Dogs indoor or outdoor ?

I am in a huge debate over pets. I have a toddler, the toddlers play room is where our 2 beagle live/sleep. They have an actually bed. Their hair is everywhere, and my kid has ashtma. On top of it all, they chew and destroy the toys, take pisses and crap on the floor, am i in the wrong to be upset ? I have a huge yard, they have a huge closed in gated fence with a $200 dollar dog house, that also has a huge bed inside. The debate is my wife loves the dogs, and she wishes for them to live indoors, so they do. She thinks i hate dogs, and pets in general. I honestly don't, i just don't have time to be cleaning poop, and hair, and walking and feeding, and attention. I give that to my toddler, and i its hard to find time being away from home 12hrs a day. I know everyone has different opinions, but what do you guys think ? They also destroyed the yard, and poop and destroy the grass, also destroy the screen door, and destroy our furniture in that room by chewing on it, they eat expnsive shoes, ect. I guess this is what happens when you get married, you just have to put up with stuff, thank goodness for beer, sports, games, classic cars, and TV !

to keep wifey happy you have to accept dogs and be a dog :P 

For me,it would depend what kind of dog it is.Labrador,inside.Rot or pitbull,outside.Keep in mind,I would not get a dangerous dog.

Train the dogs...then you only have to worry about pet hair.Person0

[QUOTE="Person0"]Train the dogs...then you only have to worry about pet hair.comp_atkins

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"][QUOTE="Person0"]Train the dogs...then you only have to worry about pet hair.LexLas

Train the dogs...then you only have to worry about pet hair.Person0

This, perhaps if any of you had taken the time to properly train the dog, it wouldn't jump on the couches and it wouldn't defecate or urinate inside the house

[QUOTE="Person0"]Train the dogs...then you only have to worry about pet hair.comp_atkins

We have a winner.

If your dogs are pooping and peeing in the house, then they are not trained.

if you're allowing that behavior, then they are never gonna be trained.

that is why i dont have any pets i wouldn't like it if they kept craping all over the place.

Why didn't you train your animals? Duh...XilePrincess

Make your wife clean up after their messes.

if she wants to let them crap and pee in the house, then she should be responsible for cleaning up their mess.

Make your wife clean up after their messes.

if she wants to let them crap and pee in the house, then she should be responsible for cleaning up their mess.

konvikt_17

[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

Make your wife clean up after their messes.

if she wants to let them crap and pee in the house, then she should be responsible for cleaning up their mess.

LexLas

Care to elaborate? Because it sounds very unfair to me.

Hmm it seems your only option would be...Divorce!!

jk:P

maybe you could have a talk with her. let her know your concerns and such. maybe try to reach a compromise or something.

Hmm it seems your only option would be...Divorce!!

jk:P

maybe you could have a talk with her. let her know your concerns and such. maybe try to reach a compromise or something.

konvikt_17

[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

Hmm it seems your only option would be...Divorce!!

jk:P

maybe you could have a talk with her. let her know your concerns and such. maybe try to reach a compromise or something.

LexLas

[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

Hmm it seems your only option would be...Divorce!!

jk:P

maybe you could have a talk with her. let her know your concerns and such. maybe try to reach a compromise or something.

LexLas

well then at least voice your concerns so its out there. maybe add in how its not safe for the children.

there is almost no such thing as an outdoor dog.

maybe a siberian or husky or something would be the closest thing to an outside dog because they are built for hard conditions.

the vast majority of them need to be indoors.

if you are having problems with your unsupervised dogs doing things you don't want them to do there is a simple solution.

crate them.

they can't break the rules if they are crated when nobody is watching them.

if they are tearing things up and getting into trouble while people are home then it is time to bring in a professional trainer and let him see what the situation is and how to fix it.

[QUOTE="LexLas"][QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

Make your wife clean up after their messes.

if she wants to let them crap and pee in the house, then she should be responsible for cleaning up their mess.

deeliman

Care to elaborate? Because it sounds very unfair to me.

For me,it would depend what kind of dog it is.Labrador,inside.Rot or pitbull,outside.Keep in mind,I would not get a dangerous dog.

brimmul777

i mean i would not have the lab outside either but your logic is totally backwards on which dogs are the most protected from the elements.

I live in a flat; doggie stay inside.

there is almost no such thing as an outdoor dog.

maybe a siberian or husky or something would be the closest thing to an outside dog because they are built for hard conditions.

the vast majority of them need to be indoors.

if you are having problems with your unsupervised dogs doing things you don't want them to do there is a simple solution.

crate them.

they can't break the rules if they are crated when nobody is watching them.

if they are tearing things up and getting into trouble while people are home then it is time to bring in a professional trainer and let him see what the situation is and how to fix it.

Riverwolf007

Uh keep them outside. Your wife is being silly. Everyone seems to be ignoring the whole asthma thing, I had it when I was younger - it sucks and if it can be easily fixed just by keeping the dog outside, you should do it.

Uh keep them outside. Your wife is being silly. Everyone seems to be ignoring the whole asthma thing, I had it when I was younger - it sucks and if it can be easily fixed just by keeping the dog outside, you should do it.

cain006

the problem could also be fixed by not having the dog at all, letting someone more capable to care for it.

[QUOTE="cain006"]

Uh keep them outside. Your wife is being silly. Everyone seems to be ignoring the whole asthma thing, I had it when I was younger - it sucks and if it can be easily fixed just by keeping the dog outside, you should do it.

Jimn_tonic

the problem could also be fixed by not having the dog at all, letting someone more capable to care for it.

Most dogs belong outside, especially if they are large dogs. Small dogs like toy poodles, chihuahuas, minuture dobermans, terriers etc should be kept indoors, medium sized dogs like beagles can be either or. Now, that said, if the dogs do not leave the kitchen while you are home, they know that you will not allow them to make a mess, until you go to sleep so it is your wife that also needs training as well as more for the dogs if you continue keeping them in the house. They should not be making a mess of your house and your wife should not be allowing it as well as your kids.

Now lastly, but the most important, the asthma. Pet dander can excerbate asthma and make your son sicker. Pet Dander at the American Lung Association has more details on it and is something your wife should read. If you have an attached garage, you could always put them in there and then your kids can take them in the yard to play with them and put them back in the garage after playing with them and it will help keep the fur and dander out of the carpet and furniture so your son doesn't have a bad asthma attack.

For me,it would depend what kind of dog it is.Labrador,inside.Rot or pitbull,outside.Keep in mind,I would not get a dangerous dog.

brimmul777

[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]Why didn't you train your animals? Duh...LexLas

You have to always crate train your dog yourself. Your dog needs to see you as the pack master, if someone else trains it, it rarely works out. It needs to respect you, if it does respect you it will obey the rules you taught it when it was young. Now I hate it that I even have to say this, but never never hit or abuse your animals, they are not stupid, they might become better when you're around, but when they get the chance they will rebel by tearing up things and crapping and pissing in sometimes hidden locations.

If you crate train your dog properly and it acts out when it's older, all you have to do is verbally let it know and put it back into the crate for its punishment. Now if you've done all of this and your dog is still acting out it's more then likely that it needs more activity to get its energy out, if you are a busy person that doesn't have much time to walk and play with your dog then you should seek out a dog breed that requires less exercise.

When it comes to their smell, it's only a problem if you don't wash them enough, although when your out in hot conditions your dog will get that doggie smell, but I've noticed that after they cool down that smell tends to fade away, so if your worried about spreading that smell throughout your home, you should keep them in a confined area for a little bit after they get worked up outside.

Also, all dog breeds are dramatically different when it comes to shedding, some dogs don't shed much while other dogs are constantly shedding, I try to brush my labs hair every other day, but that still isn't enough, but I have a good vacuum that's great with hair, so as long as I vacuum a couple times a month it really isn't a problem. Even if you've done all that, all your efforts will be wasted if other people who are with your dog lets it break the rules.

I love my dog, and it's so well trained that people can't believe how good she is, and how she listens, and does what I tell her, but when I have to travel I leave her with my parents, and after a week or more with them she starts to listen less and tries to get away with things she would normally never do, but after I'm back for a few days, she behaves just like her old self.

I personally don't like keeping any dogs outdoors, it can make things worse especially for someone in your position, I would bet it would become way dirtier and much smellier, then when you're not around I'm sure the dog will be let in the house, making your problem exponentially worse, plus I can give you one example of when my dog got bitten by a tick, then contracted Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, which lead to Encephalitis and almost killed her, it took about $1600 and the University of Tennessee to cure her, so I never ever let her get out of my sight outdoors anymore.

Ultimately you may just not be a dog lover, and no matter what you do you may never be happy with the situation, if that's the case then get ready to compromise, and try an make it into the best situation you can.  

Indoors of course. If your dogs are tearing things up and taking craps inside then you aren't giving them enough attention or training them properly.

Your dog needs to see you as the pack masterNe-Plus-Ultra

Dogs don't actually work like this. Even wolves don't actually have pack masters.

[QUOTE="Jimn_tonic"]

[QUOTE="cain006"]

Uh keep them outside. Your wife is being silly. Everyone seems to be ignoring the whole asthma thing, I had it when I was younger - it sucks and if it can be easily fixed just by keeping the dog outside, you should do it.

cain006

the problem could also be fixed by not having the dog at all, letting someone more capable to care for it.

Why the hell doesn't she take care of them then.

Dogs should be outside, my brother has 2 large dogs and has them inside a lot and his place stinks.  There's always dog hair on the couch and even his kids beds which is revolting, we all hate going around there because of this.  TC your wife needs to get her priorities straight, kids are far more important than dogs.  The solution is pretty simple really, the dogs are the problem so eliminate the problem.

Dogs should be outside, my brother has 2 large dogs and has them inside a lot and his place stinks.  There's always dog hair on the couch and even his kids beds which is revolting, we all hate going around there because of this.  TC your wife needs to get her priorities straight, kids are far more important than dogs.  The solution is pretty simple really, the dogs are the problem so eliminate the problem.

187umKILLAH

Way to generalize all dogs, just based off of your brothers 2 dogs.

[QUOTE="187umKILLAH"]

Dogs should be outside, my brother has 2 large dogs and has them inside a lot and his place stinks.  There's always dog hair on the couch and even his kids beds which is revolting, we all hate going around there because of this.  TC your wife needs to get her priorities straight, kids are far more important than dogs.  The solution is pretty simple really, the dogs are the problem so eliminate the problem.

konvikt_17

Way to generalize all dogs, just based off of your brothers 2 dogs.

[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

[QUOTE="187umKILLAH"]

Dogs should be outside, my brother has 2 large dogs and has them inside a lot and his place stinks.  There's always dog hair on the couch and even his kids beds which is revolting, we all hate going around there because of this.  TC your wife needs to get her priorities straight, kids are far more important than dogs.  The solution is pretty simple really, the dogs are the problem so eliminate the problem.

187umKILLAH

Way to generalize all dogs, just based off of your brothers 2 dogs.

well it reads as a generalization of dogs as a whole.

[QUOTE="187umKILLAH"]

[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

Way to generalize all dogs, just based off of your brothers 2 dogs.

konvikt_17

well it reads as a generalization of dogs as a whole.

[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

[QUOTE="187umKILLAH"] That was obviously just ONE example.

187umKILLAH

well it reads as a generalization of dogs as a whole.

Not all dogs shed. and bathing can usually get rid of a smelly dog.

putting a dog outside simply because he/she smells and sheds is not the answer.

you should know what you are getting into when you get a dog.

[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

[QUOTE="187umKILLAH"] That was obviously just ONE example.

187umKILLAH

well it reads as a generalization of dogs as a whole.

Most dogs belong outside, especially if they are large dogs.

WhiteKnight77

Based on what. All dogs belong indoors if you want them to stay happier and healthier.

Third time, a light whack that causes them to yelp, nothing hard.joehult

Completely unnecessary.

[QUOTE="LexLas"]

[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]Why didn't you train your animals? Duh...Ne-Plus-Ultra

You have to always crate train your dog yourself. Your dog needs to see you as the pack master, if someone else trains it, it rarely works out. It needs to respect you, if it does respect you it will obey the rules you taught it when it was young. Now I hate it that I even have to say this, but never never hit or abuse your animals, they are not stupid, they might become better when you're around, but when they get the chance they will rebel by tearing up things and crapping and pissing in sometimes hidden locations.

If you crate train your dog properly and it acts out when it's older, all you have to do is verbally let it know and put it back into the crate for its punishment. Now if you've done all of this and your dog is still acting out it's more then likely that it needs more activity to get its energy out, if you are a busy person that doesn't have much time to walk and play with your dog then you should seek out a dog breed that requires less exercise.

When it comes to their smell, it's only a problem if you don't wash them enough, although when your out in hot conditions your dog will get that doggie smell, but I've noticed that after they cool down that smell tends to fade away, so if your worried about spreading that smell throughout your home, you should keep them in a confined area for a little bit after they get worked up outside.

Also, all dog breeds are dramatically different when it comes to shedding, some dogs don't shed much while other dogs are constantly shedding, I try to brush my labs hair every other day, but that still isn't enough, but I have a good vacuum that's great with hair, so as long as I vacuum a couple times a month it really isn't a problem. Even if you've done all that, all your efforts will be wasted if other people who are with your dog lets it break the rules.

I love my dog, and it's so well trained that people can't believe how good she is, and how she listens, and does what I tell her, but when I have to travel I leave her with my parents, and after a week or more with them she starts to listen less and tries to get away with things she would normally never do, but after I'm back for a few days, she behaves just like her old self.

I personally don't like keeping any dogs outdoors, it can make things worse especially for someone in your position, I would bet it would become way dirtier and much smellier, then when you're not around I'm sure the dog will be let in the house, making your problem exponentially worse, plus I can give you one example of when my dog got bitten by a tick, then contracted Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, which lead to Encephalitis and almost killed her, it took about $1600 and the University of Tennessee to cure her, so I never ever let her get out of my sight outdoors anymore.

Ultimately you may just not be a dog lover, and no matter what you do you may never be happy with the situation, if that's the case then get ready to compromise, and try an make it into the best situation you can.