Elvis or The Beatles?

The Beatles... they wrote their own music... >_>zakkro

I'm pretty sure the umbrella song was written by that... :roll: 'umbrella-song-singer'

[QUOTE="King_Creole_35"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="King_Creole_35"]Elvis Presley and the Beatles are the two most influential rock artists who ever walked the earth, and they both changed the world with their music. But which one do you like more and why? Obviously, I like Elvis more, he had a better voice and was just more talented than the Beatles. Don't get me wrong, the Beatles were a great band, too, but Elvis is just better. EboyLOL

Must have been. One time I saw this youtube video that said Frank Zappa, John Lennon, and Yoko Ono performing at the Fillmore or something and I thought "Wow, I can't believe two of my favorite musicians are performing on stage, together." So I start watching and Yoko Ono COMPLETELY ruins it. She was ****ing screeching. Not singing, screeching. Pissed me off. :xwhos_next000

Screeching is all she does....

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="PickGlove243"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="zepman71"]

Yeah, its from The White Album. Its a shame he got overshadowed by the Lennon/McCartney partnership.....but he wrote some great songs...Taxman for example

PickGlove243

Really? I can't stand his solo music. Mostly because the only thing my sister listens to is George Harrison, and I've gotten sick of his music.

I don't remember having heard any of those songs.

The album I was talking about is Cloud Nine. It's sooooo boring, but I have to listen to it every time we're in the car :cry:

[QUOTE="zakkro"]The Beatles... they wrote their own music... >_>DarkKar

I'm pretty sure the umbrella song was written by that... :roll: 'umbrella-song-singer'

[QUOTE="DarkKar"]

[QUOTE="zakkro"]The Beatles... they wrote their own music... >_>zakkro

I'm pretty sure the umbrella song was written by that... :roll: 'umbrella-song-singer'

Me either apparently. I'm trying to find the song, google isn't helping me with that artist name.

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="King_Creole_35"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="King_Creole_35"]Elvis Presley and the Beatles are the two most influential rock artists who ever walked the earth, and they both changed the world with their music. But which one do you like more and why? Obviously, I like Elvis more, he had a better voice and was just more talented than the Beatles. Don't get me wrong, the Beatles were a great band, too, but Elvis is just better. King_Creole_35

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="King_Creole_35"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="King_Creole_35"]Elvis Presley and the Beatles are the two most influential rock artists who ever walked the earth, and they both changed the world with their music. But which one do you like more and why? Obviously, I like Elvis more, he had a better voice and was just more talented than the Beatles. Don't get me wrong, the Beatles were a great band, too, but Elvis is just better. King_Creole_35

That's not true. Music probably wouldn't have been affected that much if they never existed.

[QUOTE="zakkro"][QUOTE="DarkKar"]

[QUOTE="zakkro"]The Beatles... they wrote their own music... >_>DarkKar

I'm pretty sure the umbrella song was written by that... :roll: 'umbrella-song-singer'

Me either apparently. I'm trying to find the song, google isn't helping me with that artist name.

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]I already said I was being sarcastic. Don't you read?
LJS9502_basic

I was being sarcastic in terms of the 'the Beatles suck' thing. You were ripping on them for very unsound reasons.
quiglythegreat

And the difference between "ripping on them" and "sucks" is what? Same meaning really. Next time read your entire post dude.

And you've yet to support EITHER statement....sarcastic or not.

[QUOTE="PickGlove243"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="PickGlove243"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="zepman71"]

Yeah, its from The White Album. Its a shame he got overshadowed by the Lennon/McCartney partnership.....but he wrote some great songs...Taxman for example

EboyLOL

Really? I can't stand his solo music. Mostly because the only thing my sister listens to is George Harrison, and I've gotten sick of his music.

I don't remember having heard any of those songs.

The album I was talking about is Cloud Nine. It's sooooo boring, but I have to listen to it every time we're in the car :cry:

Well, I probably won't be buying it anytime soon, but my dad or sister might like it.

The Beatles... they wrote their own music... >_>zakkro

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"] Isn't It a Pity, My Sweet Lord, Beware of Darkness, Wah-Wah, What is Life... I enjoy the Beatles, but I think his solo work showcases excellent songwriting.LJS9502_basic

I never liked any of George Harrison's music TBH.

Hey, hey, hey, sarcasm doesn't need support. Have I even made any claims? You don't really know. Read next time.
quiglythegreat

Hey, hey, hey...total cop out.:roll: Read next time.

[QUOTE="DarkKar"][QUOTE="zakkro"][QUOTE="DarkKar"]

[QUOTE="zakkro"]The Beatles... they wrote their own music... >_>zakkro

I'm pretty sure the umbrella song was written by that... :roll: 'umbrella-song-singer'

Me either apparently. I'm trying to find the song, google isn't helping me with that artist name.

I'm thinking of a crappy song by a crappy hiphop artist. It's best if you turn a deaf ear to it.

Hey, hey, hey, sarcasm doesn't need support. Have I even made any claims? You don't really know. Read next time.
quiglythegreat

And so it begins.

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]Hey, hey, hey, sarcasm doesn't need support. Have I even made any claims? You don't really know. Read next time.
LJS9502_basic

Hey, hey, hey...total cop out.:roll: Read next time.

Whoa, whoa, whoa whoa, I did read, you were the one who forgot what you said. You insisted that you were simply commenting that they were a pop band in a totally innocent context, not meant to degrade the Beatles at all. You mentioned this in response to someone saying that they were brilliant, more or less. I'm not copping out.
quiglythegreat

And I've asked you three or four times to provide that proof....and all you say is "sarcasm" which is a cop out because there is no proof and you obviously didn't read the entire thread.

Now either change the tune or show me where I said The Beatles sucked...because it's not true.

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] Whoa, whoa, whoa whoa, I did read, you were the one who forgot what you said. You insisted that you were simply commenting that they were a pop band in a totally innocent context, not meant to degrade the Beatles at all. You mentioned this in response to someone saying that they were brilliant, more or less. I'm not copping out.
LJS9502_basic

And I've asked you three or four times to provide that proof....and all you say is "sarcasm" which is a cop out because there is no proof and you obviously didn't read the entire thread.

Now either change the tune or show me where I said The Beatles sucked...because it's a downright lie.

I'll explain this once more. I summarized your argument and then threw in 'the Beatles suck' for satirical purposes. Now, you may not actually think badly of the Beatles. But your post indicated that you were trying to take away from a point made by another post claiming that they were brilliant and expanded their genre. I disagreed and said that your counterpoint held no water to the musical greatness of the Beatles. Then it began.
quiglythegreat

Let me explain the facts to you.....I never said anything negative about The Beatles. They were a pop band. Fact.

The Beatles are great only to those that appreciate their particular music. You can find just as many that don't appreciate it. Fact.

You need to learn the difference between stating a fact and expressing an opinion. My comment was fact...not opinion on the musical merits of The Beatles. Fact.

You are incorrect....and STILL haven't shown one comment I made against the actual talent of The Beatles. Fact. You fail.

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]I'll explain this once more. I summarized your argument and then threw in 'the Beatles suck' for satirical purposes. Now, you may not actually think badly of the Beatles. But your post indicated that you were trying to take away from a point made by another post claiming that they were brilliant and expanded their genre. I disagreed and said that your counterpoint held no water to the musical greatness of the Beatles. Then it began.
LJS9502_basic

Let me explain the facts to you.....I never said anything negative about The Beatles. They were a pop band. Fact.

The Beatles are great only to those that appreciate their particular music. You can find just as many that don't appreciate it. Fact.

You need to learn the difference between stating a fact and expressing an opinion. My comment was fact...not opinion on the musical merits of The Beatles. Fact.

You are incorrect....and STILL haven't shown one comment I made against the actual talent of The Beatles. Fact. You fail.

Interesting you talk about subjectivity. Failure is an excellent example of this. Its concept changes so much throughout different cultures. In certain American cultures, failure is poverty, divorce, drug addiction, etc. In others, poverty and substance abuse are glorified (hair metal, the Beat generation, etc.) Much of Western civilization views suicide as hideously immoral; in Japan is at times viewed as honorable. Many Americans view military service as a tremendous acheivement; others through paint on veterans at airports. Often times, intelligent Gamespot posters own other Gamespot posters, yet the owned may at times declare the other's failure. In medieval Europe, girls had to save themselves for marriage; now they are ostracized for remaining virgins just throughout their teenage years. Religiously devout cultures despise atheists; Basques are fifty per cent atheist and almost look down upon believers, a phenomenon often observed on this very board. I could go on and on, but you get the idea.
quiglythegreat

Wrong. You stated I ripped the Beatles. I did not. You stated I said they sucked. I did not. I asked for proof. You provided none. Equals failure my man.

Typing a paragraph on failure doesn't change that. Wasn't even interesting.:)

i don't care for either but i think i'll go with elvis the pelvis for not being a hippie. dissonantblack

Herpes over free love, yaay!

[QUOTE="MronoC"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="MronoC"]Who's more talented, an artist who creates in multiple genres or an artist who vastly expands the genre they work in?LJS9502_basic

Neither necessarily defines talent....

You are aware that initially The Beatles were a pop boy band.....and at concerts the music couldn't even be heard.;)

I believe this post could be stated (with the flexibilites of truth due to the nature of a subjective world) to 'rip' on the Beatles to some extent. Note especially the use of emoticons, that--although entirely subjective--may leave with one the impression of being perhaps mildly derogatory of the British rock group known as the Beatles. However, one absolutely must bear in mind the subjectivity of nautre (and especially failure) in order to fully understand the opinions presented in this and other posts.
quiglythegreat

Dude...cut the crap. You implied I said something I didn't. You were wrong. Give it up...it's boring...and doesn't change the facts.

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]Interesting you talk about subjectivity. Failure is an excellent example of this. Its concept changes so much throughout different cultures. In certain American cultures, failure is poverty, divorce, drug addiction, etc. In others, poverty and substance abuse are glorified (hair metal, the Beat generation, etc.) Much of Western civilization views suicide as hideously immoral; in Japan is at times viewed as honorable. Many Americans view military service as a tremendous acheivement; others through paint on veterans at airports. Often times, intelligent Gamespot posters own other Gamespot posters, yet the owned may at times declare the other's failure. In medieval Europe, girls had to save themselves for marriage; now they are ostracized for remaining virgins just throughout their teenage years. Religiously devout cultures despise atheists; Basques are fifty per cent atheist and almost look down upon believers, a phenomenon often observed on this very board. I could go on and on, but you get the idea.
LJS9502_basic

Wrong. You stated I ripped the Beatles. I did not. You stated I said they sucked. I did not. I asked for proof. You provided none. Equals failure my man.

Typing a paragraph on failure doesn't change that. Wasn't even interesting.:)

http://www.ustaxreform.us/5155.htm

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] I believe this post could be stated (with the flexibilites of truth due to the nature of a subjective world) to 'rip' on the Beatles to some extent. Note especially the use of emoticons, that--although entirely subjective--may leave with one the impression of being perhaps mildly derogatory of the British rock group known as the Beatles. However, one absolutely must bear in mind the subjectivity of nautre (and especially failure) in order to fully understand the opinions presented in this and other posts.
LJS9502_basic

Dude...cut the crap. You implied I said something I didn't. You were wrong. Give it up...it's boring...and doesn't change the facts.

Sir, I do believe sarcasm need be recognized when it is to be seen. In regards to my essay-like post, I have some reading for you (for, though I do not read--especially not your posts where you did not state that the Beatles "suck), I do know of some good reading myself. This is by a philosopher...it is about the nature of fluffy communication and its purpose.

quiglythegreat

If you keep this up I shall mind control you to hate Radiohead...

He was being sarcastic...EboyLOL

Not falling for it....particularly when he doesn't give it up.

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]Sir, I do believe sarcasm need be recognized when it is to be seen. In regards to my essay-like post, I have some reading for you (for, though I do not read--especially not your posts where you did not state that the Beatles "suck), I do know of some good reading myself. This is by a philosopher...it is about the nature of fluffy communication and its purpose.

LJS9502_basic

If you keep this up I shall mind control you to hate Radiohead...

You couldn't possibly do that. I honestly don't listen to them much anymore. It's kind of a shame. I still love listening to them, I just don't anymore. And seriously, that essay is hilarious.
quiglythegreat

Yeah well....Radiohead is Britpop! Take that.

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]You couldn't possibly do that. I honestly don't listen to them much anymore. It's kind of a shame. I still love listening to them, I just don't anymore. And seriously, that essay is hilarious.
LJS9502_basic

Yeah well....Radiohead is Britpop! Take that.

You can barely hear them in concert ever, either. People like me are screaming too loudly about how attractive John--er, Thom Yorke is. And about how LJS basic spoke slightly bad of the Beatles and then got into an epic argument (for lack of a worse word) involving a nuclear explosion. Or they're bickering about which form of Socialism is best and how to best institute it. Or something.
quiglythegreat

*sigh* What am I to do with you?

Queen

*runs from tomatoes*

I think you've never heard of Rolling Stones buddy.iliastse

You've deduced this how?

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]You can barely hear them in concert ever, either. People like me are screaming too loudly about how attractive John--er, Thom Yorke is. And about how LJS basic spoke slightly bad of the Beatles and then got into an epic argument (for lack of a worse word) involving a nuclear explosion. Or they're bickering about which form of Socialism is best and how to best institute it. Or something.
LJS9502_basic

*sigh* What am I to do with you?

Give up?

I'm a dog!!!

Queen

*runs from tomatoes*

Cyrax-Sektor

Tomatoes don't hurt...rocks are what you have to use.

Do not leave me in a locked car on a sunny day. I don't have sweat glands. It's terrible

Give up?

I'm a dog!!!

quiglythegreat

Chihuahua?

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"] Do not leave me in a locked car on a sunny day. I don't have sweat glands. It's terrible

Give up?

I'm a dog!!!

LJS9502_basic

Chihuahua?

I think you've never heard of Rolling Stones buddy.iliastse

God, no. A dog that points out posts that could loosely be construed as being mildly critical of the Beatles. The answer was Cairn terrier.
quiglythegreat

In that case you're not a very good pointer. You may need put down....for you know....I like The Beatles.:|

Now answer this...why do you consider "pop" to be derogatory?

Edit: By the way...chichuahua was a sarcatic answer. The irony.:lol:

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]?LJS9502_basic

In that case you're not a very good pointer. You may need put down....for you know....I like The Beatles.:|

Now answer this...why do you consider "pop" to be derogatory?

I find things mean very little by themselves. Nietzsche agrees with me, much to my displeasure. But regardless, it was the context of the disputed comment in which most of the innuedo lay.
quiglythegreat

Unfortunately...there WAS no innuendo. You read too much into things.

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"]I find things mean very little by themselves. Nietzsche agrees with me, much to my displeasure. But regardless, it was the context of the disputed comment in which most of the innuedo lay.
LJS9502_basic

Unfortunately...there WAS no innuendo. You read too much into things.