a rough order of nuclear capability, US, Russia, China, UK, France, Israel (unofficially), India and Pakistan. There are no supernukes, but if anyone has them it is the US.

[QUOTE="DAZZER7"][QUOTE="explasiv"] In terms of nuclear weapons,YES and maybe the #1 cuz they have a nuclear bomb that can destroy all California explasiv

and i am being perfectly clear. Most people in this board understands me just fine.BiancaDK

[QUOTE="explasiv"][QUOTE="DAZZER7"] No lol. There are many countries with many times the stockpile Iran has. At the height of the cold-war, it was reported that the US had 13,000+ warheads! The Soviet Union had similar numbers at around 9,000! Then there are European countries such as the UK, France and other countires such as China. Commonwealth countries also are reported to have nuclear capabilities include Australia, New Zealand, Canada and not to mention India! No one knows for sure but I think it is highly unlikely that Iran are top of such a list. I think people fear their willingness to use them though!DAZZER7

[QUOTE="DAZZER7"][QUOTE="explasiv"] In terms of nuclear weapons,YES and maybe the #1 cuz they have a nuclear bomb that can destroy all California explasiv

[QUOTE="BiancaDK"]and i am being perfectly clear. Most people in this board understands me just fine.explasiv

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]I hope you're aware that citing Al Jazeera isn't exactly a boost to your credibility.II_Seraphim_II

[QUOTE="explasiv"][QUOTE="BiancaDK"]and i am being perfectly clear. Most people in this board understands me just fine.BiancaDK

I don't want to get technical or even really involed. But 9,000 impacts? So Israel has killed what about 1,000 people in 2 weeks, Well just 13 more weeks of war and they'll have 9,000 dead. A dead Palistinian for every Rocket Impact. Again this is nothing but Children with guns.

Every heard the song "The Fletcher Memorial Home" Off the Final Cut by Pink Floyd? Give it a listen. That's where the Mid East Leaders should go! If there was a real Place!