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#1 raynimrod
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...but amazingly someone grabs her and stops her falling to her death by holding her around the neck. It's pretty amazing.

"A jilted bride-to-be tried to throw herself from a seven-storey building in China after her boyfriend called off their wedding.

The 22-year-old college student, named only as Miss Li, put on her wedding gown before stepping through the window of the residential building in Changchun, eastern China.

But before she plunged to almost certain death, care worker Guo Zhongfan caught her by the neck and held her as others rushed to help pull her to safety, MSNBC reported."

Full story here.

What do you guys think about this? Would you grab someone like that before they fell to their death, even if you didn't know them? I think I'd freeze in that situation.

This man could have also been hurt or worse, but he did an amazingly couragous thing. I'm surprised the woman was able to breathe while being held like that.

P.S. Sorry if this has already been posted - I looked over the last few pages but couldn't find it.

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#2 Kcube
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Man thats sad but awesome at the same time.

Maybe her and the guy that caught her will hook up?

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#3 sAndroid17
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yeh it'd be cool if she ended up with that guy now

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#4 Amnesiac23
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Wow. That's an amazing story. Nice to see someone come to her rescue.
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#6 XilePrincess
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I think she's a lunatic. Like if my fiance left me and married somebody else, I would just kill myself. I wouldn't put on the dress that I was supposed to marry him in and then kill myself. I think she wanted a reaction and news coverage and whether or not she really wanted to die, I think she wanted to create a scene as a **** you kind of thing to her ex. That's the kind of thing scorned 14 year olds do though, not adult women with brains. All she's doing is proving to him that it's a good damn thing he left because she's crazy.
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#7 chaoscougar1
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That's nuts. That position also looks extremely painful for her, but it is far superior to death
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It would be rather awesome if the guy who saved her ends up hooking up with her.
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#9 poptart
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I'm sure there's a witty caption you could underscore that picture with.

Anyway I just read that too - I liked how they were blowing up a bouncy castle below just in case. But anyway that's heartbreak for you - love is a powerful force which can be terribly destructive when broken (ooo how profound :P).

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#10 entropyecho
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Poor girl. I'm glad she's alive.

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#11 raynimrod
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I'm sure there's a witty caption you could underscore that picture with.

Anyway I just read that too - I liked how they were blowing up a bouncy castle below just in case. But anyway that's heartbreak for you - love is a powerful force which can be terribly destructive when broken (ooo how profound :P).

poptart

Haha, yeah I thought the same thing mate. And Xile, I kind of see where you're coming from, but losing the love of your life can make you go a bit crazy, whether it's an innate characteristic or not.

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#12 foxhound_fox
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I wouldn't be able to do anything other than help.
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#13 Chojuto
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Damn that guy is awesome.
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I think she wanted a reactionXilePrincess
Uh-huh, interesting.
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#15 raynimrod
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I wouldn't be able to do anything other than help.foxhound_fox

I'd want to help too, but I think I'd freak out first :(.

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#16 cain006
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She was doing that for attention. She changed into her wedding dress, and then obviously took her time to jump because there was a large crowd around her. It's cool that those people tried to save her though.

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The Chinese are so wierd.

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#18 chaoscougar1
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She was doing that for attention. She changed into her wedding dress, and then obviously took her time to jump because there was a large crowd around her. It's cool that those people tried to save her though.

cain006
Yeah, I am sure that's why she did it. Committing suicide for the attention, cause she would be able to benefit from it heaps once she hit the ground...
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nice catch :P

seriously I am glad she is alive. Hopefully she realized the second she was saved from death what a horrible idea it was to try and end her life.

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#20 CammiTac
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That's crazy. It can't be very easy to catch a falling human while hanging halfway out a window.

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[QUOTE="leperphiliac"][QUOTE="Johnny_Rock"]

The Chinese are so wierd.

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this isn't even that wierd.
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#22 cain006
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[QUOTE="cain006"]

She was doing that for attention. She changed into her wedding dress, and then obviously took her time to jump because there was a large crowd around her. It's cool that those people tried to save her though.

chaoscougar1

Yeah, I am sure that's why she did it. Committing suicide for the attention, cause she would be able to benefit from it heaps once she hit the ground...

I worded it wrong, I meant she wanted her fiance to feel bad, so she made as big of a deal out of it as possible.

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#23 Chojuto
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="cain006"]

She was doing that for attention. She changed into her wedding dress, and then obviously took her time to jump because there was a large crowd around her. It's cool that those people tried to save her though.

cain006

Yeah, I am sure that's why she did it. Committing suicide for the attention, cause she would be able to benefit from it heaps once she hit the ground...

I worded it wrong, I meant she wanted her fiance to feel bad, so she made as big of a deal out of it as possible.

Well her fiance SHOULD feel bad, so I'm going to have to agree with her theatrics.
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#24 XilePrincess
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[QUOTE="cain006"]

She was doing that for attention. She changed into her wedding dress, and then obviously took her time to jump because there was a large crowd around her. It's cool that those people tried to save her though.

chaoscougar1
Yeah, I am sure that's why she did it. Committing suicide for the attention, cause she would be able to benefit from it heaps once she hit the ground...

If you were really distraught and wanted to kill yourself, you could find a hundred other ways to actually do it that did not involve drawing a crowd. Have you never heard an angsty teenager say "I'll kill myself and then you'll all be sorry you were mean to me!"? That is what this is. Take it from somebody who has contemplated suicide since I was 8. If you really want out and are hurting badly enough that you need to end your life, there are many ways that you can slip away quietly. You don't slip away quietly out of a 7th floor window in a puffy white wedding dress. She could have hung herself, drugged herself, shot herself etc. and nobody would have known until it was over. Whether she wanted to die or not, she wanted to go out and make a statement by doing it. She is no different than the angsty teenager.
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I'm glad the she was alright, but I'm kinda curious as to why MSNBC reported this.
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[QUOTE="poptart"]

I'm sure there's a witty caption you could underscore that picture with.

Anyway I just read that too - I liked how they were blowing up a bouncy castle below just in case. But anyway that's heartbreak for you - love is a powerful force which can be terribly destructive when broken (ooo how profound :P).

raynimrod

Haha, yeah I thought the same thing mate. And Xile, I kind of see where you're coming from, but losing the love of your life can make you go a bit crazy, whether it's an innate characteristic or not.

Yup mate - it's an all encompassing, inescapable feeling of inadequacy, hurt and rejection that really can manifest itself in destructive ways. I would say we are all predisposed to sense love and loss - the stronger the former, the more devastating the latter.

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#27 raynimrod
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If you were really distraught and wanted to kill yourself, you could find a hundred other ways to actually do it that did not involve drawing a crowd. Have you never heard an angsty teenager say "I'll kill myself and then you'll all be sorry you were mean to me!"? That is what this is. Take it from somebody who has contemplated suicide since I was 8. If you really want out and are hurting badly enough that you need to end your life, there are many ways that you can slip away quietly. You don't slip away quietly out of a 7th floor window in a puffy white wedding dress. She could have hung herself, drugged herself, shot herself etc. and nobody would have known until it was over. Whether she wanted to die or not, she wanted to go out and make a statement by doing it. She is no different than the angsty teenager.XilePrincess

I'm pretty sure she wanted her ex to see how he made her feel.

Yup mate - it's an all encompassing, inescapable feeling of inadequacy, hurt and rejection that really can manifest itself in destructive ways. I would say we are all predisposed to sense love and loss - the stronger the former, the more devastating the latter.

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I think you're spot on mate :)

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#28 poptart
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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="cain006"]

She was doing that for attention. She changed into her wedding dress, and then obviously took her time to jump because there was a large crowd around her. It's cool that those people tried to save her though.

XilePrincess

Yeah, I am sure that's why she did it. Committing suicide for the attention, cause she would be able to benefit from it heaps once she hit the ground...

If you were really distraught and wanted to kill yourself, you could find a hundred other ways to actually do it that did not involve drawing a crowd. Have you never heard an angsty teenager say "I'll kill myself and then you'll all be sorry you were mean to me!"? That is what this is. Take it from somebody who has contemplated suicide since I was 8. If you really want out and are hurting badly enough that you need to end your life, there are many ways that you can slip away quietly. You don't slip away quietly out of a 7th floor window in a puffy white wedding dress. She could have hung herself, drugged herself, shot herself etc. and nobody would have known until it was over. Whether she wanted to die or not, she wanted to go out and make a statement by doing it. She is no different than the angsty teenager.

It was a public display, but perhaps the message was directed at the one who caused the anguish. Rejection manifests itself as anger towards the other, and there's a natural drive to make them understand the mental destruction they've caused - anger drives you to make them feel as bad as you do. It's vengeful, and drives normal people to commit some terrible things - some kill there partners, drown there children, etc. All of it's utterly irrational and depicts how powerful such a feeling of rejection can be.

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She can't get anything done it seems.
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#30 poptart
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[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]If you were really distraught and wanted to kill yourself, you could find a hundred other ways to actually do it that did not involve drawing a crowd. Have you never heard an angsty teenager say "I'll kill myself and then you'll all be sorry you were mean to me!"? That is what this is. Take it from somebody who has contemplated suicide since I was 8. If you really want out and are hurting badly enough that you need to end your life, there are many ways that you can slip away quietly. You don't slip away quietly out of a 7th floor window in a puffy white wedding dress. She could have hung herself, drugged herself, shot herself etc. and nobody would have known until it was over. Whether she wanted to die or not, she wanted to go out and make a statement by doing it. She is no different than the angsty teenager.raynimrod

I'm pretty sure she wanted her ex to see how he made her feel.

Yup mate - it's an all encompassing, inescapable feeling of inadequacy, hurt and rejection that really can manifest itself in destructive ways. I would say we are all predisposed to sense love and loss - the stronger the former, the more devastating the latter.

poptart

I think you're spot on mate :)

Yeah I agree that was the point I think - I did just post the same thing in my usual garrolous manner. I must make an effort to cut down on words :P

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It was a public display, but perhaps the message was directed at the one who caused the anguish. Rejection manifests itself as anger towards the other, and there's a natural drive to make them understand the mental destruction they've caused - anger drives you to make them feel as bad as you do. It's vengeful, and drives normal people to commit some terrible things - some kill there partners, drown there children, etc. All of it's utterly irrational and depicts how powerful such a feeling of rejection can be.poptart
Very nicely put and I agree. I also want to say that suicide is suicide. Any suicide attempt is worrying and any serious suicidal ideation is worrying. It's all valid. The woman in this case was clearly serious about her attempt. She felt so badly that she wanted to take her life, and I don't see any "angst" in that but rather pain, anger, and a desire to die, all of which are worrying. I don't think that it's right to mock her or be flippant about it. So what if she chose a more public venue of ending her life? That doesn't make the feelings behind the behavior any less valid. The notion that suffering in silence is the only sort of valid suffering is quite silly.
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#32 raynimrod
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Yeah I agree that was the point I think - I did just post the same thing in my usual garrolous manner. I must make an effort to cut down on words :P

poptart

Please don't! I love your garrulous approach to conversation haha.

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#33 XilePrincess
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I'm pretty sure she wanted her ex to see how he made her feel.

raynimrod

It was a public display, but perhaps the message was directed at the one who caused the anguish.

poptart

:/ That is EXACTLY what I'm saying. She did it publicly to get attention, so her ex would know, that's why she made a spectacle of it. She wanted the attention. If all she wanted was to die, she could have done that quietly. That was the point I was attempting to make, she wanted him to know so she caused a big scene.

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#34 raynimrod
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[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

I'm pretty sure she wanted her ex to see how he made her feel.

XilePrincess

It was a public display, but perhaps the message was directed at the one who caused the anguish.

poptart

:/ That is EXACTLY what I'm saying. She did it publicly to get attention, so her ex would know, that's why she made a spectacle of it. She wanted the attention. If all she wanted was to die, she could have done that quietly. That was the point I was attempting to make, she wanted him to know so she caused a big scene.

We're fully aware of that, but you made it out as if it was something only crazy people would do out of selfishness, not genuine anguish and despair. That's what you made it sound like anyway. The unquoted substance in Poptart's posts clearly allude to this.

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#35 MrGeezer
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What do you guys think about this? Would you grab someone like that before they fell to their death, even if you didn't know them? I think I'd freeze in that situation.

raynimrod

Nope.

While I don't advocate suicide, if someone wants to die then who am I to argue?

In any case, trying to stop her could easily result in ME plummetting to my death. And I don't want to die yet. So I'd feel pretty damn silly accidentally getting myself killed just in order to try to save the life of someone who wants to die anyway.

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She should marry him! this would be a great asian novela.. someone make it!
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#37 MrGeezer
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Well her fiance SHOULD feel bad, so I'm going to have to agree with her theatrics. Chojuto

So...you think that his fiance should have entered into an unhappy marriage, and then spend the rest of his life wishing that HE was dead?

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[QUOTE="Chojuto"]Well her fiance SHOULD feel bad, so I'm going to have to agree with her theatrics. MrGeezer

So...you think that his fiance should have entered into an unhappy marriage, and then spend the rest of his life wishing that HE was dead?

i think the correct choice would have been making sure he wanted to marry her before he asked her.
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We're fully aware of that, but you made it out as if it was something only crazy people would do out of selfishness, not genuine anguish and despair. That's what you made it sound like anyway. The unquoted substance in Poptart's posts clearly allude to this.

raynimrod

I'd say that it is monstrously selfish.

Doing that kind of **** in a public setting potentially results in the deaths of people who had absolutely nothing to do with her pain and anguish. That guy who saved her was totally innocent in all this, and her actions easily could have caused him to DIE. And yet, that's somehow to be secondary to her supposed right to send a final "**** you" to the man who made her sad?

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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="Chojuto"]Well her fiance SHOULD feel bad, so I'm going to have to agree with her theatrics. Sword-Demon

So...you think that his fiance should have entered into an unhappy marriage, and then spend the rest of his life wishing that HE was dead?

i think the correct choice would have been making sure he wanted to marry her before he asked her.

Well, I'm pretty sure that China recently banned time travel, thus making it impossible for the guy to go back in time and undo his mistake.

It's sort of hard to unask her after he already freaking asked her. Which really only leaves him with two options. He can call off the marriage, or marry her anyway even though he totally doesn't want to. Neither course of action should result in ANYONE pubicly trying to commit suicide.

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[QUOTE="Sword-Demon"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

So...you think that his fiance should have entered into an unhappy marriage, and then spend the rest of his life wishing that HE was dead?

MrGeezer

i think the correct choice would have been making sure he wanted to marry her before he asked her.

Well, I'm pretty sure that China recently banned time travel, thus making it impossible for the guy to go back in time and undo his mistake.

It's sort of hard to unask her after he already freaking asked her. Which really only leaves him with two options. He can call off the marriage, or marry her anyway even though he totally doesn't want to. Neither course of action should result in ANYONE pubicly trying to commit suicide.

I do agree with you there, but some (well...lots of) people let their emotions completely take them over which results in them doing questionable things like (for example) attempting suicide over (ultimately) trivial matters.

We are strange beings :shock:

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Damn dude, nice catch. "I just did what anyone else would have" Modest too. That's very unfortunate for her, no one deserves to get played like that.
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Cool his internal compass made him act in time, since contemplations would not of been fast enough to save her. However, the act itself with all context of the dress, pretty much deems her as a crazy lady. Him getting with her could mean waking up to her in that wedding dress with a knife to his throat for her insecurities.
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[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

We're fully aware of that, but you made it out as if it was something only crazy people would do out of selfishness, not genuine anguish and despair. That's what you made it sound like anyway. The unquoted substance in Poptart's posts clearly allude to this.

MrGeezer

I'd say that it is monstrously selfish.

Doing that kind of **** in a public setting potentially results in the deaths of people who had absolutely nothing to do with her pain and anguish. That guy who saved her was totally innocent in all this, and her actions easily could have caused him to DIE. And yet, that's somehow to be secondary to her supposed right to send a final "**** you" to the man who made her sad?

Yes it's monstrously selfish from the perspective of the observer trying to supplant their own sense of rationale to her situation, although it's worth pointing out that in that moment of madness sitting on the window ledge she had probably lost all sense of rational thought, or rather it had been replaced by some warped rationale that those reading about it can't comprehend.

I wouldn't say it's her fault nor lay any blame or attribute any notion of selfishness, more that it's just a terrible situation in which no-one benefits, and one we hear about time and time again caused by love lost. Human nature I guess.

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#45 MrGeezer
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Yes it's monstrously selfish from the perspective of the rational observer, although it's worth pointing out that in that moment of madness sitting on the window ledge she had probably lost all sense of rational thought, or rather it had been replaced by some warped rational that those reading about it can't comprehend.

I wouldn't say it's her fault nor lay any blame or attribute any notion of selfishness, more that it's just a terrible situation in which no-one benefits, and one we hear about time and time again caused by love lost. Human nature I guess.

poptart

By that same token, the fiance might have called off the wedding because he was so scared that he freaked out. If we can't blame her for causing a situation which damn near resulted in the death of an innocent observer, then I think that pretty much leaves the fiance blameless as well. She might not have been thinking rationally, and the same applies for him.

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#47 poptart
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[QUOTE="poptart"]

Yes it's monstrously selfish from the perspective of the rational observer, although it's worth pointing out that in that moment of madness sitting on the window ledge she had probably lost all sense of rational thought, or rather it had been replaced by some warped rational that those reading about it can't comprehend.

I wouldn't say it's her fault nor lay any blame or attribute any notion of selfishness, more that it's just a terrible situation in which no-one benefits, and one we hear about time and time again caused by love lost. Human nature I guess.

MrGeezer

By that same token, the fiance might have called off the wedding because he was so scared that he freaked out. If we can't blame her for causing a situation which damn near resulted in the death of an innocent observer, then I think that pretty much leaves the fiance blameless as well. She might not have been thinking rationally, and the same applies for him.

I don't think anyone's to blame here, more just a sad and unfortunate situation that could have ended tragically but thankfully didn't. Although inadvertently she may have harmed someone else in the process, her intent I assume was only self-harm, which really is quite terrible for the poor lass. Finger wagging and attributing blame I don't think will help anyone, nor would punishment.

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#48 Kcube
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She can't get anything done it seems.KiIIyou

Next time she should plan ahead

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#49 raynimrod
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We're fully aware of that, but you made it out as if it was something only crazy people would do out of selfishness, not genuine anguish and despair. That's what you made it sound like anyway. The unquoted substance in Poptart's posts clearly allude to this.

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I'd say that it is monstrously selfish.

Doing that kind of **** in a public setting potentially results in the deaths of people who had absolutely nothing to do with her pain and anguish. That guy who saved her was totally innocent in all this, and her actions easily could have caused him to DIE. And yet, that's somehow to be secondary to her supposed right to send a final "**** you" to the man who made her sad?

I think Poptart responded to this more than adequately enough :).

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#50 poptart
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[QUOTE="MrGeezer"]

[QUOTE="raynimrod"]

We're fully aware of that, but you made it out as if it was something only crazy people would do out of selfishness, not genuine anguish and despair. That's what you made it sound like anyway. The unquoted substance in Poptart's posts clearly allude to this.

raynimrod

I'd say that it is monstrously selfish.

Doing that kind of **** in a public setting potentially results in the deaths of people who had absolutely nothing to do with her pain and anguish. That guy who saved her was totally innocent in all this, and her actions easily could have caused him to DIE. And yet, that's somehow to be secondary to her supposed right to send a final "**** you" to the man who made her sad?

I think Poptart responded to this more than adequately enough :).

Apologies for stepping on your shoes fella :P