About the mother who they arrested 2 years ago and have in court about her daughter, who they're trying to figure out was murdered or had an accident ?
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About the mother who they arrested 2 years ago and have in court about her daughter, who they're trying to figure out was murdered or had an accident ?
I've been following it a bit, although not as closely as other cases.
The grandmother's testimony yesterday about the Google searches was a bit strange, although parts of it made sense to me.
My opinion thus far is the mom is as guilty as the day is long.
I assumed that the grandmother was trying to protect her daughter from being guilty. She would rather try to put it as it was an accident than try to say her own daughter murdered her child. That's my assumption.I've been following it a bit, although not as closely as other cases.
The grandmother's testimony yesterday about the Google searches was a bit strange, although parts of it made sense to me.
My opinion thus far is the mom is as guilty as the day is long.
YellowOneKinobi
[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]I assumed that the grandmother was trying to protect her daughter from being guilty. She would rather try to put it as it was an accident than try to say her own daughter murdered her child. That's my assumption. I wouldn't disagree with that.I've been following it a bit, although not as closely as other cases.
The grandmother's testimony yesterday about the Google searches was a bit strange, although parts of it made sense to me.
My opinion thus far is the mom is as guilty as the day is long.
Young_Charter
Actually, the way the grandmother described the reasons for looking up chlorophorm made some sense. There have been plenty of times when either my cats or my dogs are acting funny and I start googling things to see what it might be. I never looked up chlorophorm, but what she said about researching if there were any plants in her yard that contain it..... kinda made sense.
That has to be a tough spot. You love your kid and you also love your grandkid. Hard to say what one would do in that situation.
I just don't get it (as with so many other things).
My wife is pregnant with our first child. There is so much we are doing already to protect and nurture the kid. It goes soooooo beyond me when I contemplate how a mother could kill her own kid. I just don't get it.
Last i heard she was likely going to get away with it. The fact that people are talking about her possibly getting off clean pretty much confirms that the jury will be hung at the very least which means they will be doing this all over again anyway.
This s*** will be going on for the next couple years so you have plenty of time to pay attention if you are like me and have only heard about it in passing.
I assumed that the grandmother was trying to protect her daughter from being guilty. She would rather try to put it as it was an accident than try to say her own daughter murdered her child. That's my assumption. I wouldn't disagree with that.[QUOTE="Young_Charter"][QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]
I've been following it a bit, although not as closely as other cases.
The grandmother's testimony yesterday about the Google searches was a bit strange, although parts of it made sense to me.
My opinion thus far is the mom is as guilty as the day is long.
YellowOneKinobi
Actually, the way the grandmother described the reasons for looking up chlorophorm made some sense. There have been plenty of times when either my cats or my dogs are acting funny and I start googling things to see what it might be. I never looked up chlorophorm, but what she said about researching if there were any plants in her yard that contain it..... kinda made sense.
That has to be a tough spot. You love your kid and you also love your grandkid. Hard to say what one would do in that situation.
Welp I think the Grandmother would want to be responsible then if anything from what I am seeing.[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]I wouldn't disagree with that.[QUOTE="Young_Charter"] I assumed that the grandmother was trying to protect her daughter from being guilty. She would rather try to put it as it was an accident than try to say her own daughter murdered her child. That's my assumption. Young_Charter
Actually, the way the grandmother described the reasons for looking up chlorophorm made some sense. There have been plenty of times when either my cats or my dogs are acting funny and I start googling things to see what it might be. I never looked up chlorophorm, but what she said about researching if there were any plants in her yard that contain it..... kinda made sense.
That has to be a tough spot. You love your kid and you also love your grandkid. Hard to say what one would do in that situation.
Welp I think the Grandmother would want to be responsible then if anything from what I am seeing. You mean, Granny will try to take the fall for it?I haven't heard a word about it since I left Florida a couple years back, when they were still searching for the girls body, and the mother was switching up her story. It was very weird watching the events unfold. The mother and the grandmother are an odd couple to say the least.
[QUOTE="YellowOneKinobi"]I assumed that the grandmother was trying to protect her daughter from being guilty. She would rather try to put it as it was an accident than try to say her own daughter murdered her child. That's my assumption. I disagree. Because some of the stuff she has testified to hurts her daughter's case. So I think she's telling the truth as she knows it.I've been following it a bit, although not as closely as other cases.
The grandmother's testimony yesterday about the Google searches was a bit strange, although parts of it made sense to me.
My opinion thus far is the mom is as guilty as the day is long.
Young_Charter
For example... when they were talking about the Google searches, she said she was the one who did searches for chloroform and neck breaking. But she said she did NOT, however, search for "how to make chloraform (sic)".
Some women suffer from post traumatic stress disorder after giving birth. I'm not saying that this lady had PTSD but it does play a big role in why some mothers kill their babies.I just don't get it (as with so many other things).
My wife is pregnant with our first child. There is so much we are doing already to protect and nurture the kid. It goes soooooo beyond me when I contemplate how a mother could kill her own kid. I just don't get it.
YellowOneKinobi
i been following it, if i was on the jury i would already have had my mind made up already, guilty. You don't go about your day like nothing happens while your daughter is missing, entering hot body contests and then she lied to everyone about the nanny and working at universal studios, she's a liar, then she threw her brother and her father under the bus, maybe they did molest her but i find it funny she now brings its up when its most convient for her. She gets away with this then the system is flawed.
my dad has watched a lot of it, so i know about it :P
it's beyond that spme people say she might go free :?
I'm glad you aren't a juror. Those things say nothing about anything. All it says is that she's acted weird. But if you've listened to witness testimony, you would have found out that she has been lying about things all her life... things that she didn't even need to lie about. For example, the nanny. She didn't just make up that nanny after Caylee was "missing". She just did that randomly over a year before. You have to look objectively and say, ok, yea, she acted weird, but that isn't something special for her... she's always acted weird. Then you got to say, ok, now what evidence do they have that SHE killed his little girl. And there really isn't much actually linking her hand to Caylee.i been following it, if i was on the jury i would already have had my mind made up already, guilty. You don't go about your day like nothing happens while your daughter is missing, entering hot body contests and then she lied to everyone about the nanny and working at universal studios, she's a liar, then she threw her brother and her father under the bus, maybe they did molest her but i find it funny she now brings its up when its most convient for her. She gets away with this then the system is flawed.
Chris_Williams
[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]I'm glad you aren't a juror. Those things say nothing about anything. All it says is that she's acted weird.i been following it, if i was on the jury i would already have had my mind made up already, guilty. You don't go about your day like nothing happens while your daughter is missing, entering hot body contests and then she lied to everyone about the nanny and working at universal studios, she's a liar, then she threw her brother and her father under the bus, maybe they did molest her but i find it funny she now brings its up when its most convient for her. She gets away with this then the system is flawed.
BMD004
if she lied about multiple things before, what says she is telling the truth now?
I only glance at an article every few days or so, I don't spend any time actually sitting down to watch the case. The case was on TV when I grabbed breakfast in Burger King on Wednesday but I paid it no mind. It's not my job to watch it because I'm not a juror on the case who will decide her fate. To be honest, it wouldn't surprise me if all of the evidence pointed to her being innocent and she was still found guilty out of emotion just because they felt they needed somebody to blame.
Not saying she's innocent, but in situations like this I doubt the jurors want to be criticized after the case for letting her go when so many people feel she's guilty.I just hope she gets what she deserves. As in if she's guilty she's found guilty and if she's innocent she is found innocent. The bad thing is if she really is innocent and is acquitted I can almost guarantee she'll have to go in hiding due to the people who will still feel she's guilty and will want to take justice in their own hands.
I'm glad you aren't a juror. Those things say nothing about anything. All it says is that she's acted weird.[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]
i been following it, if i was on the jury i would already have had my mind made up already, guilty. You don't go about your day like nothing happens while your daughter is missing, entering hot body contests and then she lied to everyone about the nanny and working at universal studios, she's a liar, then she threw her brother and her father under the bus, maybe they did molest her but i find it funny she now brings its up when its most convient for her. She gets away with this then the system is flawed.
munchlax99
if she lied about multiple things before, what says she is telling the truth now?
Maybe she's only lying because she's afraid that the way things looked would get her convicted.[QUOTE="munchlax99"]
[QUOTE="BMD004"]I'm glad you aren't a juror. Those things say nothing about anything. All it says is that she's acted weird. BranKetra
if she lied about multiple things before, what says she is telling the truth now?
Maybe she's only lying because she's afraid that the way things looked would get her convict.yes, that would be the reason of her lying -_-
I'm glad you aren't a juror. Those things say nothing about anything. All it says is that she's acted weird.[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]
i been following it, if i was on the jury i would already have had my mind made up already, guilty. You don't go about your day like nothing happens while your daughter is missing, entering hot body contests and then she lied to everyone about the nanny and working at universal studios, she's a liar, then she threw her brother and her father under the bus, maybe they did molest her but i find it funny she now brings its up when its most convient for her. She gets away with this then the system is flawed.
munchlax99
if she lied about multiple things before, what says she is telling the truth now?
Nothing. But that isn't the point. She doesn't have to prove a damn thing. It's up to the prosecution to provide evidence of her guilt.Most of the jurors didn't know much of anything at all, if anything, before they were called to jury duty. That is what the whole jury selection process was about. So they don't really know the general public's opinion. They went in there as a clean slate and an open mind.I only glance at an article every few days or so, I don't spend any time actually sitting down to watch the case. The case was on TV when I grabbed breakfast in Burger King on Wednesday but I paid it no mind. It's not my job to watch it because I'm not a juror on the case who will decide her fate. To be honest, it wouldn't surprise me if all of the evidence pointed to her being innocent and she was still found guilty out of emotion just because they felt they needed somebody to blame.
Not saying she's innocent, but in situations like this I doubt the jurors want to be criticized after the case for letting her go when so many people feel she's guilty.I just hope she gets what she deserves. As in if she's guilty she's found guilty and if she's innocent she is found innocent. The bad thing is if she really is innocent and is acquitted I can almost guarantee she'll have to go in hiding due to the people who will still feel she's guilty and will want to take justice in their own hands.
ad1x2
Maybe she's only lying because she's afraid that the way things looked would get her convict.[QUOTE="BranKetra"]
[QUOTE="munchlax99"]
if she lied about multiple things before, what says she is telling the truth now?
munchlax99
yes, that would be the reason of her lying -_-
Cynicism? If I were a part of the jury, I would want to know every possibilty. That doesn't mean I would lose my humanity.[QUOTE="munchlax99"][QUOTE="BMD004"]I'm glad you aren't a juror. Those things say nothing about anything. All it says is that she's acted weird. BMD004
if she lied about multiple things before, what says she is telling the truth now?
Nothing. But that isn't the point. She doesn't have to prove a damn thing. It's up to the prosecution to provide evidence of her guilt.yes, but the prosecutuion could use her lies against her :P
Nothing. But that isn't the point. She doesn't have to prove a damn thing. It's up to the prosecution to provide evidence of her guilt.[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="munchlax99"]
if she lied about multiple things before, what says she is telling the truth now?
munchlax99
yes, but the prosecutuion could use her lies against her :P
Not really. The defense claims that Caylee died by accident when she drowned in the pool. Casey and the dad, George, found her and panicked and tried to cover it up to make it look like a kidnapping. The prosecution claims that Caylee was murdered by Casey. The only problem is that they have no murder weapon. They don't know how the little girl died. They don't know where she died. They have nothing. There is nothing linking Casey to the murder of Caylee. And the prosecution has failed to prove that it was impossible for Caylee to have drowned in the pool by accident. So right now, it's the defense's word against the prosecution's. And in order to convict somebody, you have to convince the jury that they are guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt". And considering the prosecution has done nothing to disprove the defense's story, and haven't proven anything substantial themselves, I don't see how their case can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. She can go to jail for other things like obstruction of justice, child neglect, etc... but I don't see how Casey can be convicted of 1st degree murder.[QUOTE="munchlax99"]
[QUOTE="BMD004"]Nothing. But that isn't the point. She doesn't have to prove a damn thing. It's up to the prosecution to provide evidence of her guilt. BMD004
yes, but the prosecutuion could use her lies against her :P
Not really. The defense claims that Caylee died by accident when she drowned in the pool. Casey and the dad, George, found her and panicked and tried to cover it up to make it look like a kidnapping. The prosecution claims that Caylee was murdered by Casey. The only problem is that they have no murder weapon. They don't know how the little girl died. They don't know where she died. They have nothing. There is nothing linking Casey to the murder of Caylee. And the prosecution has failed to prove that it was impossible for Caylee to have drowned in the pool by accident. So right now, it's the defense's word against the prosecution's. And in order to convict somebody, you have to convince the jury that they are guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt". And considering the prosecution has done nothing to disprove the defense's story, and haven't proven anything substantial themselves, I don't see how their case can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. She can go to jail for other things like obstruction of justice, child neglect, etc... but I don't see how Casey can be convicted of 1st degree murder.you make some good points
what i don't understand, is how and why she was partying after she "knew" her daughter died :?
[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]I'm glad you aren't a juror. Those things say nothing about anything. All it says is that she's acted weird. But if you've listened to witness testimony, you would have found out that she has been lying about things all her life... things that she didn't even need to lie about. For example, the nanny. She didn't just make up that nanny after Caylee was "missing". She just did that randomly over a year before. You have to look objectively and say, ok, yea, she acted weird, but that isn't something special for her... she's always acted weird. Then you got to say, ok, now what evidence do they have that SHE killed his little girl. And there really isn't much actually linking her hand to Caylee. okay, so please explain to me why their is duct tape on the childs corpse? please explain to me why she's going clubbing when her daughter is missing and she doesn't know the whereabouts of her?.. things don't add up, even if she didn't kill her daughter, she still needs to be at fault for not reporting her death and trying to cover it up. also even if little caylee did drown you don't stuff your childs corpse in a car and you definetly don't keep it to yourself and not tell anyone. Even her own parents have said they don't believe she's innocent.i been following it, if i was on the jury i would already have had my mind made up already, guilty. You don't go about your day like nothing happens while your daughter is missing, entering hot body contests and then she lied to everyone about the nanny and working at universal studios, she's a liar, then she threw her brother and her father under the bus, maybe they did molest her but i find it funny she now brings its up when its most convient for her. She gets away with this then the system is flawed.
BMD004
Not really. The defense claims that Caylee died by accident when she drowned in the pool. Casey and the dad, George, found her and panicked and tried to cover it up to make it look like a kidnapping. The prosecution claims that Caylee was murdered by Casey. The only problem is that they have no murder weapon. They don't know how the little girl died. They don't know where she died. They have nothing. There is nothing linking Casey to the murder of Caylee. And the prosecution has failed to prove that it was impossible for Caylee to have drowned in the pool by accident. So right now, it's the defense's word against the prosecution's. And in order to convict somebody, you have to convince the jury that they are guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt". And considering the prosecution has done nothing to disprove the defense's story, and haven't proven anything substantial themselves, I don't see how their case can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. She can go to jail for other things like obstruction of justice, child neglect, etc... but I don't see how Casey can be convicted of 1st degree murder.[QUOTE="BMD004"]
[QUOTE="munchlax99"]
yes, but the prosecutuion could use her lies against her :P
munchlax99
you make some good points
what i don't understand, is how and why she was partying after she "knew" her daughter died :?
Who knows. My own personal theory is that she killer her by accident, then didn't know what to do so told herself she was going to act natural until she thought of a way out. So she was trying to act like everything was great... like nothing was wrong. But she didn't think ahead... she didn't realize how that would look after people found out. So she got caught. And now, looking back, it looks like she was having a good old time, and now that may come back to bite her.[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]I'm glad you aren't a juror. Those things say nothing about anything. All it says is that she's acted weird. But if you've listened to witness testimony, you would have found out that she has been lying about things all her life... things that she didn't even need to lie about. For example, the nanny. She didn't just make up that nanny after Caylee was "missing". She just did that randomly over a year before. You have to look objectively and say, ok, yea, she acted weird, but that isn't something special for her... she's always acted weird. Then you got to say, ok, now what evidence do they have that SHE killed his little girl. And there really isn't much actually linking her hand to Caylee. Ok lets say she is a risk taker and she is playing the long hand and her mother is a dingbat and her father is enjoying this. Is she gonna tell the truth when the chips are down?i been following it, if i was on the jury i would already have had my mind made up already, guilty. You don't go about your day like nothing happens while your daughter is missing, entering hot body contests and then she lied to everyone about the nanny and working at universal studios, she's a liar, then she threw her brother and her father under the bus, maybe they did molest her but i find it funny she now brings its up when its most convient for her. She gets away with this then the system is flawed.
BMD004
[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]I'm glad you aren't a juror. Those things say nothing about anything. All it says is that she's acted weird. But if you've listened to witness testimony, you would have found out that she has been lying about things all her life... things that she didn't even need to lie about. For example, the nanny. She didn't just make up that nanny after Caylee was "missing". She just did that randomly over a year before. You have to look objectively and say, ok, yea, she acted weird, but that isn't something special for her... she's always acted weird. Then you got to say, ok, now what evidence do they have that SHE killed his little girl. And there really isn't much actually linking her hand to Caylee. okay, so please explain to me why their is duct tape on the childs corpse? please explain to me why she's going clubbing when her daughter is missing and she doesn't know the whereabouts of her?.. things don't add up, even if she didn't kill her daughter, she still needs to be at fault for not reporting her death and trying to cover it up. I don't have the answers. Nobody does except for her. But the fact of the matter is that the prosecution has to PROVE that SHE killed her daughter. They have to prove it was her. Even IF duct tape was used to smother her, there is no proof that it was actually Casey that did it. My personal opinion is that her daughter died by accident, probably due to negligence, and Casey panicked. She didn't know what to do. So she resorted to what she does best: lying. So she told herself to act normal. She went out and partied like nothing was wrong until she thought of a plan of what to do. She was riding around with Caylee in the trunk until she figured something out. She eventually decided she would make it look like a kidnapping by putting duct tape over her mouth. Then, thinking she's clever, put a bag of trash in the trunk so that people would think that that is where the bad smell from the trunk was coming from. She had moments where she thought she was being clever, but it turned out to bite her in the ass. This is just my guess of what happened. I don't think Casey purposely killed her, and I don't think she drowned in the pool.i been following it, if i was on the jury i would already have had my mind made up already, guilty. You don't go about your day like nothing happens while your daughter is missing, entering hot body contests and then she lied to everyone about the nanny and working at universal studios, she's a liar, then she threw her brother and her father under the bus, maybe they did molest her but i find it funny she now brings its up when its most convient for her. She gets away with this then the system is flawed.
Chris_Williams
[QUOTE="BMD004"][QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]I'm glad you aren't a juror. Those things say nothing about anything. All it says is that she's acted weird. But if you've listened to witness testimony, you would have found out that she has been lying about things all her life... things that she didn't even need to lie about. For example, the nanny. She didn't just make up that nanny after Caylee was "missing". She just did that randomly over a year before. You have to look objectively and say, ok, yea, she acted weird, but that isn't something special for her... she's always acted weird. Then you got to say, ok, now what evidence do they have that SHE killed his little girl. And there really isn't much actually linking her hand to Caylee. Ok lets say she is a risk taker and she is playing the long hand and her mother is a dingbat and her father is enjoying this. Is she gonna tell the truth when the chips are down?Never.i been following it, if i was on the jury i would already have had my mind made up already, guilty. You don't go about your day like nothing happens while your daughter is missing, entering hot body contests and then she lied to everyone about the nanny and working at universal studios, she's a liar, then she threw her brother and her father under the bus, maybe they did molest her but i find it funny she now brings its up when its most convient for her. She gets away with this then the system is flawed.
ehhwhatever
That is wierd the orange county being in florida part and not california.I live in Orange county, Florida. Everybody is watching it and I'm completely sick of it. :|
Pikdum
[QUOTE="Pikdum"]That is wierd the orange county being in florida part and not california.I live in Orange county, Florida. Everybody is watching it and I'm completely sick of it. :|
ehhwhatever
made me lol, wish i had sig space for this :P
EDIT could i sig this?
That is wierd the orange county being in florida part and not california.[QUOTE="ehhwhatever"][QUOTE="Pikdum"]
I live in Orange county, Florida. Everybody is watching it and I'm completely sick of it. :|
munchlax99
made me lol, wish i had sig space for this :P
EDIT could i sig this?
idk[QUOTE="munchlax99"][QUOTE="ehhwhatever"] That is wierd the orange county being in florida part and not california.ehhwhatever
made me lol, wish i had sig space for this :P
EDIT could i sig this?
idkwell ok :P
I'm surprised this is still going on
I left Florida a long time ago but I still see some news reports about it but it doesn't matter to me anymore
That is wierd the orange county being in florida part and not california.[QUOTE="ehhwhatever"][QUOTE="Pikdum"]
I live in Orange county, Florida. Everybody is watching it and I'm completely sick of it. :|
munchlax99
made me lol, wish i had sig space for this :P
EDIT could i sig this?
The joke is on the both of you, there is an Orange County in Florida and even in New York. :lol:Please Log In to post.
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