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[QUOTE="ionusX"]
[QUOTE="lordreaven"] yay...............lordreaven

could be worse....

I was too lazy to put a smily, I meant it as a happy thing. But meh. I'll flee to Singapore, I hear it's nice there.

oh well see yeah raven.. may the father of pastilence go with you..

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no more gilles duceppe zomg!!!

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#103 Former_Slacker

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I find it hilarious you guys voted in the people who were found to be in contempt of parliament with a majority. Maybe this will be entertaining after all.

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#105 lordreaven

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[QUOTE="ionusX"]

[QUOTE="lordreaven"]

[QUOTE="ionusX"]

could be worse....

I was too lazy to put a smily, I meant it as a happy thing. But meh. I'll flee to Singapore, I hear it's nice there.

oh well see yeah raven.. may the father of pastilence go with you..

I will spread Papa Nurgles word to the many people of Singapore, and free them from their fears of death and they shall embrace the marverlous gifts of papa nurgle.

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[QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] :| read their budget then?

I went to "Budget 2011" on their website. It's still very vague. Seriously, as far as I can tell the conservatives platform is all about preventing Jack Layton from murdering kittens. At least that's what the T.V. ads say.

I think you're overestimating the attack ads, and they were used by all parties, not just the tories.

I don't know what T.V. your watching, but I've ONCE seen a liberal ad that was merely acting in self defense, saying that there were no plans for a coalition, half a dozen ads for the Green Party, and I've lost count of the number of Anti-Ignatieff ads I've seen since back in March, and anti Jack Layton ads ever since the NDP started gaining power.

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#107 EliteM0nk3y

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From my perspective, it certainly seems that the position of political parties in Canada is much more volatile than in the U.S.
coolbeans90

We have Quebec, makes things interesting :P

(Not meant as an insult)

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It seems to me that that the position of political parties in Canada is much more volatile than the U.S.
coolbeans90

The country is less partisan than the US for the most part. Party of the issue being we have 2 left wing parties and one "right" wing party (which is usually quite moderate). Harper himself has basically played nice the last few years and kept the fact he's very religious under wrap which makes him more appealing to the undecided as he's already the leader and nothing too terrible has happened yet under him. I think alot of people who usually vote Liberal were pushed to the conservative vote because Iggy was such a terrible prospect for PM. Waaaay too much dirt on him.

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I find it hilarious you guys voted in the people who were found to be in contempt of parliament with a majority. Maybe this will be entertaining after all.
Former_Slacker

They were voted "in contempt" because the other parties wanted to remove them from power and needed the slander to do that. Thank god it didn't work.

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#110 lordreaven

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no more gilles duceppe zomg!!!
ionusX

Yeah, at least something good came out of this.

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#111 redstorm72

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So... any thoughts on the future of the Liberal Party?
Is this a nadir from which they will return, or are they finished, and will the two major parties in Canadian politics now be the Conservatives and the NDP? In four short elections they've gone from four solid majorities to barely hanging on.
GabuEx

They have been around for over 100 years, the Liberals aren't going anywhere. The NDP gain is only short term, people were tired of elections and the NDP seemed like a good "protest" vote. Once the next election roles around and the NDP have managed to accoplish nothing, things will start to revert back to the way they were. The Liberals need a solid leader (Justin Trudeau anyone?) and to get back to a party message that speaks to the Canadian people.

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#112 Idontremember

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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]
From my perspective, it certainly seems that the position of political parties in Canada is much more volatile than in the U.S.
EliteM0nk3y

We have Quebec, makes things interesting :P

(Not meant as an insult)

No offence taken!!!

We are a random wild bunch afterall, but he!!! WE LOVE IT!!!

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[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Tylendal"] I went to "Budget 2011" on their website. It's still very vague. Seriously, as far as I can tell the conservatives platform is all about preventing Jack Layton from murdering kittens. At least that's what the T.V. ads say.

I think you're overestimating the attack ads, and they were used by all parties, not just the tories.

I don't know what T.V. your watching, but I've ONCE seen a liberal ad that was merely acting in self defense, saying that there were no plans for a coalition, half a dozen ads for the Green Party, and I've lost count of the number of Anti-Ignatieff ads I've seen since back in March, and anti Jack Layton ads ever since the NDP started gaining power.

Seriously? I see Liberal attack ads all the time, NDP ones are a little rarer, but they're still around.

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[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"][QUOTE="Tylendal"] I went to "Budget 2011" on their website. It's still very vague. Seriously, as far as I can tell the conservatives platform is all about preventing Jack Layton from murdering kittens. At least that's what the T.V. ads say.

I think you're overestimating the attack ads, and they were used by all parties, not just the tories.

I don't know what T.V. your watching, but I've ONCE seen a liberal ad that was merely acting in self defense, saying that there were no plans for a coalition, half a dozen ads for the Green Party, and I've lost count of the number of Anti-Ignatieff ads I've seen since back in March, and anti Jack Layton ads ever since the NDP started gaining power.

I agree I didn't see a single NDP attack ad and very few liberal attack ads. I didn't see a single non-attack ad by the conservatives. I honestly doubt political ads have much weight anyway.

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#115 Former_Slacker

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[QUOTE="Former_Slacker"]
I find it hilarious you guys voted in the people who were found to be in contempt of parliament with a majority. Maybe this will be entertaining after all.
Nibroc420

They were voted "in contempt" because the other parties wanted to remove them from power and needed the slander to do that. Thank god it didn't work.

As I am not Canadian, I have no interest in arguing with you; good day.

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#116 Idontremember

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Damnit!!!

I live in Quebec

For once, we give the boot to the Bloc, but on the otherside, the west votes again for the wannabe republicans!!!

Thats upsetting!!!!

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#117 haziqonfire

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First Rob Ford in Toronto, now this. What is my life.

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Damnit!!!
I live in Quebec

For once, we give the boot to the Bloc, but on the otherside, the west votes again for the wannabe republicans!!!

Thats upsetting!!!!
Idontremember

Don't blame Southern Vancouver Island and Vancouver, we voted NDP.

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#119 coolbeans90

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[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]
It seems to me that that the position of political parties in Canada is much more volatile than the U.S.
Ace6301

The country is less partisan than the US for the most part. Party of the issue being we have 2 left wing parties and one "right" wing party (which is usually quite moderate). Harper himself has basically played nice the last few years and kept the fact he's very religious under wrap which makes him more appealing to the undecided as he's already the leader and nothing too terrible has happened yet under him. I think alot of people who usually vote Liberal were pushed to the conservative vote because Iggy was such a terrible prospect for PM. Waaaay too much dirt on him.

Interesting. Would it be fair to say that the Canadian electorate is more willing than its U.S. counterpart to abandon their ideolgical platform in order to oust a poor candidate that is representative of their party? I am not certain (in fact I am rather ignorant of) how the political structure of Canada actually works, but in the U.S., a poor party leader would have a negative effect on the party results as a whole, but not nearly comparable to the results in this election.

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[QUOTE="Idontremember"]
Damnit!!!
I live in Quebec

For once, we give the boot to the Bloc, but on the otherside, the west votes again for the wannabe republicans!!!

Thats upsetting!!!!
Ace6301

Don't blame Southern Vancouver Island and Vancouver, we voted NDP.

Actually, I voted Green, but only to give their overall percentage a boost. NDP winning was a foregone conclusion in my riding, and I'm happy with that. I just wish that we had proportional representation, so that every vote would count. The fact that a party with 39% of the popular vote is a majority is ludicrous.

13 years ago

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#121 Idontremember

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[QUOTE="Tylendal"][QUOTE="Nibroc420"] I think you're overestimating the attack ads, and they were used by all parties, not just the tories.Ace6301

I don't know what T.V. your watching, but I've ONCE seen a liberal ad that was merely acting in self defense, saying that there were no plans for a coalition, half a dozen ads for the Green Party, and I've lost count of the number of Anti-Ignatieff ads I've seen since back in March, and anti Jack Layton ads ever since the NDP started gaining power.

I agree I didn't see a single NDP attack ad and very few liberal attack ads. I didn't see a single non-attack ad by the conservatives. I honestly doubt political ads have much weight anyway.

On french TV, the liberals attaked quite a lot the conservatives and bloc at the beginning, but after that, it all became an NDP intense bashing!
Conservatives attaked the bloc and liberals, and NPD, well, they attaked the conservatives a bit,, but they mostly played the savior card!!!

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Member since 2008 • 3387 Posts

Seriously? I see Liberal attack ads all the time, NDP ones are a little rarer, but they're still around.Nibroc420

The majority of the ads I saw were conservative. NDP and Liberal were about even I think

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#123 I_Liek_Rawkz

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I'd like to personally thank the New Democratic Party for their actions in taking many seats from the Bloc. Bravo!

13 years ago

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#124 Idontremember

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[QUOTE="Idontremember"]
Damnit!!!
I live in Quebec

For once, we give the boot to the Bloc, but on the otherside, the west votes again for the wannabe republicans!!!

Thats upsetting!!!!
Ace6301

Don't blame Southern Vancouver Island and Vancouver, we voted NDP.

You're right!!!

My bad!!!

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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]
It seems to me that that the position of political parties in Canada is much more volatile than the U.S.
coolbeans90

The country is less partisan than the US for the most part. Party of the issue being we have 2 left wing parties and one "right" wing party (which is usually quite moderate). Harper himself has basically played nice the last few years and kept the fact he's very religious under wrap which makes him more appealing to the undecided as he's already the leader and nothing too terrible has happened yet under him. I think alot of people who usually vote Liberal were pushed to the conservative vote because Iggy was such a terrible prospect for PM. Waaaay too much dirt on him.

Interesting. Would it be fair to say that the Canadian electorate is more willing than its U.S. counterpart to abandon their ideolgical platform in order to oust a poor candidate that is representative of their party? I am not certain (in fact I am rather ignorant of) how the political structure of Canada actually works, but in the U.S., a poor party leader would have a negative effect on the party results as a whole, but not nearly comparable to the results in this election.

I would say this election shows they probably are more willing to vote against their usual party if they disliked it's leader. I know someone who for the first time voted against the Liberal party because it's leader was a very poor choice. We're less party loyal here I think. There's always exceptions of course but Canada is generally much less partisan than the US.

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#126 redstorm72

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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]
It seems to me that that the position of political parties in Canada is much more volatile than the U.S.
coolbeans90

The country is less partisan than the US for the most part. Party of the issue being we have 2 left wing parties and one "right" wing party (which is usually quite moderate). Harper himself has basically played nice the last few years and kept the fact he's very religious under wrap which makes him more appealing to the undecided as he's already the leader and nothing too terrible has happened yet under him. I think alot of people who usually vote Liberal were pushed to the conservative vote because Iggy was such a terrible prospect for PM. Waaaay too much dirt on him.

Interesting. Would it be fair to say that the Canadian electorate is more willing than its U.S. counterpart to abandon their ideolgical platform in order to oust a poor candidate that is representative of their party? I am not certain (in fact I am rather ignorant of) how the political structure of Canada actually works, but in the U.S., a poor party leader would have a negative effect on the party results as a whole, but not nearly comparable to the results in this election.

Yeah, in Canada we change our political beliefs on a whim. People won't vote for a leader (even if they believe in the parties policies) just because he lived in another country or speaks with a heavy accent. I've been in many political arguments with people and the vast majority of them vote for a party because they don't trust any of the other leaders, it has nothing to do with their political beliefs. All that to say, the vast majority of Canadians are idiots.

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#128 foxhound_fox

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I fear for the day Harper starts using his newly acquired power.

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#129 haziqonfire

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I fear for the day Harper starts using his newly acquired power.foxhound_fox

I think many of us do, you're not alone. At least the NDP gathered more support and the bloc is basically gone - Now if only FTPT was switched over to Popular Voting, I'd be happy.

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#130 BURSTIIIFIRE

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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]
So... any thoughts on the future of the Liberal Party?
Is this a nadir from which they will return, or are they finished, and will the two major parties in Canadian politics now be the Conservatives and the NDP? In four short elections they've gone from four solid majorities to barely hanging on.
redstorm72

They have been around for over 100 years, the Liberals aren't going anywhere. The NDP gain is only short term, people were tired of elections and the NDP seemed like a good "protest" vote. Once the next election roles around and the NDP have managed to accoplish nothing, things will start to revert back to the way they were. The Liberals need a solid leader (Justin Trudeau anyone?) and to get back to a party message that speaks to the Canadian people.

Well said, I know tons of ppl who always went Liberal but didn't this time because they dont belive in Ignatieff as a leader.

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#131 Idontremember

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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Idontremember"]
Damnit!!!
I live in Quebec

For once, we give the boot to the Bloc, but on the otherside, the west votes again for the wannabe republicans!!!

Thats upsetting!!!!
Tylendal

Don't blame Southern Vancouver Island and Vancouver, we voted NDP.

Actually, I voted Green, but only to give their overall percentage a boost. NDP winning was a foregone conclusion in my riding, and I'm happy with that. I just wish that we had proportional representation, so that every vote would count. The fact that a party with 39% of the popular vote is a majority is ludicrous.

Same for me, it was an NDP carnage!!
When the time came to chose, I felt sad for the liberals and decided to sink with the ship!!!

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#132 lonewolf604

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I feel like a complete dumbass for not knowing anything about the different parties and their policies......and I voted too....

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I think it's a great thing that people change their opinions and their vote based on recent events. The last thing we need is American-style politics where political parties are extreme, 90% of the states are firmly red or blue regardless of the actual issues at hand, and a couple states here and there that can go either way.

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#134 coolbeans90

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I think it's a great thing that people change their opinions and their vote based on recent events. The last thing we need is American-style politics where political parties are extreme, 90% of the states are firmly red or blue regardless of the actual issues at hand, and a couple states here and there that can go either way.F1_2004

While I would agree with that statement in and of itself, but it seems to me that you guys are changing your votes because of people's reputations instead of how said votes would affect the course of politics. Of course, I can't say that with any authority on the matter.

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#135 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8

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Hey Liberal supporters...

(Note for other users: This was all ment in good fun, not to be offensive. I mostly wanted to share a quick photoshop job of mine)

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Thank you NDP for splitting the Liberal vote and allowing the Conservatives to win majority! On a side note BQ got crushed!

I'm looking forward to the next 4 years.

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Hey Liberal supporters...

darkspineslayer

I think many of us don't care NDP stealing votes from Liberals; we just didn't want to see the Conservatives in majority.

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no more gilles duceppe zomg!!!
ionusX

A victory for all Canadians.

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Thank you NDP for splitting the Liberal vote and allowing the Conservatives to win majority! On a side note BQ got crushed!
I'm looking forward to the next 4 years.
NVIDIATI

If I may ask: Why?

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#140 the_ChEeSe_mAn2

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Oh well. Only 4 years left of this, right? :P

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[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]
Thank you NDP for splitting the Liberal vote and allowing the Conservatives to win majority! On a side note BQ got crushed!
I'm looking forward to the next 4 years.
Ace6301

If I may ask: Why?

Almost everything the Conservatives want will benefit myself, my friends and family. Not to mention I think they'll do a decent job.

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#142 redstorm72

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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]
Thank you NDP for splitting the Liberal vote and allowing the Conservatives to win majority! On a side note BQ got crushed!
I'm looking forward to the next 4 years.
NVIDIATI

If I may ask: Why?

Almost everything the Conservatives want will benefit myself, my friends and family. Not to mention I think they'll do a decent job.

Are you rich?

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[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]
[QUOTE="Ace6301"]If I may ask: Why?redstorm72

Almost everything the Conservatives want will benefit myself, my friends and family. Not to mention I think they'll do a decent job.

Are you rich?

or a jet fighter pilot?

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#144 Lonelynight

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Does this mean Canada will become more like the U.S. now?

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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]
Thank you NDP for splitting the Liberal vote and allowing the Conservatives to win majority! On a side note BQ got crushed!
I'm looking forward to the next 4 years.
NVIDIATI

If I may ask: Why?

Almost everything the Conservatives want will benefit myself, my friends and family. Not to mention I think they'll do a decent job.

Wait, you actually know what the conservatives plan to do? Please tell me, because I don't have the slightest clue.

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Member since 2010 • 8463 Posts

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]
[QUOTE="Ace6301"] If I may ask: Why?redstorm72

Almost everything the Conservatives want will benefit myself, my friends and family. Not to mention I think they'll do a decent job.

Are you rich?

Upper middle class, though most of my family is pretty well to do.

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#148 TheMadGamer

Member since 2003 • 8670 Posts

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]
[QUOTE="redstorm72"]
Are you rich?
redstorm72

Upper middle class, though most of my family is pretty well to do.

Ah, I see, so f*** everyone else because you got yours, right?

Yikes, that was harsh...expect to get moderated for that comment.

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[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]
[QUOTE="Ace6301"] If I may ask: Why?Tylendal

Almost everything the Conservatives want will benefit myself, my friends and family. Not to mention I think they'll do a decent job.

Wait, you actually know what the conservatives plan to do? Please tell me, because I don't have the slightest clue.

Create a mess obviously :P Though corporate tax cuts is what appeals the most, to bring it down to 15% from the current 16.5%. Obviously being politics I wouldn't be sure of everything they plan now that they have such power. Until they act everything is just talk. Interesting though that the NDP have gained so much power considering they're polar opposites to the Conservatives.

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