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#1 Laihendi
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Do you think you're already paying your fair share, or do you perhaps think you should be patriotic and give a little more? I think I pay enough.

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#2 deactivated-5e97585ea928c
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I think $500 a paycheque is enough.
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#3 br0kenrabbit
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I make several times more than my parents but pay less % in taxes because my money comes from annuities and dividends.

Yes, I should be paying more. It's a joke.

I could probably get by paying even less if I felt like looking for every tax break I can hide behind.

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#4 Flubbbs
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I make several times more than my parents but pay less % in taxes because my money comes from annuities and dividends.

Yes, I should be paying more. It's a joke.

I could probably get by paying even less if I felt like looking for every tax break I can hide behind.

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call them and let them know you want to pay more or you can sent the moneys to me and ill make sure they recieve it :)

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#5 Zeviander
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I am paying the amount my country demands of me.
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#6 ristactionjakso
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Government nickles and dimes families to much in my opinion. Especially since the economy is so bad that I had to find a new minimum wage job after losing my construction job.

Besides, they would waste the tax revenue anyway. They are a bunch of incompetent a holes that should lower their paychecks and pay more taxes themselves. Some of them just don't pay taxes at all. Government is the main reason for America's problems, why should I trust them to do what's right with more taxes?

Tax revenue isn't the problem, we could send all the money every single American makes to Government and it still wouldn't pay off our debt. We don't have a revenue problem, ITS A GOVERNMENT SPENDING PROBLEM.

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#7 br0kenrabbit
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[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

I make several times more than my parents but pay less % in taxes because my money comes from annuities and dividends.

Yes, I should be paying more. It's a joke.

I could probably get by paying even less if I felt like looking for every tax break I can hide behind.

Flubbbs

call them and let them know you want to pay more or you can sent the moneys to me and ill make sure they recieve it :)

It's sickening that hard-ass working people have to pay more of their income (by %) than people who are set by letting their money work for them. It's not right. Why should I get to sit around on my ass all day making mucho bucks and flipping a few pennies here and there to Uncle Sam when some men work 8-16 hours a day and have to put up a good chunk of their pay?

Yeah I worked hard to get where I am, but now that I'm here that doesn't negate my duty to society.

And to answer your question, I not only do a good bit of volunteer work, but I spend more money on charities and just straight-up "here, I know you need this" than I spend on monthly bills. The problem with giving it to Uncle Sam isn't the intent, as I agree with social saftey nets for those who really can't help themselves, but the bureaucracy will eat up 3/4th of every dollar I send before it even gets put to use.

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#8 Fightingfan
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I think everyone should pay more taxes in America, me? Sure because I avoid taxes as much as possible.
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#9 Fightingfan
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Government nickles and dimes families to much in my opinion. Especially since the economy is so bad that I had to find a new minimum wage job after losing my construction job.

Besides, they would waste the tax revenue anyway. They are a bunch of incompetent a holes that should lower their paychecks and pay more taxes themselves. Some of them just don't pay taxes at all. Government is the main reason for America's problems, why should I trust them to do what's right with more taxes?

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Yeah I just imagine the feds with cocaine and hookers in tijuana with my tax money.
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#10 Abbeten
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Government nickles and dimes families to much in my opinion. Especially since the economy is so bad that I had to find a new minimum wage job after losing my construction job.

Besides, they would waste the tax revenue anyway. They are a bunch of incompetent a holes that should lower their paychecks and pay more taxes themselves. Some of them just don't pay taxes at all. Government is the main reason for America's problems, why should I trust them to do what's right with more taxes?

Tax revenue isn't the problem, we could send all the money every single American makes to Government and it still wouldn't pay off our debt. We don't have a revenue problem, ITS A GOVERNMENT SPENDING PROBLEM.

ristactionjakso
i like posts like these. they read like he just reached into a bag and grabbed out prewritten sentences at random. anyway, we totally have a revenue problem as well bruh bruh.
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#11 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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I aint American, but I still vote yes ^^ EU does have some different ideals ofcourse, and I even liv ein the most tax heavy country -.-

That said, ther eare enough people who would benefit for a state with more money, especially mentally ill and homeless.

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#12 --Anna--
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No, if I did they would just spend it instead of reducing the debt.

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#13 Treflis
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Considering I pay around 40% tax, I suppose I could reluctantly accept one or two more percents but not much more.

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#14 MonsieurX
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Already the most taxed in North America here,so no thanks.
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No, if I did they would just spend it instead of reducing the debt.

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#17 lo_Pine
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No. Buying corporate bonds or mutual funds would benefit more as it would actually increase projects.
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#18 ristactionjakso
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[QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]

Government nickles and dimes families to much in my opinion. Especially since the economy is so bad that I had to find a new minimum wage job after losing my construction job.

Besides, they would waste the tax revenue anyway. They are a bunch of incompetent a holes that should lower their paychecks and pay more taxes themselves. Some of them just don't pay taxes at all. Government is the main reason for America's problems, why should I trust them to do what's right with more taxes?

Tax revenue isn't the problem, we could send all the money every single American makes to Government and it still wouldn't pay off our debt. We don't have a revenue problem, ITS A GOVERNMENT SPENDING PROBLEM.

Abbeten

i like posts like these. they read like he just reached into a bag and grabbed out prewritten sentences at random. anyway, we totally have a revenue problem as well bruh bruh.

Not as much as we have a government waste problem.

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#20 scoots9
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What's patriotic at all about paying taxes?

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#21 yellosnolvr
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only if it would do any good. in other words: no.
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#22 Abbeten
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[QUOTE="Abbeten"][QUOTE="ristactionjakso"]

Government nickles and dimes families to much in my opinion. Especially since the economy is so bad that I had to find a new minimum wage job after losing my construction job.

Besides, they would waste the tax revenue anyway. They are a bunch of incompetent a holes that should lower their paychecks and pay more taxes themselves. Some of them just don't pay taxes at all. Government is the main reason for America's problems, why should I trust them to do what's right with more taxes?

Tax revenue isn't the problem, we could send all the money every single American makes to Government and it still wouldn't pay off our debt. We don't have a revenue problem, ITS A GOVERNMENT SPENDING PROBLEM.

ristactionjakso

i like posts like these. they read like he just reached into a bag and grabbed out prewritten sentences at random. anyway, we totally have a revenue problem as well bruh bruh.

Not as much as we have a government waste problem.

my form response being

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#23 Laihendi
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What's patriotic at all about paying taxes?

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I have no idea, I was just mocking Joe Biden who thinks it is for some reason.
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#24 Shadowchronicle
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No wonder why middle class wants rich to pay taxes.
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#25 SUD123456
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TC is such a fool he doesn't realize his thread/OP is the very reason his political philosophy, especially his personal view on taxation, is absurdly broken.

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#26 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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OT's liberatarians have convinced me that paying taxes is wrong, and that the US government has no idea what to do with the money it collects.

/sarcasm

I would be glad to pay a little more in teaxes if it means helping others get healthcare, improve infrastructure, lower the debt, etc.

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#27 Laihendi
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TC is such a fool he doesn't realize his thread/OP is the very reason his political philosophy, especially his personal view on taxation, is absurdly broken.

SUD123456
Please explain how. I don't want to pay more taxes because I don't want to fund unnecessary wars, government welfare programs, and bailouts for failing companies. I would say that this thread makes the liberal majority here look like fools, considering that 79% of OT thinks the government should provide free healthcare, while only 17% think they should pay more taxes.
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[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

TC is such a fool he doesn't realize his thread/OP is the very reason his political philosophy, especially his personal view on taxation, is absurdly broken.

Laihendi

Please explain how. I don't want to pay more taxes because I don't want to fund unnecessary wars, government welfare programs, and bailouts for failing companies. I would say that this thread makes the liberal majority here look like fools, considering that 79% of OT thinks the government should provide free healthcare, while only 17% think they should pay more taxes.

Such wishful thinking.

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#29 Ace6301
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I personally would be down for that if we stopped cutting important things in favor of stupid things.
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#30 johnd13
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We' re paying just enough to remain middle-classed. More taxes could easily change this negatively.

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#31 LJS9502_basic
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I pay what I'm supposed to pay.....
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#32 Slashless
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I personally would be down for that if we stopped cutting important things in favor of stupid things.Ace6301
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#33 CHOASXIII
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I think I pay enough taxes.

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#34 Laihendi
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[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="SUD123456"]

TC is such a fool he doesn't realize his thread/OP is the very reason his political philosophy, especially his personal view on taxation, is absurdly broken.

jimkabrhel

Please explain how. I don't want to pay more taxes because I don't want to fund unnecessary wars, government welfare programs, and bailouts for failing companies. I would say that this thread makes the liberal majority here look like fools, considering that 79% of OT thinks the government should provide free healthcare, while only 17% think they should pay more taxes.

Such wishful thinking.

Please explain how it is not foolish to think the government should provide "free" healthcare for everyone, and yet be opposed to paying increased taxes despite that fact that we are having ~1 trillion dollar deficits every year.
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#35 br0kenrabbit
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[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

I make several times more than my parents but pay less % in taxes because my money comes from annuities and dividends.

Yes, I should be paying more. It's a joke.

I could probably get by paying even less if I felt like looking for every tax break I can hide behind.

thegerg

Then why don't you pay more?

Read my second post.

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#36 theone86
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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"] Please explain how. I don't want to pay more taxes because I don't want to fund unnecessary wars, government welfare programs, and bailouts for failing companies. I would say that this thread makes the liberal majority here look like fools, considering that 79% of OT thinks the government should provide free healthcare, while only 17% think they should pay more taxes.Laihendi

Such wishful thinking.

Please explain how it is not foolish to think the government should provide "free" healthcare for everyone, and yet be opposed to paying increased taxes despite that fact that we are having ~1 trillion dollar deficits every year.

For one, you're using shock numbers, we could run up the defecit by a decent amount more than we are and still be at an acceptable amount as a percentage of GDP. Two, the title is asking if they individually should pay more taxes, which could mean they believe people who earn more than them should pay more taxes. Three, the amount of people who voted no surely includes conservatives who dislike paying current tax rates and would disagree with single-payer healthcare. Four, one of the major inefficiencies in government is rising health care costs, which a non for profit system could help address. Five, taxation is at its lowest rates in decades and could easily be raised to pay for a single-payer system without causing major economic problems.

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#37 Zeviander
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Please explain how it is not foolish to think the government should provide "free" healthcare for everyone, and yet be opposed to paying increased taxes despite that fact that we are having ~1 trillion dollar deficits every year.Laihendi
Let the government figure it out. It's not our responsibility.
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#38 famicommander
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What an absurd notion. Every taxpayer in the history of the world has paid far too much in taxes. It's armed robbery on the most massive scale imaginable.
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#40 SpartanMSU
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OT's liberatarians have convinced me that paying taxes is wrong, and that the US government has no idea what to do with the money it collects.

/sarcasm

I would be glad to pay a little more in teaxes if it means helping others get healthcare, improve infrastructure, lower the debt, etc.

jimkabrhel

Then do it.

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#41 br0kenrabbit
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That doesn't answer the question. You feel that you should give more to the state. Why don't you? thegerg

It absolutely does answer your question if you'd bother to read it. Here again:

The problem with giving it to Uncle Sam isn't the intent, as I agree with social saftey nets for those who really can't help themselves, but thebureaucracywill eat up 3/4th of every dollar I send before it even gets put to use.br0kenrabbit


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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

OT's liberatarians have convinced me that paying taxes is wrong, and that the US government has no idea what to do with the money it collects.

/sarcasm

I would be glad to pay a little more in teaxes if it means helping others get healthcare, improve infrastructure, lower the debt, etc.

SpartanMSU

Then do it.

I am. I voted for Barack Obama.

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[QUOTE="SpartanMSU"]

[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

OT's liberatarians have convinced me that paying taxes is wrong, and that the US government has no idea what to do with the money it collects.

/sarcasm

I would be glad to pay a little more in teaxes if it means helping others get healthcare, improve infrastructure, lower the debt, etc.

jimkabrhel

Then do it.

I am. I voted for Barack Obama.

So you're the top 2% of income earners?

You can still pay more, regardless.

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[QUOTE="thegerg"]That doesn't answer the question. You feel that you should give more to the state. Why don't you? br0kenrabbit

It absolutely does answer your question if you'd bother to read it. Here again:

The problem with giving it to Uncle Sam isn't the intent, as I agree with social saftey nets for those who really can't help themselves, but thebureaucracywill eat up 3/4th of every dollar I send before it even gets put to use.br0kenrabbit


Well, going by you're made up statistic, 1/4 will still be used. So, by paying more in taxes, you are still helping.

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No, and no.
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#47 br0kenrabbit
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Inefficient government spending in no way disallows you from sending the state more money. Why don't you do it?thegerg

I just told you why.

Have you ever filed taxes? Do you know what they do when you overpay your taxes? What the hell do you think people get excited for around April?

If I sent extra money in to the IRS and told them to keep it, they can't just add it to my 'account' and pass it along as tax income. It'd go in as an overpayment and I'd be refunded. If I didn't cash the check I'd have a balance on my next years taxes. Have you any idea how these things work?

If they actually raised taxes on my bracket, then we're good to go.

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[QUOTE="thegerg"]Inefficient government spending in no way disallows you from sending the state more money. Why don't you do it?br0kenrabbit

I just told you why.

Have you ever filed taxes? Do you know what they do when you overpay your taxes? What the hell do you think people get excited for around April?

If I sent extra money in to the IRS and told them to keep it, they can't just add it to my 'account' and pass it along as tax income. It'd go in as an overpayment and I'd be refunded. If I didn't cash the check I'd have a balance on my next years taxes. Have you any idea how these things work?

If they actually raised taxes on my bracket, then we're good to go.

That's not how you donate money. You basically write a check to the Treasury. And yes, people do it every year.