Sure. I don't think there are any invisible boundaries to make the universe finite....
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How is current space an endless blackness completely lacking light? What about all the stars, black holes and galaxies? They would still be emitting lightif it weren't infinite I wonder what nothingness would look like. Would it be an endless blank white light? If so then where would the light be coming from? Would it be an endless blackness completely lacking in light? If so would that be any different from space?
Serraph105
[QUOTE="Serraph105"]How is current space an endless blackness completely lacking light? What about all the stars, black holes and galaxies? They would still be emitting light I mean where you look into the night sky and there is no stars. Sure those are relatively small parts, but there are many that exist. Would it be any different that than that except for the fact that you can't look into the distance and see a star somewhere? If so how would that not also be part of the universe if you could go there.if it weren't infinite I wonder what nothingness would look like. Would it be an endless blank white light? If so then where would the light be coming from? Would it be an endless blackness completely lacking in light? If so would that be any different from space?
chaoscougar1
[QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]
[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]
we cant even honestly make it to the moon....so how in the world do we know its infinite?
VanDammFan
What do you mean we can't make it to the moon.
Not only have we (or our lander and orbiter, and rover) been there, we've landed rover on Mars for years, and we actually landed a probe as far as Saturn's sixth moon : Titan, we also have probes that's now flying out of the solar system, we are making progress here.
NOPE...sorry..we have NOT been to the moon. THIS however is my opinion and not everyone else's
Fuсk off, сunt.No... bad... read earlier in this thread. BAD. BAD user.if it weren't infinite I wonder what nothingness would look like. Would it be an endless blank white light? If so then where would the light be coming from? Would it be an endless blackness completely lacking in light? If so would that be any different from space?
Serraph105
[QUOTE="-Tish-"][QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"]Frame_DraggerNice knowin' ya. Welcome to the new ToU Tish. lol
[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="-Tish-"]Nice knowin' ya. chaoscougar1Welcome to the new ToU Tish. lol Of course, Tish is also missing the reference, that VanD doesn't apperciate cursing... ah well. A conspiracy theorist with an aversion to cursing... I assume he's hydrocephalic.
[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="-Tish-"]Nice knowin' ya. -Tish-Welcome to the new ToU Tish. Wait, really? No kidding we can flame people that harshly and not worry about censoring anything? Well thats... cool I guess... Yeah... it's been this way for weeks... you MIGHT want to read the new ToU.
[QUOTE="-Tish-"][QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"]Frame_DraggerNice knowin' ya. Welcome to the new ToU Tish.
little harsh though, don't ya think ?
[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] Welcome to the new ToU Tish.Frame_Draggerlol Of course, Tish is also missing the reference, that VanD doesn't apperciate cursing... ah well. A conspiracy theorist with an aversion to cursing... I assume he's hydrocephalic. No actually I didn't even read your conversation I just saw your little insult and found it mildly amusing. As far as reading the ToU, no thanks. I never bothered with reading the rules before, so I won't bother now. Trial and error is my style.
[QUOTE="Serraph105"]No... bad... read earlier in this thread. BAD. BAD user. uh, the thread is 8 pages long. how about you tell me what you are referring to or better yet quote it.if it weren't infinite I wonder what nothingness would look like. Would it be an endless blank white light? If so then where would the light be coming from? Would it be an endless blackness completely lacking in light? If so would that be any different from space?
Frame_Dragger
Welcome to the new ToU Tish.[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="-Tish-"]Nice knowin' ya. Jagged3dge
little harsh though, don't ya think ?
People who think that decades of NASA's work is part of a pointless and elaborate conspiracy need to be corrected, and it's the net... sooo... yeah it was harsh, but I can't bring myself to care.if it weren't infinite I wonder what nothingness would look like. Would it be an endless blank white light? If so then where would the light be coming from? Would it be an endless blackness completely lacking in light? If so would that be any different from space?
No... bad... read earlier in this thread. BAD. BAD user. uh, the thread is 8 pages long. how about you tell me what you are referring to or better yet quote it. Nothingness is... nothing... no space, no time, and it can't occupy dimensions or have degrees of freedom. It can't be observable either, so assigning any quality to it would immidiately imply that it IS something. Remember, even if you managed to stop spontaneous pair production and annihilation in the vacuum, and blocked all Em radiation, space itself is still 3 dimensions of space, and one of time... which is something.[QUOTE="Jagged3dge"][QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] Welcome to the new ToU Tish.Frame_Dragger
little harsh though, don't ya think ?
People who think that decades of NASA's work is part of a pointless and elaborate conspiracy need to be corrected, and it's the net... sooo... yeah it was harsh, but I can't bring myself to care. NASA? Pretty sure all the stuff they've ever done is a hoax.[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="Jagged3dge"]People who think that decades of NASA's work is part of a pointless and elaborate conspiracy need to be corrected, and it's the net... sooo... yeah it was harsh, but I can't bring myself to care. NASA? Pretty sure all the stuff they've ever done is a hoax. I'm not buying your sincerity on this... you don't strike me as criminally stupid.little harsh though, don't ya think ?
-Tish-
NASA? Pretty sure all the stuff they've ever done is a hoax. I'm not buying your sincerity on this... you don't strike me as criminally stupid. Hahaha... You are one smart dude. I'd say that's fairly evident. But dude, you're so damn angry that it really doesn't matter. I suggest unwinding a little. Go get laid or smoke a doobie or something.[QUOTE="-Tish-"][QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] People who think that decades of NASA's work is part of a pointless and elaborate conspiracy need to be corrected, and it's the net... sooo... yeah it was harsh, but I can't bring myself to care.Frame_Dragger
[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"]
NASA? Pretty sure all the stuff they've ever done is a hoax. -Tish-I'm not buying your sincerity on this... you don't strike me as criminally stupid. Hahaha... You are one smart dude. I'd say that's fairly evident. But dude, you're so damn angry that it really doesn't matter. I suggest unwinding a little. Go get laid or smoke a doobie or something. I'm not angry, I'm just very direct when I'm online... no real reason not to be. As for the comment to VanDamm... why not say that if it's calculated to offend his particular sensibilities? Normally, I'd post some kind of facepalm gif, but for him... oh well.
[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] I'm not buying your sincerity on this... you don't strike me as criminally stupid.
Hahaha... You are one smart dude. I'd say that's fairly evident. But dude, you're so damn angry that it really doesn't matter. I suggest unwinding a little. Go get laid or smoke a doobie or something. I'm not angry, I'm just very direct when I'm online... no real reason not to be. As for the comment to VanDamm... why not say that if it's calculated to offend his particular sensibilities? Normally, I'd post some kind of facepalm gif, but for him... oh well. Oh... Well all that directness can be easily misconstrued for something else. Like, for instance, being a douche bag.Wait......so we can say the word **** and **** now?
edit: Apparently notXileLord
You have no skills, bro.
[QUOTE="XileLord"]
Wait......so we can say the word **** and **** now?
edit: Apparently notcoolbeans90
You have no skills, bro.
Well I could throw in a few dots between the words but than it's not really the full word. What skills am I lacking exactly....... bro? If the TOS changed and we can say these words without a filter than why is it still filtering the words?[QUOTE="XileLord"]
Wait......so we can say the word **** and **** now?
edit: Apparently notcoolbeans90
You have no skills, bro.
No fuсken skills at all[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]
[QUOTE="XileLord"]
Wait......so we can say the word **** and **** now?
edit: Apparently notXileLord
You have no skills, bro.
Well I could throw in a few dots between the words but than it's not really the full word. What skills am I lacking exactly....... bro? If the TOS changed and we can say these words without a filter than why is it still filtering the words?You gotta use diff. ASCII characters. I, for one, am too f*cking lazy to, however.
[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="-Tish-"] Hahaha... You are one smart dude. I'd say that's fairly evident. But dude, you're so damn angry that it really doesn't matter. I suggest unwinding a little. Go get laid or smoke a doobie or something.I'm not angry, I'm just very direct when I'm online... no real reason not to be. As for the comment to VanDamm... why not say that if it's calculated to offend his particular sensibilities? Normally, I'd post some kind of facepalm gif, but for him... oh well. Oh... Well all that directness can be easily misconstrued for something else. Like, for instance, being a douche bag. There's a cost to everything in life, I choose in this instance to, "Buy the ticket, take the ride."-Tish-
[QUOTE="tenaka2"][QUOTE="gamerguru100"]
What say you?
I'm indifferent since we can't know for sure.
Frame_Dragger
Its been proved that the universe is expanding, as this is the case it cannot be infinite, just very large.
This is untrue... it could be infinite, expanding, and have been infinitely expanding for an infinite duration. Due to the Cosmological Event Horizon, we can't know. It's a conceptual kick in the balls, but expansion/contraction doesn't contradict infinite extent.If it were infinite it could not expand as it would have nothing to expand into as it would already occupy all available space, at least that is my understanding of it, I thought the current understanding was that is wasn't infinate.
Heres a better question. How was the universe formed or has it always been?katana_duoThe Big Bang OR String/M-theory I think Big Bang is more widely recognised though
[QUOTE="katana_duo"]Heres a better question. How was the universe formed or has it always been?chaoscougar1The Big Bang OR String/M-theory I think Big Bang is more widely recognised though Too mainstream. ;)
[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="katana_duo"]Heres a better question. How was the universe formed or has it always been?katana_duoThe Big Bang OR String/M-theory I think Big Bang is more widely recognised though Too mainstream. ;) Oh, God knows how to push the universes buttons ;D
[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]
[QUOTE="Ncsoftlover"]
What do you mean we can't make it to the moon.
Not only have we (or our lander and orbiter, and rover) been there, we've landed rover on Mars for years, and we actually landed a probe as far as Saturn's sixth moon : Titan, we also have probes that's now flying out of the solar system, we are making progress here.
Frame_Dragger
NOPE...sorry..we have NOT been to the moon. THIS however is my opinion and not everyone else's
Fuсk off, сunt.again...big E-talk kid...enjoy knowing you are safe behind your monitor.
Fuсk off, сunt.[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"]
[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]
NOPE...sorry..we have NOT been to the moon. THIS however is my opinion and not everyone else's
VanDammFan
again...big E-talk kid...enjoy knowing you are safe behind your monitor.
It was a bit harsh, and no way to talk to the mentally deficient.
Are you concerned that your tin-foil hatmight attract lightning if its a stormy day?
[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] No... bad... read earlier in this thread. BAD. BAD user.Frame_Draggeruh, the thread is 8 pages long. how about you tell me what you are referring to or better yet quote it. Nothingness is... nothing... no space, no time, and it can't occupy dimensions or have degrees of freedom. It can't be observable either, so assigning any quality to it would immidiately imply that it IS something. Remember, even if you managed to stop spontaneous pair production and annihilation in the vacuum, and blocked all Em radiation, space itself is still 3 dimensions of space, and one of time... which is something. I thought space was now considered 10 dimensions and 1 of time? Well, according to string theory anyways.
[QUOTE="Diophage"]Nothingness doesn't exist!Befor man man got to space. the idea was there had to somthing filling all of space. that there could not be nothing that all. they were blowen way that there was infact nothing there but an empty void betwwen the stars and planets and whatever. So nothing is a vervy realNothingness is infinite, but I don't think anything else is.
ZumaJones07
Nothingness doesn't exist!Befor man man got to space. the idea was there had to somthing filling all of space. that there could not be nothing that all. they were blowen way that there was infact nothing there but an empty void betwwen the stars and planets and whatever. So nothing is a vervy real Something was made from nothing If you follow Stephen Hawking's advice[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"][QUOTE="Diophage"]
Nothingness is infinite, but I don't think anything else is.
Addict187
[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]
[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"] Fuсk off, сunt.
tenaka2
again...big E-talk kid...enjoy knowing you are safe behind your monitor.
It was a bit harsh, and no way to talk to the mentally deficient.
Are you concerned that your tin-foil hatmight attract lightning if its a stormy day?
There is a better way on informing vandammfan. Scientists from every corner of the world were watching the first astronauts as they embarked on the journey to the moon. Do you honestly think we could get every single thing right and con it perfectly and have not a single articulate person spot it.The space race consisted of years and years of work, billions of dollars, thousands of pounds of coffee, and hundreds of thousands of people working around the clock working diligently trying to get to space.
It was not just to make something outta a michael Bay film.
[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"]
[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]
NOPE...sorry..we have NOT been to the moon. THIS however is my opinion and not everyone else's
Fuсk off, сunt.again...big E-talk kid...enjoy knowing you are safe behind your monitor.
You really enjoy the notion that other people are young, don't you? I'll grant you, you're 9 years my senior, and obviously well into your dotage, but still.... have some self respect. @Taylor888: According to String Theories... it could be quite a few different configuration, but the only theory which has empirical support is GR, which sticks to 3+1.Space is infinite. The universe is not. the universe has a starting point as to when it began its expansion, and seeing as it's continuing to expand, it's not at infinity just yet. But it's really, really large.jman1553
Then there would be somthing out side the universe. it can not just end with nothing out side of it. What i am saying is if there is nothing outside it then that would be considerd space to.but how knows? we will all be gone befor anyone finds out
[QUOTE="jman1553"]Space is infinite. The universe is not. the universe has a starting point as to when it began its expansion, and seeing as it's continuing to expand, it's not at infinity just yet. But it's really, really large.Addict187
Then there would be somthing out side the universe. it can not just end with nothing out side of it. What i am saying is if there is nothing outside it then that would be considerd space to.but how knows? we will all be gone befor anyone finds out
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