Do you think you/your family should pay more taxes?

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="thegerg"] Inefficient government spending in no way disallows you from sending the state more money. Why don't you do it?thegerg

I just told you why.

Have you ever filed taxes? Do you know what they do when you overpay your taxes? What the hell do you think people get excited for around April?

If I sent extra money in to the IRS and told them to keep it, they can't just add it to my 'account' and pass it along as tax income. It'd go in as an overpayment and I'd be refunded. If I didn't cash the check I'd have a balance on my next years taxes. Have you any idea how these things work?

If they actually raised taxes on my bracket, then we're good to go.

I never said they didn't spend it as I wish, simply that cents on the dollar would actually be put to work. And it's true when speaking of just a single individual, because you still have to process that money and that costs money.

If tens of thousands were doing it, then the scale is different: it still costs money to process that money, but since it's now being processed in bulk the cost is greatly reduced.

If they raise taxes, as they should, I'll be happy to pay. Until that time, I can put the whole dollar to work by doing the handing out myself.

[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

TC is such a fool he doesn't realize his thread/OP is the very reason his political philosophy, especially his personal view on taxation, is absurdly broken.

Laihendi

You are the one who believes taxes should be voluntary. The fact that virtually nobody wants their own taxes raised is precisely the point on why your political philosophy and tax beliefs are utter horseh*t.

Do you not grasp the most basic simple concepts of collective action problems and free ridership?

Having said that, you don't even grasp that every person arguing for universal healthcare access could very well believe everything in your first line...only they might deprioritize other additional things in order to fund healthcare.

I wish they didn't have to pay taxes.

Our income tax structure has an absurdly small number of brackets and a very low top bracket, I'd rather extend the number of brackets and making the marginal tax rates more progressive to solve our deficit problem.

No.

We're a middle class family that just gets by as it is.

No.

We're a middle class family that just gets by as it is.

Optical_Order

No, Middle and Lower class should pay less taxes. If I had the magical ability to choose US taxe rate: <20k = 10% 20-40k = 15% 40-60k = 20% 60-90k = 25% 90-150k = 30% 150-180k = 35% 180- 200k = 40% 200k-400k = 45% 400k-1mil = 50% 1mil+ = 55% etcYoshiYogurt

Good thing you don't havve magical abilities then. Also good that your vision for America is in the extreme minority.

No, I think we pay an appropriate amount.

[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]

Such wishful thinking.

theone86

For one, you're using shock numbers, we could run up the defecit by a decent amount more than we are and still be at an acceptable amount as a percentage of GDP. Two, the title is asking if they individually should pay more taxes, which could mean they believe people who earn more than them should pay more taxes. Three, the amount of people who voted no surely includes conservatives who dislike paying current tax rates and would disagree with single-payer healthcare. Four, one of the major inefficiencies in government is rising health care costs, which a non for profit system could help address. Five, taxation is at its lowest rates in decades and could easily be raised to pay for a single-payer system without causing major economic problems.

[QUOTE="theone86"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"] Please explain how it is not foolish to think the government should provide "free" healthcare for everyone, and yet be opposed to paying increased taxes despite that fact that we are having ~1 trillion dollar deficits every year.Laihendi

For one, you're using shock numbers, we could run up the defecit by a decent amount more than we are and still be at an acceptable amount as a percentage of GDP. Two, the title is asking if they individually should pay more taxes, which could mean they believe people who earn more than them should pay more taxes. Three, the amount of people who voted no surely includes conservatives who dislike paying current tax rates and would disagree with single-payer healthcare. Four, one of the major inefficiencies in government is rising health care costs, which a non for profit system could help address. Five, taxation is at its lowest rates in decades and could easily be raised to pay for a single-payer system without causing major economic problems.

:| Yeah it may seem that way if you have no clue what your talking about.. A singlepayer system would end up costing people less overall regardless if taxes raised simply due to the fact their health costs would lower overall..

[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="theone86"]

For one, you're using shock numbers, we could run up the defecit by a decent amount more than we are and still be at an acceptable amount as a percentage of GDP. Two, the title is asking if they individually should pay more taxes, which could mean they believe people who earn more than them should pay more taxes. Three, the amount of people who voted no surely includes conservatives who dislike paying current tax rates and would disagree with single-payer healthcare. Four, one of the major inefficiencies in government is rising health care costs, which a non for profit system could help address. Five, taxation is at its lowest rates in decades and could easily be raised to pay for a single-payer system without causing major economic problems.

sSubZerOo

:| Yeah it may seem that way if you have no clue what your talking about.. A singlepayer system would end up costing people less overall regardless if taxes raised simply due to the fact their health costs would lower overall..

Cents on the dollar actually being put to work in no way disallows you from giving more money. If you want to give the state more of your money, why don't you?thegerg

If tens of thousands were doing it, then the scale is different: it still costs money to process that money, but since it's now being processed in bulk the cost is greatly reduced.

If they raise taxes, as they should, I'll be happy to pay. Until that time, I can put the whole dollar to work by doing the handing out myself.

br0kenrabbit

[QUOTE="thegerg"]Cents on the dollar actually being put to work in no way disallows you from giving more money. If you want to give the state more of your money, why don't you?br0kenrabbit

If tens of thousands were doing it, then the scale is different: it still costs money to process that money, but since it's now being processed in bulk the cost is greatly reduced.

If they raise taxes, as they should, I'll be happy to pay. Until that time, I can put the whole dollar to work by doing the handing out myself.

br0kenrabbit

$26 million was donated last year. There is a process. Please, stop making excuses.

That is not stopping you from paying more either. Stop making excuses. If you really want to give the state more money, just do it. thegerg

$26 million was donated last year. There is a process. Please, stop making excuses.

SpartanMSU

$26 million is pennies. Have you looked at the budget?

I don't like wasting money. If taxes were raised on my bracket, I'd happily pay because more of that money would be put to work as everyone in my bracket would be paying. As it stands, throwing money at a hope and a wish doesn't count for much, now does it?

Edit: WTF is up with GS breaking quote chains lately?

That is not stopping you from paying more either. Stop making excuses. If you really want to give the state more money, just do it. thegerg

Is it physically stopping me? No, of course not. But do I have better sense? Aboslutely.

Middle class family and we barely get by some months.

Do you wan to give more money or not? Nothing is stopping yo from doing what you want except for you. If you really want to give more then do it.thegerg

If tens of thousands were doing it, then the scale is different: it still costs money to process that money, but since it's now being processed in bulk the cost is greatly reduced.

If they raise taxes, as they should, I'll be happy to pay. Until that time, I can put the whole dollar to work by doing the handing out myself.br0kenrabbit

Anyone who thinks they should be paying more taxes to this bloated, mismanaged government (U.S.) needs their head inspected.

In other words, you don't really want to give more.thegerg

If they raise taxes, as they should, I'll be happy to pay. Until that time, I can put the whole dollar to work by doing the handing out myself.br0kenrabbit

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[QUOTE="thegerg"]In other words, you don't really want to give more.br0kenrabbit

If they raise taxes, as they should, I'll be happy to pay. Until that time, I can put the whole dollar to work by doing the handing out myself.br0kenrabbit

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[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]

[QUOTE="thegerg"]

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]If they raise taxes, as they should, I'll be happy to pay. Until that time, I can put the whole dollar to work by doing the handing out myself.LJS9502_basic

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I don't think you people have ever worked with economies of scale in your life.

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I don't think you people have ever worked with economies of scale in your life.:roll:br0kenrabbit

I'd love to earn more even if that means paying more in taxes.lamprey263

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]I don't think you people have ever worked with economies of scale in your life.:roll:LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="lamprey263"]I'd love to earn more even if that means paying more in taxes.Yusuke420

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

[QUOTE="lamprey263"]I'd love to earn more even if that means paying more in taxes.Laihendi

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

[QUOTE="lamprey263"]I'd love to earn more even if that means paying more in taxes.Laihendi

[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="Yusuke420"] This, I find it very amusing that people with million ae **** about money, you're a millionare son, you already made it. Shell out some cash so other people can get to your level!

Yusuke420

[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="Yusuke420"] This, I find it very amusing that people with million ae **** about money, you're a millionare son, you already made it. Shell out some cash so other people can get to your level!

Yusuke420

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

[QUOTE="Laihendi"] Or instead of demanding that people give you what they earned for themselves, you could earn your own money.Laihendi

Do you answer questions or only ask them? I believe you were asked if you earned your money.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]I don't think you people have ever worked with economies of scale in your life.:roll:Ace6301