don't pump gas on april 15, 2012

I feel like the oil companies would just be like "Oh, weird. Guess tomorrow we're getting 4.4 billion."

I wonder if these people know that we get less than half of our oil from the Middle East?

People will still buy gas regardless. You can't really stop them.

sounds pretty stupid. i guess if i owned a station i'd just hike my prices up a bit on the 14th or 16th..comp_atkins

i'll try it though, see what happens

[QUOTE="jman1553"]"2.2 billion" "That's almost 3 BILLION" Umm. What?MgamerBD

As did I :lol:

Im getting gas for $0.50 something.

Living in the middle east has its advanatages!

These are so dumb. I'm sure others have already stated why they are dumb, so I will not reiterate

[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]sounds pretty stupid. i guess if i owned a station i'd just hike my prices up a bit on the 14th or 16th..CKYguy25

i'll try it though, see what happens

We pay £1.33 per litre of petrol which is $2.12. Wish we could lower petrol prices here :|

No thanks, if prices goes up I will use less.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

That's a stupid idea. That simply defers payment until a day or two later, thereby not removing any money from the oil companies. If you really want the idea to work, have a "Don't drive on X day". That reduces consumption, and consequently, profit.

surrealnumber5

Margins aren't static, but the volume sold is (in conjunction with price mechanisms), ideally, at a level which generates the most profit. (a maximum of profit per unit * quantity sold) Likewise, deviating from that maximum should result in less profit.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

That's a stupid idea. That simply defers payment until a day or two later, thereby not removing any money from the oil companies. If you really want the idea to work, have a "Don't drive on X day". That reduces consumption, and consequently, profit.

coolbeans90

Margins aren't static, but the volume sold is (in conjunction with price mechanisms), ideally, at a level which generates the most profit. (a maximum of profit per unit * quantity sold) Likewise, deviating from that maximum should result in less profit.

Learn to math, Nibroc.

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

That's a stupid idea. That simply defers payment until a day or two later, thereby not removing any money from the oil companies. If you really want the idea to work, have a "Don't drive on X day". That reduces consumption, and consequently, profit.

coolbeans90

Margins aren't static, but the volume sold is (in conjunction with price mechanisms), ideally, at a level which generates the most profit. (a maximum of profit per unit * quantity sold) Likewise, deviating from that maximum should result in less profit.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] almost as bad as TC's theory.. consumption or volume of sale does not have a direct causation to profit. unless you assume margins to be static where volume between cases is not .......surrealnumber5

Margins aren't static, but the volume sold is (in conjunction with price mechanisms), ideally, at a level which generates the most profit. (a maximum of profit per unit * quantity sold) Likewise, deviating from that maximum should result in less profit.

You definitely can't assume that margins will increase enough to recuperate lost volume. Sure, they go up, but it can only go up so far before additional loss in volume matches the increased return per unit sold. The quantity sold deviates from the level of the maximum. I'm not arguing for the idea, but it would hit the pockets of gas stations.

I wonder if these people know that we get less than half of our oil from the Middle East?

Wasdie

Learn to math, Nibroc.

coolbeans90

Nibroc, please learn to reason quantitatively. It really isn't that difficult. People do not drive for one day. K, now that we have this established, people consequently purchase a reduced amount of gasoline. This alters the profit margin per unit * quantity of units sold away from its peak. This in turn results in reduced profits.

Q.E.D.

Addendum: The stuff you brought up doesn't affect this.

Nibroc, please learn to reason quantitatively. It really isn't that difficult. People do not drive for one day. K, now that we have this established, people consequently purchase a reduced amount of gasoline. This alters the profit margin per unit * quantity of units sold away from its peak. This in turn results in reduced profits.

Q.E.D.

Addendum: The stuff you brought up doesn't affect this.

coolbeans90

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Margins aren't static, but the volume sold is (in conjunction with price mechanisms), ideally, at a level which generates the most profit. (a maximum of profit per unit * quantity sold) Likewise, deviating from that maximum should result in less profit.

coolbeans90

You definitely can't assume that margins will increase enough to recuperate lost volume. Sure, they go up, but it can only go up so far before additional loss in volume matches the increased return per unit sold. The quantity sold deviates from the level of the maximum. I'm not arguing for the idea, but it would hit the pockets of gas stations.

What do I think about it? I think that it's 2012.Hubadubalubahu

[QUOTE="Hubadubalubahu"]What do I think about it? I think that it's 2012.-DirtySanchez-

I honestly would like to see gas prices skyrocket. Maybe people would grow a conscience and start using alternate means of transportation and fuel.

In any case, I don't think not buying gas for a day is going to make that much of a difference -- specially when the campaign is directed only at internet users (and internet users who actually saw the post).

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Nibroc, please learn to reason quantitatively. It really isn't that difficult. People do not drive for one day. K, now that we have this established, people consequently purchase a reduced amount of gasoline. This alters the profit margin per unit * quantity of units sold away from its peak. This in turn results in reduced profits.

Q.E.D.

Addendum: The stuff you brought up doesn't affect this.

Nibroc420

I believe coolbeans proposed no driving instead of no buying gas on the 15th, which would make more sense. Although both ideas are unrealistic.

Nibroc, read before you post. This line of conversation stemmed from the proposed idea that people not drive for a day, not the OP. Go be an idiot somewhere else.

[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Nibroc, please learn to reason quantitatively. It really isn't that difficult. People do not drive for one day. K, now that we have this established, people consequently purchase a reduced amount of gasoline. This alters the profit margin per unit * quantity of units sold away from its peak. This in turn results in reduced profits.

Q.E.D.

Addendum: The stuff you brought up doesn't affect this.

SpartanMSU

I believe coolbeans proposed no driving instead of no buying gas on the 15th, which would make more sense. Although both ideas are unrealistic.

Of course they're both silly ideas, but one would actually put a momentary dent in profits.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"] assuming you can assume, as a no planner, i cant make those assumptions. with less volume i would guess the margins would need to increase to at all make the business profitable. without an adjustment in the margin with a large decrease in volume most stations would just go under. the margins on gas are tiny and its not like there are no fixed operating costs when it comes to gas stations, let alone the variable operational costs. im always going to argue against people who have the hubris to think they can project the actions of otherssurrealnumber5

You definitely can't assume that margins will increase enough to recuperate lost volume. Sure, they go up, but it can only go up so far before additional loss in volume matches the increased return per unit sold. The quantity sold deviates from the level of the maximum. I'm not arguing for the idea, but it would hit the pockets of gas stations.

Of course there would be collusion to raise prices, and to an extent, considering the inelasticity of gas in the short term, there would be profit recouperation, but in all likelyhood, some profits would be lost. We're talking about a one-day plunge here, so I don't think a consolidation of the liquor markets overnight would happen. (not to mention, commie scum have monopolized liquor sales in Va.)

Nibroc, read before you post. This line of conversation stemmed from the proposed idea that people not drive for a day, not the OP. Go be an idiot somewhere else.

coolbeans90

Nibroc, read before you post. This line of conversation stemmed from the proposed idea that people not drive for a day, not the OP. Go be an idiot somewhere else.

coolbeans90

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

Nibroc, read before you post. This line of conversation stemmed from the proposed idea that people not drive for a day, not the OP. Go be an idiot somewhere else.

surrealnumber5

I'm not by any means supporting the idea and definitely wouldn't participate. I think it's idiotic. I'm just showing people how to be a slightly more effective in their metaphorical sticking it to the man. (which mightn't be a good idea, but, whatever)

[QUOTE="surrealnumber5"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]

You definitely can't assume that margins will increase enough to recuperate lost volume. Sure, they go up, but it can only go up so far before additional loss in volume matches the increased return per unit sold. The quantity sold deviates from the level of the maximum. I'm not arguing for the idea, but it would hit the pockets of gas stations.

coolbeans90

Of course there would be collusion to raise prices, and to an extent, considering the inelasticity of gas in the short term, there would be profit recouperation, but in all likelyhood, some profits would be lost. We're talking about a one-day plunge here, so I don't think a consolidation of the liquor markets overnight would happen. (not to mention, commie scum have monopolized liquor sales in Va.)

I'm not seeing the point of doing this.

Don't pump gas on April 15th, so I do not have to wait in line.:P

roulettethedog

Sorry, but thats not going to change anything except people's egos

I love slacktivism.

When American prices match the petrol prices in the UK, then we can talk. Until then you guys over the pond don't know what expensive fuel is.

When American prices match the petrol prices in the UK, then we can talk. Until then you guys over the pond don't know what expensive fuel is.

yuri19

It's your own dumb fault for buying that fancy petrol stuff. Try buying gasoline next time, like we do. It's more affordable than petrol.