does this paradox disprove christianity?

There are no facts supporting either side- Christianity or Athieism.

RiSkyBiZ-13

The lack of factual evidence for Christianity only supports the Agnostic and Atheistic beliefs. Its like saying,

"hey, we don't know if there is an el chupacabra, but lets believe in it anyway! Hell, lets base our whole lives around it!"

[QUOTE="Paper_Knife"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="morewasabi"]It's just as impossible to prove it true, which makes it quite ridiculous to believe either way completely. morewasabi

to me, it is a FACT that there is a god. i know it is peculiar, but i dont care what you think. i care what i think... know.

No evidence = No fact

Facts do not depend on what anyone thinks or does not think. They are based in objective reality and determined through reason.

i have seen more things in my life to prove gods exsistence, than to disprove it.

my andcestors have written journal of when they were crossing the plains in the winter, and they thought they were going to die, but they were pushed by the hands of god, angels. everytime i read that i know there is a god. (they write it in better detail than for what i have time for)

you have doubts about the exsistence of god, and thats why you cant understand what i'm saying. i know it. TO ME it is a fact.

The true paradox is this, for us to disprove your god and religion, first you need to prove that god exists.

......

Checkmate.

Rifkin-

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]

There are no facts supporting either side- Christianity or Athieism.

Rifkin-

The lack of factual evidence for Christianity only supports the Agnostic and Atheistic beliefs. Its like saying,

"hey, we don't know if there is an el chupacabra, but lets believe in it anyway! Hell, lets base our whole lives around it!"

Athiesm has no factual evidence disproving the existence of God. Show me one example, and I'll disprove it. Obviouly you haven't been reading the many religion threads that have been floating through since last night.

i have seen more things in my life to prove gods exsistence, than to disprove it.

my andcestors have written journal of when they were crossing the plains in the winter, and they thought they were going to die, but they were pushed by the hands of god, angels. everytime i read that i know there is a god. (they write it in better detail than for what i have time for)

you have doubts about the exsistence of god, and thats why you cant understand what i'm saying. i know it. TO ME it is a fact.

Paper_Knife

Athiesm has no factual evidence disproving the existence of God. Show me one example, and I'll disprove it. Obviouly you haven't been reading the many religion threads that have been floating through since last night.RiSkyBiZ-13

Once again you guys fail to understand how Logic works...

For me to DISPROVE something, it has to be PROVEN first... its like saying, "hey, disprove that there isn't a 83 legged alien in the universe" There very well might be, or maybe not, but for you to tell me to Disprove it, is ridiculous, there is no evidence supporting it in the first place....

Give me some proof of god, and i'll shoot them all down.

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]Athiesm has no factual evidence disproving the existence of God. Show me one example, and I'll disprove it. Obviouly you haven't been reading the many religion threads that have been floating through since last night.Rifkin-

Once again you guys fail to understand how Logic works...

For me to DISPROVE something, it has to be PROVEN first... its like saying, "hey, disprove that there isn't a 83 legged alien in the universe" There very well might be, or maybe not, but for you to tell me to Disprove it, is ridiculous, there is no evidence supporting it in the first place....

Give me some proof of god, and i'll shoot them all down.

Which brings us right back to my original point, there is no actual fact backing up either party.

[QUOTE="Paper_Knife"]i have seen more things in my life to prove gods exsistence, than to disprove it.

my andcestors have written journal of when they were crossing the plains in the winter, and they thought they were going to die, but they were pushed by the hands of god, angels. everytime i read that i know there is a god. (they write it in better detail than for what i have time for)

you have doubts about the exsistence of god, and thats why you cant understand what i'm saying. i know it. TO ME it is a fact.

foxhound_fox

dude, i've SEEn things, but im not supposed to say anything, sacred. there are things about my religion that noone knows, unless you make covenants and so forth. so believe what you want, i know i have a heavenly father.

Once again you guys fail to understand how Logic works...

For me to DISPROVE something, it has to be PROVEN first... its like saying, "hey, disprove that there isn't a 83 legged alien in the universe" There very well might be, or maybe not, but for you to tell me to Disprove it, is ridiculous, there is no evidence supporting it in the first place....

Give me some proof of god, and i'll shoot them all down.

Rifkin-

dude, i've SEEn things, but im not supposed to say anything, sacred. there are things about my religion that noone knows, unless you make covenants and so forth. so believe what you want, i know i have a heavenly father.Paper_Knife

There are so many flaws in Christianity that a lifetime would be insufficient to cover them.........thisishowtowin

Start naming a few and I'll clarify for you.

alright, answer me this.

if god created the universe, who created the god?

And, saying god is timeless is not an answer, as I could simply respond, "nope, the universe is timeless, no one created it".

There are so many flaws in Christianity that a lifetime would be insufficient to cover them.........thisishowtowin

except i am a different sect of christianity, The church of jesus christ of latter day saints. we believe that christianity (as a whole) was becoming corrupt, and it couldnt be fixed with out a prophet, to recieve direct revalation from god.

alright, answer me this.

if god created the universe, who created the god?

And, saying god is timeless is not an answer, as I could simply respond, "nope, the universe is timeless, no one created it".

Rifkin-

my question still stands unanswered. cmon now, why don't you just call god and ask him, or find an answer in that big book of yours.

alright, answer me this.

if god created the universe, who created the god?

And, saying god is timeless is not an answer, as I could simply respond, "nope, the universe is timeless, no one created it".

Rifkin-

alright, answer me this.

if god created the universe, who created the god?

And, saying god is timeless is not an answer, as I could simply respond, "nope, the universe is timeless, no one created it".

Rifkin-

Something has had to be infinate- nothing is created from nothing. Which is more plausible: an infinate being or presence that created the proper components to create what the universe is today, or some kind of materials that are infinate. I believe the former is much more reasonable.

alright, answer me this.

if god created the universe, who created the god?

And, saying god is timeless is not an answer, as I could simply respond, "nope, the universe is timeless, no one created it".

Rifkin-

i'll answer that. our life on this earth is a, test (for lack of better word). and our goal it to be found worthy to go back to our father in heaven. and the most worthy, those who have been baptized, done good deeds, etc. will be given the power to create planets, and to continue having "spiritual children" in the next life. so what i am saying is that God was in our shoes.

he had a son when he was on his planet, Jesus. after he died and made this vast universe, he made spiritual children, us.

Funny, none of you answered my question, all of you dodged it...

The fact is, none of your answers are justified, and I could simply argue.

The universe is perfect, its always existed.

Life isn't a test, its just a chemical reaction in the brain that creates an illusion of reality, and the whole idea that we are something special is ridiculous, when you consider that there are hundreds of billions of galaxys that most likely contain life beyond this planet.


I'm looking for PROOF and FACTS not "because I said so".

You guys are going to have to try harder than that.

Something has had to be infinate- nothing is created from nothing. Which is more plausible: an infinate being or presence that created the proper components to create what the universe is today, or some kind of materials that are infinate. I believe the former is much more reasonable.

RiSkyBiZ-13

The universe is infinite, why does there have to be a thinking god... Does it bother you to realize that your life is pointless? It doesn't bother me, life is to be lived, not to be expecting something more, because i feel sorry for you all when you find out that your sundays wasted in church could've been spent doing something productive.

Funny, none of you answered my question, all of you dodged it...

The fact is, none of your answers are justified, and I could simply argue.

The universe is perfect, its always existed.

Life isn't a test, its just a chemical reaction in the brain that creates an illusion of reality, and the whole idea that we are something special is ridiculous, when you consider that there are hundreds of billions of galaxys that most likely contain life beyond this planet.

I'm looking for PROOF and FACTS not "because I said so".

You guys are going to have to try harder than that.

Rifkin-

Funny, none of you answered my question, all of you dodged it...

The fact is, none of your answers are justified, and I could simply argue.

The universe is perfect, its always existed.

Life isn't a test, its just a chemical reaction in the brain that creates an illusion of reality, and the whole idea that we are something special is ridiculous, when you consider that there are hundreds of billions of galaxys that most likely contain life beyond this planet.


I'm looking for PROOF and FACTS not "because I said so".

You guys are going to have to try harder than that.

Rifkin-

you do you mean didnt answer your question. i did. thats the truth. i didnt dodge anything

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]

Something has had to be infinate- nothing is created from nothing. Which is more plausible: an infinate being or presence that created the proper components to create what the universe is today, or some kind of materials that are infinate. I believe the former is much more reasonable.

Rifkin-

The universe is infinite, why does there have to be a thinking god... Does it bother you to realize that your life is pointless? It doesn't bother me, life is to be lived, not to be expecting something more, because i feel sorry for you all when you find out that your sundays wasted in church could've been spent doing something productive.

WHAT? i garantee i get more i happiness in one session of church than you'd expect. if you want to just argue with me, the only way to solve it is to actualy go to my church. and if you dont, you have no argument against me.

have you ever sincerely said a prayer? in all seriousness. have you ever just humered yourself, and humbled yourself, and just gotten on your knees on the side of your bed and poured your soul out>

The fact of this matter is, no matter which way you all look at it, Religion is a man made idea...

The answer to my question.

Who created the god? - MAN

HUMANS created the idea of god, because they don't want to be alone, back in the days when people thought the wind was satan farting, they needed reasoning, and there just wasn't enough facts. Your christian religion isn't the first (it was derived from judaism) and it won't be the last religion to scorn this humanity, but if you want to weigh things into perspective...

If you were born in Afganistan, you would most likely be Islamic, if you were born in Mongolia, you would probably be Hindu or Buddhist, but no, you were born in a Anglo-Christian world, and therefore your beliefs are those of theirs. To even think that a book that was written by people who believed the world was flat to be the only truth is simply ridiculous, you might as well live your life by fortune cookies.

The simple truth is, religion and god are man made ideas, they will never be proof of gods existance, and the reason behind that is because no one can ever know, some would like to believe they "know".

and to end with a famous quote.

"Before you can know anything you must admit you know nothing."Rifkin-

you're contradictiong yourself. you're saying man made god up, but you have less evidence than i do.

The fact of this matter is, no matter which way you all look at it, Religion is a man made idea...

The answer to my question.

Who created the god? - MAN

*A bunch of speculation*Rifkin-

first of all, regarding your first reply, I have prayed before, many times, that was when I was 12 and younger. I went to a Catholic School from kindergarten all the way through highschool, and because i'm not completely ignorant to the facts, I could see the holes in the Christian religion. Secondly, If your trying to say I don't have proof that man made the idea of god... then you truly must be an idiot, because do you think that book appeared out of no where? Someone wrote that book, and it wasn't the first one to have the idea ither. Deities, or gods were thought up way before Christianity, some couple 1000 years before actually, and the funny thing is, christianity has borrowed more ideas from these religions than you could count. I mean, cmon were talking about a religion that was born of another religion. What makes you think that your faith is more correct than another?


And that is all I have to say on the matter, because you can never win an argument with a fool.

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]

Something has had to be infinate- nothing is created from nothing. Which is more plausible: an infinate being or presence that created the proper components to create what the universe is today, or some kind of materials that are infinate. I believe the former is much more reasonable.

Rifkin-

The universe is infinite, why does there have to be a thinking god... Does it bother you to realize that your life is pointless? It doesn't bother me, life is to be lived, not to be expecting something more, because i feel sorry for you all when you find out that your sundays wasted in church could've been spent doing something productive.

A very arrogant post, and very typical of an Athiest. So you say the universe is infinite- how is that any more plausible than believing in an infinate being or presence?

first of all, regarding your first reply, I have prayed before, many times, that was when I was 12 and younger. I went to a Catholic School from kindergarten all the way through highschool, and because i'm not completely ignorant to the facts, I could see the holes in the Christian religion. Secondly, If your trying to say I don't have proof that man made the idea of god... then you truly must be an idiot, because do you think that book appeared out of no where? Someone wrote that book, and it wasn't the first one to have the idea ither. Deities, or gods were thought up way before Christianity, some couple 1000 years before actually, and the funny thing is, christianity has borrowed more ideas from these religions than you could count. I mean, cmon were talking about a religion that was born of another religion. What makes you think that your faith is more correct than another?


And that is all I have to say on the matter, because you can never win an argument with a fool.

Rifkin-

I must ask again... where is your proof? You have presented us only with theories and speculation. No facts.

*A bunch of ignorance*foxhound_fox

I don't need prove of anything. And you think you have proven anything by telling me how i must view the universe?

Tell me why you believe in a singular creator, why can't their be numerous? Why do you only believe in one god?

And saying "Simple god is a perfect being" is contridictory, if he is perfect then he is everything, then he is imperfect. The argument cancels itself out.

[QUOTE="Rifkin-"][QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]

Something has had to be infinate- nothing is created from nothing. Which is more plausible: an infinate being or presence that created the proper components to create what the universe is today, or some kind of materials that are infinate. I believe the former is much more reasonable.

RiSkyBiZ-13

The universe is infinite, why does there have to be a thinking god... Does it bother you to realize that your life is pointless? It doesn't bother me, life is to be lived, not to be expecting something more, because i feel sorry for you all when you find out that your sundays wasted in church could've been spent doing something productive.

A very arrogant post, and very typical of an Athiest. So you say the universe is infinite- how is that any more plausible than believing in an infinate being or presence?

Typical of an Atheist? You guys think you know everything, I'm showing you how flawed your arguments are. You cannot just say god is infinite, its ridiculous, you have no supporting evidence. Learn how to use logic before you try to toe-to-toe in an argument.

first of all, regarding your first reply, I have prayed before, many times, that was when I was 12 and younger. I went to a Catholic School from kindergarten all the way through highschool, and because i'm not completely ignorant to the facts, I could see the holes in the Christian religion. Secondly, If your trying to say I don't have proof that man made the idea of god... then you truly must be an idiot, because do you think that book appeared out of no where? Someone wrote that book, and it wasn't the first one to have the idea ither. Deities, or gods were thought up way before Christianity, some couple 1000 years before actually, and the funny thing is, christianity has borrowed more ideas from these religions than you could count. I mean, cmon were talking about a religion that was born of another religion. What makes you think that your faith is more correct than another?


And that is all I have to say on the matter, because you can never win an argument with a fool.

Rifkin-

no, you saw the holes in the catholic religion. you were raised in a very corrupt religion and were nurtured without the proper recources. you have had thoughts about how man made the idea of god because that was the easiest thing to believe. if god made it easy to believe in him, there would be no point in this test on earth.

how many witnesses is it for the law to say that something happened? well, however many it is, there have have been thousands more (prohets, seers and revalators) who have born a witness of God. and if you're gonna go by "legal facts", there you go.

you will never have the same point of view as me until you have ahad the same experiences as me. you have never, not once, gone tomy church. you have gone to other churches that didnt recieve direct revalation from god.

I don't need prove of anything. And you think you have proven anything by telling me how i must view the universe?

Tell me why you believe in a singular creator, why can't their be numerous? Why do you only believe in one god?

And saying "Simple god is a perfect being" is contridictory, if he is perfect then he is everything, then he is imperfect. The argument cancels itself out.

Rifkin-

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"][QUOTE="Rifkin-"][QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]

Something has had to be infinate- nothing is created from nothing. Which is more plausible: an infinate being or presence that created the proper components to create what the universe is today, or some kind of materials that are infinate. I believe the former is much more reasonable.

Rifkin-

The universe is infinite, why does there have to be a thinking god... Does it bother you to realize that your life is pointless? It doesn't bother me, life is to be lived, not to be expecting something more, because i feel sorry for you all when you find out that your sundays wasted in church could've been spent doing something productive.

A very arrogant post, and very typical of an Athiest. So you say the universe is infinite- how is that any more plausible than believing in an infinate being or presence?

Typical of an Atheist? You guys think you know everything, I'm showing you how flawed your arguments are. You cannot just say god is infinite, its ridiculous, you have no supporting evidence. Learn how to use logic before you try to toe-to-toe in an argument.

I highlited all of the areas that you thought you knew everything, as you so blatently put. I won't tip toe an argument, but I'm not sure where you're going with any of this.

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"][QUOTE="Rifkin-"][QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]

Something has had to be infinate- nothing is created from nothing. Which is more plausible: an infinate being or presence that created the proper components to create what the universe is today, or some kind of materials that are infinate. I believe the former is much more reasonable.

Rifkin-

The universe is infinite, why does there have to be a thinking god... Does it bother you to realize that your life is pointless? It doesn't bother me, life is to be lived, not to be expecting something more, because i feel sorry for you all when you find out that your sundays wasted in church could've been spent doing something productive.

A very arrogant post, and very typical of an Athiest. So you say the universe is infinite- how is that any more plausible than believing in an infinate being or presence?

Typical of an Atheist? You guys think you know everything, I'm showing you how flawed your arguments are. You cannot just say god is infinite, its ridiculous, you have no supporting evidence. Learn how to use logic before you try to toe-to-toe in an argument.

eveybody arguing with you but me have said that god is infinite 'just because'. i gave a reason, religious belief that has no flaw.

many witnesses is it for the law to say that something happened? well, however many it is, there have have been thousands more (prohets, seers and revalators) who have born a witness of God. and if you're gonna go by "legal facts", there you go.Paper_Knife

How many witnesses are there that say they've seen the boogeyman? How about the El Chupacabra, or maybe lets try another Religion, what about the Prophets of Islam? The Avatars of the Hindu? This is no more "legal" facts than a fortune cookie.

you will never have the same point of view as me until you have ahad the same experiences as me. you have never, not once, gone tomy church. you have gone to other churches that didnt recieve direct revalation from god.Paper_Knife

Here we go AGAIN:

Bible Interpretation: Too many religions are misled into the belief that the bible is black and white, to be taken literally and verbatum. Why would God give us minds capable of challenging and questioning if he wanted us to simply accept that Adam and Eve were actual flesh and blood humans that began our species? Or that, at the end of the world, a seven headed lizard will actually come out of the sea, and the moon will literally turn blood red. I don't think that our current species can hope to begin to unveil the stories underneath the stories that make up the Holy Bible, but I do believe that it is our duty to try. We do only use a very tiny percentage of our mortal minds, perhaps in a later evolutionary state our species will be actually be able to unveil the Bible's many mysteries.

The Big Bang: This is a very plausible theory based on many scientific facts. The more our space program expands, the closer this theory comes to being a fact. What I don't understand is why Athiests use this to disprove the existence of God. Perhaps the Big Bang really did happen, those trillions and trillions of years ago. For a reaction on the scale of the Big Bang, there would have had to been at LEAST two components, or elements if you will (that's a long shot, something on that scale would require more components- but for my purposes of this argument I'll say two). Where did those two components come from? Were they infinate, or were they created? If so by whom? Even if they were infinate, what set them in motion to eventually collide? The Big Bang hardly disproves God's existence, it simply disproves the whole Adam and Eve story, which as I have already said I hardly belive that God's intention was for that fable to be taken literally as historical fact.

Free Will: An issue seems to keep rising in these forums- that of God's supposed "cruelty." It has been posted over and over, "If God is so loving and compassionate, why is there murder, rape, crime, and war? Why doesn't He intervene?" Well, the answer is simple and surfaces in the bible on several occasions. It's called Free Will. God does not work us like puppets. As I have said on several occasions, God left us free to make our world the most prosperous and peaceful place in all of existence. We are as free to hurt and kill as we are to heal and save. Unfortunately, we've all ruined our world. I know (no blasphemy intended) that if I were God, I would have turned my back on this world a long time ago. He, however, has not.

I highlited all of the areas that you thought you knew everything, as you so blatently put. I won't tip toe an argument, but I'm not sure where you're going with any of this. RiSkyBiZ-13

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]I highlited all of the areas that you thought you knew everything, as you so blatently put. I won't tip toe an argument, but I'm not sure where you're going with any of this. Rifkin-

You're making no sense whatsoever. I have not admitted to any of my arguments being flawed. Read my above post, it's some of my major views in a nutshell.

hey rifkin-

im going to bed, but if you want to know about my religion you can find out more here. it is worth looking into. you dont have to believe it, but you will become more knowledgable about a very good, and well rounded religion. i cant hurt to look.

ps. if you look with a bad attitude, fully doubting what you will see, you will get nothing out of it. you must be open minded. to what other people believe.

Bible Interpretation: Why not the Quran, why not the Epic of Gilgamesh, why not the Torah or the Book of Life/Death. When you examine the facts, the bible has be translated, editted and rewritten uncounted times. The bible your reading today is in no way close to when it was first written. You can't argue this, as it is a proven FACT that the original language it was written in, contains words that are not even translatable into the english language.

The Big Bang: I don't know why your bringing this up, did I ever say I know how the universe was created? No, no one knows and I'm trying to get this point across that we're all AGNOSTIC, no one can "know" if there is a god or not.

Free Will: Furthermore, on this subject, if your 'god' isn't to take credit for evil, then he cannot take credit for good ither, because this is our free will choice to do ither. (Speculation, None of us can know ither way).

I don't believe in a singular creator. I don't believe in multiple creators. I don't even believe the universe was created or that it at one point didn't exist. I believe that the ultimate truth of the universe, whatever it may be, either through philosophical or scientific analysis, is ultimately, unknowable. We can try our best to explain it but in the end, we are all ignorant to the truth, no matter how you spin it.

As for my "proof" of the existence of God, it does "prove" His existence. But... He would have to actually exist for the "proof" to be plausible. It "proves" His existence, just not in a normal sense... an ontological one.

You cannot prove that God does not exist and I cannot prove that He does. We are ultimately debating opinion, which, by in large, is a waste of time.foxhound_fox

It seems we are at an understanding but on opposite sides. My belief and rationality is that if you cannot know there is or isn't a god, then don't make your mind until it could be proven. I don't have a problem with people believing in gods/god but I can't stand when people think that they can prove it, when obviously no one can.

alright, answer me this.

if god created the universe, who created the god?

And, saying god is timeless is not an answer, as I could simply respond, "nope, the universe is timeless, no one created it".

Rifkin-

[QUOTE="Rifkin-"]

alright, answer me this.

if god created the universe, who created the god?

And, saying god is timeless is not an answer, as I could simply respond, "nope, the universe is timeless, no one created it".

Rifkin-

my question still stands unanswered. cmon now, why don't you just call god and ask him, or find an answer in that big book of yours.

Oh snap! 3 minutes! :o :roll:

And to answer your question: Nothing created God as God is infinite and something infinite isn't created, it just is.

And How can the universe be timeless? If the universe always existed, it would have reached its maximum entropy an infinite amount of time ago. Nebula's are out of materials to make stars, stars are all burned out, black holes evaporated, everything we have now in the universe wouldn't be how it is if the universe was truly infinite.

Another point is, if the universe is infinite, how can it expand? If its infinitely big, it can't expand or contract. Just like a line. Line's are infinitely long. How can they get any longer?

Anyways im going to sleep, cya.

the bible is just 1 big metaphor meant to inflict good morals upon easily persuaded children. You know... get em while they're young.dipper145

While you do make a good point. I believe that the Bible is made because humanity needs to have an answer for everything. Since we don't have an answer for "How did the Universe come to be?" We created Religion to ease our pain. I like some of the stories from the Bible though and stories have been taken from the Bible and put into modern day stories. Except its not EXACTLY the same. They're called Allusions. The Bible also got its stories from Ancient Greeks. I wonder where the Greeks got those stories from?

the bible is just 1 big metaphor meant to inflict good morals upon easily persuaded children. You know... get em while they're young.dipper145

I'm 22 years old, have always been WAY above my reading level, and still have trouble comprehending the majority of the bible. Have you ever read it? Didn't think so.

[QUOTE="dipper145"]the bible is just 1 big metaphor meant to inflict good morals upon easily persuaded children. You know... get em while they're young.RiSkyBiZ-13

I'm 22 years old, have always been WAY above my reading level, and still have trouble comprehending the majority of the bible. Have you ever read it? Didn't think so.

Congradulations on your high reading level but the Bible is a pretty straight forward book for any High School Senior. Even young children can be taught the concepts of the morals because the whole point of the Bible. It's like a guideline.

[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]

[QUOTE="dipper145"]the bible is just 1 big metaphor meant to inflict good morals upon easily persuaded children. You know... get em while they're young.Dirijor2841

I'm 22 years old, have always been WAY above my reading level, and still have trouble comprehending the majority of the bible. Have you ever read it? Didn't think so.

Congradulations on your high reading level but the Bible is a pretty straight forward book for any High School Senior. Even young children can be taught the concepts of the morals because the whole point of the Bible. It's like a guideline.

The bible is in no way straight forward. The vast percentage of High School seniors haven't made it halfway through Genesis. Young children can be taught the 10 Commandments in the bible, yes, but that's a drop in the ocean for what the bible holds. Read it sometime, and you'll agree with me. (I'm not trying to provoke an argument here)