Does anyone in here likes Black Metal?

[QUOTE="pikma"][QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="pikma"][QUOTE="GodLovesDead"][QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="GodLovesDead"]

[QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="Vfanek"]Don't diss early Dimmu (For All Tid, Stormblast (remastered isn't bad either)). But Cradle? They're just ****.MissRiotmaker

Cradle of Filth may be okay pop-gothic metal or whatever. But compared to the standards of black metal, they are awful. The only thing good to come from Dimmu is Stormblast. For All Tid is too cheesey and misses the mark. Cradle hasn't really done anything for black metal.

[QUOTE="MissRiotmaker"][QUOTE="Vfanek"]Don't diss early Dimmu (For All Tid, Stormblast (remastered isn't bad either)). But Cradle? They're just ****.GodLovesDead

Cradle of Filth may be okay pop-gothic metal or whatever. But compared to the standards of black metal, they are awful. The only thing good to come from Dimmu is Stormblast. For All Tid is too cheesey and misses the mark. Cradle hasn't really done anything for black metal.

Cradle of Filth is trash. Black metal is beautiful artistic music. I don't feel like going into a huge argument about this, but I'm sure I could direct you to forums full of people who study metal as an art form and would love to tell you why Cradle of Filth is terrible. You can like them, listen to them, etc. but you should realize bands like Bathory and Burzum have much more to them than a band like Cradle of Filth.

Nope cant say that I am a fan since I never heard of them before.RenegadePatriot

It's a genre, not a band.

Immortal FTWkruesader

hehehe good band

There is many bands I like.

Catamenia,

Ulver,

Emperor,

Immortal,

Wolves in the throne room,

Woods of Ypres,

Naglefar,

Impalez Nazarene,

Gorgoroth,

Misteltein and others

i'll add 2 great bands that i like.

xasthur

forgotten tomb

\m/ :twisted: \m/

anyone like Behemoth?-Sniper99-

of course, but they're a death metal band.

Is the CoF discussion still going on? :Plancelot200

[QUOTE="-Sniper99-"]anyone like Behemoth?spierdalaj666

of course, but they're a death metal band.

What is it you guys like in Black Metal? I listen to the music and find nothing interesting or good about it. It's just growling and beating on drums like gorillas. I just can't figure out why people like it so much.

Enlighten me.

What is it you guys like in Black Metal? I listen to the music and find nothing interesting or good about it. It's just growling and beating on drums like gorillas. I just can't figure out why people like it so much.

Enlighten me.

Zaeryn

actually, some of it is pretty mellow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tkKRqKp9Gw

anyone like Behemoth?-Sniper99-

[QUOTE="Zaeryn"]

What is it you guys like in Black Metal? I listen to the music and find nothing interesting or good about it. It's just growling and beating on drums like gorillas. I just can't figure out why people like it so much.

Enlighten me.

LoG-Sacrament

actually, some of it is pretty mellow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tkKRqKp9Gw

[QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"][QUOTE="Zaeryn"]

What is it you guys like in Black Metal? I listen to the music and find nothing interesting or good about it. It's just growling and beating on drums like gorillas. I just can't figure out why people like it so much.

Enlighten me.

Zaeryn

actually, some of it is pretty mellow.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tkKRqKp9Gw

nile is a death metal band. i never got into nile much myself, so i couldnt explain it as well as others. but when you asked about black metal, i figured id show you another side to it.

Maybe a bad example then. Or maybe I'm just not exactly sure of the difference between the two. I'm 90% sure Black Metal is pretty identical to death metal. So, what exactly is the difference? :|Zaeryn

the easiest way to tell is the vocals. the low gutteral growls belong to death metal, while the high screeches belong to black metal. beyond that, theres lyrical themes. death metal lyrics are about death (duh :P ) and accompanying topics while black metal lyrics are generally rooted in satanism and some paganism.

Nope, I cant say I am.

Im more into speed and power metal.

Neontope

Me too.

What is it you guys like in Black Metal? I listen to the music and find nothing interesting or good about it. It's just growling and beating on drums like gorillas. I just can't figure out why people like it so much.

Enlighten me.

Zaeryn

I just find the way everything done amazing to my ears it's as simple as that. It's the whole atmosphere of it. I love it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBwu83RR6ZU

Maybe a bad example then. Or maybe I'm just not exactly sure of the difference between the two. I'm 90% sure Black Metal is pretty identical to death metal. So, what exactly is the difference? :|Zaeryn

I honestly can't see how one can't see the difference between the 2. They're 2 equally extreme forms of metal but so drastically different.

[QUOTE="Zaeryn"]Maybe a bad example then. Or maybe I'm just not exactly sure of the difference between the two. I'm 90% sure Black Metal is pretty identical to death metal. So, what exactly is the difference? :|NecroKvltMuffin

I honestly can't see how one can't see the difference between the 2. They're 2 equally extreme forms of metal but so drastically different.

One of the main differences I notice is the forms of vocals. In Death Metal, it's usually Gunting and Growling, and in Melodic Death Metal, there's ocassionally clean vocals. Black metal however, has mor screams and shrieks. If you really want to hear the difference, listen to Dark Tranquility and then listen to some early Mayhem....

anyone who says bands like burzum, mayhem or darkthrone have more talent than cradle of filth clearly hasnt mastered any instruments in their life.

Cradle of Filth may not be "black metal" (who cares anyway honestly?) but they definately arent a bad band, and I would absolutely adore anyone on this forum to write their own song and have it be even half as good as a cradle song. Im not talking about damnation and a day and on either.

the bottom line is this.... Black metal is cool and all... but it does NOT take a lot of talen to make. thats why theres more joke black metal bands than any other genre (exluding maybe hardcore) Black metal is slightly more advanced than Crust Punk.

Im not saying burzum, mayhem or darkthrone are bad bands (actually out of all three darkthrone is the only one thats musically good in my opinion) but NONE of them hold a candle stick to COF. I hate mallgoths as much as the next guy, but cradle of filth are talented musicians (you not liking them is cant take that away from them ever). Bands like mayhem have been notorious for not beingcapable of playing venom covers correctly. THAT IS SAD.

ive played in a band that did some light touring. im going to get a job as a guitar teacher soon and i was trained by someone who if I told you the projects hes worked on you wouldnt believe me.

who am i kidding, everyone who says they hate the band in this thread probably has all their cds.... ha

Maybe a bad example then. Or maybe I'm just not exactly sure of the difference between the two. I'm 90% sure Black Metal is pretty identical to death metal. So, what exactly is the difference? :|Zaeryn

I love Behemoth...I think they're amazing. That's the only BM band I like, though.

I don't listen to black metal much but I like Darkthrone, Burzum, and immortal.stormtrooper32

I personally find Soulside Journey to be Darkthrones only good album.

anyone who says bands like burzum, mayhem or darkthrone have more talent than cradle of filth clearly hasnt mastered any instruments in their life.

Cradle of Filth may not be "black metal" (who cares anyway honestly?) but they definately arent a bad band, and I would absolutely adore anyone on this forum to write their own song and have it be even half as good as a cradle song. Im not talking about damnation and a day and on either.

the bottom line is this.... Black metal is cool and all... but it does NOT take a lot of talen to make. thats why theres more joke black metal bands than any other genre (exluding maybe hardcore) Black metal is slightly more advanced than Crust Punk.

Im not saying burzum, mayhem or darkthrone are bad bands (actually out of all three darkthrone is the only one thats musically good in my opinion) but NONE of them hold a candle stick to COF. I hate mallgoths as much as the next guy, but cradle of filth are talented musicians (you not liking them is cant take that away from them ever). Bands like mayhem have been notorious for not beingcapable of playing venom covers correctly. THAT IS SAD.

ive played in a band that did some light touring. im going to get a job as a guitar teacher soon and i was trained by someone who if I told you the projects hes worked on you wouldnt believe me.

who am i kidding, everyone who says they hate the band in this thread probably has all their cds.... ha

H8sMikeMoore

[QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"][QUOTE="Zaeryn"]

What is it you guys like in Black Metal? I listen to the music and find nothing interesting or good about it. It's just growling and beating on drums like gorillas. I just can't figure out why people like it so much.

Enlighten me.

Zaeryn

actually, some of it is pretty mellow.

It's called acquiring a taste in music. All black metal and death metal has melody. You guys just hear drums and complex timing and you go "omg i cant hear a distinguishable melody on my first listen! its not music!".

[QUOTE="Zaeryn"]Maybe a bad example then. Or maybe I'm just not exactly sure of the difference between the two. I'm 90% sure Black Metal is pretty identical to death metal. So, what exactly is the difference? :|NecroKvltMuffin

I honestly can't see how one can't see the difference between the 2. They're 2 equally extreme forms of metal but so drastically different.

If someone can't tell the difference, there are probably tone-deaf or they just don't have well-trained ears. Not like either matters though. It's probably pure ignorance.

actually, now that I think about it, if you think you don't need that much talent to make Black Metal
well, that's pure ignorance
pikma

how is it pure ignorance, are you even a musician? how would you know? black metal was the first kind of music i was able to play.

let me breakdown black metal for you:

1. Learn power chords

2. Learn harmonic minor scale SHAPE (notice i said shape, not the actual scale its self)

3 tremelo pick power chords often, usually minor intervals.

thats all of black metal summed up buddy. its not hard. granted theres some bands who take it a bit farther. but you can tell 90% of all the bands follow those three rules to the death. NOT hard.

[QUOTE="pikma"]actually, now that I think about it, if you think you don't need that much talent to make Black Metal
well, that's pure ignorance
H8sMikeMoore

how is it pure ignorance, are you even a musician? how would you know? black metal was the first kind of music i was able to play.

let me breakdown black metal for you:

1. Learn power chords

2. Learn harmonic minor scale SHAPE (notice i said shape, not the actual scale its self)

3 tremelo pick power chords often, usually minor intervals.

thats all of black metal summed up buddy. its not hard. granted theres some bands who take it a bit farther. but you can tell 90% of all the bands follow those three rules to the death. NOT hard.

Making and writing /=/ playing. Fail.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="pikma"]actually, now that I think about it, if you think you don't need that much talent to make Black Metal
well, that's pure ignorance
GodLovesDead

how is it pure ignorance, are you even a musician? how would you know? black metal was the first kind of music i was able to play.

let me breakdown black metal for you:

1. Learn power chords

2. Learn harmonic minor scale SHAPE (notice i said shape, not the actual scale its self)

3 tremelo pick power chords often, usually minor intervals.

thats all of black metal summed up buddy. its not hard. granted theres some bands who take it a bit farther. but you can tell 90% of all the bands follow those three rules to the death. NOT hard.

Making and writing /=/ playing. Fail.

Actually I believe I won this thread. So, you're welcome to a round 2 if you'd like. you "fail"

[QUOTE="pikma"]actually, now that I think about it, if you think you don't need that much talent to make Black Metal
well, that's pure ignorance
H8sMikeMoore

how is it pure ignorance, are you even a musician? how would you know? black metal was the first kind of music i was able to play.

let me breakdown black metal for you:

1. Learn power chords

2. Learn harmonic minor scale SHAPE (notice i said shape, not the actual scale its self)

3 tremelo pick power chords often, usually minor intervals.

thats all of black metal summed up buddy. its not hard. granted theres some bands who take it a bit farther. but you can tell 90% of all the bands follow those three rules to the death. NOT hard.